Hey Drew! I don't think I really agree with "Oversaturation" being a cause/related to a sneaker's ability to become a "Classic". Many of the sneakers that are considered "classics" i.e. Air Force 1s, Jordans, Chuck Taylors, Stan Smiths, Shell toes, etc. are mass produced and widely available but still are able to retain that "classic" position within pop culture. In my opinion, what allows a model to become a classic is the versatility of the silhouette and its longevity of relevance within pop culture. Can it be easily adapted to various styles? Can it be worn for a variety of activities? Is it sold at an affordable price to reach mass consumers? And will it outlast the trend period it was born into to remain relevant in the sneaker space? I think what's stopping shoes like the dunk (vs. stan smiths, vans) or 550s (vs. the AF1, shell toes) from becoming classics is that they draw many characteristics (affordability, silhouette, price point) from pre-existing models that already exhibit those same characteristics AND are already established as "classics". But, in the end we won't really know if any of these models will become classics until we look back 10 or 20 years from now. Hard to say given how fast mass consumer taste/trends move these days.
I would say that the dunks and 550s are "trendy classics", as in they define a moment in the sneaker market and a general style but could be used past its peak without it looking out of place
I think it's really weird that we're talking about 550s as if they're "new" when they're just revived from 1989. They're already a sort of classic in that way, it's not easy to pull a shoe from 30 years ago out again and make it hot. I'd say shelltoes and sambas are classics too, and they're not "popular" anymore.
the difference is the NB were never as popular as they are now vs AJ1, AF1, dunks, cons, vans have all had repeated peaks in popularity. so in terms of being. "new" its "new" to pop culture
considering the 550 only really started gaining the traction it did after the ALD collabs, it really is just an overhyped shoe. I love newbalance, they're comfortable and I always feel like I'm getting my moneys worth, and the 550 has such great color blocking potential, but it went from sitting In warehouses to $300 asking prices on ebay so fast that I really think the hype is what drove the sales rather than the love for the silhouette.
@@xXcangjieXx I mean that it wasn't an immensely popular shoe when it came out, it fell into obscurity. The 550 wasn't like your standard Chuck Taylor that basically everyone from rockers to dads wore. How many people have you seen talking about the newbalance 550 before they brought it back in the same way that someone would another shoe that's been relevant for ages? I'm almost certain that if they brought back the newbalance 550 as just a standard release, it wouldn't have gained as much hype. I think the only reason we saw even general release 550's like the UNC blue or the Black and White "oreo" colorway sold out by bots in minutes and were being immedietly resold on ebay (trust me, I was there for every drop) Is BECAUSE of the ALD collabs. Everyone wanted a pair of 550's because they were the hot new shoe, not because they actually wanted 550's Also, i love newbalance shoes, i own about 7 pairs of different colors and variants, they've been the main shoe that suits my weird ass wide foot and the one shoe where it feels like I'm paying the 3 digit price tag and it almost entirely goes into the quality of the shoe.
@@Rum0r nah. ALD def made it look good. Thats why ppl wanted it in the first place. If u were there when ALD rolled em out, the lookbook and capsule collection were awesome. Thats the point of fashion. To make it hot, otherwise u wont be "fashionable" however for it to be a classic, i think it depends. Todays trend is all about nostalgia. When the look shifts thats when we can see the staying power of the 550
You don’t have to get the ALD 😂 they actually been dropping GR that look similar to the collabs if you’re doing it for ALD and not the look you already lost 😞
I like how you mentioned how classics have an iconic color way. Makes me think of white on white AF1s, castle Gray 990s, Jordan 1 breda, and even Yeezy 700 waverunners. All silhouettes have iconic colors that deem them classics.
My parents always did triathlons and other sporty events when I was little, and they always had running shoes with big mesh and silver accents on them. Mostly new balances and ASICS, so I ended up getting a pair of gel kayano 14s about six months ago in honor of them. They were constantly shoes with those design cues, and wearing them takes me back to hot summer days and cheering at the finish line of a triathlon as a 6 year old in 2007.
I remember back in the early 2010's there was this Supra craze in Kenya. I think Lil Wayne really influenced it but it was insane. Everyone at least had a pair of Supras
6:40 basically wore reebok my entire childhood and the Classic Leathers in particular have a very nostalgic/wam place in my heart. The "1983 vintage" pack Reebok released this year were MUSTS for me and I was happy to be able to get them on heavy discount.
