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Bro thank you for your review video, I've bought using your link (Subwing store) I bought h11 pro for myself because I like the matte starlight color and its light weight, and bought w58 for parents. Here's the review of my h11😍 Beautiful packaging like Apple, the seller packed well. The color of the case and the strap is matte starlight. Fits on a thin ~ 14 cm wrist! + Lightweight and comfortable to wear! Qifit application, dials 1:1, respect for this, without cringe arial fonts.) Battery: 13 percent gone in a week! I used it like as a watch, sometimes the bluetooth worked. With high brightness comes more consumption. There is a lock on the strap, so no stress, the watch will not fall out In general, high-quality gadget, totally recommend
H11 Pro feels so light weight, and the display resolution is actually worse than H10 Pro when I looked at the UI, icons corners, text on both of them closely!
@@iMAT aluminum is lighter than stainless steel. Maybe the battery is smaller too. Now the display, the lack of amoled is already a shame, but it makes no sense to have so low resolution on a "flagship replica".
@@aptrue Hello friend, I also share your opinion. I've waited a long time for the H11 Pro to launch, looking forward to an H10 update. The best point in my opinion were the colors I had been waiting for: green, blue, red.... No other "famous" model like the "H" line brought these colors. I was very happy when I had the opportunity to have a good smartwatch with this green color. But now I feel extremely disappointed as there was no advancement over its H10 predecessor, it was actually a step backwards. And since I trust the iMAT assessment, I feel sad.
Hi iMat, what to do if H11 Pro BT (Bluetooth Calling) is not working? Like H11 Pro BT (Bluetooth Calling) is not showing in Bluetooth settings but O_H11 Pro is showing.
Try restarting your smartphone and smartwatch. If its still not showing, reset your smartwatch. Also, make sure the bluetooth icon is turned on in the control centre
This is for sure your best comparison video... Congratulations on the excellent production! No other channel has so realistically presented the experience of choosing a smartwatch. Also thanks for paying attention to "not Ultra" models
@@iMAT that’s unfortunate in regards to my wrist size which is small. I’m going to try out the H10 Pro. Last question, are any of the other models waterproof in the sense of the ZD8?
Hi. This question is not any of these watches. This comment is all about H11 ultra upgraded. I can read the books from the watch? To your unboxing video i only saw link only. I can read and see the text from the ebooks? like i can read? see the contexts of the books?? Thank you!
@@iMAT ok thanks bro. The only thing is, I am from the Netherlands. I don’t think the H10 pro has got my language, “Dutch” or “Netherland”. The only Apple Watch clone with my language “Dutch” I could find it the iw8. How is the Iw8 compared to H10 pro? The looks are almost the same right? Could u tell me a bit about the iw8 if you’d recommend it or still h10 pro is far superior? Thanks in advance bro. Sorry to spam you with my questions 🤣🙈
My H10 pro still going thanks, bought it almost 6months ago. Thanks to your video. 😊 looking for the best Apple Watch ultra, which version would you recommend please? Too many replicas to choose from now?
A new model is out:: ua-cam.com/video/6Q598N21a58/v-deo.html But it still needs a few updates to become perfect! Right now, these two are the top replicas: ua-cam.com/video/BFfl0NY7Zrk/v-deo.html
I'm still happy with my W58 & HK8 Pro Ultra.. both of them got fluid display & so smooth especially HK8 Pro Ultra. Just some minor problems cause by that stupid WearfitPro app. Else they are both great watch to use. Thanks to u iMAT.. 👍
I just noticed it now.. when i changed my straps on my w58 the color on the digital watch face adapts the color of ny straps😮😮😮 a feature i realy enjoy
In India, you’ll have to contact a local shop or website. AliExpress is banned in India because it’s a Chinese company. You can try your luck on AliBaba also. But Indian Customs might trouble you in getting the parcel cleared!
GREAAAAT JOB IMAT!! Thanks for the review Next, you can make some deep review between other witch. For detailing and deepest review haha Thanks so much for! Many people waiting for this one.
