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The argument that timestop is a wave is like trying to argue that a visual effect so the viewers can tell whats going on is actually there, the easiest way to counterargument this is to look at dio time skipping, its instant, no effects, nothing, he just disappears and appears.
The six eyes doesn’t give GOJO the ability to automatically know techniques by seeing them. It specifically says it gives him extremely high sensory ability, as well as being able to see the flow of cursed energy. Which allows him to deduce cursed techniques by seeing the cursed energy flow. Tired of people making gojo damn near omniscient.
yeah i dont get how people even misunderstand that like it's shown that he is incredibly perceptive and able to tell when he's being watched as a result of his 6 eyes, which wouldn't make sense if the misconception were true
Bro literally admitted to Kenjaku that his six eyes cannot see through his disguise when he said "Everything tells me you're Sugaru Geto, but my soul is rejecting all of that" and somehow people still think he can just magically see through techniques.
Here's how i imagine Gojo vs Jotaro to go "Hollow purple" "Purple? So it's the same color as my stand" Jotaro immediately gets limitless and proceeds to hit Gojo with a, somehow, endless barrage of black flash powered ora rushes. Roll credits
@@isaquesevero4369if we consider that he would have cursed energy in this scenario then yes, but is not like he would just jump in and use his domain in the exact same moment they meet
good luck having tusk reach gojo before johnny just gets ripped to shreds lol.. (human durability and speed) and you cant just ''rip open infinity'' as its not a real genuine barrier its a concept..
@@jikanwaok speaking of concepts the barrier that tusk act 4 overcame is a barrier that negates the concept of misfortune to the user, the barrier literally not only warps space but time itself to ensure the user isn't hurt or in misfortune in any way and tusk was able to bypass it with ease and spoilers Jesus Christ himself was involved in the creation of the barrier Soo.....
The thing thats seemingly always forgotten is that risotto was not trying to kill doppio, he wanted to interrogate him. So metallica wasnt even used at its full power.
He also got a little careless. I'd say a Risotto like the one from the start of the fight with Doppio but that goes straight for the kill wins 100% of the time
you're right he didn't know Doppio was the boss. risotto was mostly torturing Doppio, he prubably can put razor in the brain, an artery or something like that if he wants, makes sense for Metallica's ability
@@joltenx1014Metallica has a C in accuracy, so he probably couldn't do something that precise. But, yeah, he 100% could have just made a bunch of nails pierce his throat open like he tried with the scissors
You literally forget that Cream removes itself from the dimensional plane, not even head canon it was near automatically stated upon introduction. Cream has the ability to remove all space in its way by eating everything in its range, similar to a black hole that sucks everything in.
@@SixEn8he ain’t smart tho. His biggest brain move is going in a spiral. Gojo can fly and just wait to DE when he pops out. Idk if cream can reach him tbh. Like cream CAN instantly kill Gojo. But Gojo is a fairly smart fighter
@@Knifedog212 Gojo hasn’t shown any flying capabilities besides just flying in one spot, and Cream could fly wherever it wishes as shown against Polnareff and Iggy.
I honestly think Risotto has his match. The only reason he didn't immediately put a chainsaw in Doppio's head is because he wanted to interrogate him. 💀
TBF These guys are really fucking stupid for calling themselves "Experts" on either series, One thing that wasn't mentioned is that: In jjk Sorcerers Bodies act as a simple domain to prevent things from appearing in them internally, therefore completely Negging Risotto. Stated by Gege in a Breakdown after the Kenjaku vs Yuki Fight
six eyes can sense cursed energy and Gojo might have a slim chance to win if risotto has cursed energy, but if he doesn't Gojo gettin folded faster than a lawn chair
28:58 purple could never touch cream when he's in the ball because it's blatantly stated that both cream and vanilla ice hop into an parallel dimension. And the ball is the space they delete around them. Cream would literally eat the hollow purple or just run past it.
@@wadefreaky yes. in fact there is another stand that literally teleports by erasing space. they kinda misdescribed it because the eating is more like a portal and would just go past it
I personally dont think cream can eat hollow purple as it is an imaginary mass, its not something that is supposed to exist so theres a chance its too dangerous to try and erase.
@@x3wootscream does not exist on the same plane as we do the imaginary mass has no way to interact with it, it would just be deleted by the intersection between dimensional planes when ice is in cream, he is basically an invulnerable untouchable, atomizer
Not really saying that risotto would win but i think a lot of people dont realize that risotto wasnt trying to kill doppio when he fought him and was trying to lure diavolo out. I just dont think it makes sense to talk about him not killing gojo in that context.
@@yuritarded5245It was never stated explicitly but based on reaction alone Gojo was not really "seeing" Sukuna's slashes (especially the last one). He might have been able to "sense" them but his reactions does not confirm that he can see them. Only one confirmed by Sukuna to be capable to seeing it is Rika and then by extension Yuta. As for other tecniques, we can safely assume he can see them and understand how they work (e.g. the guy that can create clones, Gojo figured it out upon seeing it). Even the old guy who can reverse damage was afraid of Gojo because he knows that one look and Gojo would know how his CT works. But yeah, it seems that only Gojo, Sukuna, and to some extent Kenjaku (Kenjaku mainly using knowledge and observation while Gojo and Sukuna just knows thru curse energy--why he immediately knew that Megumi has an interesting CT), can figure out how other sorcerer's CT works.
@@yuritarded5245 the whip that miguel was wielding in the movie. Gojo couldn’t see the technique untill he started fighting it. The inverted spear of heaven, he could feel the curse energy coming from it but he didnt know what it could actually do.
Funny enough, this was actually explained by a villain in Steel Ball Run. The guy with the watch that turns back time. Stands are an embodiment of your fighting spirit, so challenging yourself by letting the enemy know what your Stand can do has the benefit of powering up your Stand! Unfortunately, he never gives details as to what kind of a boost this provides and Araki never elaborated. That said, there are plenty of villains who intentionally keep their abilities a secret or even outright lie about what their abilities are.
@@AverageVergil-r2x Pretty much the same principle. I've noticed there are a few series with power systems that can be boosted by establishing special caveats/restrictions that like using this excuse to justify characters explaining their powers to enemies.
@@OmniGmanI think it's more of a narrative tool than anything. JoJo stands almost always have weird and esoteric abilities with nuance that needs to be explained. So people talking about their stands to others is just a means to the goal of explaining to the audience. There's a lot of fights where the internal thoughts of the characters or the narrator explains abilities, regardless.
I am absolutely certain that time stop would bypass infinity. Infinity works by slowing down everything infinitely. However Star Platnium just completely removes time from the equation. The slow down just wouldn’t work
That's not what infinity means, at least in Gojo's powers context. It is the adding of infinite space that creates an effect of something slowing down.
But where’s infinity when theres zero, it’s basically if you multiply any number by zero it is just zero. It’s like the whole giorno vs johnny debate again lol
There is that instance when dio didn’t wanna punch Joseph while time was stopped because he wrapped himself with Hamon. Time stop is theoretically supposed to bypass that because no effects can happen while time is at 0 . But apparently they can. Since Gojo never has it off it would still be on. Just wanted to add to that. Both an abilities from characters are incredibly busted.
@@chrismclean4789I’d assume he meant right after his disks got stolen (because that’s the only point he got shot iirc) but even then jolyne deflected the bullets John Gali A fired at her and he got hit by them lmao
@@LimboDBDAfter his disks was stolen literally means he was a vegetable. Can't expect much. The fact he got shot that much and was completely okay afterwards is impressive in itself.
Okay I need to verify Green Day's ability here, because I see a lot of people claim it's based on the difference of elevation between the user and the victim. But doesn't it just affect anyone who moves downward? As I understood it, Chocolatta got in the helicopter in order to spread his ability over a wider range, not because it's necessary for the ability to work. Ideally, he could just infect someone, then retreat to a lower elevation where nobody can follow after him.
Once you get infected, you really can't go down, you can only go up or stay exactly where you are without moving It's not really based on difference from the stand and you but on the difference of altitude from where you got infected and where you're going
yeah it's only based on current altitude. Cioccolata only took an helicopter because it's impossible for them to reach except Narancia and even if they managed to reach him it would be easy for cioccolata to lower the helicopter
The thing about Jotaro’s time stop is that either way you interpret it they both effectively work the same way. If time is stopped effectively during that moment Jotaro had light speed, and if he moves so fast the world seems to stop you have the same effect
I was thinking about that because in timestop, all of Jotaro's interactions happen in essentially no time at all, so there's no reason to believe Gojo can just defend himself during that time
Imo, infinity would actually work on timestop attacks once Gojo is aware of the threat of it. Since the filter has to recognize the attack to do it automatically, it would absolutely get through the first time. Afterwards though? Every attack in timestop would still be a normal attack, just faster. Nothing could stop Gojo from just keeping it up manually once he realizes he is vulnerable.
@@justjoking5252 the problem is that neither he nor the infinity can actually perceive the things Jotaro does in timestop because for everything outside of it, it happens in no time- as in there’s no actual span of time for the limitless to react
@@thatguy779 I see what you mean, and I agree that Gojo cannot react to it, that would require time to pass. A key detail to remember though, is that as proven in the Hanami and Jogo fight, he was fully able to keep his infinity barrier up without having to detect an attack, even on a then helpless (and therefore not attacking) Hanami. Another key detail, is that Joseph managed to stop Dio from punching him by wrapping himself in a hamon infused Hermit purple. Dio never tries to melee attack him after this, even when he has ample opportunities to when he stops time. It's a fair assumption to say timestop does not negate properties, only pauses them, otherwise Dio would have just gone for the kill. If time stop was used against an aware Gojo, I think they would just crash against the barrier.
@@justjoking5252 those are good points however, the limitless is specifically vulnerable to phenomena that in the case of Sukuna target everything non-specifically. And unlike the Hermit Purple example, the limitless isn’t a barrier of something that blocks attacks, rather it slows stuff down as they approach. This method of defense doesn’t really work when essentially an attack hits that for all intents and purposes either doesn’t physically take place but just the aftermath, or happens in literally less than a measurable span of time. Even if Gojo is aware that Jotaro can timestop, he can’t actually perceive what happens during stoped time because only stand users with specific time related abilities can actually interact with that 2-9 second bubble of non-time
Metallica kinda stomps ngl, the only reason he didnt chop doppio's head was to confirm if he was the boss. Star Platinum in stopped time would bypass infinity, by either having gojo's brain not be active in stopped time entirely or because of this the limitless no longer can divide, making the distance finite, Mind you this is heavilly bias towards gojo since it's assuming his brain can even percieve mftl speeds for his brain to distinguish and divide, when the highest speed potentially in verse is relativistic.
Gojo could prob just rct his blood to not clump up the iron no? Its plausible, but its prob way too precise and all that, only a level of RCT Hakari's auto RCT can use.
Timestop can't even stop hamon from flowing through one's body, distance and space still exist in timestop so infinity should keep running if its already running, let alone cursed energy reinforcement
@@Emerald29ok? Where are you getting that from? RCT doesn’t control the body, it heals it, but nothing is stopping Metallica from making all the blood in gojo’s brain into razor blades instantly killing him. And preventing RCT.
The best arguments for Jotaro would be that technically all movement in time stop would count as an infinite speed due to it being done outside of time, and the fact that Jotaro heavily outscales Gojo in term of AP Durability and Speed
Depends on if she keeps the adaptations Anubis has and is able to move at Star Platinum/Silver Chariot level of speed. If that’s the case she’s definitely gonna be like top 10 of the verse lol
@@cyrus8886Yeah you’re right, but it’s not as fun thinking about who it would work better on. We’re talking about our glorious blue haired queen, the GOAT, Miwa.
Infinity should cancel out infinity, which includes infinite velocity/speed, infinite space, infinite time, and infinite rotation. Anything that harnesses the power of infinity should be a hardcounter to Gojo. Time stop is one such ability, since any distance travelled over a time of 0 will equal infinite velocity.
It depends on the level of infinite, like there is infinitely more number of irrational numbers than infinite natural numbers. So it comes down to reinforcement of gojos infinity like when he did with hanami and jogo when they used domain amplification. Most likely gojo looses
Pretty much no matter how you look at it time stop should counter it: If you interpret it as immeasurable speed then he's hitting him with infinity. If you interpret it as literally stopping time then he once again hits Gojo with an infinity. If you don't think time stop creates infinity then there's also the fact that Infinity shouldn't work when time is stopped. We've seen forces like gravity stop completely. Pretty much the only thing allowed to move in stopped time is whatever someone with this power directly interacts with.
"over a time of 0" But that's not actually the case though is it? If you can stop time for 10 seconds and travel 10 meters then you travelled 10 meters in 10 seconds. You still have a fixed speed IN stopped time. If his technique is active then you'd still be travelling towards him from point A to point B so you'd still need to cross that physical space. Infinity is quite literally just a hard counter to time stop.
no bro, it shouldn't be work like that. since you literally stopped time, the actual time that you need to travel that 10 meter is still zero. the 10 seconds that you have is just a limitation to your time stop ability, people that didn't have time stop wouldn't even realize that you only stop time for 10 seconds. and if you wanna more prove just watch jotaro vs dio in OVA, dio literally teleport while he basically isn't. he just stopped time and travel to somewhere he wants
Quick point. Gravity is not magnetism, it is the bending of spacetime (and we are trying to figure out if it is quantized). However, light *does* pass through the limitless (because Gojo can see), and that *is* electromagnetic, so magnetic fields should pierce the limitless.
That’s somewhat shakey because light wouldn’t be targeted by limitless regardless of if it can because it’s not a threat to Gojo, so we can’t use light not penetrating the limitless to prove that the magnetic field generated by Metallica would effect him.
