So what, does that mean that, for instance, on a ship with a 4 gun turret, shell grouping will keep two shells close, and the other two close, but both pairs of shells can still spread apart a lot? As opposed to dispersion, where the overall spread of shots is lessened?
Ok so imagine an Oval around an Enemy ship you are targeting, When you see the word dispersion in a buff it means the entire oval that is around that ship tightens up a bit meaning you are more likely to hit the target you are firing at. Grouping BUff Means that the overall size of that Oval stays the same but the Shells are more likely to stay closer together. Meaning you aren't necessarily more likely to hit but if you do hit you are more likely to score multiple hits. Salvo Firing (all guns at once) Means that the rng is the same across all guns that were fired Ripple Firing (Each Turret Separately) means that each of those shots can have a different RNG roll sometimes this can be good and sometimes it can be not so good.
The Friedrich der Große in the game is a H-39 class, an improvement of the Bismarck-class battleships both in terms of horizontal armor, propulsion systems, main armament, and steering systems. The legendary tier ship, Großer Kurfürst is actually H-44, the final variant of the H-class battleships and had if Germany acquired enough resources, it would be THE largest battleship in history at just at 345 m (1,131 ft 11 in) on a displacement of 131,000 t (129,000 long tons), displacing Yamato. However, the names Großdeutschland and Friedrich der Große we’re just speculation as Adolf Hitler chose names that are not connected to the Third Reich or to Germany itself as is stated that if those names were put on those ships and if one or both of them sank during battle, it could mean a negative psychological and propaganda effect on the German people. Hitler decided to use names such as Ulrich von Hutten (a German knight, scholar, poet and satirist, who later became a follower of Martin Luther and a Protestant reformer.) and Götz von Berlichingen (a German (Franconian) Imperial Knight (Reichsritter), mercenary, and poet). The only real evidence of a ship named Friedrich der Große can be found in one of five Kaiser-class battleships of World War I. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser-class_battleship en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-class_battleship_proposals
Small correction: FDG does belong to the H39 class, but GK belongs to the H41 class. Then Preussen belongs to the H42 class (turrets 4x2 457mm) and Hannover to the H43 class (4x2 493mm). In the game the H44 class is the only one missing, which has 4x2 508mm turrets and would be a direct rival to the IJN Satsuma.
@@rafaelhuarte9645 Preussen dosent belong on the H-42 series, she place herself somewhere between the H-41 and H-42 in the middle, considering that she dosent even have the 480 or 483mm gun as the Hannover who is also an H-42 battleship. Same goes for GK aswell who is also place somewhere between the H-41 and the H-42, though i would place GK at the H-41 series eventhough there are some difference's that WG make onto her model, she is still place herself as an H-41 battleship because of her bridge and tower design.
Spartan: We're going to introduce ourselves to this Izumo. FDG: Guten Tag. (slaps Izumo) Frederick der Grosse is named for the German King Frederick the Great. If you can't say the German, the English translation works just as well imo. 22:42 You're about to meet 3 of the Tier 8 BBs practically back-to-back. Oddly no Russian though...
My first tier 8, loving it so far. Finally got hyde this week so pairing him with it ( hipper cunningham inspir) Not fully upgraded yet of course. Appreciate the videos!
FDG has the longest main gun range in the game, with 17.9 km when fully upgraded, the second place goes to both Yamato and Iowa with 17.7 km (Iowa when fully upgraded), also I think this will be my first t8 ship
Haven’t tried the battleships yet…but I really enjoy the Russian crusier Dem. Donski. It’s a tank Chapayev with bigger guns, but a tad slower reload. I’ve had some really great games in it. I love dealing DD’s pain with the 11.7 radar. I’ve blown thru the tier upgrades and have 16k over use in it. I played against you yesterday in the Stalingrad while you were using this German BB. Out of the new BB’s I really want to try this one and when I get the campaign done I can’t wait for the Republique. I’ve seen some great teammates use her.
