Great video with clear instructions ... unlike the shouting, screaming and revving from most boats coming in :-) 2 questions ... 1 - Which end of the stern lines to give? Most instructors/schools say to give the loop to the dock aid and keep control of the bitter end yourself. Do you give the bitter end because you are alone at the stern and having the dock aid take in the slack is easier? It does look like your cleat has a figure 8 over it in any case for a quick release. 2 - Slip lines left in place? At the end of the video the stern lines are still left rigged at slip lines. Is that how you would leave them for an overnight (not concerned with chafe on pretty stainless steel bollards) or did you just not include switching over to having a loop (bight) over the bollard at the end of the video? Thanks again for a great video.
1. :-) Two ends of a rope, so... there a 50-50 chance you'll be right. Just pass the one with no loop in it to the helping hand ashore. 2. Slip lines are fine for a restful night in the Med, mate. So easy to leave the following morning. If windy or you really love your lines and want to be kind to them, just a simple turn and you're ready for sundowners!
Hi Benjamin, sorry for missing this comment. Thanks for the feedback :) To answer you questions: 1 - Which end of the stern lines to give? We would give the bitter end, no loop. Depending on the pier, marina, dock you visit, there could be bollards, or only rings. In the case of rings you need to send the bitter end through to either have the dock aid tie it off, or preferably get it back so that you can control the line. These days I tend to have a bowline or spliced end over my cleat on the yacht, mainly because it saves space on the cleat. If we perform a cleat hitch with one end and then bring the tail back to do another on top I find it gets over loaded. 2 - Slip lines left in place? We leave them as is. I tend to reverse pretty hard on my bow lines when I tension the stern lines so there is little movement for one, and secondly you will likely share that bollard with another yachts lines, so it needs to remain uncluttered. Lastly, as Alexandru answered as well, it makes it a lot easier to leave the dock, and for any reason in the night you would like to ease or adjust the lines, you can do so from on board. I hope that is helpful!
@@45DegreesSailing Thank you for the detailed response, I appreciate it. Another idea as an alternative is to "dip the lines / eye" *if you are sharing bollards with your neighbours so that either yacht can slip their lines first. *thread your spliced eye through the eye already present from your neighbour from underneath and then over the bollard.
Hi Nick. We are on the couple on Meraki the 41’ Nordhavn that you met a few days ago at Marina Kastela. You wondered why we, with a trawler, would follow and learn from you. It is videos like this which helped us approach Med mooring with a little more knowledge. It is not commonly done in Alaska where we are from. Your videos on mooring, whether in a marina or a mooring ball or shore tied are applicable to ALL boaters. Also we both grew up sailing and are sailors at heart, probably why we have a slow boat. Keep up the good work!
@@45DegreesSailing thanks for the tip, booked into Rokis at 8.30 - will stop off at the bar you suggested on the way to the pickup spot! We were at Milna, Hvar last night and Bobovisca the night before, Stari Grad is on our list. So far it’s exceeding our expectations. Chartered Serenity with Sail Croatia, will have a look at your yachts if we come back. Yes, it’s hot - beats cold Melbourne though!
Hi Nick, we are currently in the Trogir region and south and had today the third day with a relaxed mooring Stern with Lazy Lines. The figure eights lay, the tips on preparation and the execution work out perfectly. Thanks for the tips and greetings from Palmizana
That is great! Glad it was helpful Dirk. We are actually right now docked in Vis in the exact same spot that we shot that video! Enjoy the Pakleni Islands. Greetings from Vis.
Sorry for hijacking the topic now but maybe you can give me an idea where to stay for one last night in a distance from max 10 to 15 nm from Trogir in a nice „carribian“ lookings bay. No Anchorage - buoy preferd. Tried Vela Rina but comments are Not so well in the Community.... Thanks in advance. Dirk
@@xxxxxxx4574 no worries. There are no so many bouy fields like that. Good anchorages. You could try Konaba Mareta in Uvala Nečujam on Šolta. Call then to book a table and their mooring. Tell them I sent you ;) Or you could go somewhere like Bobovisce on Brač there are moorings with stern to lines. It’s not really a Caribbean bay though! All those special spots are anchorages 🙃
Really great video, I've watched it several times already and plan to watch it every time before sailing in Croatia, just as a reminder 😂 Can't thank you enough for making these for us noobs!
@@45DegreesSailing I’m doing a one week trip around the island of Elba with my friends, first time chartering on a bigger yacht (Sun Odyssey 419), I’m super excited! I’ll try to be as calm as you, you did a great job demonstrating that when you and the crew is well prepared, the whole maneuver isn’t really difficult and there’s no need to be hectic (what you probably see often with charter crews)!