I believe the best colorway is the ALD because it matched the retro 90s vibe. New Balance should release white and a beige colorway for general release and make it a staple.
#pvv might be weird, but I’ve always looked up to my dad’s sneakers, which were mainly new balances. After I overcome his shoe size I bought my own pair which, with Aj1 lows have now become my go-to sneaker, the one I like and wear the most. Blazers as well always seemed wonderful to me.
Hi Drew, please do a part 2 for this video where you discuss the 12 sneakers shown at the beginning and your thoughts on is they're classics or not. Thanks.
i like to think if the 550 is done right it can easily become a classic . it's iconic look, with a good readily available colorway could make it a classic . but that's exactly what it's lacking i would say that could be the cream and black . don't have a pair but that pair is such a nice colorway. seeing it's path right now it will stay a trend shoe even though it has such a nice iconic look that has put it on the map of well known shoes.
I take it waaaay back to the Adidas Rod Laver. I usually keep a rotation of different colors, always with the original white/green, then pick up new colors variations every year for different options.
I'm not a sneakerhead my shoe collection consists mainly of "classics", dress shoes and loafers but without a doubt my all time fav sneakers are stan smiths, original with the green accent. My other sneakers are navy high top chuck Taylors, black with white swoosh Cortez, some Reeboks idk the name, red puma suede, blazers, and that's about it lol
I don't think oversaturation is the issue for the 550 I think it's the lack of a defining coloraway. If you think chucks you think black with white trim or white with the red/blue lines or black vans oldskools or white green trim stan smiths. All of those shoes have every color under the sun available but they're still classics because of the strong base shoes. Even from the ALD collab I find a hard time defining the "main" ALD 550 in my mind.
Bro all the shoes that drew showed at the beginning besides the ultra boots and element reacts are classic shoes that have historical significance maybe not the 350s but presto‘s in the early 2000s and huaraches do as well and all the others ofc
If anything I'd argue that the grey 574s with the white laces will end up being more iconic than the 550s. The 574s are a far more accessible shoe whereas the 550s aren't as readily available to the average buyer. Also in my opinion, the 574s have better colorways. I've seen pairs that are just normal navy, dark green, or even burgundy that offer a nice color that isn't overly gaudy like some of the 550s. Not to mention a pair of 574s are more affordable than the 550s; especially when you look at the resale market
honestly vans old skool should be considered a classic at this point. they were popular when I was in grade school in the late 2000s and they're still popular now. they're affordable, easy to get, and easy to style.
I think it’s important to differentiate between hype, classic, and iconic. Hype is hype. Here today, gone tomorrow. (Roshe, Ultraboost, and HOT TAKE: most collabs) Iconic is a shoe that is instantly recognizable, especially for an era. But they don’t always become classics. (Foamposites, 990 series, Yeezys) Classics are shoes that were cool when they were created and just as cool, if not more, now. A shoe that’s by in large timeless. (Jordan 1, 574, Stan Smiths, Chucks)
Evolving from cult to oversaturated has to be what makes something classic in the general publics eye. Back then everyone had the chucks, everyone had the dunks, everyone had the rockstars etc. The half life of trends is just extremely fast now. Big fan of the 550 because I never liked the dunks but I cant deny that past trends place in history. It's just a fun shoe.
The pair I really liked when I was young was the air max plus and air max bw. But my all time favorite pair of sneakers is from a designer brand, the Margiela replica sneakers (I wear a pair of replica almost every single day).
When I was about 9 or 10 years old, mine and my mom’s shoe size was the same so I used to borrow her Nike Cortez. She saw that I liked the so much that she gave them to me and I wore the hell out of those shoes. I even drew along the sole to make them my own. I really miss those shoes and definitely need to get another pair someday. Those will always be a classic for me. #pvv
I skated a lot when I was younger, so I naturally gravitated to exclusively skate brands due to their quality. They don’t get the hype they deserve, but Lakai Ltd. was my go to brand for a while.