THIS is the video I was looking for. Really great job! The only think you did not mention is if any of them would fit the apple watch cases. Let me know if you have any information about that. Thanks!
Actually they do, but the speaker holes position is a bit different on W58 I guess, still I will check that again, You can send me a message on Instagram as a reminder
Hi IMat, did you know that some of apple watch clone have a secret code to change their boot logo into Apple boot logo? Maybe you know these code for H10pro and Hello Watch, to change their Hello boot logo into Apple boot logo. Thank you 🙏🏼
@@iMAT That's right. But full cover cases and hard cases are not compatible. The width of the w58 is thicker, so it won't fit in. So I had to resell the cases I bought. 🥲🥲
Oh sad to hear about your experience! I have silicone cases only, I will make sure to mention that it’s compatible with silicone/hard case from next time😅
In India, you’ll have to contact a local shop or website. AliExpress is banned in India because it’s a Chinese company! I can’t recommend any website because I haven’t had an experience with any of them. But I have heard good reviews about Balaji Traders from my Indian Subscribers!
@@iMAT how can i check ram or storage its not showing should i open dispute with seller? Because I don’t like it all, its like cheap quality same like 8x ultra,,
It has 128MB storage and RAM. If it has not shipped yet, you can cancel the order and you will get your money refunded in the debit card in 10-20 days. And next time please mention the name of the smartwatch I used in the title. H11 Upgraded is better than all of them. But this one is H11 Pro.
@@iMAT I didn’t like the screen of h11 upgraded version its cheap,, should i go for w58?? Because the h11 upgraded is looking way cheap and not in good quality especially the screen,, or can you suggest me any watch with amoled display or better looking display than this watch
No clue how to get nfc to work!, this watch is very disappointing, cannot call from it, get my text from it, and it's connected to app! Idk what I'm doing wrong, not a fan of any smartwatch I've tried
I haven’t actually reviewed any, but I’m not sure if any good model is available in 40mm. I am sure your girlfriend has a thin wrist like me haha, and I use the H10 Pro and LA24 smartwatch, and they both look good! H10 Pro: ua-cam.com/video/cFoGNqsjEeU/v-deo.html LA24: ua-cam.com/video/JCjoSLeUjfY/v-deo.html
In India, you’ll have to contact a local shop or website. AliExpress is banned in India because it’s a Chinese company! I can’t recommend any website because I haven’t had an experience with any of them. But I have heard good reviews about Balaji Traders from my Indian Subscribers!
As I said earlier, it’s my preference. And you can see the final part of the video where I’ve listed the reasons why i prefer the H10 Pro. W58 is also great!
This is amazing work bro. Thanks a lot. Will go for the h10 pro. 😊 which color looks great in real live, the stainless steel black or silver color? It doesn’t come in gold color right? And whenever you have time could you check if it has language option “Dutch” or “Netherlands” pls? 🙏🏽
I prefer the black, because every strap just works with it!! And no it isn’t available in Gold colour. And all supported languages are shown in the video!
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• H11 PRO: bit.ly/H11ProSeries8
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• W58: ua-cam.com/video/n4-sKmEkDdQ/v-deo.html
• H10 PRO: ua-cam.com/video/cFoGNqsjEeU/v-deo.html
• H11 PRO: ua-cam.com/video/zNpY9kESWIc/v-deo.html
• Visit the IWO PRO Global Store for more awesome products: bit.ly/IWO_Pro_Global_Store
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• Visit the Subwing Official Store for more awesome products: bit.ly/SubwigOfficialStore
Bro can you provide these watches in india?
I cant buy these watches from your links as i live in india
All work by Qifit app?
Bro thank you for your review video, I've bought using your link (Subwing store)
I bought h11 pro for myself because I like the matte starlight color and its light weight, and bought w58 for parents. Here's the review of my h11😍
Beautiful packaging like Apple, the seller packed well. The color of the case and the strap is matte starlight. Fits on a thin ~ 14 cm wrist! + Lightweight and comfortable to wear! Qifit application, dials 1:1, respect for this, without cringe arial fonts.) Battery: 13 percent gone in a week! I used it like as a watch, sometimes the bluetooth worked. With high brightness comes more consumption.