I haven't check the base stats. But if a ship claims "higher then average AP damage" I'd expect it to still be at the high end regardless of commander builds.
Hey Spartan, great video 👍 I'm torn between the 420mm and 406mm guns. Definitely feel like I'm leaning on the 406mm more. Hope you can do some sort of comparison video, I've still never settled the debate on my GK either.
I just love this ship and the german line. They are born to brawl. I have a hybrid build on my fdg for a test, perhaps a full secundery build will be good and fun. But the long range is also nice to have, I tryed a brawl build with ciliax but needed the range to enemy far out. A good info video spartan, I will try your build to test it. Also with alidad skill it must be better
The only reason I like emergency specialist is cause of situations like you had at the end there it would’ve saved you. It sucks that it cuts down 70% duration but going from 8 secs to 3secs isn’t that big of a deal if it means it recharges 25 seconds faster and can be used again
Only have Maine so far but it's Stock, my favourite since update is Jean Bart as i can make money and Marskmanship Perk has changed the Ship for me. Kitted up the Black so either Gnisenau or Z-46 next
for my secondary build I run Otto cliz with fanz von hipper and the German CV commander forgot his name and you get pretty decent secondaries use it on my Bismarck
Al scharnhorst is a pretty good Commander i used her on all my german bbs with cunningham and franz von hipper but after getting henry j hyde my german bbs are doing much better then before
IT WAS A MATTER OF TIME!!! Thank you Spartan, you're a champ!!! ((A little help with the name of the ship if you need. The "Friedrich" part of the name, you pronounce the 'I' more than the 'E'. In the end, it sounds like "FRIED (As in fried rice) -REICH (as in German time period).
@@mikemyon3570 It very well could be, I have heard the mass majority call it the way I've pronounced. The way I mentioned could be a mistake, but either way we all know what boat were talking about in the end, lol.
FDG really isn’t a sniping or brawling specific BB, considering her citadel from the sides is very weakly protected. I have clips of me sniping an FDG and getting a citadel on them, and me brawling with one and chipping of 50-60k of their health with 3 citadels while they do nothing in my Maine lol Basically, Maine is the best BB added for T8 TT, definitely a hidden gem
Hi Spartan! Again. I commented on your stream. What is the best way to get lots of global xp? I'm a free to play player. I want to get to the Bismarck quickly. I love Germany irl and almost have the Yorck. My highest tier ships are Asashio and Eastern Dragon. Tips?
@@SpartanElite43 Thank you! I have no tier 7s of 8s but I have been waiting almost a year and have four more sections on the Minotaur. After that I want the Worcester. Love you channel!
because you are still firing your guns... So With No Smoke your Detection range when firing is whatever your Maximum range is, in this case over 20km.... but if firing with smoke they have to be within the smoke firing penalty to spot you.
FDG was my first tier VIII and I'm loving it but what's making me not play in tier VIII are these brainless idiot potatoes that die in less than a minute and these teammates that stay in sides of the map
I played the ochakov last night and you were on the opposing team in this ship. I completely destroyed my side. Killed the chapayev, torped the lion, and melted the destroyer. Fun playing against you though
@@SpartanElite43 even if it did which I haven't heard of at all or wargaming have done a shit job at showing it in the patch notes, it sacrifices so many qualities compared to the bismarck that it's just plain mediocre at best, it for some reason has a 8 second dcp duration while bismarck has 15? the accuracy of its main guns is horribly inconsistent compared to other tier 8 battleships, its sonar only lasting a minute is not as long as it should be (it's supposed to be more defensively capable than the battlecruisers so why not) when the battlecruisers are taken into consideration with their sonar duration and the secondary base range being .5 less than bismarck means that you're losing nearly a full kilometer of potential secondary range, improved accuracy or not there is litterally no reason for it not to be the same as bismarcks, why the only difference couldn't have just been accuracy is beyond me
at no point have I ever seen of or heard such a buff from anywhere official, the sigma is still 1.8 and everything else if the definition of mediocrity or lackluster
@@Braindamagedpotato and sumner is nothing more than another addition in the US destroyer line wich already has like 10 variations with premiums included. Z46 isnt anything special either. And both get shredded by buffalo. So yes.. buffalo is the best t8 Baltimore is only the best cruiser.. I wouldnt call that mediocre. US destroyers are neither the best torpedoboats, wich are the japanese, or best gunboats, wich are the pan european. Guess that makes them mediocre.