Honestly, the new balance 550s started as a classic and have become so popular that it’s now a trend. Perhaps a renaissance in 10 years will make them a classic, but I think it’s less of an absolute and more liquid. Shoes can become both trends and classics and it always changes Like the reebok club c’s- they’re considered a classic as they haven’t (yet) hit the state where they are on everyone’s feet
As someone who's favorite sneaker brand is New Balance, 574 and some of the 99Xs are classics but imo the 550 and 650 are just trendy. Although, I might be bias because I don't like the 550 and 650 models at all.
its hard to say i feel like classics gain the title after many many years of being a staple. 550 yes is a “classic” model being an old silouette yet it has exploded very quickly rather than a slow gradual climb that most “classics” seem to have. only time will tell tho. cool video
IMO I dont think NB 550 has reached that level of saturation yet. At least in SD, CA where I am, compared to my friends, I am one of few people with multiple 550s. People are still having a hard time landing them. Now will they reach Classic Status? Im not sure, NB out here still doesn't have the same recognition as Nike, so it'll be tough.
classicness is incredibly abstract and unquantifiable and I don't think people should worry about it as much as whether they will love a recent cop for the next 5-10 years
I mean Jordan 1s are classics, yet they have a large amount of colorways/varients, so I don't think the 550s are necessarily fated to fade into irrelevancy, as a result of oversaturation. I think we must distinguish between "classic silhuettes" and "classic shoes". I would consider many Jordans as classic silhuettes, yet I would not put them in the same category as for example Chuck Taylors, which are most often associated with their one signature color-way.
idk if there are any “true” classics. they may transcend multiple eras but I don’t think it’s some crazy amount of time we all thought AJ1’s /J’s in general we’re classics but even the 1 hit that over saturation mark this year Sneakers will come back with the trends relevant imo. even like monarchs coming back after the wave runners albeit short lived, it was there.
Personally, the 550s are not for me so I can't really see them become classics. I feel like, compairing the 550s to other (imo) classics, the 550s have a little too much details or aren't simple/minimal enough.. although I'm not 100% sure about this take. For the #pvv, I grew up with airmaxes being the cool and populair shoes. Also Yeezy 350s have been populair. Everyone thought they were cool, and off course they are populair because of the comfort. For the past few years (mostly highschool) everyone has had a pair of AF1s, eventhough that had definitly happend all over the world.
#pvv When I was growing up I used to think the Jordan 3s were like the coolest sneaker to ever exist lol. I always saw Kid Cudi rocking them back in the late 2000s early 2010s and I wanted a pair so badly. I eventually grew to like the 4s more and always have a pair in my closet. They're super clean but offer a chunkier look to my normal everyday shoes. Growing up near Chicago I always remember wearing Chicago Bulls memorabilia as well, so I remember wanting a pair of Jordan 1 "Banned." I've still never snagged a pair because bred highs are always hype and the secondary market is crazy😂
I want to answer your post-vid question, but I have such non-classic taste in shoes. I prefer very colourful shoes so I always wanted the Jeremy Scott Adidas shoes, Id take any of them really but the teddy bear or the bone ones were always the ones Id beg for. They were just so playful in a way no other shoe collab was or really has been to this day. Tho nowadays the sacai x nike xjpg vaporwaffles (brown) are a total grail so my style has changed a bit 🤣
A classic sneaker is almost never one that is hyped. The only exception I can think of is any retro Jordan because of its monumental cultural legacy tied to actual historical events. But the AF1, Stan Smiths, vans, all stars. These are simple general release sneakers that transcend hype culture and are worn by people from all walks (pun intended) of life.
IMO, I do believe the 550 will become a classic as long as NB strategically drops their products. I would hate for them to fall into the waterfall of fast releases. However, Teddy Saints is also the CD of NB and is the owner of ALD. So the ALD brand will always have a tie with NB because that is brining in NB a ton of money. I do think social media may have this shoe come in waves saying it’s cool then it’s not cool. Overall the 550 and NB is more of a stylish shoe brand than Nike. People who are in professional attire for sometime do actually wear them in a stylish way to keep it professional and comfortable.
So what made shoes like the adidas, AF1s , and some others you listed classic was the cultures they were born in more specifically time period , my point being what made something a classic now will not work in our social media saturated culture. Consider how much shoe manufacturing has advanced and grown. This is similar to Albums , what made something a classic album in the past is not what makes in one in the world of streaming and sound cloud. I enjoyed this video though
I grew up in Middle of Nowhere, Appalachia, and the sneaker scene was completely non-existent lol. Honestly, the only kids that seemed to care about shoes at all were the few skater kids we had. When I think of sneaker/shoe nostalgia, I think about the chunky af DC/Etnies/Adio kinda shoes of the early 2000s. All the "rich" kids repped Nike shocks, if I remember right, but the only people who cared/talked about shoes were the skater kids, and I dunno- something about that style+era honestly feels more "classic" to me than the shocks tbh, but maybe that's my own wannabe-skater nostalgia talking.