There is a lock on the strap, so no stress, the watch will not fall out
In general, high-quality gadget, totally recommend
Thanks for sharing buddy!
Hi, H11 Pro and H10 Pro which has better brightness?
Quite similar, but H11 looks brighter as shown in the video!
@@iMAT thank you, love ur videos
Great to hear that! 🤗
What is the best one in stainless steel? DT7 or which one? Looking for a silver stainless steel one. Thanks
ua-cam.com/video/cFoGNqsjEeU/v-deo.html
what is best software.....hryfine etc
Hey imat how can i enable the screen on on my w58?
Hi, if you’re talking about the screen off dial, go to settings and in screen time, enable “Always On Display or Always Bright” option.
Do any of these watches have onboard music storage and Bluetooth headphone pairing capabilities?
Nope, only Hello Watch has it:
Hello Watch [H11 Ultra Upgraded]
ua-cam.com/video/0cJXq6i4Kvw/v-deo.html
Hi @iMAT do you know how to change the call ringtone on H11 pro or the ringtone of the H11pro watch ?
Not possible afaik
Wow great comparison! Disappointed they downgraded the H11 pro on hardware! Hardware is good in W58 but software is much worse.
H11 Pro feels so light weight, and the display resolution is actually worse than H10 Pro when I looked at the UI, icons corners, text on both of them closely!
@@iMAT aluminum is lighter than stainless steel. Maybe the battery is smaller too. Now the display, the lack of amoled is already a shame, but it makes no sense to have so low resolution on a "flagship replica".
@@aptrue Hello friend, I also share your opinion. I've waited a long time for the H11 Pro to launch, looking forward to an H10 update. The best point in my opinion were the colors I had been waiting for: green, blue, red.... No other "famous" model like the "H" line brought these colors. I was very happy when I had the opportunity to have a good smartwatch with this green color. But now I feel extremely disappointed as there was no advancement over its H10 predecessor, it was actually a step backwards. And since I trust the iMAT assessment, I feel sad.
@@iMATwhich one has always on display ??
Which is the best to buy? H10 pro or Hk8 pro max 2nd gen?
What series 8 have a banner notification, is very important I think.
MT8-S has it! ua-cam.com/video/8NnyZmr9NhY/v-deo.html
Can you rate highest screen to body
Ratio of h10 pro vs h11 pro?
Ya this question need to be answer mate! Hope imat can do as well haha thanks!!
Hi, as shown in the video all 3 of them look exactly same!
Hi iMat, what to do if H11 Pro BT (Bluetooth Calling) is not working? Like H11 Pro BT (Bluetooth Calling) is not showing in Bluetooth settings but O_H11 Pro is showing.
Try restarting your smartphone and smartwatch. If its still not showing, reset your smartwatch.
Also, make sure the bluetooth icon is turned on in the control centre
@@iMAT i’ve tried them, but still can’t :(
This is for sure your best comparison video...
Congratulations on the excellent production!
No other channel has so realistically presented the experience of choosing a smartwatch.
Also thanks for paying attention to "not Ultra" models
Wow, thanks!
I need your expertise. I’m on the fence with H10 Pro vs Hello Watch 2. Which one would you recommend?
If you have a healthy wrist and a big 49mm dial is good for you, then go for the Hello Watch 2
@@iMAT that’s unfortunate in regards to my wrist size which is small. I’m going to try out the H10 Pro. Last question, are any of the other models waterproof in the sense of the ZD8?
Which of H10 and H11, do you recommend?
h10
As I said in the video, H10 Pro.
@@iMAT thank you, love our videos
Thanks buddy, this is what keeps me going! 🫵🏻
Hi. This question is not any of these watches. This comment is all about H11 ultra upgraded. I can read the books from the watch? To your unboxing video i only saw link only. I can read and see the text from the ebooks? like i can read? see the contexts of the books?? Thank you!
