15-17 Ford Mustang 5.0 Coyote BLOWN ENGINE Teardown. A Core With a Story You'll Want To Hear!
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Todays Teardown is a Ford 5.0L Coyote V8, More specifically, a second gen engine from a 2015-2017 Ford Mustang GT
My name is Eric and I own and run a full service salvage business called Importapart located in the Saint Louis MO area. Part of our model is dismantling and selling parts from rare and niche market engines. I've torn down everything from an LS7 to a Renesis rotary engine. There are several videos to watch! Check out my playlist of engine teardowns here: • Blown Up Engine Tear D...
This particular engine has a not so pleasant story behind it, and its rare that I get a story at all. Originally, this engine was sold as a drop out from a 2016 Mustang GT. The day it was delivered and a check was written for it, the person who wrote the check called and put a stop payment on the check. They then returned a DIFFERENT engine without the transmission, the engine you see here. Effectively, they stole a complete engine and transmission pullout.
As far as what happened to this, it looks like it was either boosted, or perhaps over revved. Maybe it sucked it water. With only seeing two of these at this point I don't have enough to go off of to form a conclusive reason. What do you think happened?
If you'd like to buy parts from this engine or others I've torn down, feel free to email me at Importapartsales@gmail.com.
Thanks for watching! I'll catch you guys on the next one!
"it takes a special kind of person....."
I am 62 and have sadly, over the last five years or so, concluded that the world is actually quite full of "special people".
Where is uncle Vito when you need him?
When our "leaders" are constantly telling people to reinvent, reimagine, resist, disrupt, this implies that what came before is no good and must be changed. This has fostered a protest culture which indoctrinates people to believe that the ends justify the means. If the means mean stealing from the "man", so be it.
Helluva deal. And your handle didn't slip by me. If you truly are Russian, let me remind you of your own less than glamorous history.
Typically lean left too
@@LichaelMewis not the ones that have beat me out of
That was a perfect way to end that video.
Absolutely! The way you delivered your lines with the utmost sincerity, along with the excellent work "covering up" the details. I was laughing right till the end.
The one down vote is the guy who stole the engine....
Lmao! I'd have to agree my friend! Lol
No down votes visible on UA-cam anymore! Such BS!
We don't like con Artists !!
It's not a special person who does things like this. A monkey did it.
Hmm, full of water with one snapped rod and another bent, super clean inside with clean oil, pristine bearings and cam saddles, oil pickup screen clean... Sure points to an extremely rapid catastrophic failure... Hydro-lock sure seems likely here. Nice work Eric; appreciate your humble nature, wit, and intelligence... We would make great friends I'm sure.
100% agree . the rod that was bent gives it away for me .
It definitely had water introduced into 4&8 cylinders. Nothing else will bend and break rods like that. The rest of the engine shows no sign of premature failure either.
I think i would probably go with water ingestion. The engine is in very good condition otherwise and the carbon buildup on the pistons is not something you usually see on boosted engines. great video.
Apart being blown up this engine must have incredible low miles with very good maintenance. Amazing clean engine inside, in fact I've never seen a such clean engine before like that.
Indeed, it did look nice, and must have been a joy, and then.............
Change the oil every 1500 miles and yours will look the same.
@@rshettle123 It doesn't nee to be that regular, 3-5k is fine and an annual use of proper flushing oil. 🙂
It must have been one of those engines where he just “had” to get those last couple hp out of it.
I learn more about engines watching these post mortems than I'd like to admit.
100% hydrolocked with water while running. I've seen a couple myself that broke the exact same way with a hydrolocked backstory from the owner. .
RT , is the hydro-lock caused by hitting water on a road? Just wondering.
@@johnready630 hydro locked with water on all 8 cylinders?? No way. This motor sat blown for a long time and was passed as the engine that was in the wrecked mustang. Oh, and the car accident caused the broken rod. Lol. I hope the shop owner files a police report.
@@todd5082 No you misunderstood , I'm wondering how or why this is happening to these engines. Blown head gasket ?
With only two cylinders impacted and no indication of detonation on the head I have no trouble with the hypothesis that it sucked in water through the intake and locked up the first cylinder the water passed through.
I support the hypothesis. Proli drove through a flooded road.a bent piston is an indication of hydrolock
“I’m not an expert but that’s a broken rod” -an expert
Never knew what hydro locked engine damage looked like. Staying out of water from now on.
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Yep water doesnt compress and rods will bend/break. I dont think this engine was from water though.. I think this was a bad tune pushing too high of a redline. Rods are not a truly forged design but can handle big power still. I wouldnt be shocked if he was spraying on this engine.
isn't the VIN on the block? If it is then they should have called the Cops when he brought back the other engine.