Technically infinity works and filters everything that six eyes considers a threat. Once six eyes or gojo or both realise magnetic fields or light is a threat, they can filter it out.
The six eyes don't give the ability to just know what an ability does, they just give REALLY good eyesight (among other unrelated abilities) Gojo can see how a person's cursed technique is formed and how it interacts with the world. From that he assesses their technique
Yeah but he can see everything around him in a roughly around 10 kilometer radius. It also gives him extremely high intelligence and the ability to think at 60 times the speed of humans and also learn anything instantly. That was stated by Gege when he explained why Gojo has no real hobbys. Because he just instantly is the best at it
@@Yozora_Kujo incorrect, Sukuna literally made a binding vow to instantly fire the slash without build up. In exchange he had to use signs & chants for the rest of them.
He could have misspoken, it was a 50 minute long rant. Though generally speaking, it doesn't really change anything. If infinity doesn't affect gravity, then it'd be safe to assume that it wouldn't affect magnetism either, they're both fundamental forces after all
@@literalgarbage8014 Infinity does affect gravity which is why you see him flying. He’s basically controlling the space he’s in and moving it with his technique. Not like Ki where it’s a force pushing him off the ground / against gravity. His technique disregards gravity in general. But since he can control his ability on a molecular level. He’s the one allowing which forces apply to him.
In jojo's magnetism IS a form of gravity. Greatly shown with diavolos ability being explained as for fate, gravity, and magnetism being interconnected. Jojo's is weird you have to watch it. Even the main antagonist in part 6 had something like it, his ability basically explaining fate and gravity are intertwined.
23:52 I always interpret cream as moving freely in his own parallel dimension, and deleting anything at his coordinate in the real world, no folding space is going to stop that
The weirdest thing is he doesn’t even correctly describe infinity. He talks about infinity like it not able to block out subatomic particles when it is it just doesn’t perceive those particles like air and sunlight as a threat so it lets them through.
yeah and no, I think cream can bypass infinity but can't eat purple, for the sole reason that purple is made out of imaginary mass, it's kind of like cream itself, it consumes stuff or desintegrates / anhilates it in it's tracks with certain nuances. It would be a matchup by stats, if cream can outspeed gojo it's wraps, if gojo can outspeed cream it's wraps.
The idea of timestop surpassing infinity isn't really hard to explain. In order to stop the force that is time itself, you would need a near infinite control over time to alter it. Jotaro and DIO would clear
@@midnightbat344 I never read part 7 but my guess is because act 4 could open valentine's Love train. Maybe the same way tusk could move in time stop? (I'm talking bullshit)
but infinity could still be active during time stop which would stop dio and jotaro, because dio said he couldn't touch joseph in time stop due to the Harmon coating his body, meaning things like infinity are still active, and time stop isn't really a light speed movement, otherwise they could go around the world in an instant. Its essentially a close range teleport.
Bro nah cream vs gojo is not even close firstly gojo's hollow purple amped by uraume was tank by sukuna which clearly means it does not work as an antimatter instant delete. Furthermore depending on translation cream is a ball of nothingness so would you be able to domain nothing? Or even use hollow purple on it. Cream just neggs gojo
It was Utahime who buffed Gojo what are you waffling about. Cream is so very blind in his dimension and has no means of traveling vertically while in his ball form. Gojo could literally just fly up and when cream pops his head out eventually to see he’ll say “Why is the sky so purpl-“
Vanilla ice can’t see when in cream. Gojo can fly. Gojo just needs to dodge and then vanilla ice needs to come out eventually. Gojo’s six-eyes means he’ll see where vanilla ice is up until he comes out. Admittedly that one dodge is easier said than done, but cream literally got capped just because polnareff got off the ground. If gojo dodges vanilla ice’s first attack he wins easily.
The real question is, could Gappy beat Gojo in hand-to-hand??!!! (I'm not asking seriously, it's just Gappy's hand-to-hand is hilariously good for Jojo standards)
no hes getting folded in hand to hand, hes not weak its just that soft and wet's best feats are like low building level and hes also got no good speed feats or scaling, he needs yasuho to land go beyond as well
@doflamingoisinnocent Your assuming he doesn't have yasuho to start the fight lmfao. We are talking about S&WGB, not regular S&W. I can genuinely put S&WGB at low outer. Just off of d4clt and ta4 scaling. Ap low outer, meaning the stands dura is low outer as well.
@@alphaomega1210 it's not low outer it's a building level attack that will always hit no matter what judging by how it didn't instantly vaporize tooru, with tooru probably having the same durability as other rock humans, so around building level Also before you say anything wonder of u doesn't seem to boost durability at all also SBR characters and jjl characters don't scale to each other at all since none of them have even interacted, not one Also AP doesn't = durability otherwise okuyasu could tank a sucker punch from freiza
@monikabobb5552 As forces Electromagnetism has an effect that can over shadow gravity. Gravity is known to be the weakest of the fundamental forces, but being more prominent as it gets stronger when masses are attracted to each other and collide, where Electromagnetism cancels itself out when opposite charges collide. The weak force and strong force only really have an effect at the atomic level, where gravity has little effect due to the negligible mass. That's what physicists mean when they say that one is stronger than the other.
@@monikabobb5552 then riddle me this. why can a magnet overcome gravity? isnt it because its stronger? (ik we on earth and gravity depends but still.)
Cream manipulates a pocket of an alternate dimension. He's not "eating" space, he's scooping that space into a separate reality. I'd argue that limitless does not stop a ball of separate dimension.
actually i don't think cream void ball is getting through infinity, since the change with the space like the void suddenly appearing in that finite space, then is treated as a threat as will infinity divide the space MAKING it infinity small and stop/ stuck the void portal in between the infinity as it did not exist. i mean cream can theoretically bypass a single layer of infinity through other dimensions and just appear inside of Gojo's body, but i am sure that Gojo can react fast enough to cover his whole body with infinity making void portal stop expanding staying at a infinity small scale
Purple was never shown deleting characters who got hit by it also if it delete stuff hanami should never be able to block it💀 also anyone stronger than sukuna outside jjk verse can easily deal with purple since even sukuna didn't get delete by it, cream has way more feats than purple no contest, also toji should've turn in to ash if delete stuff
The only reason the small amount of characters from jjk can even block it is cus they have curse energy. If someone doesn’t have curse energy reinforcement or CE in general they have “no” defense against it.
@@jonathanrutherford7671 SPOIL ALERT The only one who have "block"it is sukuna, at the beginning of their fight. Further Sukuna take 2 purple but survive
Tusk Act 4 Would just straight up Murder Gojo, we don't even need to talk about it, I also wished "META" explained tusk act 4 with more Detail as it's much more than just breaking a "barrier" Tusk Act 4 is LITERALLY Bypassing & Ripping apart a whole ass Dimension just to reach funny valentine, Tusk does not care & it doesn't matter what dimension he hops to Tusk will simply bypass all of it & catch him. Hitting funny valentine directly is actually Insane if u think about it.
@@da_001he very much needs his horse to use the infinite rotation, sure he can still use Tusk as a normal stand but to use Tusk's ability he needs the infinite rotation which can only be done with a horse.
yeah no, the conditions required for an infinite rotation are absurd and johnny is not getting that off before gojo blasts him with a hollow purple or uses a domain or something else
did u read part 7? johnny literally got duped by diego and got hit himself with the infinite rotation and stephen steel got him a horse and johnny was able to reverse it and its stated multiple times that it uses the horses power
I would say it like purple being a diet version of Cream’s ball. Cause Cream’s ball straight up erases things. While purple just does a lot of damage and appears to erase things.
Yea cus cream is literally nothingness it's not even a black hole because you can at least see a black hole because it destroys light hence absence if light is darkness but cream in it's complete state can't even be seen cus it's nothing and you cant see nothing.
I aint gonna lie Risotto could and would most likely demolish Gojo unless Gojo goes batshit Like, sure, there's RCT, but something he does not have is epitaph which is the main reason Doppio even had a slight chance against Risotto.
RCT can't heal metal knives still in your body. If he just creates knives in his head, gojo can heal his brain, but there is still a knive in your brain..... Risotto could 100% kill Gojo just instantly razor blades in heart or in the brain.
I’d say I would disagree. Gojo the first time he met one of the cursed users at the goodwill tournament. Completely blew off his arms and legs without any hesitation. With only a couple of seconds of seeing him
@@YaniraGomez-m4h Risotto needs less than a few seconds to reverse pinhead him, a trained assassin would probably know to target the head, which also happens to be exactly where gojo's ct comes from.
Time stop could get through infinity because it divides space at a rate. If you remove time Infintity is no longer infinite because the rate is removed, then he'd just clock him in the head
I like how immediately you get Green Day wrong lmao. Green Day, while yes, spreads its spores effectively when its user is above its target, actually functions off of the victim's own altitude. If someone affected by the spores moves DOWN they will immediately deteriorate them based on how much and how long they move. Which of course becomes unstoppable once you fall down. You can actually avoid any and all damage from it by just not moving, and of course this is complimented by Secco's ability to turn the floor into a liquid. So again, by sinking, they decompose instantly, which is why it was so incredibly scary as a package deal.
I thought the same thing and I still think go to beat him because he can teleport and fly, but he never even explains why it just wouldn’t affect Gojo. Why does he think that?
99% of the stands wont be able to touch him BUT for the dozen that does... Gojo is screwed, negative diff even. Gojo goes very high on the list BUT he hardstops at the Hand, and cannot go HIGHER than that. ANY stand scaling the Hand would solo JJK no problems assuming the Mach 3 stuff still holds true.
@@sladelius6174 Subsonic to relativistic for Gojo. Too many anti feats and they have like 2-3 feats for mhs or above. Around hypersonic+ if we are talking about consistency
So, how Infinity is shown in the Inventory arc is that Gojo's brain has to do equations to calc anything coming at him, if you stop time he cannot make this equation work, meaning he cannot block anything his brain cannot calc.
It's actually the other way around. Infinity is always active and he calculates what is harmless and then allows it through. Infinity is even active while he's sleeping. Which is why his students had to ask to touch him. He didn't consciously judge them as a threat that he needs to stop with infinity, it's just something that happens automatically.
@@JohnSmith-j7n It's explained in the Hidden Inventory arc, look up a video that shows the scene. His brain doesn't consciously have to do the calculations, Gojo also cannot affect anything smaller than atomic particles, that's why he can't affect air or light. Gojo says himself that his brain does equations based on speed and mass to use infinity, I'm not saying that anyone can outspeed his calculation time, I'm saying if his brain cannot process anything, it cannot use infinity.
@@JohnSmith-j7n I'm actually confused by this, when does it ever say it calculates what isn't harmful? How would it know to distinct things that ARE harmful then? What part of the manga says this?
@@ElysiumFields306 I read the physical copy of the manga in Japanese. I don't need to look up scenes. Also his infinity can block atomic and subatomic particles since the heat of Jogo's domain couldn't touch him.
18:46 like you said it has range, thus is subject to the infinite distance So he wouldn't even be able to control metal within gojo lol. Gravity actually might not work on gojo since he does fly like you mentioned
One important thing is gojo does have to fuel limitless with cursed energy. He’s able to generate basically infinite but that’s not instaneous. If he gets hit by something so hard that it uses up enough energy to fuel limitless at a single moment he should just get cooked. It’s hard to say what that point is but jotaro is certainly close to that with speed
six eyes optimizes his ce to the point where its said to be infinite, i dont think its like that obv but i also dont think that anyone is really gonna damage gojo or have a drawn out battle to the point where he runs out of ce to put into limitless
Both characters are massively faster than light, this isnt a contradiction. Silver Chariout is shown multiple times outspeeding light casually in the sun fight and hanged man fight, and implied for fighting king crimson
@@crowgentleman8008 He can’t MOVE faster though. He is shown to easily react to cream near the end when he stabs vanilla ice in the mouth, however he is never shown to MOVE faster. Attacks and react? Yes. Move with his human legs? No. He gets in a car to chase someone in a fight where he also does one of his most solid light speed feats. He cannot physically move his body to dodge light speed attacks but he can easily block/react to them.
28:29 A massive misconception about hollow purple is that just because it is an imaginary thing that doesn't exist, it destroys/erases things from existence which is wrong it was never stated to do that what it was said to a combination of red and blue how hollow purple works is that it does a combination of both blue and repeatedly ripping it apart basically on a sub-atomic level making it looks as if whatever it hit got erased however shown by sukuna in the gojo vs sukuna fight or when yuta directly hit sukuna with a hollow purple with a lowered guard he tanked the direct hit of a hollow purple which shows if you have enough dura you can tank a hollow purple or if you have a strong enough defensive ability.
@@Wezlii530 Inaccurate. Cream removes itself from the world itself and dimension, therefore Infinity cannot filter it out since it does not exist, being how it turns into that ball of void to begin with.
@@artistturtle1425 Yes, as long as Vanilla Ice doesn’t peak out, then Wonder of U does not notice Cream, and Vanilla Ice bolts toward Tooru to kill him.
Great video! Gravity is not "like a super form of magnetism.' They are both forces, but that is the end of their similarities. The specifics of gravity change based on which model of physics you use, but in general gravity is a property of objects with mass. One in which mass bends space resulting in objects 'falling towards eachother. This is essentially what Gojo's ability is in practice. He can create that 'hole' or 'bend' in space. This forces objects in the immediate area to 'fill' that space. Magnetism is a result of the Elctro-magnetic force. Electricity and magnetism are two different sides of the same coin. Much like a coin you cannot have one side without the other. This force occurs anytime a charged particle moves. Implying that the power of magnetism is the power to direct the flow of charges. Most likely the reason it would have to be a metallic object is because those objects have strong conductive properties. Technically though you should be able to use this power to change the chemical composition of any object. As chemical reactions are simply electrons moving from one molecule to another. End analysis: Magnetism should work through limitless, it is a force.