@@felixmarschner5590 that’s great! I’m sure it will be amazing. The biggest piece of advice I can give on that is prepare. And give everyone a job! Whether it is a roaming fender, hold the boat hook or whatever. Prepare and take your time 🙂
Great tips! I will try the figure 8 rope tidyness myself, great idea! Following the orders of the person on the deck: no, use your brain. It is you who is responsible for the 400k boat, and the marina crew are responsible for docking to be filled properly. In optimal scenario I would want to come close by, agree on the spot (yes, you can have a wish) and what ropes are going to be done. You should tell them which side mooring line you want and which stern line you need to be done first. In reality this is seems unnecessary and without the wind that is probably fine, but if docking is about to be tricky, I would want to take the time, talk to the dock aid, be sure you both know what you will do -- or just send one of your crew to the dock. It is when people have no clue what they are doing and they just listen to the person on dock and do approx what they say that things go wrong. And frankly, many times people on dock just don't have a clue either. Another great tip from this video is the clear communication to the person on the bow: clear, precise, loud.
Thought you would like it 😉 Thanks for the comments! Yeh it is a bit of a wish, and with the busy nature of the pier in the season trying to queue and get a spot you get ushered in pretty quickly. This is why skippers need to gain experience and control before chartering in high season.
Hey mate, nice vid with great advice, tnx! :) Just a quick question, which port out of the 2 you prefer, Vis or Kut? I have been to both and I personally prefer port of Vis just because it is much closer to everything, but I am very curious what you think :)
Hey there, thanks for that! For us we prefer Kut, it is smaller, quieter and the facilities are better. Yes it is closer to the main town of Vis at the Vis port. Just all depends what you are going there to do/see!
It does look like that from the shore doesn’t it! Though it was actually good for this one, I always look at it again before I reverse against those lines. There is too much at stake! My best advise for that is to come past and observe the dock before you come in, look at the height of the water relative the other yachts and make your judgement from this and adjust accordingly. A bit easier when it’s a flat wall. When it’s a floating pier it can be harder to get it right. Generally the safer bet it lower is better.
Effectively the same way. you would just be planning to throw your lines from the quarters (above the cleats around your dinghy) and receive them back in a similar place. Thing to consider really is the make up or arrangement of the dinghy and davits, are you going to be able to exit the boat over the stern if it remains there? Or is it best to drop it before docking and tow it from the bow as you dock. Other possibility it so dock with the bow in first if you have a design that allows easy entry/exit over the bow.
A very good and instructive video. Adding a sketch to show the general solution (before you enter the slot and as a debriefer afterwards) would improve an already good video even just a little more. But please turn off that ridiculous "music", it does nothing but disturbs the instructions you give and my grasping of the situation. Music is allowed if it isn't intrusive and set on low volume. It isn't the "music" I'm interested in, but rather your comments and good instructions. The volume must be lower, quite a lot lower, than your voice. Please. Otherwise very good.
Thanks for the feedback and constructive comments. I'll keep it in mind for future videos. I could consider the sketches for the future. Which manoeuvre would you like to see next?
Great video. Really useful! Quick question, how easy is it to tell if you are going to use lazy lines or anchor for stern on mooring? It's it recorded in an almanac or easy to see during the flyby?
Thanks for the comment. Easier way to pick it is looking to the dock to see if you can see the tracer lines running into the water that they will use to pick up the lazy lines. And of course. If there are any other boats on the dock check their configuration.
Great video with clear instructions ... unlike the shouting, screaming and revving from most boats coming in :-)
2 questions ...
1 - Which end of the stern lines to give? Most instructors/schools say to give the loop to the dock aid and keep control of the bitter end yourself. Do you give the bitter end because you are alone at the stern and having the dock aid take in the slack is easier? It does look like your cleat has a figure 8 over it in any case for a quick release.
2 - Slip lines left in place? At the end of the video the stern lines are still left rigged at slip lines. Is that how you would leave them for an overnight (not concerned with chafe on pretty stainless steel bollards) or did you just not include switching over to having a loop (bight) over the bollard at the end of the video?
Thanks again for a great video.
1. :-) Two ends of a rope, so... there a 50-50 chance you'll be right. Just pass the one with no loop in it to the helping hand ashore.
2. Slip lines are fine for a restful night in the Med, mate. So easy to leave the following morning.
If windy or you really love your lines and want to be kind to them, just a simple turn and you're ready for sundowners!
Hi Benjamin, sorry for missing this comment. Thanks for the feedback :)
To answer you questions:
1 - Which end of the stern lines to give?
We would give the bitter end, no loop. Depending on the pier, marina, dock you visit, there could be bollards, or only rings. In the case of rings you need to send the bitter end through to either have the dock aid tie it off, or preferably get it back so that you can control the line. These days I tend to have a bowline or spliced end over my cleat on the yacht, mainly because it saves space on the cleat. If we perform a cleat hitch with one end and then bring the tail back to do another on top I find it gets over loaded.