Where is vim
@@ChrisLongRoofing at /bin/vim
@@ChrisLongRoofing No. He said VIN: like in North Viet Nam: Ho Chi VIN .
@@NoTraceOfSense ex-sysadmin here, laughed way too hard at that
It should be.
I may have actually had a hand in building this engine. I install the Cam Phasers on the 5.0L engine. Can't wait to see what this dude did to this engine.
How do you like the Coyote? Is it a well built engine?
@@JimS870I drive a F150 with a first gen Coyote. It has 346k miles with the only work so far being alternator at 330k, coil packs at 340k and a water pump at 345k. All the work at has done after 325,000 miles. Other than that I just change the oil.
I don't get it ... stop payment on a check, wrong engine returned ... how is this not a criminal case of theft?
Police do not investigate unless there's drugs or a dead body. If the yard didn't carefully document everything and provide the police with a complete forensic investigation with undeniable evidence, zero chance of arrest/prosecution. I've been hired to investigate for what became a criminal case before, cost the company way more than just moving on.
Absolutely right. Also, this happened during the height of covid, and unless it was a life or death situation, the police or court system wanted nothing to do with it.
@@I_Do_Cars Doesn't matter if it was Covid or not - cops and prosecutors don't get involved unless there is a body, drugs or fine for the city/county to collect on. And even the body doesn't guarantee anything.
In this kinda situation u cant go to the police, u go to a lawyer
He can still sue, And eventually garnish wages.
A little tappy tap. I see what you did there Adam.
Before he said that I was thinking he could shave and look a lot like Adam sandler.
I really enjoy teardown videos.
Water damage, definitely. I have a pile of 4 valve 4.6 pistons from one that did the same thing. Love the effort given at the end to protect identities. I'm sure it's more effort than he's given others on a fair shake for business dealings, and that's saying a lot.
Happened to my 2000 gt 4.6 from the in fender intake a friend rigged up.
That ending was awesome!!! You did a fine job redacting his info.
I hope the other shop sued the guy that stole the engine, and passed his name around to other shops so they don’t get screwed as well.
Edit: commented at the start of the video. Excellent job on the redactions. The world should know so they don’t deal with that company.
I'd say this engine sucked up water and destroyed the rod
I feel like you're correct, there is one broken rod and one bent rod.
I agree with you.
Bit of water in intake, hydrolock, bang
Spot on. For a running engine to snap a rod but the piston didn’t contact the head, there was a nice water cushion in there stopping it.
Where did the water come from? It’s a dry intake, from the front of the engine? Or, maybe a intake air inlet that got air from fender well? Hit a big puddle and BANG? Bet that was fun.
When I was young. Looked forward to parts from the repairs around the house. Find the videos great to watch. ( I have repaired a few engines) thanks for making them.
Really interesting videos. First time I've ever seen the guts of an engine. It's like a work of art. A beautiful sculpture that moves.
+1 on sucking in water. Also, LOVE the censoring 😂
When are you guys gonna start stocking those adjustable rods? I've been looking to get a set for myself! ;)
Get some from Nissan. They're factory equipped in one of their engines.
@@headcas620 It's no joke, either - in place of a simple rod, there's a linkage that allows them to vary the stroke length while the engine is running. Search for "VC-Turbo Engine" in Google or your favorite search engine.
That's absolutely a hydrolocked engine. Looks like pretty low speed too. You can tell this happened at low engine speed because it only impacted the crankcase a few times before stopping rather than looking like an Alien vs Predator fight scene, which also implies it's not turbo or supercharger damage because boost doesn't really happen at low engine speed. Someone (I can't tell who, due to how well you censored their info in the video) tried to creep their car through deeper water than they expected, fairly slowly, and it ate a few rods as a result.
With a manual transmission, if they'd done this at any appreciable speed it would have windmilled the rods and definitely knocked those chunks all the way out of the sides of the block as the vehicle decelerated, turning kinetic energy into crankcase entropy.
I’m an older gearhead and your videos are so satisfying to watch. Kudos to you for making these and entertaining us.
In my opinion. Hydro-lock. The bent rods are the give away. Drove through deep water at high rpm. Obviously low mileage. Those heads are beautiful. Mostly what I see on these engines at my shop are broken valve springs.
Great video sir. I learn about engines from watching you do tear downs and your details of the parts and processes these modern engines have. I’m an old school amateur and love seeing your videos. Thanks, Big Al.