So to be a true classic they need time as a general release shoe. Hype comes and goes but the real classics are more available and not as limited. They sell more af1’s than any Jordan one shelltoes have almost never been off the market chuck tailors are so common they breed a life of there own.
I think something becomes a classic when there’s a story behind it, Jordans and Basketball, Dunks and Skateboarding, Superstars and Hip-hop, some shoes can look cool but what’s the story behind em.
Answer to post vid vid question- man when I was in the 6th grade i was all about my shoes- circa 2004- rbk had all the collabs so I had to get the first G Unit sneakers boyyyyyeeee lol and the A.I.s Man. I had the ones with iverson spelled out across the front 😂 also had to have the phat pharms- all white of course. Nelly was out with the AF1 jam so I had to have the Nike AF1s with the phat laces-that’s the only shoe I have bought over 15 times- lmao fast forward a few years and I was rockin the Reebok classics and Nike Air Delta Force which if anyone has the grey and black in a 9.5- I got $80 bucks on em. No scamming tho. I had lots of different ones in between just cant remember their specific names- might come back to it 👌🏾
The Vans XLT Rowley's from the early 2000's in the classic Blue and gum color way... ultimate grail for any grey bush ex skaters out there. Also (and obviously) the standard vans classics. They come in a million colors and they are cheap, I have literally had hundreds. #pvv
Bruh yes, I owned a pair of white and Grey Rowley XLT's growing up and loved those things so much. They were clean back in the days of the fat tongue era.
Honestly think people got bored of 550 cuz they been pumping them out and we’ve seen this with yeezy. Once everyone can easily obtain them people want to move on to the next “exclusive”. To me its fking great cuz i still think the 550 look great on feet. I rock reg fit pants most of the time so having these some what bulky shoe help tie the fit together. Still looking weekly to find a steal on someone past ald the green and yellow joint lol
The Dunk is a strange one, because it constantly falls in and out of popularity. I think it mainly depends on the state of Nikes influence at any given time. The 2000s saw popularity among collectors with OG collabs (DOOM, Tiffany’s, Red Lobster, De La Soul etc.) then the model seemed to fall off. Almost a decade later it was brought back mainly by the Travis Scott collabs and became super popular among the mainstream until the Astroworld incident happened. That’s when AJ 1 and Dunks seemed to no longer be the shoe of choice. As for the 550 I personally don’t see it sticking around aside from staying in the rotation hardcore collectors and enthusiasts. For the PVV: The Air Uptempos and the Jordan 12’s. I remember being a kid in the 90s and everyone had those. I wanted them soooooo bad, but just couldn’t have them 😭😭😭. Being an adult now I couldn’t care less about either of those sneakers cause all I wear is 990s now 🤷🏾♂️
#pvv the CR7 mercurial with the volcano colorway had me begging to my parents but never got em, also the venoms, and the tempos with the long tongue that covered the laces, fire
The most “iconic” sneaker for me was in 2017 when adidas dropped the Oreo ultraboost color way. I finally got a pair last year and man oh man I felt like a kid in the candy store.
Stan Smith is oversaturated but still a classic.. The difference I believe is that some shoes are iconic because of how the culture of that shoe was established back then. You can say that to the all-stars, stan smiths or even the samba. The reason people wore them was it was easy to style and looks good with different outfits. The most recent classic is the ultraboost and NMDs because it was established as the shoe for athleisure style. I do believe these 550 would die off. Only time will tell.
550 is not over saturated at all … what u doin about ? I don’t see as many 550 as dunks.. and when I see people with 550 .. they dress better than people wearing dunks .. in my opinions ..
Drew do you still wear your ALD 550s? I'm curious and if you do and which colourway since I know you have featured the red/navy and the yellow/green colourway. As for are the NB 550s a classic? Imo not yet because I just don't see them on people that much. I consider a classic sneaker something that is mass produced, relatively "cheap", easily obtainable and worn by many like Air Force 1s, Chucks and Vans. They are all these things because they never go out of "style". Also monotone colourways help sneakers become "classics" hence the black Chucks, white air force 1s and black vans are iconic and easily identifiable. I don't think the 550s have really hit the zeitgeist of the mainstream like a classic sneaker does, at least not yet. I do think one thing hindering it is that there is no distinguishable colourway of the 550s and the ALD collab is kinda niche, expensive and hard to find sneaker for it be a "classic".