2 - Slip lines left in place?
We leave them as is. I tend to reverse pretty hard on my bow lines when I tension the stern lines so there is little movement for one, and secondly you will likely share that bollard with another yachts lines, so it needs to remain uncluttered. Lastly, as Alexandru answered as well, it makes it a lot easier to leave the dock, and for any reason in the night you would like to ease or adjust the lines, you can do so from on board.
I hope that is helpful!
@@45DegreesSailing Thank you for the detailed response, I appreciate it.
Another idea as an alternative is to "dip the lines / eye" *if you are sharing bollards with your neighbours so that either yacht can slip their lines first.
*thread your spliced eye through the eye already present from your neighbour from underneath and then over the bollard.
@@benjamingass1688 ... very good seamanship! 😉 Only a few skipper know this trick! 👍
Hi Nick. We are on the couple on Meraki the 41’ Nordhavn that you met a few days ago at Marina Kastela. You wondered why we, with a trawler, would follow and learn from you. It is videos like this which helped us approach Med mooring with a little more knowledge. It is not commonly done in Alaska where we are from. Your videos on mooring, whether in a marina or a mooring ball or shore tied are applicable to ALL boaters. Also we both grew up sailing and are sailors at heart, probably why we have a slow boat. Keep up the good work!
It was great to meet you! Thanks for saying hi. And very happy the videos are helpful 😊
Nick, you’re a legend - just docked at Marina Vis, your video was very helpful. Thanks!
Haha. Excellent Ed! Well done. We just docked in Stari Grad. MAN ITS HOT! Probably hit Vis/Kut tomorrow.
Make sure you got enjoy a cocktail at Frutarija. It’s on the water between the two ports. Great spot.
@@45DegreesSailing thanks for the tip, booked into Rokis at 8.30 - will stop off at the bar you suggested on the way to the pickup spot! We were at Milna, Hvar last night and Bobovisca the night before, Stari Grad is on our list. So far it’s exceeding our expectations. Chartered Serenity with Sail Croatia, will have a look at your yachts if we come back. Yes, it’s hot - beats cold Melbourne though!
Excellent clear instruction and it was wonderful to put it to good use this week. Thank you 🙏🏼
Was a pleasure!
Hi Nick, we are currently in the Trogir region and south and had today the third day with a relaxed mooring Stern with Lazy Lines. The figure eights lay, the tips on preparation and the execution work out perfectly. Thanks for the tips and greetings from Palmizana
That is great! Glad it was helpful Dirk. We are actually right now docked in Vis in the exact same spot that we shot that video!
Enjoy the Pakleni Islands. Greetings from Vis.
Sorry for hijacking the topic now but maybe you can give me an idea where to stay for one last night in a distance from max 10 to 15 nm from Trogir in a nice „carribian“ lookings bay. No Anchorage - buoy preferd. Tried Vela Rina but comments are Not so well in the Community.... Thanks in advance. Dirk
@@xxxxxxx4574 no worries. There are no so many bouy fields like that. Good anchorages.
You could try Konaba Mareta in Uvala Nečujam on Šolta. Call then to book a table and their mooring. Tell them I sent you ;)
Or you could go somewhere like Bobovisce on Brač there are moorings with stern to lines. It’s not really a Caribbean bay though! All those special spots are anchorages 🙃
Really great video, I've watched it several times already and plan to watch it every time before sailing in Croatia, just as a reminder 😂 Can't thank you enough for making these for us noobs!
Preparation is the key!
Thank you for explaining it so clearly! New follower here. Love your channel!
Thanks Susan. You are most welcome
One of the best videos on this that I’ve seen so far! Will definitely be helpful on my upcoming trip in the meds!
Thanks Felix. That’s exactly what we are hoping to help with! Where will you be sailing? Have you booked your yacht yet?
@@45DegreesSailing I’m doing a one week trip around the island of Elba with my friends, first time chartering on a bigger yacht (Sun Odyssey 419), I’m super excited! I’ll try to be as calm as you, you did a great job demonstrating that when you and the crew is well prepared, the whole maneuver isn’t really difficult and there’s no need to be hectic (what you probably see often with charter crews)!
@@felixmarschner5590 that’s great! I’m sure it will be amazing. The biggest piece of advice I can give on that is prepare. And give everyone a job! Whether it is a roaming fender, hold the boat hook or whatever. Prepare and take your time 🙂
Crazy! Moored exactly in that spot in Vis 2018 with a Dufour 455 . Memories!