That there are subhumans out there is why businesses go broke. Good people just attempting to earn a living. That leaves only the chain stores. And they don’t give a damn. Thanks for what you do. Be safe
Absolutely correct . Thevies come in many forms.
@@secondthought2320 The company that sold this engine didn't record the VIN number on the block when they sold it? They didn't list the trans in the bill of sale? Imagine I bought a new Benz and two days later I returned to the dealer driving a '75 Maverick and said to the dealer, "This Benz you sold me is no good. Give me my money back." and they did. This sounds like a bullshit story to me. Only because I've dealt with wrecking yards for many years and if you tried bullshit like what you just described at any of the wrecking yards I used to patronize, you'd at the very least get laughed at, or more than likely you be spending the next several weeks in traction.
@@MrSloika I think if potential victims like that shop that got ripped off were allowed to put the thieves in traction, you'd see a lot less of that kind of chicanery.
@@adotintheshark4848 This story is bullshit. Every wrecking yard I've dealt with demands cash payments from people they don't know, and there are no refunds, just exchanges.
@@MrSloika maybe this one got careless and then got taken advantage of.
That redaction was spot on. People like that wreck the industry and hobby because they don't want to accept their own faults. I have a Gen 1 Coyote with moderate modifications for drag racing. I know if I go beyond this point where I'm at I'd need to do a lot of modifications for reliability. People ask me why I don't do more. Well, I don't really need Rodney come a knocking until I have a replacement engine built and ready so I'd like this one to not scatter itself haha.
What have you done to the engine so far?
@@lobehold2263 Cams, valve springs, ECU, intake, throttle body, headers, oil pump, alternator. It's pretty much a Cobra Jet aside from the heads, valves, block, pistons and crank. That's where all the goodness and expensive mistakes are hiding.
I have a 96 with IMRC. There were so many issues with it I didn't think ford would go back and do it again.
Imrc means what again?
I had to giggle at the speeded-up impact wrench on the heads - sounds like blowing razzberrys... XD
Yeah, they hydro-locked it.
These videos never get old. Thanks for sharing!
This rod damage looks very similar to the damage in my 6.2 L99 from a hydrolock. I went through an intersection that peaked in the middle, hiding the enormous puddle on the other side. I have an over the radiator intake and she sucked that water in like a wet vac. Snapped my #7 rod and also damaged the piston skirt. The rest of the engine looked perfect, no damage to the block luckily.
I saw another video that was hydrolock on a BMW and it was the back cylinders there as well.
It blows my mind that engines this new end up like this when I've had four vehicles, the newest of which is 22 years old, and yet have never trashed an engine.
I hope the other shop, is now strictly CASH and CARRY!!! With engine and trans serial numbers documented on the receipt. People like the bad check writer make it a pain in the ass for every else.
I really hope they turned this mess over to the cops, writing bad checks is a crime in most states. Plus probably get him for theft too id think. Just hand it off to them and let them have fun with it.
@@sparkplug1018 technically he didn’t write a bad check, he stopped payment which isn’t illegal.
@@FishFind3000 Fair point, still theft keeping the engine after you stopped payment. Probably more trouble then its worth though.
If only my mechanic worked as fast as you do. Zip-zip-zip. High speed. Full teardown in 22 min? - I'd only have to pay an hour's labor.
The bad check writer lives 7 mins from me. lol. Looks like his place is up for rent also.
Amazing how generally clean the engine was inside.
It was really cool redacting any personal information.
That is why in my shop cash only, cashiers check are accepted, but until it clears the car stays in my shop. Same when we buy parts, or engines. Cash on delivery.
Keep these videos coming. I find them fascinating. They are enhanced by your excellent commentary.
The adjustable rod joke is good until you get your hands on one of infiniti's variable compression engines 😝
You gotta get a Ford 3 valve modular V8. The 5.4s were known for their timing problems with the cam phasers. Also they’re an interference engine so that would be very interesting to see
'And today's Science lesson , boys and girls, is that water does not compress"
🤣👍
I just cannot get enough of these teardowns. It's like Christmas morning once a week . And blocking that information was just Righteous
My 98 Lincoln Mark VIII LSC (4 Cam 4.6L) had the IMRC and it did help the drive ability.Gas Mileage, wish I still had the car, then again the Mark VIII had a pretty good aerodynamics to the body.
I really enjoy all the video's. Thank you for making them. Also the knowledge of what the causes are.
As a retire aircraft mechanic, I like to watch you it keeps in the loop and I like your work. I have to admit cracking the head is my favorite.😄
Lesson #1 NEVER EVER take a check for anything. Cash or credit only
We take checks from repeat buyers only. They prove themselves and earn our trust.