I will make a short video to make it easy to understand. BTW that was not a link. The text file I imported contained that link in the text :D
@@iMAT thank you so much!!! I just wait for it!
Good video.
Whats the link on how to activate bluetooth calling for w58 and iphone12
Full review is linked in description!
does any of the watches have apps such as games???
Yes they do, you can find the full reviews linked in the description box below
Thank you for your useful answer
How do you download watch faces on w58?
MActivePro application.
series 8 repliaca with compass watch faces and red dot notification option ????
H11 Pro and HK9 Pro (AMOLED)
which on is best w58, h10pro or dt8 max??
H10 Pro in my opinion!
Do we have to give custom to ship it in canada?
Depends on your courier! I have never paid custom in Pakistan.
@@iMAT ❤
Please i want your advice 🙂 what is the best smartwatch you prefer 😃i am looking for dual core and large screen 😃👍🏻
In series 8?
on aliexpress i see there is a new model of series 8 is WS8, can you review it?
Can you link it here?
UA-cam does not allow posting links here, you can search WS8 on that
@@iMAT it's in the store "freadem dropshipping Store"
You can link it here, UA-cam will move your comment to “Held for review”. I will allow it.
@@iMAT ua-cam.com/video/VNm4A1duVdo/v-deo.html
Would you review E500 and EP01 smart watches, test accuracy of their health sensors
Can you link them here?
Bro one question about h10 pro. Do original Apple Watch serie 8 straps fit onto H10 pro?! Thanks man. I enjoy your vids.
Thanks bud! And yes as far as I have checked, they do.
@@iMAT ok thanks bro. The only thing is, I am from the Netherlands. I don’t think the H10 pro has got my language, “Dutch” or “Netherland”. The only Apple Watch clone with my language “Dutch” I could find it the iw8. How is the Iw8 compared to H10 pro? The looks are almost the same right? Could u tell me a bit about the iw8 if you’d recommend it or still h10 pro is far superior? Thanks in advance bro. Sorry to spam you with my questions 🤣🙈
@@amartewarie3984 hi, if i understand correctly iw8, that is "Top version" (sold 2000+ on ali) doesn't have strap locks
W59 pro or H10 pro or Hk9 ??
Which one is best over all as best replica ?
Overall H10 Pro is the best replica in my opinion. But if you want the best display, Ui, animations then HK9 takes the win
Bro are these watch support single chip Bluetooth connection or dual chip
Dual chip. they use separate connections for watch app and for bluetooth calling
@@iMAT is there any watch with single chip connection
My H10 pro still going thanks, bought it almost 6months ago. Thanks to your video. 😊 looking for the best Apple Watch ultra, which version would you recommend please? Too many replicas to choose from now?
A new model is out:: ua-cam.com/video/6Q598N21a58/v-deo.html But it still needs a few updates to become perfect!
Right now, these two are the top replicas: ua-cam.com/video/BFfl0NY7Zrk/v-deo.html
Thank you. Placed an order for hello watch 2 from subwing literally an hour before you’ve replied. Now I’m cancelling to hello watch 3 😂.
I'm still happy with my W58 & HK8 Pro Ultra.. both of them got fluid display & so smooth especially HK8 Pro Ultra. Just some minor problems cause by that stupid WearfitPro app. Else they are both great watch to use. Thanks to u iMAT.. 👍
Thanks for sharing!!
I just noticed it now.. when i changed my straps on my w58 the color on the digital watch face adapts the color of ny straps😮😮😮 a feature i realy enjoy
Wait what 🤔
@@iMAT bro is he mad LOL
H10 pro or hk9? Comparison please
Yes I am working on it
Product can’t be shipped to India.. how to order now
In India, you’ll have to contact a local shop or website. AliExpress is banned in India because it’s a Chinese company. You can try your luck on AliBaba also. But Indian Customs might trouble you in getting the parcel cleared!