So what, does that mean that, for instance, on a ship with a 4 gun turret, shell grouping will keep two shells close, and the other two close, but both pairs of shells can still spread apart a lot? As opposed to dispersion, where the overall spread of shots is lessened?
Ok so imagine an Oval around an Enemy ship you are targeting, When you see the word dispersion in a buff it means the entire oval that is around that ship tightens up a bit meaning you are more likely to hit the target you are firing at.
Grouping BUff Means that the overall size of that Oval stays the same but the Shells are more likely to stay closer together. Meaning you aren't necessarily more likely to hit but if you do hit you are more likely to score multiple hits.
Salvo Firing (all guns at once) Means that the rng is the same across all guns that were fired
Ripple Firing (Each Turret Separately) means that each of those shots can have a different RNG roll sometimes this can be good and sometimes it can be not so good.
@@SpartanElite43 Aye man, finaly an explanation I unterstand. Thank you very much and all the best for You👍🏻🍻
@@SpartanElite43 I run the new Italian commander with Andrew Cunningham as inspirations on AL scharnhorst its really accurate now on my tirpitz
@@kmsbismarck1937 , thanks for the tip. I will try that out.
@@SpartanElite43 an excellent description describing the difference between precision and accuracy, thanks man
The Friedrich der Große in the game is a H-39 class, an improvement of the Bismarck-class battleships both in terms of horizontal armor, propulsion systems, main armament, and steering systems. The legendary tier ship, Großer Kurfürst is actually H-44, the final variant of the H-class battleships and had if Germany acquired enough resources, it would be THE largest battleship in history at just at 345 m (1,131 ft 11 in) on a displacement of 131,000 t (129,000 long tons), displacing Yamato. However, the names Großdeutschland and Friedrich der Große we’re just speculation as Adolf Hitler chose names that are not connected to the Third Reich or to Germany itself as is stated that if those names were put on those ships and if one or both of them sank during battle, it could mean a negative psychological and propaganda effect on the German people. Hitler decided to use names such as Ulrich von Hutten (a German knight, scholar, poet and satirist, who later became a follower of Martin Luther and a Protestant reformer.) and Götz von Berlichingen (a German (Franconian) Imperial Knight (Reichsritter), mercenary, and poet). The only real evidence of a ship named Friedrich der Große can be found in one of five Kaiser-class battleships of World War I.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser-class_battleship
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-class_battleship_proposals
Small correction: FDG does belong to the H39 class, but GK belongs to the H41 class.
Then Preussen belongs to the H42 class (turrets 4x2 457mm) and Hannover to the H43 class (4x2 493mm).
In the game the H44 class is the only one missing, which has 4x2 508mm turrets and would be a direct rival to the IJN Satsuma.
no it is 313m
The H-Class battleships.
@@rafaelhuarte9645 Preussen dosent belong on the H-42 series, she place herself somewhere between the H-41 and H-42 in the middle, considering that she dosent even have the 480 or 483mm gun as the Hannover who is also an H-42 battleship. Same goes for GK aswell who is also place somewhere between the H-41 and the H-42, though i would place GK at the H-41 series eventhough there are some difference's that WG make onto her model, she is still place herself as an H-41 battleship because of her bridge and tower design.
@@theplaneteater9088 hannover is bigger than h44 but has smaller guns
Keep in mind the turtleback does't extend much down into the water. You can be citadelled in a heavy turn.
Spartan: We're going to introduce ourselves to this Izumo.