I've got 550 lunar year of the rabbit two days ago, I'm 52 all the best where from Nike 82 /95 basketball shoes even a few alpha projects early zoom air
Isnt the Nike Dunk vastly more popular than 550s? 550s are popular for sure, but even in its down years Nike Dunks are seen way more on feet at least for me. Pandas are basically the new AF1. Always wondered if you had a more empirical way of determining whats hot or not rather than your own perception, I feel like the resell prices of dunks speak for themselves, especially when you factor in how many restocks the pandas have gotten just this year
Yeah I wish there was a better way to look at it analytically. Yes the dunks are probably more popular from a sales stand point but its hard to gauge most sought after
I think time only will tell what shoes remain a classic or not. In 5 years or so, sneaker culture will determine whether the 550 stays a classic or not
Don't buy regular white on white Air Force 1's or Stan smiths because the quality is terrible. You can now get better quality versions of the white on white Air Force 1's for the same price as regular ones (I'm referring to the recent AF1 fresh white and color of the month releases, the and the craft version isn't bad either)
i feel like shoes made with synthetic materials cant be classics.. also i think for it to be a "classic" certain sub cultures would have to adopt them like how skaters adopted jordan 1s in the 80s
@@stzakari8195 by made with synthetic im mostly meaning stuff like "fly knit" where the upper is made completely of plastics, af1s/superstars/club c's are all made with leather uppers (low quality leather but you get the point)
Back in the day so like 9 years ago the most hype shoes were chucks and Jordan high tops mainly 1,9 and 11 the Yeezy 350 were that shoe tho if you had them shit u ran it
I might be one of the few, but about 10/12 of those in my eyes are classics. Either from their cultural importance over the decades or having memories of camping out in front of malls for them, they will be classics for me and I will respect almost every sneaker
You know Drew Joyner never falling off because he’s always making classics
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Hey Drew!
I don't think I really agree with "Oversaturation" being a cause/related to a sneaker's ability to become a "Classic". Many of the sneakers that are considered "classics" i.e. Air Force 1s, Jordans, Chuck Taylors, Stan Smiths, Shell toes, etc. are mass produced and widely available but still are able to retain that "classic" position within pop culture. In my opinion, what allows a model to become a classic is the versatility of the silhouette and its longevity of relevance within pop culture. Can it be easily adapted to various styles? Can it be worn for a variety of activities? Is it sold at an affordable price to reach mass consumers? And will it outlast the trend period it was born into to remain relevant in the sneaker space?
I think what's stopping shoes like the dunk (vs. stan smiths, vans) or 550s (vs. the AF1, shell toes) from becoming classics is that they draw many characteristics (affordability, silhouette, price point) from pre-existing models that already exhibit those same characteristics AND are already established as "classics".
But, in the end we won't really know if any of these models will become classics until we look back 10 or 20 years from now. Hard to say given how fast mass consumer taste/trends move these days.
I would say that the dunks and 550s are "trendy classics", as in they define a moment in the sneaker market and a general style but could be used past its peak without it looking out of place
Well said
I like the phrase “trendy classic”
Spot on
Perfectly stated.
I think it's really weird that we're talking about 550s as if they're "new" when they're just revived from 1989. They're already a sort of classic in that way, it's not easy to pull a shoe from 30 years ago out again and make it hot. I'd say shelltoes and sambas are classics too, and they're not "popular" anymore.
Facts like it's new to us
the difference is the NB were never as popular as they are now vs AJ1, AF1, dunks, cons, vans have all had repeated peaks in popularity.
so in terms of being. "new" its "new" to pop culture
heard that nb had to buy some vintage 550s from people in japan and rebuilt the silhouette from that pair
what? sambas are like the most popular shoe rn lol
@@edwllcxn In what world are you living?
considering the 550 only really started gaining the traction it did after the ALD collabs, it really is just an overhyped shoe. I love newbalance, they're comfortable and I always feel like I'm getting my moneys worth, and the 550 has such great color blocking potential, but it went from sitting In warehouses to $300 asking prices on ebay so fast that I really think the hype is what drove the sales rather than the love for the silhouette.
The 990v1 is arguably NB’s most classic silhouette (imo)
Sitting in warehouses? I thought The ALD collar revived it after several decades so it wouldn’t have been in production at all prior to it.