1.Six eyes doesn’t just make gojo omniscient, it allows him to see cursed energy at a atomic level allowing him to see the flow of cursed energy and figure out how cursed techniques work stands don’t fall under that 2.without that horse Johnny gon die 3. Rissoto would kill gojo for one reason, gojo is waay to cocky and he would let him get in range. Then he gets a nail in his brain, RCT can’t save him from that. 4. Cream enters another dimension so Gojo won’t be able to see it. And cream Dosent go at the speed of light if so no one would have gotten past him. You can say gojo might be able to “see” the air getting sucked up by cream but if not cream will kill gojo. Cream > hollow purple, say it with me now hollow purple doesn’t delete stuff it pulls and pushes things at atomic level which breaks it apart to basic particles. But everyone not named Sukuna ain’t got the defense to tank that 5. Time stop I doubt cant breach infinity. We all know star platinum is deff more than strong enough to punch a hole through everyone in jjk easily, no god damn shot anyone can even dodge it if you told them 5 years ago. But to be fair DIO couldn’t touch Joseph due to hamon be in active even tho time was stopped so that does give gojo a good chance at not getting hit cuz of infinity. Oh and jotaro cannot punch faster than time he just punches really really fast that Kira said it was like he stopped time. tha
Vanilla ice can’t see with cream. I’d argue six-eyes could see the space removed by cream but even without that vanilla ice has to come out eventually to peek at which point he gets domed by someone with 360 degree awareness. Gojo can fly as well which makes narrowing in on a target while blind almost impossible as there’s a whole other axis to consider. Polnareff won by just getting to the ceiling. People are gassing vanilla ice up way too hard for someone who got killed by a polnareff that couldn’t walk and a dog.
I disagree with 3. Gojo managed to heal a knife in his brain with RCT. From what other characters say you would need to destroy a large part of the brain (or separate the brain from the stomach) and I don't think Risotto has the capacity to do that, especially since Gojo can heal wounds as they form to a degree that he can tank Malevolent Shrine
@@parinlebogs1618 you need to breath to use hamon, if time is stopped how did Joseph use hamon? Fire needs air to burn how did jotaro start a fire in time stop? The fact is abilities, attributes of things would still be active in time stop, for an example, if stops time that doesn’t mean gravity doesn’t work on him. So why wouldn’t infinity still work?
@@majinIP nah gon and killua are the only strong ones in HxH. they can mop the floors with the rest of the HxH cast since theres no gon and killua here
For the so called jojo expert you sure explained gojo's abilities in more detail than the characters you are supposed to be an expert on. Simplifying tusk act 4 as a simple barrier breaker when in reality he is an unstopable force that will chase you infinetly and chase you through infinite dimensions. I love gojo but the meat riding on this one is crazy.
I mean explaining that much extra information wouldnt be necessary in such a comparison, but he could have explained it simply by saying that it's similar to Toji's knife so yea he is not doing a good job
Kinda sad that green green grass of home wasn’t even on the wheel. That would have been an interesting discussion on account of its ability being based on the same mathematical concept that infinity is.
Damn metas…expected you to hold it down for jojo a lil better. Glazing that boy gojo like craaaazy. The fact that you were convinced gojo comes close to cream is insane. Kinda feels gojo is becoming the next goku..maybe that’s just me.
Yeah, no. Its the change is altitude, its not just if someone goes higher or lower compared to the stand There's a scene in the show where the dude was in a helicoptor, he kept going up and the people in their houses just started falling over and dying almost immediately
I think chocolata actually could kill gojo, because he wasn’t immune to the pollen based attack from hanami. I think spores are of a similar magnitude and if they start consuming lifeforms at a cellular level then that would be durability negation. I don't think he wins but i think he is more of a threat than most people give him especially if he just hides somewhere near and populated.
So two things with the Jotaro section: 1. I think the argument of Time Stop being immeasurable speed is stupid. The only argument in series for it is Kira saying Jotaro moves so fast it's like time itself has stopped which we know that's just Jotaro moving that fast, not his ability activated. This point of immeasurable speed completely contradicts what the part 6 stand stats, what DIO says about it in part 3 and what Other Universe Dio in part 7 says about the ability. Basically, time is stopped universally and in this stopped time, only the user of the ability can move, perceive and essentially do anything in stopped time. Stopped time also has different universal laws than that of our own universe and (this is SPECIFICALLY stated) time DOES NOT move the same in the "time stop universe". The time specifics on how long DIO, part 7 Dio, Jotaro can "activate" or move in the time stop universe is just for us to understand a rough equivalent cause time doesn't flow the same in that time stop universe Side note: This is why in a King Crimson vs. The World debate, The World's abilities are greater cause the world of time stop is different from the normal world that King Crimson resides in. Only way to defeat it is to "invade time stop", speed up time stop (by infinitely speeding up the universe), return any action to zero, reflect any damage done by the time stop user, calamity or have infinite rotation especially one that can't be seen. a.k.a. have The World (Star Platinum), Tusk Act 4, Made in Heaven, Soft & Wet Go Beyond, GER, Wonder of U, D4C Love Train. 2. Now THIS is the reason why Jotaro, DIO, part 7 Dio can beat Gojo. Cause in the time stop universe, Gojo, even with his abilities active, can't do anything and wouldn't be capable of invading time stop. Of course it depends on how Jotaro and DIO utilize the time stop dimension. If DIO starts to throw knives and plays with Gojo, Gojo is blocking all of that and unlimited void hits it's over (wonder if it would work on Kars by the way lol). Otherwise if they "Kakyoin" Gojo, or decides to cut his head like DIO was about to do to Jotaro then he Gojo probably loses
I agree with 2, Jotaro probably beats Gojo easier than Dio cos he’s not so cocky. A side note for your first point: the translation of the part 6 guide book says something like “star platinum allows Jotaro to surpass the speed of light and stop time, which implies (to some people) that the speed is what forces time to stop. I don’t personally believe that but it’s not just the Kira feat that supports it. Btw this page appears in the video at 32:37
I'd also like to add in that the highballing was a bit unfair. They bumped Jo to Island from one outlier, but ignored Yuki's black hole feet, something a weaker character not only stood within, but Gege narrated (gege) said was a black hole. Gege does what Araki does, he tells us abilities. If we can use Araki, then why not Gege? Withstanding a black hole is an insane feat No matter how hard you cut it.
Oh yeah! I forgot about that. He doesn't need to sleep anymore. Jesus imagine a life where you didn't have to sleep it would be so productive and twice as long.
21:05 to be fair, wasnt Rissoto still interrogating Doppio? He IS an assassin, so assumedly he woudlnt be doing all these drawn out measures on an opponent he dosent really want information from.
14:20-infinity is not auto on as he has to be awake to hold it on.thats why when transporting the girl with geto in s2 , geto remarks that gojo has not slept as he kept his technique on
Right after the Toji fight it’s shown that he started training his Infinity to automatically block things that are considered a threat, and since Gojo unlocked RCT he can just heal the fatigue. He still loses but y’know
Wait have you not finished all of jjk bro it’s actually auto now lol like it’s been auto since as stated after the moment your speaking of and he fights toji he awakens then beats him then trains and he then gets older and his infinity becomes automatic by the time we see him in season 1
@@muckyesyesindisguise3854 yh but for him to activate infinity he gotta be awake. The random object training makes it so that he doesn't have to focus on it as much but he still gotta be awake
Also Gojo would still have cursed energy and the six eyes and we know for a fact that his hands are leagues better than death 13. Reality warping in the dream or not that baby is getting blitzed in their own world.
Isn't the problem with Cream being he is technically blind. Can't Gojo literally just fly away. Like his advantage against grounded opponents is that he will eventually reach you, but Gojo isn't just a grounded opponent. The blindness with Cream is a huge disadvantage since it's very easy for Gojo to just get out of the way especially with Six Eyes.
I mean besides the fact that Vanilla can also fly, he seems so used to his ability that the blindness becomes less of an issue Also Cream is entirely invisible while using his ability, the only argument against this would be the six eyes but he can't see into a point of space entirely seperate from our own
@@ignotuscapillary8313 Polnareff used Vanilla's rage to beat him, Iggy only took advantage of his blindness to juke him out which basically blinded him with rage. He took the dio thing as such an insult that he basically threw the 2v1 Polnareff recovered and beat his ass and every time after this that he tried to use cream, Polnareff just stabbed him and pulled him out
@@arkkon2740 Even if he can't see the space directly he should at least be able to see the space around being bent. This isn't like world ending cleave which just appears there. This actually travels. (I would also argue not FTL since there would be no need to circle your opponent if that were the case. Just go in a straight line) Yeah he can fly also, but the thing is being blind he wouldn't know when Gojo flies.
@@BocchiTheBox Cream doesn't bend space, the only reason they saw him was because of all the dust and sand that was being destroyed, but if you're in the air with no dust or smoke then he's effectively invisible Also Ice can peek out of cream whenever and the void bubble is still technically there, if not for a limited time afterwards The whole thing with cream though is that everything in its range just gets annihilated, and there are three arguments you can go with 1. He erases the space around him, thus he can eat infinity 2. Since he's in a pocket dimension, infinity can't push him because he does not exist in that section of space 3. Infinity blocks him regardless, but that also means infinity has to block both cream AND the void bubble, which might not work since its intangible and maybe even mass-less
Do I have to make you remember that a Stand can only be kill by another Stand? In other words, Gojo can't see Stands, and he can't hurt them. If he launch a Hollow Purple on an Stand, the attack will just do nothing. Because he's not a Stand user, he can't see them, he can't kill them, he can't even know that they are here. Imagine if the Stand "Lover" go into Gojo, and if Gojo do a Hollow Purple in the Stand master... Funniest thing in the world.
The only thing that sucks with equalization is because things that cancel techniques or magics like Asta’s anti magic weapons you have to scale them somehow
The hardest thing to scale about Green Day (only in the sense of Green Day vs Gojo) is does the infinite distance that Gojo creates mean Green Day is that far away therefore making Gojo disappear faster than my father
@@Wezlii530 So unlike the stands here, the Hand unironically bypasses and unmakes space, which would make it ignore Infinity and reach Gojo. I think the caveat is you have to be kinda close to the target to get it to work.
1:06 that's not how the stand works, it's your altitude relative to the point you were infected from iirc. That's why secco worked so well with him and also why the gang didn't immediately die upon being infected.
CTs in general would probably only work on stands with physical forms that can be seen and interacted with by anyone. Gojo is kinda at a huge disadvantage if ce cant interact with stands at all though yeah.
They are physical most of the time because that makes them stronger but stands can go through wall and shit but they become weaker. I still think they can kill gojo tho
The only issue I see with Tusk is that Diego showed us you can also prevent the infinite spin by severing the part that got hit by it before it travels. Gojo could do that, heal with Reverse Cursed Technique, then be good to go.
The only issue with *that* is the fact that Diego knew because Valentine told him. He had a bunch of prep and insider information that you would almost never have, even if he could do that, how would he even *know* to do that?
The problem with gojo Vs green day is that gojo has his infinity active, so chocolata no diffs him bcs if he is above gojo, he would be infinity up gojo and he will just corrode instantly. No matter how good his reaction is he would die if chocolata above him and he has his infinity active, which is true.
Interesting comparasions, but there are a few problems(like with any I've seen) 1. When we get to light speeds considering physics in any meaningful sense is pointless 2. When we consider infinities, inf/inf, inf-inf, 0*inf and 0/0 are undefined, unless we consider stuff like limits for sequences it's impossible to compare them in any way 3. Gojo's power is supposed to divide space, not slow down movement, it's the visible effect, but not the ability itself, and he can control if he divides space for each specific object as long as he can distinguish it. So any attack unless it can travel through the whole universe, it won't be able to touch Gojo if we talk about typical physical attacks. Vanilla or The Hand I think work on removing space and things occupying that space, so they should be able to reach Gojo, but Jotaro for example won't
We can compare infinities, love train has an infinite amount of dimensions, each dimension is infinity, and gojo is just infinity, X^2 is larger than x when it comes to infinity.We can use limits as you said
Jotaro stomps Gojo Infinity only manipulates space and slows down everything that wants to touch it, but that doesn't work if there is NO time to slow down lmao Time Stop >>>>>>>> Infinity
@@CoolGutrun Learn the skills of who you are trying to defend lmao, there is no "universe" of space between Gojo and his barrier, the only thing infinite is the slowdown Time Stop ( true universal hax) >>>> Infinity
Cream removes himself from this dimension, and therefore cannot be pushed back by infinity and it devours whatever it passes through even it if is around it.
26:56 I’m not entirely educated on JJK manga, but using the clip shown here of Gojo, it can be assumed that infinity isn’t just “slowing down” the objects, this is also talked over at Death Battle with Gojo vs Makima, where it’s more of an infinite distance between the object and himself, so Tusk, (and maybe even Cream and any others) shouldn’t be able to hit Gojo, due to infinity.