Wow.... Great comparison... Keep it up bro... 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for watching buddy!
which is the best series 8 clone at this time ???
H10 Pro and W58/W59 Overall.
HK9 Pro Best display and Ui
dude can you suggest me best series 8 replica now?
My favorite is H10 Pro! It all comes down to your preferences. I prefer stainless steel sides, feature and the watch-app of H10 Pro!
@@iMAT is h11 pro app same as h10 pro?
GREAAAAT JOB IMAT!!
Thanks for the review
Next, you can make some deep review between other witch. For detailing and deepest review haha
Thanks so much for! Many people waiting for this one.
Haha glad it helped!
THIS is the video I was looking for. Really great job! The only think you did not mention is if any of them would fit the apple watch cases. Let me know if you have any information about that. Thanks!
Actually they do, but the speaker holes position is a bit different on W58 I guess, still I will check that again, You can send me a message on Instagram as a reminder
detailed review.keep it up.
watching from nigeria
Awesome! Thank you!
Very glad with my H10 Pro purchase after watching this, thanks iMat!
Glad I could help!
me too!! 😉
@@osvy1980 hi sir , is the hearbeat function working properly? I heard some people saying they give fake hearbeat results . Thanks!
BRUNO HIVEEEE
What is the best to buy ?H10 pro or HK8 pro max?
Thanks so much for this video iMat!
Hope it was helpful!
@@iMAT very helpful, I'm now very satisfied with my H10 Pro purchase!
@@iMAT I'm looking forward for more series 8 watches this year 👍 I love the design better than the big and fat Ultra design
You are doing great work
Thanks bro! 💪🏻
Hi IMat, did you know that some of apple watch clone have a secret code to change their boot logo into Apple boot logo?
Maybe you know these code for H10pro and Hello Watch, to change their Hello boot logo into Apple boot logo. Thank you 🙏🏼
Yes, I know. I will share the codes if I get to know about any of them!
@@iMAT Thanks
Test x8 ultra plus
I’ll see if I can arrange one! 👍🏻
Please do video for watch 8 not ultra 😃
Yup a new series 8 model is in my country but the courier ---
To tell you one thing, the w58 and the Apple Watch 45mm are the same size, but the w58 is not compatible with the Apple Watch case.
Hi, silicone case fits it perfectly. Only the speaker holes are a little higher than Apple Watch!
@@iMAT That's right. But full cover cases and hard cases are not compatible. The width of the w58 is thicker, so it won't fit in.
So I had to resell the cases I bought. 🥲🥲
Oh sad to hear about your experience! I have silicone cases only, I will make sure to mention that it’s compatible with silicone/hard case from next time😅
@@iMAT so will the apple series 8 silicone cover/case fit the h10 pro buddy
Bhai india mein h10 pro nahi mil rahi hai. Kya main h11 pro se hi mangwa lu ya fir kuch or ke liye wait karu? Thanks in advance.
H11 Pro ki ressolution acchi nahi!
W58 hs a lot of orders in Ali express !! That meant it’s better than other ?
Which one hv to buy ?
Plz ansower me 😢
I prefer the H10 Pro for myself, I’ve shared my final opinion in the last part of the video 🤗
@@iMAT
Thx bro 😘
@@iMATwhat is the application can i used with watch ? Wearfit pro or Qifit ?
QiFit
@@iMAT thx bro
H10pro is brighter?
You can check the brightness comparison at 06:30 in the video
Pls someone give the link to buy h10 pro in India 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
In India, you’ll have to contact a local shop or website. AliExpress is banned in India because it’s a Chinese company! I can’t recommend any website because I haven’t had an experience with any of them. But I have heard good reviews about Balaji Traders from my Indian Subscribers!
@@iMAT thanks iMAT. ❤️
Immat very bad review you were saying that h11 upgraded version is good, you got me wrong watch
Are you kidding me? That’s not H11 Upgraded. That’s H11 Pro.