@@xXcangjieXx I mean that it wasn't an immensely popular shoe when it came out, it fell into obscurity. The 550 wasn't like your standard Chuck Taylor that basically everyone from rockers to dads wore. How many people have you seen talking about the newbalance 550 before they brought it back in the same way that someone would another shoe that's been relevant for ages? I'm almost certain that if they brought back the newbalance 550 as just a standard release, it wouldn't have gained as much hype. I think the only reason we saw even general release 550's like the UNC blue or the Black and White "oreo" colorway sold out by bots in minutes and were being immedietly resold on ebay (trust me, I was there for every drop) Is BECAUSE of the ALD collabs. Everyone wanted a pair of 550's because they were the hot new shoe, not because they actually wanted 550's
Also, i love newbalance shoes, i own about 7 pairs of different colors and variants, they've been the main shoe that suits my weird ass wide foot and the one shoe where it feels like I'm paying the 3 digit price tag and it almost entirely goes into the quality of the shoe.
@@Rum0r nah. ALD def made it look good. Thats why ppl wanted it in the first place. If u were there when ALD rolled em out, the lookbook and capsule collection were awesome. Thats the point of fashion. To make it hot, otherwise u wont be "fashionable" however for it to be a classic, i think it depends. Todays trend is all about nostalgia. When the look shifts thats when we can see the staying power of the 550
You don’t have to get the ALD 😂 they actually been dropping GR that look similar to the collabs if you’re doing it for ALD and not the look you already lost 😞
I like how you mentioned how classics have an iconic color way. Makes me think of white on white AF1s, castle Gray 990s, Jordan 1 breda, and even Yeezy 700 waverunners. All silhouettes have iconic colors that deem them classics.
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vans is a classic for me. started with the authentics/new eras (honorable mention to the sk8-his), but the old skools are where it's at right now
My parents always did triathlons and other sporty events when I was little, and they always had running shoes with big mesh and silver accents on them. Mostly new balances and ASICS, so I ended up getting a pair of gel kayano 14s about six months ago in honor of them. They were constantly shoes with those design cues, and wearing them takes me back to hot summer days and cheering at the finish line of a triathlon as a 6 year old in 2007.
I remember back in the early 2010's there was this Supra craze in Kenya. I think Lil Wayne really influenced it but it was insane. Everyone at least had a pair of Supras
6:40 basically wore reebok my entire childhood and the Classic Leathers in particular have a very nostalgic/wam place in my heart. The "1983 vintage" pack Reebok released this year were MUSTS for me and I was happy to be able to get them on heavy discount.
Very nice video, you really gave me deep thoughts about this topic
This video is so interesting as both a meta-analysis of fashion AND as a consumer of fashion.
I believe the best colorway is the ALD because it matched the retro 90s vibe. New Balance should release white and a beige colorway for general release and make it a staple.
#pvv might be weird, but I’ve always looked up to my dad’s sneakers, which were mainly new balances. After I overcome his shoe size I bought my own pair which, with Aj1 lows have now become my go-to sneaker, the one I like and wear the most. Blazers as well always seemed wonderful to me.
Hi Drew, please do a part 2 for this video where you discuss the 12 sneakers shown at the beginning and your thoughts on is they're classics or not.
Thanks.
i like to think if the 550 is done right it can easily become a classic . it's iconic look, with a good readily available colorway could make it a classic . but that's exactly what it's lacking i would say that could be the cream and black . don't have a pair but that pair is such a nice colorway. seeing it's path right now it will stay a trend shoe even though it has such a nice iconic look that has put it on the map of well known shoes.
I feel like a lot of Jordan retros are timeless regardless of hype
I take it waaaay back to the Adidas Rod Laver. I usually keep a rotation of different colors, always with the original white/green, then pick up new colors variations every year for different options.
0:41 wouldve been better if u got a picture of these huaraches in an OG colorway
I agree, that is on me
I'm not a sneakerhead my shoe collection consists mainly of "classics", dress shoes and loafers but without a doubt my all time fav sneakers are stan smiths, original with the green accent. My other sneakers are navy high top chuck Taylors, black with white swoosh Cortez, some Reeboks idk the name, red puma suede, blazers, and that's about it lol
This is on point...so articulate drew i could not agree more.