I like Kaleb IA’s interpretation and even the guy who did the gojo JJBA gauntlet vid that because of Miguel’s space time manipulation description of Gojo’s ability or even him needing to perceive the attack with or without the six eyes to filter it out is a weakness of infinity and that since the ability to infinitely slow someone down takes time, stopping time should stop that ability but I digress
(10:20) a small correction, as a jojo nerd myself, all i can say that is, yes, he needs to concetrate quite alot of energy to shoot the nail to end gojo, but it does not need the specific conditions, that is something that alot of jojo fans get wrong, and dont hate on me, im just saying that he would with a 95% beat gojo
@@AscendedVessel he can walk at the end of the part, he can walk and he’s act 1-3, but to use act 4 he needs the stirrups of a horse and then that horse needs to run at the golden ratio
Bro stop glazing that shit isn't a black hole. It doesn't have nearly the same amount of power and if that were the case it would bypass d4cs space time barrier and ta4 wouldn't exist.
@@R_ayse you just said ta3s bullets are mini black holes when they act more like a vortex since you have to touch them you're the one who sounds stupid.
@@the_honey_bagel199 You clearly don't know a thing about jojo. One thing you should take note of is that every single joestar has insanely high IQ. Johnny will hit the bullet one way or another
So it's worth noting that D4C: Love Train is a barrier made up of the spaces between infinite alternative dimensions. And since it's triggered by Ticket To Ride it is also a total Misfortune Redirection, which for people who don't know JoJo's is some looney tunes level of "No U" as if you try to hit someone with this with a hammer, the hammer head will snap off, fly into the air, and land on your head with an equivalent level of force. A bullet will magically bounce back and leave a hole in your chest, etc.
@@RG-bv7ec Randomly doesn't actually exist in JoJo's. It's all tied to the karmic system of Fate and Calamity. But yes, it's seemingly random, but still some looney tunes shit occurring to someone
Risotto without any chill wins. Would be interesting to consider if Reverse Cursed Technique fixes y'know, your lack of nutrients and stuff, assuming Gojo ain't gonna immediately Hollow Purple Risotto and Reverse Cursed Tech doesn't add in missing iron, he can probably leave Gojo on his deathbed or close if the battle goes on long enough, and if Rev. Cursed Tech does add in missing iron and such from the blood, Risotto could eventually gather enough iron to do some real cool shit like a sword. Edit: Thread is fun, give it a read.
Bloodlusted Gojo > Bloodlusted Risotto You make an interesting point with RCT potentially fixing missing nutrients. I mean, it creates new, working blood in a limb if you are creating a new limb so it's possible Gojo can create new blood with RCT. I wonder if Gojo could chop off his arm, RCT a new one and just eat the new one to regain his iron
RCT regenerates blood at the VERY least and given how Gojo will definitely start loosing his iron deprived blood he will be able to regenerate new healthy blood.
Shoko confirmed in a recent chatper that RCT users transform CE into blood. So Gojo on isntinct would be recovering back any blood lost during an injury making it very unlikely that the iron deficiency comes into play. If Risotto does not go for a quick kill, Gojo can just levitate above 6 meters and Metallica becomes useless
I asked this question somewhere, but can Reverse Cursed Technique nullify the abilities of Metallica, Green Day, Purple Haze, White Album, Grateful Death, or maybe even Cream?
RCT creates new flesh so it can be helpful for repairing otherwise irreparable damage. RCT can also heal poisons but we don’t know if Current Gojo can do it, just that he couldn’t do it in hidden inventory. It should be able to heal from the frostbite of White Album and maybe even the damage from the mould but not necessarily the mould itself. As for Cream, he should be able to heal any damage dealt to him, until Cream either gets the head or the lower torso which will stop his RCT or cursed energy as a whole respectively.
@@jamestamsitt5806that being said, a good chunk of these stands will likely reinfect or just inflict whatever ability they have onto him again I doubt Gojo would just shake off Purple Haze's virus as it eats away at you as well as spread from other organisms, as a matter of fact, PH punched a wall and it somehow knocked birds out of the sky, that's how long this lasts in broad daylight and depending on the circumstances it would be more deadly because sunlight kills it faster and it was STILL super dangerous
I think an argument can still be made about Star Platinum hitting Gojo in time stop without the ridiculous speed scaling. Things done in time stop are instant, and since stopping time would be the ONLY THING IN THE UNIVERSE that is instantaneous, it would bypass infinity (since infinity is an infinite distance, but only to things moving towards gojo) and Jotaro would cave in Gojos head. TLDR: Infinity works by slowing how fast things approach gojo exponentially, but Time Stop eradicates the speed formula by being instantaneous Jotaro would be able to demolish Gojo in stopped time.
Infinity doesn't slow things down though. Things just appear to slow down to the human eye. In reality, since Jotaro still has a fixed speed IN stopped time and has to move from point A to point B in stopped time, infinity would still work. How far can he travel in those few seconds that time is stopped? Can he move to the other end of the universe in an instant just because time is stopped? Even if he could, that'd still be too slow to bypass infinity.
@@JohnSmith-j7n Infinity is dividing space sure, but it's doing that via decimal points not via adding more space. Basically it turns a distance from 1 inch into 1.0000000000000000000000000000001 inch. Till an object clears those infinite decimal points it can't reach Gojo.... But in stopped time, thats still just 1 inch. The distance isnt actively dividing so it's not infinite hence the extra space doesn't exist.
@@jasonfurumetarualkemisto5917 Why wouldn't it be dividing space? Infinity is always active even while Gojo is sleeping. He also kept it on in the prison realm where time doesn't flow. Hamon by jojo rules can work and flow even in stopped time so I don't see why cursed energy couldn't.
@@JohnSmith-j7nother stands don't, clearly Hamon is a special case, cursed energy can't suddenly have hamons specific hax when even stands can't move in time stop
@@theredandblueyakuza Stands can't move in stopped time but they're still manifested in stopped time as they don't just disappear the moment time is stopped meaning infinity would be manifested as well.
PLEASE do mahoraga vs Kars, me and my bro were discussing this for AGES and since we don't know a thing about power scaling, we didn't know who would win
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The argument that timestop is a wave is like trying to argue that a visual effect so the viewers can tell whats going on is actually there, the easiest way to counterargument this is to look at dio time skipping, its instant, no effects, nothing, he just disappears and appears.
You forgot about one thing. stands are not physical. Star platinum and Cream would destroy him as long as they get close or star platinum stops time
The six eyes doesn’t give GOJO the ability to automatically know techniques by seeing them. It specifically says it gives him extremely high sensory ability, as well as being able to see the flow of cursed energy. Which allows him to deduce cursed techniques by seeing the cursed energy flow. Tired of people making gojo damn near omniscient.
yeah i dont get how people even misunderstand that like it's shown that he is incredibly perceptive and able to tell when he's being watched as a result of his 6 eyes, which wouldn't make sense if the misconception were true
Its so good he can disuse a ability instantly, from looking at it one. Unless u evolved mid fight.
Yeah people really blow him out of proportion
Bro literally admitted to Kenjaku that his six eyes cannot see through his disguise when he said "Everything tells me you're Sugaru Geto, but my soul is rejecting all of that" and somehow people still think he can just magically see through techniques.
@@VannMunson It's more of à buff for kengaku than a nerf for gojo.
Here's how i imagine Gojo vs Jotaro to go
"Hollow purple"
"Purple? So it's the same color as my stand"
Jotaro immediately gets limitless and proceeds to hit Gojo with a, somehow, endless barrage of black flash powered ora rushes. Roll credits
So true
Bro stole ONE STAND ABILITY and now everyone is treating him like he's kakashi
@@doodlehates_uttpJotaro's Ultimate ability is to copy whatever the fuck he wants
He's the ultimate lifeform but better frfr
Jotaro solos ketchup
Infinity void woul be insta win no ?
@@isaquesevero4369if we consider that he would have cursed energy in this scenario then yes, but is not like he would just jump in and use his domain in the exact same moment they meet
"Gojo solos all verses cuz of infinity"
*Gojo watches in terror as tusk act 4 opens infinity like a soda can*
This isnt original btw
good luck having tusk reach gojo before johnny just gets ripped to shreds lol.. (human durability and speed) and you cant just ''rip open infinity'' as its not a real genuine barrier its a concept..
Just say you're uninformed @@jikanwa
@@berryber5550 no point in arguing with a midjo fan, yall are too biased lol its so cringe
@@jikanwabro who tf isn't biased.everyone is biased in some way even you.
@@jikanwaok speaking of concepts the barrier that tusk act 4 overcame is a barrier that negates the concept of misfortune to the user, the barrier literally not only warps space but time itself to ensure the user isn't hurt or in misfortune in any way and tusk was able to bypass it with ease and spoilers Jesus Christ himself was involved in the creation of the barrier Soo.....
Its an absolute crime to have not named this video "Gojo's Bizzare Adventure "
Ahh shit you're right. That sounds perfect for a video title.
Great point.
oh yeah!
you are right!
Jojo, Gojo, Jogo... Where the hell is Gogo?
@@skyrt7426 Highway Gogo from Part 4
The thing thats seemingly always forgotten is that risotto was not trying to kill doppio, he wanted to interrogate him. So metallica wasnt even used at its full power.
He also got a little careless. I'd say a Risotto like the one from the start of the fight with Doppio but that goes straight for the kill wins 100% of the time
i mean if he wanted to kill doppio he could just make like 780 knives just fucking appear in his heart and he just flatlines immediately
@@e-duh3529 He woulda been unfazed if it weren't for Narancia butting in
you're right he didn't know Doppio was the boss. risotto was mostly torturing Doppio, he prubably can put razor in the brain, an artery or something like that if he wants, makes sense for Metallica's ability
@@joltenx1014Metallica has a C in accuracy, so he probably couldn't do something that precise. But, yeah, he 100% could have just made a bunch of nails pierce his throat open like he tried with the scissors
>JoJo expert
>explains Green Day’s ability wrong
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Why they dont know that mold is mold. Its at a cellular level and you have to be inside a range
yea i just stopped watching cause of the riding and they cant even get a simple stand right
I mean, they also said that Gravity is a type of Magnetism lol
I think that's true tho they both have a pulling force@@heatran1919
You literally forget that Cream removes itself from the dimensional plane, not even head canon it was near automatically stated upon introduction. Cream has the ability to remove all space in its way by eating everything in its range, similar to a black hole that sucks everything in.
Cream is basically Hollow purple but a stand
@@VariouslyCommonA smart, guided hollow purple
@@SixEn8he ain’t smart tho. His biggest brain move is going in a spiral. Gojo can fly and just wait to DE when he pops out. Idk if cream can reach him tbh. Like cream CAN instantly kill Gojo. But Gojo is a fairly smart fighter
@@VariouslyCommon And with more AP
@@Knifedog212 Gojo hasn’t shown any flying capabilities besides just flying in one spot, and Cream could fly wherever it wishes as shown against Polnareff and Iggy.
I honestly think Risotto has his match. The only reason he didn't immediately put a chainsaw in Doppio's head is because he wanted to interrogate him. 💀
TBF These guys are really fucking stupid for calling themselves "Experts" on either series, One thing that wasn't mentioned is that: In jjk Sorcerers Bodies act as a simple domain to prevent things from appearing in them internally, therefore completely Negging Risotto. Stated by Gege in a Breakdown after the Kenjaku vs Yuki Fight
six eyes can sense cursed energy and Gojo might have a slim chance to win if risotto has cursed energy, but if he doesn't Gojo gettin folded faster than a lawn chair
@@Joejitsu2 nothing is appearing in them internally, the iron that is already in his body is getting molded into razors and shi
Metallica has to get really close to be that precise + Gojo has reverse cursed technique
@@Joejitsu2the iron already exists in their body
28:58 purple could never touch cream when he's in the ball because it's blatantly stated that both cream and vanilla ice hop into an parallel dimension. And the ball is the space they delete around them.
Cream would literally eat the hollow purple or just run past it.
cream can eat space itself wow.
@@wadefreaky yes. in fact there is another stand that literally teleports by erasing space. they kinda misdescribed it because the eating is more like a portal and would just go past it
I personally dont think cream can eat hollow purple as it is an imaginary mass, its not something that is supposed to exist so theres a chance its too dangerous to try and erase.
@@x3woots a basic explanation is Cream is basically hollow purple but it can move on its own.
@@x3wootscream does not exist on the same plane as we do the imaginary mass has no way to interact with it, it would just be deleted by the intersection between dimensional planes when ice is in cream, he is basically an invulnerable untouchable, atomizer
Not really saying that risotto would win but i think a lot of people dont realize that risotto wasnt trying to kill doppio when he fought him and was trying to lure diavolo out. I just dont think it makes sense to talk about him not killing gojo in that context.
He was until Doppio stopped his neck from being split, then Risotto tried to figure out who Doppio was.
Pretty much. He was messing around and questioning Doppio because he wanted info.
If he is bloodlusted Gojo would die.
W pfp
satoru would be instant dead. and considering there are no pain receptors in the brain? yeah d.e.d. dead!
Risotto Nero literally just one taps people when he's on a job. He'll just Spawn Scissors in their neck or something messed up like that.
It's absolutely crazy to say the six eyes in the Jojo verse can see all stand techniques, when he can't even see some techniques if any in his verse
Can you name some of these said unseen techniques by Gojo?
@@yuritarded5245It was never stated explicitly but based on reaction alone Gojo was not really "seeing" Sukuna's slashes (especially the last one). He might have been able to "sense" them but his reactions does not confirm that he can see them. Only one confirmed by Sukuna to be capable to seeing it is Rika and then by extension Yuta. As for other tecniques, we can safely assume he can see them and understand how they work (e.g. the guy that can create clones, Gojo figured it out upon seeing it). Even the old guy who can reverse damage was afraid of Gojo because he knows that one look and Gojo would know how his CT works. But yeah, it seems that only Gojo, Sukuna, and to some extent Kenjaku (Kenjaku mainly using knowledge and observation while Gojo and Sukuna just knows thru curse energy--why he immediately knew that Megumi has an interesting CT), can figure out how other sorcerer's CT works.