This is H11 Upgraded: ua-cam.com/video/0cJXq6i4Kvw/v-deo.html
@@iMAT how can i check ram or storage its not showing should i open dispute with seller? Because I don’t like it all, its like cheap quality same like 8x ultra,,
It has 128MB storage and RAM.
If it has not shipped yet, you can cancel the order and you will get your money refunded in the debit card in 10-20 days.
And next time please mention the name of the smartwatch I used in the title. H11 Upgraded is better than all of them. But this one is H11 Pro.
@@iMAT I didn’t like the screen of h11 upgraded version its cheap,, should i go for w58?? Because the h11 upgraded is looking way cheap and not in good quality especially the screen,, or can you suggest me any watch with amoled display or better looking display than this watch
All watches of MICROWEAR SERIES is best
They’re pretty good!
No clue how to get nfc to work!, this watch is very disappointing, cannot call from it, get my text from it, and it's connected to app! Idk what I'm doing wrong, not a fan of any smartwatch I've tried
Which model are you using?
You are the best 🙂🙂🙂🙂,soon i will have mine 😀
Thankkkks buddyy!!!
Great review!! Do you know any 40mm watches? I would like to present it to my girlfriend.
I haven’t actually reviewed any, but I’m not sure if any good model is available in 40mm.
I am sure your girlfriend has a thin wrist like me haha, and I use the H10 Pro and LA24 smartwatch, and they both look good!
H10 Pro: ua-cam.com/video/cFoGNqsjEeU/v-deo.html
LA24: ua-cam.com/video/JCjoSLeUjfY/v-deo.html
in terms of clarity, viewing angles and display quality, which is better? W58 or h10 pro?
W58
W58, it has a higher resolution too
Brother Please help me I’m from india and i want to buy H11 pro and your Aliexpress links are not working pleasee🙌❤️❤️❤️
In India, you’ll have to contact a local shop or website. AliExpress is banned in India because it’s a Chinese company! I can’t recommend any website because I haven’t had an experience with any of them. But I have heard good reviews about Balaji Traders from my Indian Subscribers!
W58 best ❓
Its for you to decide depending on your preferences :) I prefer H10 Pro, I have shared my reasons in the last part of the video.
@@iMAT why h10pro?
As I said earlier, it’s my preference. And you can see the final part of the video where I’ve listed the reasons why i prefer the H10 Pro. W58 is also great!
@@iMAT by the way, the w58 max appeared
Aoa bro. Have a great comparison video.
W. Salam!! Thanks bro.
@@iMAT please brother suggest the best smartwatch. I like w58 but but they are not available in local market
H10 Pro is also a great option!
This is amazing work bro. Thanks a lot. Will go for the h10 pro. 😊 which color looks great in real live, the stainless steel black or silver color? It doesn’t come in gold color right? And whenever you have time could you check if it has language option “Dutch” or “Netherlands” pls? 🙏🏽
I prefer the black, because every strap just works with it!! And no it isn’t available in Gold colour. And all supported languages are shown in the video!
I got a friend silver and it looks really nice
I want an apple clone watch with features like always on display and apple logo on off/on .. which clone watch should I buy??
Always on display on the watch face or the screen off dial?
w58 or h10 pro? 🥰
I like the H10 Pro more!!
W58
w58 in terms of display but everywhere else, h10 pro but w58 comes in aluminum case and h10 comes in stainless steel
@@aaronlyone in my country, the case of W58 is made of stainless steel, and the case of H10 Pro is only made of metal, not really stainless steel
@@ktt2480 ohh i see, in terms of functionality id still choose h10 pro over w58
very helpful to decide, thanks a lot
Glad to hear that!
I just buy h10 pixel screen look very good than my h11 ultra +
H11 Ultra+ and H11 Pro have a low resolution display!
@@iMAT I guess probably to save the battery consumption. Plus when u look at normal distance it's barely noticeable.
Great video bro. Still waiting for W68+
In depth review?
Or comparison.
Bro mujhe giveaway krdo
I dont even sell them😅 I have to keep them for comparison videos.
FABB
Thanks for watching