@@I_Do_Cars good point. trusted clients get a 1 time pass. screw it up and they're gone too.
I'm so glad he's back to saying "tappy tap."
Seams like and adam sandler line and he kind of looks like a young version of him too.
Its an AvE line. Tappy tap tap tap.
Owner of yard didnt check serial numbers on return engine?
That ending was nuts
LOL He's wearing a shirt that says "Callahan Auto Parts" from the movie Tommy Boy
EBay sells them. I have a white one with green letters
Lifetime warranty printed right there on the box
@@Joe-co4sq I gotta get me one
Yeah... It went swimming
Great channel, definitely hydraulic lock caused by water ingestion. Turbo or supercharger would have burnt valves or cracked pistons.
Had somebody try that swap thing several years ago….kept when him waiting till the cops and lawyers showed up
Yay, that dude got busted by the St. Charles PD in September 2022! Charged with over $300k in fraud 😲
I read that and my heart felt all warm and fuzzy
Check the oil pump and tear it down sometimes the oil pump gears crack on the coyotes also signs of it being supercharged or not are present when the knock sensor wires loom has been cut and separated then retaped
Would really love to see you do a BMW N63. Difficult teardown, but has a lot of valuable parts. Would be very interesting to hear your perspective on that motor.
"I'm no expert, but that looks like a broken rod."
Actually, you are an expert.
Wow, shady af. I hope there were repercussions.
Lmaoooo the outro 😂
With my 30+ years in the automotive industry, I would say that engine definitely ingested some water while running.
Well I might as well be 12 years old with how much I laugh at the farty noises the impact gun makes in the sped up video. 🤣🤣
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You ever wonder why these stories always happen with low rent cars? Mustangs, Camaros, Challengers, etc. I've never heard of a Jaguar, Mercedes, or BMW owner scamming a wrecking yard out of an engine. Different cars for different buyers I guess.
Maybe consider some secondary containment for the spillage you know is coming. It would keep your shop a lot cleaner.
Yeah I had pans under it, caught most of it
@@I_Do_Cars 2 mins with a shop vac at the major inlet/outlets and all but a few drops are gone.
@@I_Do_Cars I was thinking more about making an area specifically for tear downs. Maybe purchase an industrial secondary containment unit designed to hold 4 drums. It’s clear you loathe getting crap all over you and your shop. Just a thought. I enjoy your videos! Thanks and keep it up.
Something equivilent to Auto Trans Autopsy tables that fits under engine stand.................
This was for sure a hydraulic situation in the cylinders. I have seen this before many times. Mostly from high water ingestion. I have also seen this from blown head gaskets and cracked heads. In one case, this guys buddy told him to squirt water in the intake, while at a high RPM, to clean off the carbon in the cylinders and valves......
It takes a special kind of scumbag to do something like that, and with such a great price.
I reckon he'll have about 25yrs to conjure up his next 'job'.
Hey Mr. Sandler, I loved your concert at Pine Knob. I think your new endeavor of engine autopsies is great! Keep up the cool videos.
I like your sped-up portions of your videos. If only we could work that fast.
Could tell there was no spark plugs when the coils didn't make the pop sounds lol
Classic Ford! One of everything! I never used a 15 mm spanner until I bought my Aussie designed and built Ford Falcon.
HA! yeah whoever can steal an engine like that deserves a bit of recognition. Sad thing is the world is full of scammers and con artists. I lose on average $12k per year
its not just an engine. I used to sell two way radios online a lot, thanks to parts swapper scammers I no longer will sell anything online.
Thanks the both of you for reminding me why I refuse to offer public services anymore..the world's gone to hell in a handbasket and my country is the bow on top in flames.
Pulled engine is easy to read and record the serial number. Seller should have recorded it and attached a photo of serial number. Buyer would have to argue his case in small claims court or seller share story with others in the area to black list the buyer.
I'm also from StL area, sure would like to know where not to go for service! Appreciate your informative videos and cool content.
Another marvel of engineering, that is a nicely built small block.
Ahhhh yeah boi i love these tear downs
16 GT here, so far so good
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Unintelligible chipmunk expletives!
This engine is why you don't drive through flooded roads....
Writing a bad check and returning a bad engine that wasn’t the one he bought. I smell fraud on the part of that guy. Hopefully they get him.
My vote-hydrolock because of the other bent rod and that over boost most often causes one weakest link to fail rather than plural weak links.