@@yuritarded5245 the whip that miguel was wielding in the movie. Gojo couldn’t see the technique untill he started fighting it. The inverted spear of heaven, he could feel the curse energy coming from it but he didnt know what it could actually do.
@@TheirPreacherthose are cursed tools not techniques
@@AutisticIrish he couldnt see mahitos techniques when he was in shibuya, and his six eyes didnt detect kenjaku
Gojo doesn’t even need six eyes to work, every stand user explains all the intricate details of their abilities unprompted in the middle of battle
Funny enough, this was actually explained by a villain in Steel Ball Run. The guy with the watch that turns back time. Stands are an embodiment of your fighting spirit, so challenging yourself by letting the enemy know what your Stand can do has the benefit of powering up your Stand! Unfortunately, he never gives details as to what kind of a boost this provides and Araki never elaborated.
That said, there are plenty of villains who intentionally keep their abilities a secret or even outright lie about what their abilities are.
@@OmniGman so like revealing your hand in JJK?
@@AverageVergil-r2x
Pretty much the same principle. I've noticed there are a few series with power systems that can be boosted by establishing special caveats/restrictions that like using this excuse to justify characters explaining their powers to enemies.
@@OmniGmanI think it's more of a narrative tool than anything. JoJo stands almost always have weird and esoteric abilities with nuance that needs to be explained. So people talking about their stands to others is just a means to the goal of explaining to the audience.
There's a lot of fights where the internal thoughts of the characters or the narrator explains abilities, regardless.
The six eyes are the reason Gojo is so strong
I am absolutely certain that time stop would bypass infinity. Infinity works by slowing down everything infinitely. However Star Platnium just completely removes time from the equation. The slow down just wouldn’t work
That's not what infinity means, at least in Gojo's powers context. It is the adding of infinite space that creates an effect of something slowing down.
But where’s infinity when theres zero, it’s basically if you multiply any number by zero it is just zero. It’s like the whole giorno vs johnny debate again lol
There is that instance when dio didn’t wanna punch Joseph while time was stopped because he wrapped himself with Hamon. Time stop is theoretically supposed to bypass that because no effects can happen while time is at 0 . But apparently they can. Since Gojo never has it off it would still be on. Just wanted to add to that. Both an abilities from characters are incredibly busted.
@@o0ugi860 doesn’t hamon have to be actively maintained as well?
@@YaniraGomez-m4hkind of but not really, it persists for some time after it’s used, like when caesar attacks with hamon infused bubbles
One of the funnier matchups would be Gojo vs Kenzou and Dragon's Dream. Imagine Gojo being defeated by sheer bullshit.
His hollow purple fusing with the dragon and then the dragon shoots it back to Gojo
Dragon’s dream to gojo: Your lucky colour is violet
"Imaginary Techinque Hollow Purple."
_Ultrakill Parry Sound Effect._
_"Oh-"_
@@memes_the_dna_of_the_soul5487 Sounds reasonable
@@memes_the_dna_of_the_soul5487 I'm not gonna sugarcoat it.
*F*
Meta trying not to d ride gojo challenge level:impossible
He's pissing me off too
Bro what are you on about they tried to say jotaro can tank hollow purple
Bro he got shot in part 6 by a 9mm 💀 ☠️
@@the_honey_bagel199 When? Jotaro always reflected bullets. He only died to Made In Heaven.
@@chrismclean4789I’d assume he meant right after his disks got stolen (because that’s the only point he got shot iirc) but even then jolyne deflected the bullets John Gali A fired at her and he got hit by them lmao
@@LimboDBDAfter his disks was stolen literally means he was a vegetable. Can't expect much. The fact he got shot that much and was completely okay afterwards is impressive in itself.
Okay I need to verify Green Day's ability here, because I see a lot of people claim it's based on the difference of elevation between the user and the victim. But doesn't it just affect anyone who moves downward?
As I understood it, Chocolatta got in the helicopter in order to spread his ability over a wider range, not because it's necessary for the ability to work. Ideally, he could just infect someone, then retreat to a lower elevation where nobody can follow after him.
Wiki does say its just "if they lower their altitude" and that checks out from the subs i remember watching so i think so, yeah
Once you get infected, you really can't go down, you can only go up or stay exactly where you are without moving
It's not really based on difference from the stand and you but on the difference of altitude from where you got infected and where you're going
yeah it's only based on current altitude. Cioccolata only took an helicopter because it's impossible for them to reach except Narancia and even if they managed to reach him it would be easy for cioccolata to lower the helicopter
Yes, like Green Day low diffs
@@Metal.B.Studio its almost as if you didnt watch the video...
The thing about Jotaro’s time stop is that either way you interpret it they both effectively work the same way. If time is stopped effectively during that moment Jotaro had light speed, and if he moves so fast the world seems to stop you have the same effect
I was thinking about that because in timestop, all of Jotaro's interactions happen in essentially no time at all, so there's no reason to believe Gojo can just defend himself during that time
Imo, infinity would actually work on timestop attacks once Gojo is aware of the threat of it.
Since the filter has to recognize the attack to do it automatically, it would absolutely get through the first time.
Afterwards though? Every attack in timestop would still be a normal attack, just faster. Nothing could stop Gojo from just keeping it up manually once he realizes he is vulnerable.
@@justjoking5252 the problem is that neither he nor the infinity can actually perceive the things Jotaro does in timestop because for everything outside of it, it happens in no time- as in there’s no actual span of time for the limitless to react
@@thatguy779
I see what you mean, and I agree that Gojo cannot react to it, that would require time to pass.
A key detail to remember though, is that as proven in the Hanami and Jogo fight, he was fully able to keep his infinity barrier up without having to detect an attack, even on a then helpless (and therefore not attacking) Hanami.
Another key detail, is that Joseph managed to stop Dio from punching him by wrapping himself in a hamon infused Hermit purple. Dio never tries to melee attack him after this, even when he has ample opportunities to when he stops time. It's a fair assumption to say timestop does not negate properties, only pauses them, otherwise Dio would have just gone for the kill.
If time stop was used against an aware Gojo, I think they would just crash against the barrier.
@@justjoking5252 those are good points however, the limitless is specifically vulnerable to phenomena that in the case of Sukuna target everything non-specifically. And unlike the Hermit Purple example, the limitless isn’t a barrier of something that blocks attacks, rather it slows stuff down as they approach. This method of defense doesn’t really work when essentially an attack hits that for all intents and purposes either doesn’t physically take place but just the aftermath, or happens in literally less than a measurable span of time. Even if Gojo is aware that Jotaro can timestop, he can’t actually perceive what happens during stoped time because only stand users with specific time related abilities can actually interact with that 2-9 second bubble of non-time
Metallica kinda stomps ngl, the only reason he didnt chop doppio's head was to confirm if he was the boss. Star Platinum in stopped time would bypass infinity, by either having gojo's brain not be active in stopped time entirely or because of this the limitless no longer can divide, making the distance finite, Mind you this is heavilly bias towards gojo since it's assuming his brain can even percieve mftl speeds for his brain to distinguish and divide, when the highest speed potentially in verse is relativistic.
Absolutely agree, Metallica wanted info out of doppio, man could have ended him then and there
Gojo could prob just rct his blood to not clump up the iron no?
Its plausible, but its prob way too precise and all that, only a level of RCT Hakari's auto RCT can use.
Timestop can't even stop hamon from flowing through one's body, distance and space still exist in timestop so infinity should keep running if its already running, let alone cursed energy reinforcement
@@Emerald29ok? Where are you getting that from? RCT doesn’t control the body, it heals it, but nothing is stopping Metallica from making all the blood in gojo’s brain into razor blades instantly killing him. And preventing RCT.
The best arguments for Jotaro would be that technically all movement in time stop would count as an infinite speed due to it being done outside of time, and the fact that Jotaro heavily outscales Gojo in term of AP Durability and Speed
Imagine if Miwa wields Anubis. How strong would she be in JJK if she has Anubis?
Still useless
Anubis will be better on a heavenly restricted user
Easily a special grade tool
It's like a soul split katana with adaptation built in
Depends on if she keeps the adaptations Anubis has and is able to move at Star Platinum/Silver Chariot level of speed. If that’s the case she’s definitely gonna be like top 10 of the verse lol
@@cyrus8886Yeah you’re right, but it’s not as fun thinking about who it would work better on. We’re talking about our glorious blue haired queen, the GOAT, Miwa.
She cant even swing the sword because of her binding vow
''hoi Josuke! With Za Hando i removed purple, neat uh?''
"oi josuke! Za hand just deleted that funni white spiky blindfolded man!
Neat huh?"
Infinity should cancel out infinity, which includes infinite velocity/speed, infinite space, infinite time, and infinite rotation. Anything that harnesses the power of infinity should be a hardcounter to Gojo. Time stop is one such ability, since any distance travelled over a time of 0 will equal infinite velocity.
It depends on the level of infinite, like there is infinitely more number of irrational numbers than infinite natural numbers. So it comes down to reinforcement of gojos infinity like when he did with hanami and jogo when they used domain amplification. Most likely gojo looses
Pretty much no matter how you look at it time stop should counter it:
If you interpret it as immeasurable speed then he's hitting him with infinity.
If you interpret it as literally stopping time then he once again hits Gojo with an infinity.
If you don't think time stop creates infinity then there's also the fact that Infinity shouldn't work when time is stopped. We've seen forces like gravity stop completely. Pretty much the only thing allowed to move in stopped time is whatever someone with this power directly interacts with.
"over a time of 0"
But that's not actually the case though is it? If you can stop time for 10 seconds and travel 10 meters then you travelled 10 meters in 10 seconds.
You still have a fixed speed IN stopped time. If his technique is active then you'd still be travelling towards him from point A to point B so you'd still need to cross that physical space.
Infinity is quite literally just a hard counter to time stop.
no bro, it shouldn't be work like that. since you literally stopped time, the actual time that you need to travel that 10 meter is still zero. the 10 seconds that you have is just a limitation to your time stop ability, people that didn't have time stop wouldn't even realize that you only stop time for 10 seconds. and if you wanna more prove just watch jotaro vs dio in OVA, dio literally teleport while he basically isn't. he just stopped time and travel to somewhere he wants
@@JohnSmith-j7n if you move 10 meters in stopped time, the time it took for you to move that 10 meters is zero, because time was stopped.
Quick point. Gravity is not magnetism, it is the bending of spacetime (and we are trying to figure out if it is quantized). However, light *does* pass through the limitless (because Gojo can see), and that *is* electromagnetic, so magnetic fields should pierce the limitless.
FACT
That’s somewhat shakey because light wouldn’t be targeted by limitless regardless of if it can because it’s not a threat to Gojo, so we can’t use light not penetrating the limitless to prove that the magnetic field generated by Metallica would effect him.
Technically infinity works and filters everything that six eyes considers a threat. Once six eyes or gojo or both realise magnetic fields or light is a threat, they can filter it out.
okey but is it safe to separate yourself from light and magnetic field though.
The reason light goes through infinity, is that Gojo doesn't perceive it as a threat.
The six eyes don't give the ability to just know what an ability does, they just give REALLY good eyesight (among other unrelated abilities)
Gojo can see how a person's cursed technique is formed and how it interacts with the world. From that he assesses their technique
Yup! Just lets him see how the cursed energy flows, and he deduces how techniques work based on the movements he saw from it.
Six eye's doesn't make Gojo omniscient bruh 💀 the d riding is real
ik im late, but they sucking his meat the whole time.
Sigma ass kid😭
Yeah but he can see everything around him in a roughly around 10 kilometer radius. It also gives him extremely high intelligence and the ability to think at 60 times the speed of humans and also learn anything instantly. That was stated by Gege when he explained why Gojo has no real hobbys. Because he just instantly is the best at it
@@ilcappa3574 Well I agree he isn't omniscient but he only didnt see the slash because he was blinded by arrogance and just wanted to destroy Mahoraga
@@Yozora_Kujo incorrect, Sukuna literally made a binding vow to instantly fire the slash without build up. In exchange he had to use signs & chants for the rest of them.
Magnetism is a form of gravity is a quote that makes me question the quality of your education
i know right. it is not. its one of the 4 fundamental forces of the universe, these guys not to too intelligent.
He could have misspoken, it was a 50 minute long rant. Though generally speaking, it doesn't really change anything. If infinity doesn't affect gravity, then it'd be safe to assume that it wouldn't affect magnetism either, they're both fundamental forces after all
@da_001 you can't be wring about one thing and still be smart
@@literalgarbage8014 Infinity does affect gravity which is why you see him flying. He’s basically controlling the space he’s in and moving it with his technique. Not like Ki where it’s a force pushing him off the ground / against gravity. His technique disregards gravity in general. But since he can control his ability on a molecular level. He’s the one allowing which forces apply to him.
In jojo's magnetism IS a form of gravity. Greatly shown with diavolos ability being explained as for fate, gravity, and magnetism being interconnected. Jojo's is weird you have to watch it. Even the main antagonist in part 6 had something like it, his ability basically explaining fate and gravity are intertwined.
Never let META cook again 💀
23:52 I always interpret cream as moving freely in his own parallel dimension, and deleting anything at his coordinate in the real world, no folding space is going to stop that
Yeah, it was literally stated that its how it happened.