FDG: Guten Tag. (slaps Izumo)
Frederick der Grosse is named for the German King Frederick the Great. If you can't say the German, the English translation works just as well imo.
22:42 You're about to meet 3 of the Tier 8 BBs practically back-to-back. Oddly no Russian though...
My first tier 8, loving it so far. Finally got hyde this week so pairing him with it ( hipper cunningham inspir) Not fully upgraded yet of course. Appreciate the videos!
Noice
FDG has the longest main gun range in the game, with 17.9 km when fully upgraded, the second place goes to both Yamato and Iowa with 17.7 km (Iowa when fully upgraded), also I think this will be my first t8 ship
FDG and then Champagne , followed by Iowa and then Yamato
I just Black Friday couponed this ship.
Now I'm watching your always informative video.
Noice hope you enjoy!
@@SpartanElite43 Thanks Captain!
Haven’t tried the battleships yet…but I really enjoy the Russian crusier Dem. Donski. It’s a tank Chapayev with bigger guns, but a tad slower reload. I’ve had some really great games in it. I love dealing DD’s pain with the 11.7 radar. I’ve blown thru the tier upgrades and have 16k over use in it.
I played against you yesterday in the Stalingrad while you were using this German BB. Out of the new BB’s I really want to try this one and when I get the campaign done I can’t wait for the Republique. I’ve seen some great teammates use her.
Insert: German March from Wolfenstein New Colossus.
I still wish they'd either give the germans a commander with fully packed like azur lane us one or just one where you could get another sonar
I have Cilliax hibrid build with Hipper and Cunningham, and I enjoy the Bismarck with it, hope I enjoy the Fdg too, good video
Sovetsky Soyuz is by far my favorite, and definitely a ranking for the t8 bbs would be interesting as well as ppls thoughts on the rankings.
I'd even suggest a poll tbh just to see ppls opinions on the best t8 bb.
Noice
On the PC version I went with the smaller guns and the reload mod to give me something like a 24 second reload to put more rounds downrange.
Mainly a german bb guy. But switched it up and went for the Soyuz first. Love it so far. Glad i went for it first. Just gonna grind the groser
You could also use Otto Ciliax as inspiration for bigger AP damage
With Franz Von Hipper, i get 21km range. It's pretty good. But i noticed that the maps when you use tier 8 are more bigger then usual
I think all the Tier 8 BBs are good. Each one have their own strengths and weaknesses.
Made a port call in Port Canaveral for a bit. In 'bout a month I'll be able to start exploring this update. I'm super excited so far.
Be Safe and Hope you Enjoy!
@@SpartanElite43 Thank you, thank you.
I haven't check the base stats. But if a ship claims "higher then average AP damage" I'd expect it to still be at the high end regardless of commander builds.
Hey Spartan, great video 👍
I'm torn between the 420mm and 406mm guns. Definitely feel like I'm leaning on the 406mm more. Hope you can do some sort of comparison video, I've still never settled the debate on my GK either.
I just love this ship and the german line. They are born to brawl. I have a hybrid build on my fdg for a test, perhaps a full secundery build will be good and fun. But the long range is also nice to have, I tryed a brawl build with ciliax but needed the range to enemy far out. A good info video spartan, I will try your build to test it. Also with alidad skill it must be better
Alidad is a good perk for the German BBs to help the pen angles
The only reason I like emergency specialist is cause of situations like you had at the end there it would’ve saved you. It sucks that it cuts down 70% duration but going from 8 secs to 3secs isn’t that big of a deal if it means it recharges 25 seconds faster and can be used again
An excellent ship with a long cannon range of 21.2km..I like playing with it..👍😎
I citadelled this thing in a roon at like 14.5 kilometers
Only have Maine so far but it's Stock, my favourite since update is Jean Bart as i can make money and Marskmanship Perk has changed the Ship for me. Kitted up the Black so either Gnisenau or Z-46 next
Frederick, The Great. Is how you say it Spartan. Great Video. He was King Of Prussia in the 1700's
Favourite ship=Republique surely
Started playing in 2019
I would be interested in a t8 BB tier list Spartan. Looking forward to it.
for my secondary build I run Otto cliz with fanz von hipper and the German CV commander forgot his name and you get pretty decent secondaries use it on my Bismarck
Do you have the T8 Russian cruiser? If so is it worth the grind? Bc I only have the T4 as of right now.