This is why I do not like dealing with people. sold engine cores for a company years back and would stamp the block with either my initials or the date to verify it was the companies block. you would be surprised how many people would try and rip you off.
Any chance of doing a Range Rover 5.0 block next?
Had to of been water ingestion at low-rpm....if that failed at high RPMs with a blower or turbo, it wouldn't look that good. I've also torn down many engines....maybe not as many as you but quite a few. Low RPM vs high RPM failures and that was a low-RPM failure. I work in a automotive dyno testing development lab.
Great channel… I used a 9mm wrench once. That was on an old Mercedes sedan rear brake line. It wasn’t rusted or deformed.
I need that Callahan shirt.
every novelty t-shirt place has it, any color too.
I'm sure it sucked in water and bend the rods.
Keep us posted regarding the crank, it looks like the last hit from the rod against the block, stopped the crank instantly, so it would be surprising if the crank isn't twisted or warped some way.
First class job Eric! Your teardowns are very interesting and helpful.
Keep up the good work, and watch out for the "special people", unfortunately, they are too common anymore.
Your watching a special person
Buy several large concrete mixing trays. And lag bolt a pallet to some 4x6s to have platform for the concrete trays to catch fluids during teardowns.
Zip tie old head gasket to head to protect deck surfaces during storage
It might've had one of those under car mounted turbocharging kits on it so when he went out for a drive on a really rainy day he drove through a big deep puddle and the turbo became submerged and sucked in a bunch of water which hydrolocked the engine.
The turbos would have failed with that much water. Would have ended up with impeller parts in the engine. However the lack of other damage does indicate that it was hydrolocked. There aren't any low hanging n/a intakes for the S550 chassis, there is a low one for a Whipple supercharger.
@@_illtal I have a snorkel hood scoop right above my air filter element. I could see how water could get in there easily. I don't drive mine in the wet
@@TwinTZGT that would have not be a problem if you went to a car wash or somthing. Rain wouldn't be that much of a problem. I have a SC gen3. Never once even through a carwash did I feel like I was going to hydrolock my engine. Would be interesting to know the exact details of the failure. Seems like the answer is he was dumb.
I had a friend in HS in the early 70's buy a Dodge Challenger from a guy that lived up the road from me. The car was mint, never wrecked or abused..much. My friend picks up the car and later, months later, the engine quit and the drive shaft broke. It was learned that the owner had swapped motors before the sale. Some people are just bastards.
Where do you get your precision devices calibrated? Mine is overdue.
Looks like this one ingested some water at high ram. If it was turboed or supercharged half to death there would probably be some piston skirt scuffing. At least that's what I've seen in the past. This one might not have lasted long enough for that to happen tho. Only one person knows exactly what happened to it and it ain't me!✌
don’t they do vin.checks, I know we did when I worked for a wrecking yard in the 70’s
Bet that was one hell of a kaboom. Can't believe the crap the guy pulled but not surprising these days. Had a similar situation happen in my shop. Brand new build on a 2008 KX 250 motor, guy blew up 3 hrs after he picked it up, then canceled repair payment and tried to make us rebuild again for free, made a few calls and found out he had a history arund town doing this, which is why he choose small shops to work with for bike and vehicle repairs. Being we were friends with the local D.A. I called him up and he came out with the sheriff when he was here and quickly changed his story. FYI, glad you have found a use for a 9mm. Keep up the great work.
And that's why you record the VIN's / SN's off a block, engine, transmission you sell - if the s*** comes back with the wrong numbers....
I sold a modified Evo 8 to an out-of-state guy, and made sure he understood that it need some work to pass an emissions test. He assured me that emissions wouldn't be an issue, and took the car away. I get a call about a month later after he failed an emissions test, and also broke the bolts on the flywheel. He tried to get me to pay for the issues he was experiencing, even though I disclosed the issues I knew about, and I wasn't the one who modified the car. It's almost easier to get a law degree than sell a car these days.
Barely tried to censor anyone’s information here, I love the end of this video 😂
What are you on about? I couldn't make a lick of sense through all those redlines! 🤣
When I was young I got screwed once with a bad engine, and once with a bad 4 speed.
Live and learn.
With the #7 rod being bent and #8 being destroyed it sure looks like water damage to me. Water cannot compress and can easily bend a rod like that.
Fluid in an intake also tends to rocket to the rearmost cylinders farthest from the TB. I'm only surprised 7 was bent before 4.
Ok I just now picked up on the “adjustable rod” thing. I admit I had not heard of them before.
I was thinking, "Have I ever heard of that? What is that?" We're all our own comic disaster sometimes.