I don't think oversaturation is the issue for the 550 I think it's the lack of a defining coloraway. If you think chucks you think black with white trim or white with the red/blue lines or black vans oldskools or white green trim stan smiths. All of those shoes have every color under the sun available but they're still classics because of the strong base shoes. Even from the ALD collab I find a hard time defining the "main" ALD 550 in my mind.
Bro all the shoes that drew showed at the beginning besides the ultra boots and element reacts are classic shoes that have historical significance maybe not the 350s but presto‘s in the early 2000s and huaraches do as well and all the others ofc
550’s are classics and were brought back just like many others 550’s we’re being rocked way in 1989
If anything I'd argue that the grey 574s with the white laces will end up being more iconic than the 550s. The 574s are a far more accessible shoe whereas the 550s aren't as readily available to the average buyer. Also in my opinion, the 574s have better colorways. I've seen pairs that are just normal navy, dark green, or even burgundy that offer a nice color that isn't overly gaudy like some of the 550s. Not to mention a pair of 574s are more affordable than the 550s; especially when you look at the resale market
honestly vans old skool should be considered a classic at this point. they were popular when I was in grade school in the late 2000s and they're still popular now. they're affordable, easy to get, and easy to style.
I do believe the new balance 550 will be those retro a couple years from now. New balance is just milking it like Nike is with dunks.
Dunks need to be stopped!
it’s hard to read what new balance does with their models, you never know they could just vault it like what they did with 992s
The Jordan 8 Aqua is my forever shoe. 2015 was a great year, went and bought them myself. Great vid bro 🫡
pvv what makes something classic vs iconic
and what is the difference between these 2
would love to see you cover this in a video
I think it’s important to differentiate between hype, classic, and iconic.
Hype is hype. Here today, gone tomorrow. (Roshe, Ultraboost, and HOT TAKE: most collabs)
Iconic is a shoe that is instantly recognizable, especially for an era. But they don’t always become classics. (Foamposites, 990 series, Yeezys)
Classics are shoes that were cool when they were created and just as cool, if not more, now. A shoe that’s by in large timeless. (Jordan 1, 574, Stan Smiths, Chucks)
I feel like the 550s are gonna always be popular when dunks are popping off. They’re a really good alternative for that kind of style
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i like this video mr joiner well done very insightful and a good topic to talk about.
Evolving from cult to oversaturated has to be what makes something classic in the general publics eye. Back then everyone had the chucks, everyone had the dunks, everyone had the rockstars etc. The half life of trends is just extremely fast now. Big fan of the 550 because I never liked the dunks but I cant deny that past trends place in history. It's just a fun shoe.
The pair I really liked when I was young was the air max plus and air max bw. But my all time favorite pair of sneakers is from a designer brand, the Margiela replica sneakers (I wear a pair of replica almost every single day).
It’s unbelievable how long air max has been doing it’s thing, always good to see your comment Hugo
@@DrewJoiner what a great way to tell how old I am 😉😂
The Onitsuka Mexico 66 is an underrated classic. Specifically the white with blue and red linings.
Love these
When I was about 9 or 10 years old, mine and my mom’s shoe size was the same so I used to borrow her Nike Cortez. She saw that I liked the so much that she gave them to me and I wore the hell out of those shoes. I even drew along the sole to make them my own. I really miss those shoes and definitely need to get another pair someday. Those will always be a classic for me. #pvv
8 just because I grew up seeing them and wanted them and when I see them now I still love them
I skated a lot when I was younger, so I naturally gravitated to exclusively skate brands due to their quality. They don’t get the hype they deserve, but Lakai Ltd. was my go to brand for a while.
Honestly, the new balance 550s started as a classic and have become so popular that it’s now a trend. Perhaps a renaissance in 10 years will make them a classic, but I think it’s less of an absolute and more liquid. Shoes can become both trends and classics and it always changes
Like the reebok club c’s- they’re considered a classic as they haven’t (yet) hit the state where they are on everyone’s feet
As someone who's favorite sneaker brand is New Balance, 574 and some of the 99Xs are classics but imo the 550 and 650 are just trendy. Although, I might be bias because I don't like the 550 and 650 models at all.
ALD green/yellow is the defining colorway for the 550 in my opinion.
its hard to say i feel like classics gain the title after many many years of being a staple. 550 yes is a “classic” model being an old silouette yet it has exploded very quickly rather than a slow gradual climb that most “classics” seem to have. only time will tell tho. cool video
Did the huaraches dirty with that orange pair
IMO I dont think NB 550 has reached that level of saturation yet.