Not yet... I have to get silver to get the cruisers
Nice, but do you recommend the FDG over the Maine?
Personally I still prefer the consistency of Maine and Republique over the FDG but it is definitely a much closer 3rd place.
I think Jingles does Fredrick The Great but not sure on pronounce of it
Is running al scharnhorst not a good alternative to cliax? Genuine question as debating to purchase hide.
Al scharnhorst is a pretty good
Commander i used her on all my german bbs with cunningham and franz von hipper but after getting henry j hyde my german bbs are doing much better then before
You can if you have her.
Feels like since the update in the German tree that i shot with a shotgun
IT WAS A MATTER OF TIME!!! Thank you Spartan, you're a champ!!!
((A little help with the name of the ship if you need. The "Friedrich" part of the name, you pronounce the 'I' more than the 'E'. In the end, it sounds like "FRIED (As in fried rice) -REICH (as in German time period).
I don't know if I got your comment right, but the pronunciation is more like FREEDRISH DER GROSSE.
Just pronounce the "SH" more soft.
@@mikemyon3570 It very well could be, I have heard the mass majority call it the way I've pronounced. The way I mentioned could be a mistake, but either way we all know what boat were talking about in the end, lol.
@@o0_VanYsH_0o Yeah, "FRIED"-"REICH" would really hurt my German ears haha ;)
Greetings and good games to you
Roon only has 1 torp launcher on each side
FDG really isn’t a sniping or brawling specific BB, considering her citadel from the sides is very weakly protected. I have clips of me sniping an FDG and getting a citadel on them, and me brawling with one and chipping of 50-60k of their health with 3 citadels while they do nothing in my Maine lol
Basically, Maine is the best BB added for T8 TT, definitely a hidden gem
Erm Spartan Roon is Nurnberg on steroids ....its a fun ship looking forward to your meet the roon video
Nice it'll be awhile as I have to build up the credits to buy them
@@SpartanElite43 imagine a hipper armor but with 3x3 203mm guns and set of 4 torps aside plus plenty of secondary arment lol ...seems nuts to play
YES! The tier VIII deutsch battleship
It was cool to watch your stream. I need to step up my game I'm still in the Tier 6 ships. 😔
I call the ship Freddy G
Bro this ship destroys mains for fun with the bigger cannons it’s so much fun
I would reconsider
Only Pommern is missing now :)
Put taters in between you and enemy, they will start shooting back at you and taters take one for the team
What do you think about using Tesla or Weeb Scharn as commanders on this ship?
Scharn maybe and honestly haven't looked at tesla so no idea
Hi Spartan! Again. I commented on your stream. What is the best way to get lots of global xp? I'm a free to play player. I want to get to the Bismarck quickly. I love Germany irl and almost have the Yorck. My highest tier ships are Asashio and Eastern Dragon. Tips?
honestly global xp is earned over time so run boosters on your favorite ships to maximize xp earnings.
@@SpartanElite43 Thank you! I have no tier 7s of 8s but I have been waiting almost a year and have four more sections on the Minotaur. After that I want the Worcester. Love you channel!
can i ask someting, i pick her on registration and i got her ship from the box but i can't see the ship in my port,
Either a filter is on or you aren't high enough level yet maybe?
I’d rank them once all nations and lines get tier 8
Is it worth it getting the FDG while having the G.Kurfust
It's up to you
Hello! Lovely video, what’s tomorrow?
Tomorrow will be our Sov. Soyuz video
Nice one, you’re keeping form✊🇫🇮🇵🇱
Izumo that's the only tier 8 ship that I have. Sad :(
Thanks for this vid bro good job
No Problem Glad You Enjoyed!