"Interpret" thats literally cream
bro he literally told that shit and showed us in the anime 😭
@@evellol2059 Fr man
But Cream can just eat the Purple, because it gets sucked into the dimension
Exactly
the youtuber meatride gojo like crazy
The weirdest thing is he doesn’t even correctly describe infinity. He talks about infinity like it not able to block out subatomic particles when it is it just doesn’t perceive those particles like air and sunlight as a threat so it lets them through.
yeah and no, I think cream can bypass infinity but can't eat purple, for the sole reason that purple is made out of imaginary mass, it's kind of like cream itself, it consumes stuff or desintegrates / anhilates it in it's tracks with certain nuances. It would be a matchup by stats, if cream can outspeed gojo it's wraps, if gojo can outspeed cream it's wraps.
no it won't because purple is bigger
than cream and cream destroys atoms not sending
things to a dimension
The idea of timestop surpassing infinity isn't really hard to explain. In order to stop the force that is time itself, you would need a near infinite control over time to alter it. Jotaro and DIO would clear
That also depend hmm since tusk also can move in timestop but only tusk since he the only one have the energy that why johny still freeze but not tusk
@@midnightbat344 I never read part 7 but my guess is because act 4 could open valentine's Love train. Maybe the same way tusk could move in time stop? (I'm talking bullshit)
@@Melons.Number1fan only tusk can move but not the user
but infinity could still be active during time stop which would stop dio and jotaro, because dio said he couldn't touch joseph in time stop due to the Harmon coating his body, meaning things like infinity are still active, and time stop isn't really a light speed movement, otherwise they could go around the world in an instant. Its essentially a close range teleport.
mostly depends on how much damage they can do during their respective duration due to how durable gojo is
Bro nah cream vs gojo is not even close firstly gojo's hollow purple amped by uraume was tank by sukuna which clearly means it does not work as an antimatter instant delete. Furthermore depending on translation cream is a ball of nothingness so would you be able to domain nothing? Or even use hollow purple on it. Cream just neggs gojo
You could argue Sukuna didn't tank it, but used domain amplification to absorb the attack, thus mitigating the damage.
The user of cream is in a completely separate dimension iirc so i doubt domain expansions would even detect it.
It was Utahime who buffed Gojo what are you waffling about. Cream is so very blind in his dimension and has no means of traveling vertically while in his ball form. Gojo could literally just fly up and when cream pops his head out eventually to see he’ll say “Why is the sky so purpl-“
Bloodlusted cream honestly solos jjk,his dura neg and separate dimension hopping is too much for the jkkverse
Vanilla ice can’t see when in cream. Gojo can fly. Gojo just needs to dodge and then vanilla ice needs to come out eventually. Gojo’s six-eyes means he’ll see where vanilla ice is up until he comes out. Admittedly that one dodge is easier said than done, but cream literally got capped just because polnareff got off the ground. If gojo dodges vanilla ice’s first attack he wins easily.
If time stop was a wave
MIH Pucci would have got UltraWide everytime Jotaro stopped time
fr, i never thought of that, its cursed as hell
@@r3voi254 fr, and its smart too
Pucci would have looked like Wide Putin LMFAO
I imagined this shit and started laughing because the image of pucci being simply WIDE during TS was just too funny for me.
Yea jotaro would have killed him with a single time stop. Seeing as his particles would resume their inertia afterwords and spagettifi him
Gojo watching a pink eraser / refrigerator open his infinity like a birthday gift wrapper and all
The real question is, could Gappy beat Gojo in hand-to-hand??!!!
(I'm not asking seriously, it's just Gappy's hand-to-hand is hilariously good for Jojo standards)
It has to be hand to hand because if gappy uses S&WGB, the bubbles neg.
no hes getting folded in hand to hand, hes not weak its just that soft and wet's best feats are like low building level and hes also got no good speed feats or scaling, he needs yasuho to land go beyond as well
@doflamingoisinnocent Your assuming he doesn't have yasuho to start the fight lmfao. We are talking about S&WGB, not regular S&W. I can genuinely put S&WGB at low outer. Just off of d4clt and ta4 scaling. Ap low outer, meaning the stands dura is low outer as well.
@@alphaomega1210 it's not low outer it's a building level attack that will always hit no matter what judging by how it didn't instantly vaporize tooru, with tooru probably having the same durability as other rock humans, so around building level
Also before you say anything wonder of u doesn't seem to boost durability at all also SBR characters and jjl characters don't scale to each other at all since none of them have even interacted, not one
Also AP doesn't = durability otherwise okuyasu could tank a sucker punch from freiza
@doflamingoisinnocent The hand prolly could, but that's not the point. Do you need the scale?
Magnetism is stronger than gravity, not the other way around lol
Nither is stronger their both fundamental forces of the univers
Gravity is the bending of space through mas. Magnetism/electricity/electro magnetisme is the moving of electrons and derection of molecules
@monikabobb5552 As forces Electromagnetism has an effect that can over shadow gravity. Gravity is known to be the weakest of the fundamental forces, but being more prominent as it gets stronger when masses are attracted to each other and collide, where Electromagnetism cancels itself out when opposite charges collide. The weak force and strong force only really have an effect at the atomic level, where gravity has little effect due to the negligible mass. That's what physicists mean when they say that one is stronger than the other.
@@monikabobb5552 then riddle me this. why can a magnet overcome gravity? isnt it because its stronger? (ik we on earth and gravity depends but still.)
@@monikabobb5552 The gravitational constant is significantly smaller than Coulomb’s constant. The strength of fundamental forces can be compared.
Cream manipulates a pocket of an alternate dimension. He's not "eating" space, he's scooping that space into a separate reality. I'd argue that limitless does not stop a ball of separate dimension.
actually i don't think cream void ball is getting through infinity, since the change with the space like the void suddenly appearing in that finite space, then is treated as a threat as will infinity divide the space MAKING it infinity small and stop/ stuck the void portal in between the infinity as it did not exist. i mean cream can theoretically bypass a single layer of infinity through other dimensions and just appear inside of Gojo's body, but i am sure that Gojo can react fast enough to cover his whole body with infinity making void portal stop expanding staying at a infinity small scale
@@Ari_8775cream is invisible and in another dimension
Purple was never shown deleting characters who got hit by it also if it delete stuff hanami should never be able to block it💀 also anyone stronger than sukuna outside jjk verse can easily deal with purple since even sukuna didn't get delete by it, cream has way more feats than purple no contest, also toji should've turn in to ash if delete stuff
Hanami doesn't block it, he run away by getting under the ground . He sense it and just run away, purple literally erase anything
Toji literally has a massive hole in him when it gets used on him
@@muckyesyesindisguise3854 exactly
. It is like cream
The only reason the small amount of characters from jjk can even block it is cus they have curse energy. If someone doesn’t have curse energy reinforcement or CE in general they have “no” defense against it.
@@jonathanrutherford7671
SPOIL ALERT
The only one who have "block"it is sukuna, at the beginning of their fight. Further Sukuna take 2 purple but survive
The gojo d riding is crazy
Fr lol
yea we just need our boy behniom rap city
@@Kingofthepirates-ix4we true, Bohemian Rapsody is crazy
Bro did you see the jotaro meat riding
It's not d riding he's giving an equal argument and gojjo was hardly glazed
Gojo watching a pink refrigerator (tusk act 4) crack open his infinity like a can of soda while it screams "CHUMIMIN!"
Tusk Act 4 Would just straight up Murder Gojo, we don't even need to talk about it, I also wished "META" explained tusk act 4 with more Detail as it's much more than just breaking a "barrier" Tusk Act 4 is LITERALLY Bypassing & Ripping apart a whole ass Dimension just to reach funny valentine, Tusk does not care & it doesn't matter what dimension he hops to Tusk will simply bypass all of it & catch him. Hitting funny valentine directly is actually Insane if u think about it.
this, speak some sense man!, stop sleeping on johnny and no he doesnt need the horse, he can delete you sitting right on his paraplegic backside lol
@@da_001he very much needs his horse to use the infinite rotation, sure he can still use Tusk as a normal stand but to use Tusk's ability he needs the infinite rotation which can only be done with a horse.
yeah no, the conditions required for an infinite rotation are absurd and johnny is not getting that off before gojo blasts him with a hollow purple or uses a domain or something else
did u read part 7? johnny literally got duped by diego and got hit himself with the infinite rotation and stephen steel got him a horse and johnny was able to reverse it and its stated multiple times that it uses the horses power
@@Reimoon-fq9qm Come on man, Diego had plot armor and prep time, Johnny should've won when he shot Diego from the sewers.
I would say that vanilla ice and cream are like if hollow purple and kamui had a child
VANILLA ICE CREAM?
I would say it like purple being a diet version of Cream’s ball. Cause Cream’s ball straight up erases things. While purple just does a lot of damage and appears to erase things.
Yea cus cream is literally nothingness it's not even a black hole because you can at least see a black hole because it destroys light hence absence if light is darkness but cream in it's complete state can't even be seen cus it's nothing and you cant see nothing.
18:48 "Gravity is a form of magnetism. It's like a super version of it"
I'm speechless.
Me too 😂
I aint gonna lie Risotto could and would most likely demolish Gojo unless Gojo goes batshit
Like, sure, there's RCT, but something he does not have is epitaph which is the main reason Doppio even had a slight chance against Risotto.
RCT can't heal metal knives still in your body. If he just creates knives in his head, gojo can heal his brain, but there is still a knive in your brain..... Risotto could 100% kill Gojo just instantly razor blades in heart or in the brain.
I’d say I would disagree. Gojo the first time he met one of the cursed users at the goodwill tournament. Completely blew off his arms and legs without any hesitation. With only a couple of seconds of seeing him
@@YaniraGomez-m4h Risotto needs less than a few seconds to reverse pinhead him, a trained assassin would probably know to target the head, which also happens to be exactly where gojo's ct comes from.
@@SnailSnail-lo4pmactually yes, if rissoto knows who he's up against he already knows how he's gonna kill them before he meets them
Time stop could get through infinity because it divides space at a rate. If you remove time Infintity is no longer infinite because the rate is removed, then he'd just clock him in the head
I like how immediately you get Green Day wrong lmao.
Green Day, while yes, spreads its spores effectively when its user is above its target, actually functions off of the victim's own altitude. If someone affected by the spores moves DOWN they will immediately deteriorate them based on how much and how long they move. Which of course becomes unstoppable once you fall down.
You can actually avoid any and all damage from it by just not moving, and of course this is complimented by Secco's ability to turn the floor into a liquid. So again, by sinking, they decompose instantly, which is why it was so incredibly scary as a package deal.
I thought the same thing and I still think go to beat him because he can teleport and fly, but he never even explains why it just wouldn’t affect Gojo. Why does he think that?
99% of the stands wont be able to touch him BUT for the dozen that does... Gojo is screwed, negative diff even. Gojo goes very high on the list BUT he hardstops at the Hand, and cannot go HIGHER than that. ANY stand scaling the Hand would solo JJK no problems assuming the Mach 3 stuff still holds true.
Even without the mach 3 statement Gojo would still be hypersonic+ because of how many anti feats there are
Massively hypersonic to relativistic, not subsonic. Wouldn't matter, either way. JoJo's is light speed to massively faster than light. Gojo is dying.
@@sladelius6174 Subsonic to relativistic for Gojo. Too many anti feats and they have like 2-3 feats for mhs or above. Around hypersonic+ if we are talking about consistency
The problem is gojo absolutely annihilating them before they can do that
@@blacknight1641 Quite the opposite. Most stands literally blitz Gojo. Gojo wins in terms of AP/Durability but speed isnt even close
So, how Infinity is shown in the Inventory arc is that Gojo's brain has to do equations to calc anything coming at him, if you stop time he cannot make this equation work, meaning he cannot block anything his brain cannot calc.
THIS THIS THIS!!!
It's actually the other way around. Infinity is always active and he calculates what is harmless and then allows it through. Infinity is even active while he's sleeping.
Which is why his students had to ask to touch him. He didn't consciously judge them as a threat that he needs to stop with infinity, it's just something that happens automatically.
@@JohnSmith-j7n It's explained in the Hidden Inventory arc, look up a video that shows the scene. His brain doesn't consciously have to do the calculations, Gojo also cannot affect anything smaller than atomic particles, that's why he can't affect air or light. Gojo says himself that his brain does equations based on speed and mass to use infinity, I'm not saying that anyone can outspeed his calculation time, I'm saying if his brain cannot process anything, it cannot use infinity.
@@JohnSmith-j7n I'm actually confused by this, when does it ever say it calculates what isn't harmful? How would it know to distinct things that ARE harmful then? What part of the manga says this?
@@ElysiumFields306 I read the physical copy of the manga in Japanese. I don't need to look up scenes.
Also his infinity can block atomic and subatomic particles since the heat of Jogo's domain couldn't touch him.
18:46 like you said it has range, thus is subject to the infinite distance
So he wouldn't even be able to control metal within gojo lol.
Gravity actually might not work on gojo since he does fly like you mentioned
One important thing is gojo does have to fuel limitless with cursed energy. He’s able to generate basically infinite but that’s not instaneous. If he gets hit by something so hard that it uses up enough energy to fuel limitless at a single moment he should just get cooked. It’s hard to say what that point is but jotaro is certainly close to that with speed
six eyes optimizes his ce to the point where its said to be infinite, i dont think its like that obv but i also dont think that anyone is really gonna damage gojo or have a drawn out battle to the point where he runs out of ce to put into limitless
CREAM DOESN'T TRAVEL AT THE SPEED PF LIGHT, POLNAREF WOULD BE DEAD
Yeah lol
It's almost like... He can react to light speed?