Haha, best spot on the dock ;)
@@45DegreesSailing Dont tell anyone! :-)
@@sailadventurercaptainpeter909 Deal
Great tips! I will try the figure 8 rope tidyness myself, great idea!
Following the orders of the person on the deck: no, use your brain. It is you who is responsible for the 400k boat, and the marina crew are responsible for docking to be filled properly. In optimal scenario I would want to come close by, agree on the spot (yes, you can have a wish) and what ropes are going to be done. You should tell them which side mooring line you want and which stern line you need to be done first. In reality this is seems unnecessary and without the wind that is probably fine, but if docking is about to be tricky, I would want to take the time, talk to the dock aid, be sure you both know what you will do -- or just send one of your crew to the dock.
It is when people have no clue what they are doing and they just listen to the person on dock and do approx what they say that things go wrong. And frankly, many times people on dock just don't have a clue either.
Another great tip from this video is the clear communication to the person on the bow: clear, precise, loud.
Thought you would like it 😉
Thanks for the comments! Yeh it is a bit of a wish, and with the busy nature of the pier in the season trying to queue and get a spot you get ushered in pretty quickly. This is why skippers need to gain experience and control before chartering in high season.
Video saved to watch again before next trip! 😂
Yes. Lets plan for you to be on that yacht too :p Hanse 588 here we come!
Very good job, each of you.
Thanks :)
Great video Nick! Informative, detailed and clear.
Thanks Mike. Looking fwd to brushing up your skills on our next sail!
Excellent, well done !!
Glad you liked it! I hope it was helpful
@@45DegreesSailing properly performing a maneuver means planning everything in advance ... Bravo!
@@VAdu56 thanks! It is certainly a very important part of it.
Hi, thank you so much for this great video! Do you have any video showing Departure with 2 people on boat docked stern?
Thanks Fabienne. I will have a look through the content, I believe we do, and if we don't, then I will film it next week!
awsome bro
Thanks Raymond
Love the aerial view, looks cool with all the lazy lines. I always thought it was weird they just appeared 🙈
How clear is that water?!
Haha yes fair enough! The whole system is often quite interesting for our guests onboard, trying to visualise whats goin on and how it works.
Hey mate, nice vid with great advice, tnx! :)
Just a quick question, which port out of the 2 you prefer, Vis or Kut?
I have been to both and I personally prefer port of Vis just because it is much closer to everything, but I am very curious what you think :)
Hey there, thanks for that! For us we prefer Kut, it is smaller, quieter and the facilities are better. Yes it is closer to the main town of Vis at the Vis port. Just all depends what you are going there to do/see!
Same for me. Beautiful under the Church in Kut and a nice 10min walk to Vis after a day the boat
Ball fender might need to be a bit lower. How would you judge that before you come in?
It does look like that from the shore doesn’t it! Though it was actually good for this one, I always look at it again before I reverse against those lines. There is too much at stake!
My best advise for that is to come past and observe the dock before you come in, look at the height of the water relative the other yachts and make your judgement from this and adjust accordingly. A bit easier when it’s a flat wall. When it’s a floating pier it can be harder to get it right. Generally the safer bet it lower is better.
nice knots and cheese
Thank you 'sir' 😅
@@45DegreesSailing weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeej
How would you do this if you had dingy davits and a dingy hanging from the back?
Effectively the same way. you would just be planning to throw your lines from the quarters (above the cleats around your dinghy) and receive them back in a similar place.
Thing to consider really is the make up or arrangement of the dinghy and davits, are you going to be able to exit the boat over the stern if it remains there? Or is it best to drop it before docking and tow it from the bow as you dock. Other possibility it so dock with the bow in first if you have a design that allows easy entry/exit over the bow.
A very good and instructive video. Adding a sketch to show the general solution (before you enter the slot and as a debriefer afterwards) would improve an already good video even just a little more.
But please turn off that ridiculous "music", it does nothing but disturbs the instructions you give and my grasping of the situation. Music is allowed if it isn't intrusive and set on low volume. It isn't the "music" I'm interested in, but rather your comments and good instructions. The volume must be lower, quite a lot lower, than your voice. Please. Otherwise very good.
Thanks for the feedback and constructive comments. I'll keep it in mind for future videos.
I could consider the sketches for the future. Which manoeuvre would you like to see next?
Great video. Really useful!
Quick question, how easy is it to tell if you are going to use lazy lines or anchor for stern on mooring? It's it recorded in an almanac or easy to see during the flyby?
Thanks for the comment. Easier way to pick it is looking to the dock to see if you can see the tracer lines running into the water that they will use to pick up the lazy lines. And of course. If there are any other boats on the dock check their configuration.
@@45DegreesSailing thanks!
@@ChrisSidwellSmith most welcome!
Tutto facile con educazione di proa😂