How can your firing in smoke range be more than sea detection range????
because you are still firing your guns...
So With No Smoke your Detection range when firing is whatever your Maximum range is, in this case over 20km.... but if firing with smoke they have to be within the smoke firing penalty to spot you.
@@SpartanElite43 but I thought firing in smoke decreased one’s detection range, not extends it😁
FDG was my first tier VIII and I'm loving it but what's making me not play in tier VIII are these brainless idiot potatoes that die in less than a minute and these teammates that stay in sides of the map
What the next tier 8 video you gonna make about next
Sov. Soyuz tomorrow.
Looks like Der Grope
My favorite German BB…. the FDR 😂
😄
Yes absolutely. Rank the battleships in its own video that would be really cool and I'm already super excited to see your picks.
You feeling ok lol you enjoyed a German battleship 🤣 now I love my Bismarck etc so going to pull the trigger on buying this bad boy
Do you have buffalo? Pretty great. Although it feels weaker than Baltimore in the armor department.
not yet gotta get enough silver.
What is the teir 8 price?
the ships cost 25 million without upgrades
I played the ochakov last night and you were on the opposing team in this ship. I completely destroyed my side. Killed the chapayev, torped the lion, and melted the destroyer. Fun playing against you though
Nice GG
@@SpartanElite43 gg
Sill waiting for VIII BSs ranking video
Good idea
I’m getting to enjoy your bb videos spartan, helping my game play immensely 👍
Awesome
I just ran it first game got five kills
I AM the Aircraft carrier saipan
is this ship worth it
Personally I don't think so
I call it the gross curry
FdG is just a God
Hiya Spartan
Hey!
Nice
As someone who has about 300 battles in it so far I must say its underwhelming and seriously needs a buff
It actually got a buff since this video was released
@@SpartanElite43 even if it did which I haven't heard of at all or wargaming have done a shit job at showing it in the patch notes, it sacrifices so many qualities compared to the bismarck that it's just plain mediocre at best, it for some reason has a 8 second dcp duration while bismarck has 15? the accuracy of its main guns is horribly inconsistent compared to other tier 8 battleships, its sonar only lasting a minute is not as long as it should be (it's supposed to be more defensively capable than the battlecruisers so why not) when the battlecruisers are taken into consideration with their sonar duration and the secondary base range being .5 less than bismarck means that you're losing nearly a full kilometer of potential secondary range, improved accuracy or not there is litterally no reason for it not to be the same as bismarcks, why the only difference couldn't have just been accuracy is beyond me
and I've checked it hasn't been touched since release
@@thej3389 I specifically remember fdg getting a buff mid point last year
at no point have I ever seen of or heard such a buff from anywhere official, the sigma is still 1.8 and everything else if the definition of mediocrity or lackluster
musashiiiiiii
day 4 of asking spartan to do a community vote of hot takes in wows legends and do a video on it. plz comment yes or no
Hi
Hello!
De grobe
The worst battleship in Legned. History
more like mommy der grosse (yes i play Azur Lane)
🇺🇸🇩🇪👌
Yasss I am early 👀👀 ✨✌️✌️
Nice!
Best tier 8
Sumner and Z46 Bear that title
@@Braindamagedpotato buffalo
@@martinmanley5303 AL Baltimore with an extra gun , mediocre at best,
@@Braindamagedpotato and sumner is nothing more than another addition in the US destroyer line wich already has like 10 variations with premiums included.
Z46 isnt anything special either.
And both get shredded by buffalo.
So yes.. buffalo is the best t8
Baltimore is only the best cruiser..
I wouldnt call that mediocre.
US destroyers are neither the best torpedoboats, wich are the japanese, or best gunboats, wich are the pan european.
Guess that makes them mediocre.
@@martinmanley5303 You do realize that a good DD player will beat the crap out of any Excellent cruiser player right?
This ship is such an absolute piece of shit. I avg around 65K damage a game compared to my normal 120K - 140K