Both characters are massively faster than light, this isnt a contradiction. Silver Chariout is shown multiple times outspeeding light casually in the sun fight and hanged man fight, and implied for fighting king crimson
@@crowgentleman8008 He can’t MOVE faster though. He is shown to easily react to cream near the end when he stabs vanilla ice in the mouth, however he is never shown to MOVE faster.
Attacks and react? Yes. Move with his human legs? No. He gets in a car to chase someone in a fight where he also does one of his most solid light speed feats.
He cannot physically move his body to dodge light speed attacks but he can easily block/react to them.
@@franksarria9693not to mention silver chariot has got some of the crispiest after image clones.
28:29 A massive misconception about hollow purple is that just because it is an imaginary thing that doesn't exist, it destroys/erases things from existence which is wrong it was never stated to do that what it was said to a combination of red and blue how hollow purple works is that it does a combination of both blue and repeatedly ripping it apart basically on a sub-atomic level making it looks as if whatever it hit got erased however shown by sukuna in the gojo vs sukuna fight or when yuta directly hit sukuna with a hollow purple with a lowered guard he tanked the direct hit of a hollow purple which shows if you have enough dura you can tank a hollow purple or if you have a strong enough defensive ability.
Cream is hilariously actually the best counter, he removes himself from the dimensional plane and erases everything in its path.
Still loses though
@@Wezlii530 Inaccurate. Cream removes itself from the world itself and dimension, therefore Infinity cannot filter it out since it does not exist, being how it turns into that ball of void to begin with.
@@akamegaeditsand if it doesn’t exist it would also be able to take out Wonder of U?
@@artistturtle1425 Yes, as long as Vanilla Ice doesn’t peak out, then Wonder of U does not notice Cream, and Vanilla Ice bolts toward Tooru to kill him.
@@akamegaedits how would cream hit gojo of all people, he doesn’t need infinity to avoid a clumsy idiot like vanilla ice
Great video!
Gravity is not "like a super form of magnetism.' They are both forces, but that is the end of their similarities.
The specifics of gravity change based on which model of physics you use, but in general gravity is a property of objects with mass. One in which mass bends space resulting in objects 'falling towards eachother.
This is essentially what Gojo's ability is in practice. He can create that 'hole' or 'bend' in space. This forces objects in the immediate area to 'fill' that space.
Magnetism is a result of the Elctro-magnetic force. Electricity and magnetism are two different sides of the same coin. Much like a coin you cannot have one side without the other. This force occurs anytime a charged particle moves.
Implying that the power of magnetism is the power to direct the flow of charges. Most likely the reason it would have to be a metallic object is because those objects have strong conductive properties. Technically though you should be able to use this power to change the chemical composition of any object. As chemical reactions are simply electrons moving from one molecule to another.
End analysis: Magnetism should work through limitless, it is a force.
Although aren't electromagnetic forces diminished over distance similarly to gravity?
Nah dont let META cook ever again
Yeah META is pissing me off
1.Six eyes doesn’t just make gojo omniscient, it allows him to see cursed energy at a atomic level allowing him to see the flow of cursed energy and figure out how cursed techniques work stands don’t fall under that
2.without that horse Johnny gon die
3. Rissoto would kill gojo for one reason, gojo is waay to cocky and he would let him get in range. Then he gets a nail in his brain, RCT can’t save him from that.
4. Cream enters another dimension so Gojo won’t be able to see it. And cream Dosent go at the speed of light if so no one would have gotten past him. You can say gojo might be able to “see” the air getting sucked up by cream but if not cream will kill gojo. Cream > hollow purple, say it with me now hollow purple doesn’t delete stuff it pulls and pushes things at atomic level which breaks it apart to basic particles. But everyone not named Sukuna ain’t got the defense to tank that
5. Time stop I doubt cant breach infinity. We all know star platinum is deff more than strong enough to punch a hole through everyone in jjk easily, no god damn shot anyone can even dodge it if you told them 5 years ago. But to be fair DIO couldn’t touch Joseph due to hamon be in active even tho time was stopped so that does give gojo a good chance at not getting hit cuz of infinity. Oh and jotaro cannot punch faster than time he just punches really really fast that Kira said it was like he stopped time. tha
Vanilla ice can’t see with cream. I’d argue six-eyes could see the space removed by cream but even without that vanilla ice has to come out eventually to peek at which point he gets domed by someone with 360 degree awareness. Gojo can fly as well which makes narrowing in on a target while blind almost impossible as there’s a whole other axis to consider. Polnareff won by just getting to the ceiling. People are gassing vanilla ice up way too hard for someone who got killed by a polnareff that couldn’t walk and a dog.
5 is just wrong. infinity is making infinite distance between objects and it needs time. since time stopped, why would there be infinity?
I disagree with 3. Gojo managed to heal a knife in his brain with RCT. From what other characters say you would need to destroy a large part of the brain (or separate the brain from the stomach) and I don't think Risotto has the capacity to do that, especially since Gojo can heal wounds as they form to a degree that he can tank Malevolent Shrine
@@CoolGutrun that’s fair
@@parinlebogs1618 you need to breath to use hamon, if time is stopped how did Joseph use hamon? Fire needs air to burn how did jotaro start a fire in time stop? The fact is abilities, attributes of things would still be active in time stop, for an example, if stops time that doesn’t mean gravity doesn’t work on him. So why wouldn’t infinity still work?
Yuji and megumi vs all of hunter x hunter. They are in the positions of Gon and Killua.
they die
@@majinIP nah gon and killua are the only strong ones in HxH. they can mop the floors with the rest of the HxH cast since theres no gon and killua here
@@ajojofann they are considered mid tiers?
@@ajojofann my brother in Christ Hisoka445 would grind killua and gon into a fine red mist
@@ajojofann did u even watch HxH? most braindead take ever
For the so called jojo expert you sure explained gojo's abilities in more detail than the characters you are supposed to be an expert on.
Simplifying tusk act 4 as a simple barrier breaker when in reality he is an unstopable force that will chase you infinetly and chase you through infinite dimensions. I love gojo but the meat riding on this one is crazy.
I mean explaining that much extra information wouldnt be necessary in such a comparison, but he could have explained it simply by saying that it's similar to Toji's knife so yea he is not doing a good job
Kinda sad that green green grass of home wasn’t even on the wheel. That would have been an interesting discussion on account of its ability being based on the same mathematical concept that infinity is.
Damn metas…expected you to hold it down for jojo a lil better. Glazing that boy gojo like craaaazy. The fact that you were convinced gojo comes close to cream is insane. Kinda feels gojo is becoming the next goku..maybe that’s just me.
cream is honestly a horrible matchup gojo creampies him
@@Wezlii530Fake ass
Small correction. Green day doesn't make anyone lower than you die. It makes it so if you descend the mold grows on you.
Yeah, no. Its the change is altitude, its not just if someone goes higher or lower compared to the stand
There's a scene in the show where the dude was in a helicoptor, he kept going up and the people in their houses just started falling over and dying almost immediately
I think chocolata actually could kill gojo, because he wasn’t immune to the pollen based attack from hanami.
I think spores are of a similar magnitude and if they start consuming lifeforms at a cellular level then that would be durability negation.
I don't think he wins but i think he is more of a threat than most people give him especially if he just hides somewhere near and populated.
THIS
If the heat from Jogo's domain couldn't pass through infinity then I seriously doubt some spores could lol
Infinity works at an atomic level, heat from fire and lava produced by Jogo couldn't get through so its kinda eh.
So two things with the Jotaro section:
1. I think the argument of Time Stop being immeasurable speed is stupid. The only argument in series for it is Kira saying Jotaro moves so fast it's like time itself has stopped which we know that's just Jotaro moving that fast, not his ability activated. This point of immeasurable speed completely contradicts what the part 6 stand stats, what DIO says about it in part 3 and what Other Universe Dio in part 7 says about the ability.
Basically, time is stopped universally and in this stopped time, only the user of the ability can move, perceive and essentially do anything in stopped time. Stopped time also has different universal laws than that of our own universe and (this is SPECIFICALLY stated) time DOES NOT move the same in the "time stop universe". The time specifics on how long DIO, part 7 Dio, Jotaro can "activate" or move in the time stop universe is just for us to understand a rough equivalent cause time doesn't flow the same in that time stop universe
Side note: This is why in a King Crimson vs. The World debate, The World's abilities are greater cause the world of time stop is different from the normal world that King Crimson resides in. Only way to defeat it is to "invade time stop", speed up time stop (by infinitely speeding up the universe), return any action to zero, reflect any damage done by the time stop user, calamity or have infinite rotation especially one that can't be seen. a.k.a. have The World (Star Platinum), Tusk Act 4, Made in Heaven, Soft & Wet Go Beyond, GER, Wonder of U, D4C Love Train.
2. Now THIS is the reason why Jotaro, DIO, part 7 Dio can beat Gojo. Cause in the time stop universe, Gojo, even with his abilities active, can't do anything and wouldn't be capable of invading time stop. Of course it depends on how Jotaro and DIO utilize the time stop dimension. If DIO starts to throw knives and plays with Gojo, Gojo is blocking all of that and unlimited void hits it's over (wonder if it would work on Kars by the way lol). Otherwise if they "Kakyoin" Gojo, or decides to cut his head like DIO was about to do to Jotaro then he Gojo probably loses
Can you tell me where you get the TS statements from cause I wanna read them
I agree with 2, Jotaro probably beats Gojo easier than Dio cos he’s not so cocky. A side note for your first point: the translation of the part 6 guide book says something like “star platinum allows Jotaro to surpass the speed of light and stop time, which implies (to some people) that the speed is what forces time to stop. I don’t personally believe that but it’s not just the Kira feat that supports it. Btw this page appears in the video at 32:37
I'd also like to add in that the highballing was a bit unfair. They bumped Jo to Island from one outlier, but ignored Yuki's black hole feet, something a weaker character not only stood within, but Gege narrated (gege) said was a black hole.
Gege does what Araki does, he tells us abilities.
If we can use Araki, then why not Gege? Withstanding a black hole is an insane feat No matter how hard you cut it.
JJBA is the series with the most inconsistent scaling and asspull bullshits I have ever witnessed in anime.
@@Infinite8blue Sukuna is sweating rn
“Hmph, Looks like none of the stands can beat my infini-“
“CHU MI MIN!”
Nah I bet Risotto could shape a mini saw in gojo's brain and spin it
You spin me right round baby right round
Same Way gojo can insta blue his ass.
@@breno5029 problem is that Gojo is so cocky he actually could let Risotto come close enough of him to chainsaw his brain out
14:28 After that arc, he actually stopped sleeping entirely.
Oh yeah! I forgot about that. He doesn't need to sleep anymore. Jesus imagine a life where you didn't have to sleep it would be so productive and twice as long.
21:05 to be fair, wasnt Rissoto still interrogating Doppio? He IS an assassin, so assumedly he woudlnt be doing all these drawn out measures on an opponent he dosent really want information from.
14:20-infinity is not auto on as he has to be awake to hold it on.thats why when transporting the girl with geto in s2 , geto remarks that gojo has not slept as he kept his technique on
Right after the Toji fight it’s shown that he started training his Infinity to automatically block things that are considered a threat, and since Gojo unlocked RCT he can just heal the fatigue.
He still loses but y’know
Wait have you not finished all of jjk bro it’s actually auto now lol like it’s been auto since as stated after the moment your speaking of and he fights toji he awakens then beats him then trains and he then gets older and his infinity becomes automatic by the time we see him in season 1
@@muckyesyesindisguise3854 yh but for him to activate infinity he gotta be awake. The random object training makes it so that he doesn't have to focus on it as much but he still gotta be awake
Ay man all im saying is none of bro’s students touched him while he was asleep so..
Also Gojo would still have cursed energy and the six eyes and we know for a fact that his hands are leagues better than death 13. Reality warping in the dream or not that baby is getting blitzed in their own world.
Isn't the problem with Cream being he is technically blind. Can't Gojo literally just fly away. Like his advantage against grounded opponents is that he will eventually reach you, but Gojo isn't just a grounded opponent. The blindness with Cream is a huge disadvantage since it's very easy for Gojo to just get out of the way especially with Six Eyes.
I mean besides the fact that Vanilla can also fly, he seems so used to his ability that the blindness becomes less of an issue
Also Cream is entirely invisible while using his ability, the only argument against this would be the six eyes but he can't see into a point of space entirely seperate from our own
@@arkkon2740 That's not the case though, because Polnareff took advantage of the fact that Cream didn't know where he was to defeat him.
@@ignotuscapillary8313 Polnareff used Vanilla's rage to beat him, Iggy only took advantage of his blindness to juke him out which basically blinded him with rage. He took the dio thing as such an insult that he basically threw the 2v1
Polnareff recovered and beat his ass and every time after this that he tried to use cream, Polnareff just stabbed him and pulled him out
@@arkkon2740 Even if he can't see the space directly he should at least be able to see the space around being bent. This isn't like world ending cleave which just appears there. This actually travels. (I would also argue not FTL since there would be no need to circle your opponent if that were the case. Just go in a straight line)
Yeah he can fly also, but the thing is being blind he wouldn't know when Gojo flies.
@@BocchiTheBox Cream doesn't bend space, the only reason they saw him was because of all the dust and sand that was being destroyed, but if you're in the air with no dust or smoke then he's effectively invisible
Also Ice can peek out of cream whenever and the void bubble is still technically there, if not for a limited time afterwards
The whole thing with cream though is that everything in its range just gets annihilated, and there are three arguments you can go with
1. He erases the space around him, thus he can eat infinity
2. Since he's in a pocket dimension, infinity can't push him because he does not exist in that section of space
3. Infinity blocks him regardless, but that also means infinity has to block both cream AND the void bubble, which might not work since its intangible and maybe even mass-less
7:02 i want to say that d4c love train sends all punches to an alternate universe where your punches or nail shots can lead to your alternate self
If gojo can't beat Jotaro because of his speed, imagine Pucci 😭
Do I have to make you remember that a Stand can only be kill by another Stand?
In other words, Gojo can't see Stands, and he can't hurt them. If he launch a Hollow Purple on an Stand, the attack will just do nothing. Because he's not a Stand user, he can't see them, he can't kill them, he can't even know that they are here.
Imagine if the Stand "Lover" go into Gojo, and if Gojo do a Hollow Purple in the Stand master... Funniest thing in the world.
Are you not familiar with verse equalisation? obviously stuff like that gets disregarded for the sake of the discussion
The only thing that sucks with equalization is because things that cancel techniques or magics like Asta’s anti magic weapons you have to scale them somehow
Thats like saying hanatoro from bleach can beat goku since he is a ghost and cant be interacted with but he can interact with goku
How did Jotaro killed the man with stand that can make ppl younger? Jotaro literally punched that man to death without stand
everyone is gangster untill tusk opens infinity like a orange💀💀
I love jojo scaling because you have stuff like Green Day which is pretty easy to scale, but then there’s like wonder of u
The hardest thing to scale about Green Day (only in the sense of Green Day vs Gojo) is does the infinite distance that Gojo creates mean Green Day is that far away therefore making Gojo disappear faster than my father
Manifesting a part 2 just so you can discuss The Hand and how it just wallops Gojo
What would the hand do? It would be just like any other stand vs gojo and lose lol
@@Wezlii530 So unlike the stands here, the Hand unironically bypasses and unmakes space, which would make it ignore Infinity and reach Gojo. I think the caveat is you have to be kinda close to the target to get it to work.
@@venandisicarius Also, the stand user is an absolute idiot
@@venandisicariusthe hand massively outspeeds Gojo getting close ain’t gonna be a problem
@@Wezlii530 the hand erases space and infinity is infinite space so if he just erased at gojo it would erase the space and gojo at the same time
1:06 that's not how the stand works, it's your altitude relative to the point you were infected from iirc. That's why secco worked so well with him and also why the gang didn't immediately die upon being infected.
Would limitless even affect stands? They’re not made out of atoms or cursed energy unless there’s something i’m missing.
CTs in general would probably only work on stands with physical forms that can be seen and interacted with by anyone. Gojo is kinda at a huge disadvantage if ce cant interact with stands at all though yeah.
It would, they become tangible at the moment they do it would work against them, do you think cleave or dismantle have mass they are invisible slashes
Yes, because if D4C can stop them with a lesser form of infinity then the real thing could too.
They are physical most of the time because that makes them stronger but stands can go through wall and shit but they become weaker.
I still think they can kill gojo tho
The only issue I see with Tusk is that Diego showed us you can also prevent the infinite spin by severing the part that got hit by it before it travels. Gojo could do that, heal with Reverse Cursed Technique, then be good to go.
The only issue with *that* is the fact that Diego knew because Valentine told him. He had a bunch of prep and insider information that you would almost never have, even if he could do that, how would he even *know* to do that?
If he gets hit on a lim that is. . .
If he gets a chest shot or a head shot Gojo is screwed
He doesn't have that prep and he could still snipe him with 2 and 3 finish him there
@@andrewbell6561Johnny isn't informed either. Assuming domains work, he pops a domain, and that's it.
@@UnifiedEntity In character, I don't think he'd try it in fact I'd think he'd dick around and give Johnny the win.
The problem with gojo Vs green day is that gojo has his infinity active, so chocolata no diffs him bcs if he is above gojo, he would be infinity up gojo and he will just corrode instantly. No matter how good his reaction is he would die if chocolata above him and he has his infinity active, which is true.
Tusk would open Infinity like a bag of Lays
Interesting comparasions, but there are a few problems(like with any I've seen)
1. When we get to light speeds considering physics in any meaningful sense is pointless
2. When we consider infinities, inf/inf, inf-inf, 0*inf and 0/0 are undefined, unless we consider stuff like limits for sequences it's impossible to compare them in any way
3. Gojo's power is supposed to divide space, not slow down movement, it's the visible effect, but not the ability itself, and he can control if he divides space for each specific object as long as he can distinguish it.
So any attack unless it can travel through the whole universe, it won't be able to touch Gojo if we talk about typical physical attacks. Vanilla or The Hand I think work on removing space and things occupying that space, so they should be able to reach Gojo, but Jotaro for example won't
We can compare infinities, love train has an infinite amount of dimensions, each dimension is infinity, and gojo is just infinity, X^2 is larger than x when it comes to infinity.We can use limits as you said
Jotaro stomps Gojo
Infinity only manipulates space and slows down everything that wants to touch it, but that doesn't work if there is NO time to slow down lmao
Time Stop >>>>>>>> Infinity
@@mabFullMoonlight speed does not cover the breadth of the universe in 5 seconds. I love jotaro but he simply can’t hit gojo.
@@CoolGutrun Learn the skills of who you are trying to defend lmao, there is no "universe" of space between Gojo and his barrier, the only thing infinite is the slowdown
Time Stop ( true universal hax) >>>> Infinity
Cream removes himself from this dimension, and therefore cannot be pushed back by infinity and it devours whatever it passes through even it if is around it.
26:56 I’m not entirely educated on JJK manga, but using the clip shown here of Gojo, it can be assumed that infinity isn’t just “slowing down” the objects, this is also talked over at Death Battle with Gojo vs Makima, where it’s more of an infinite distance between the object and himself, so Tusk, (and maybe even Cream and any others) shouldn’t be able to hit Gojo, due to infinity.
Gojo gets speed blitzed by every opponent on the weel
I like Kaleb IA’s interpretation and even the guy who did the gojo JJBA gauntlet vid that because of Miguel’s space time manipulation description of Gojo’s ability or even him needing to perceive the attack with or without the six eyes to filter it out is a weakness of infinity and that since the ability to infinitely slow someone down takes time, stopping time should stop that ability but I digress
(10:20) a small correction, as a jojo nerd myself, all i can say that is, yes, he needs to concetrate quite alot of energy to shoot the nail to end gojo, but it does not need the specific conditions, that is something that alot of jojo fans get wrong, and dont hate on me, im just saying that he would with a 95% beat gojo
No Operator & METAs collab is actually crazy im a big fan of these 2 people and the anime they mostly cover (JJBA & JJK)
Everyone forgets that Johnny needs a whole ass horse to activate the act 4 bullet.
Fucker definitely activated it without the horse in the end
Isn't he in a horse like... all the time because he can't walk by his own?
@@crocky6996 that’s what I’m saying!
@@AscendedVessel he can walk at the end of the part, he can walk and he’s act 1-3, but to use act 4 he needs the stirrups of a horse and then that horse needs to run at the golden ratio
@@voidwalker241 yeah
But like he used act 4 to take the stone virus for himself so it’s contradictory
23:40 everything the sphere touches is GONE. The WCS cut the space Gojo was in. CREAM is completely erasing the space of infinity and Gojo.
tusk act 3's bullets are like miniature black holes. That alone is enough to bypass gojo's infinity
Bro stop glazing that shit isn't a black hole. It doesn't have nearly the same amount of power and if that were the case it would bypass d4cs space time barrier and ta4 wouldn't exist.
@@the_honey_bagel199 I suggest u do ur own research before u start sounding stupid
@@R_ayse you just said ta3s bullets are mini black holes when they act more like a vortex since you have to touch them you're the one who sounds stupid.
@@R_ayse AND Johnny can't just place them on gojo because of gojos speed
The bullets can be outran by a normal human.
@@the_honey_bagel199 You clearly don't know a thing about jojo. One thing you should take note of is that every single joestar has insanely high IQ. Johnny will hit the bullet one way or another
So it's worth noting that D4C: Love Train is a barrier made up of the spaces between infinite alternative dimensions. And since it's triggered by Ticket To Ride it is also a total Misfortune Redirection, which for people who don't know JoJo's is some looney tunes level of "No U" as if you try to hit someone with this with a hammer, the hammer head will snap off, fly into the air, and land on your head with an equivalent level of force. A bullet will magically bounce back and leave a hole in your chest, etc.
isn't the misfortune redirected randomly? But yeah Love train is straight up just an upgraded gojo's infinity by itself
@@RG-bv7ec Randomly doesn't actually exist in JoJo's. It's all tied to the karmic system of Fate and Calamity. But yes, it's seemingly random, but still some looney tunes shit occurring to someone
Gojo’s gonna be traumatized after he watches Tusk Act 4 ripping infinity apart like a soda can.
Gojo will find the friends he made along the way
Death Battle frame in the thumbnail. Based.
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed
DB team did absolute zero sense in their battle with Gojo
Gojo be gangster till he uses hollow purple on super fly and suddenly has a hole through his abdomen
Risotto without any chill wins.
Would be interesting to consider if Reverse Cursed Technique fixes y'know, your lack of nutrients and stuff, assuming Gojo ain't gonna immediately Hollow Purple Risotto and Reverse Cursed Tech doesn't add in missing iron, he can probably leave Gojo on his deathbed or close if the battle goes on long enough, and if Rev. Cursed Tech does add in missing iron and such from the blood, Risotto could eventually gather enough iron to do some real cool shit like a sword.
Edit: Thread is fun, give it a read.
Bloodlusted Gojo > Bloodlusted Risotto
You make an interesting point with RCT potentially fixing missing nutrients. I mean, it creates new, working blood in a limb if you are creating a new limb so it's possible Gojo can create new blood with RCT. I wonder if Gojo could chop off his arm, RCT a new one and just eat the new one to regain his iron
RCT regenerates blood at the VERY least and given how Gojo will definitely start loosing his iron deprived blood he will be able to regenerate new healthy blood.
Bloodlusted Risotto attacks his brain and Gojo loses pretty badly
If both go for the kill, it's just a matter of who strikes first.
Shoko confirmed in a recent chatper that RCT users transform CE into blood. So Gojo on isntinct would be recovering back any blood lost during an injury making it very unlikely that the iron deficiency comes into play.
If Risotto does not go for a quick kill, Gojo can just levitate above 6 meters and Metallica becomes useless
Its shown in the end of part 7 that johnny can use act 4 w/o a horse
0:22 foreshadowing lol
I asked this question somewhere, but can Reverse Cursed Technique nullify the abilities of Metallica, Green Day, Purple Haze, White Album, Grateful Death, or maybe even Cream?
Rct wouldn’t work against purple haze since you can’t heal poisons
@@tylerjustyler
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Purple Haze releases a deadly virus? It's been a while since I watched part 5
@@kodoqbesar4301 Yes he does.
RCT creates new flesh so it can be helpful for repairing otherwise irreparable damage. RCT can also heal poisons but we don’t know if Current Gojo can do it, just that he couldn’t do it in hidden inventory. It should be able to heal from the frostbite of White Album and maybe even the damage from the mould but not necessarily the mould itself. As for Cream, he should be able to heal any damage dealt to him, until Cream either gets the head or the lower torso which will stop his RCT or cursed energy as a whole respectively.
@@jamestamsitt5806that being said, a good chunk of these stands will likely reinfect or just inflict whatever ability they have onto him again
I doubt Gojo would just shake off Purple Haze's virus as it eats away at you as well as spread from other organisms, as a matter of fact, PH punched a wall and it somehow knocked birds out of the sky, that's how long this lasts in broad daylight
and depending on the circumstances it would be more deadly because sunlight kills it faster and it was STILL super dangerous
I think an argument can still be made about Star Platinum hitting Gojo in time stop without the ridiculous speed scaling.
Things done in time stop are instant, and since stopping time would be the ONLY THING IN THE UNIVERSE that is instantaneous, it would bypass infinity (since infinity is an infinite distance, but only to things moving towards gojo) and Jotaro would cave in Gojos head.
TLDR: Infinity works by slowing how fast things approach gojo exponentially, but Time Stop eradicates the speed formula by being instantaneous Jotaro would be able to demolish Gojo in stopped time.
Infinity doesn't slow things down though. Things just appear to slow down to the human eye. In reality, since Jotaro still has a fixed speed IN stopped time and has to move from point A to point B in stopped time, infinity would still work. How far can he travel in those few seconds that time is stopped? Can he move to the other end of the universe in an instant just because time is stopped? Even if he could, that'd still be too slow to bypass infinity.
@@JohnSmith-j7n
Infinity is dividing space sure, but it's doing that via decimal points not via adding more space.
Basically it turns a distance from 1 inch into 1.0000000000000000000000000000001 inch. Till an object clears those infinite decimal points it can't reach Gojo....
But in stopped time, thats still just 1 inch. The distance isnt actively dividing so it's not infinite hence the extra space doesn't exist.
@@jasonfurumetarualkemisto5917 Why wouldn't it be dividing space? Infinity is always active even while Gojo is sleeping. He also kept it on in the prison realm where time doesn't flow.
Hamon by jojo rules can work and flow even in stopped time so I don't see why cursed energy couldn't.
@@JohnSmith-j7nother stands don't, clearly Hamon is a special case, cursed energy can't suddenly have hamons specific hax when even stands can't move in time stop
@@theredandblueyakuza Stands can't move in stopped time but they're still manifested in stopped time as they don't just disappear the moment time is stopped meaning infinity would be manifested as well.
PLEASE do mahoraga vs Kars, me and my bro were discussing this for AGES and since we don't know a thing about power scaling, we didn't know who would win
"He didn't" 😂😂😂