At least in SD, CA where I am, compared to my friends, I am one of few people with multiple 550s. People are still having a hard time landing them.
Now will they reach Classic Status? Im not sure, NB out here still doesn't have the same recognition as Nike, so it'll be tough.
classicness is incredibly abstract and unquantifiable and I don't think people should worry about it as much as whether they will love a recent cop for the next 5-10 years
I mean Jordan 1s are classics, yet they have a large amount of colorways/varients, so I don't think the 550s are necessarily fated to fade into irrelevancy, as a result of oversaturation.
I think we must distinguish between "classic silhuettes" and "classic shoes". I would consider many Jordans as classic silhuettes, yet I would not put them in the same category as for example Chuck Taylors, which are most often associated with their one signature color-way.
aren't bred considered the classic colorway for the 1s?
@@alejandroserrano7755 They are the original coloway, yes. But when you think 1s, there's many classic colorways that come to mind.
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The dunks have been a classic, long before their revival in 2020
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idk if there are any “true” classics. they may transcend multiple eras but I don’t think it’s some crazy amount of time
we all thought AJ1’s /J’s in general we’re classics but even the 1 hit that over saturation mark this year
Sneakers will come back with the trends relevant imo. even like monarchs coming back after the wave runners albeit short lived, it was there.
Personally, the 550s are not for me so I can't really see them become classics. I feel like, compairing the 550s to other (imo) classics, the 550s have a little too much details or aren't simple/minimal enough.. although I'm not 100% sure about this take.
For the #pvv, I grew up with airmaxes being the cool and populair shoes. Also Yeezy 350s have been populair. Everyone thought they were cool, and off course they are populair because of the comfort. For the past few years (mostly highschool) everyone has had a pair of AF1s, eventhough that had definitly happend all over the world.
#pvv When I was growing up I used to think the Jordan 3s were like the coolest sneaker to ever exist lol. I always saw Kid Cudi rocking them back in the late 2000s early 2010s and I wanted a pair so badly. I eventually grew to like the 4s more and always have a pair in my closet. They're super clean but offer a chunkier look to my normal everyday shoes. Growing up near Chicago I always remember wearing Chicago Bulls memorabilia as well, so I remember wanting a pair of Jordan 1 "Banned." I've still never snagged a pair because bred highs are always hype and the secondary market is crazy😂
I want to answer your post-vid question, but I have such non-classic taste in shoes. I prefer very colourful shoes so I always wanted the Jeremy Scott Adidas shoes, Id take any of them really but the teddy bear or the bone ones were always the ones Id beg for. They were just so playful in a way no other shoe collab was or really has been to this day. Tho nowadays the sacai x nike xjpg vaporwaffles (brown) are a total grail so my style has changed a bit 🤣
A classic sneaker is almost never one that is hyped. The only exception I can think of is any retro Jordan because of its monumental cultural legacy tied to actual historical events. But the AF1, Stan Smiths, vans, all stars. These are simple general release sneakers that transcend hype culture and are worn by people from all walks (pun intended) of life.
IMO, I do believe the 550 will become a classic as long as NB strategically drops their products. I would hate for them to fall into the waterfall of fast releases. However, Teddy Saints is also the CD of NB and is the owner of ALD. So the ALD brand will always have a tie with NB because that is brining in NB a ton of money. I do think social media may have this shoe come in waves saying it’s cool then it’s not cool. Overall the 550 and NB is more of a stylish shoe brand than Nike. People who are in professional attire for sometime do actually wear them in a stylish way to keep it professional and comfortable.
It already stood the test of time. It’s an 80s shoes originally.
So what made shoes like the adidas, AF1s , and some others you listed classic was the cultures they were born in more specifically time period , my point being what made something a classic now will not work in our social media saturated culture. Consider how much shoe manufacturing has advanced and grown. This is similar to Albums , what made something a classic album in the past is not what makes in one in the world of streaming and sound cloud. I enjoyed this video though
I grew up in Middle of Nowhere, Appalachia, and the sneaker scene was completely non-existent lol. Honestly, the only kids that seemed to care about shoes at all were the few skater kids we had. When I think of sneaker/shoe nostalgia, I think about the chunky af DC/Etnies/Adio kinda shoes of the early 2000s. All the "rich" kids repped Nike shocks, if I remember right, but the only people who cared/talked about shoes were the skater kids, and I dunno- something about that style+era honestly feels more "classic" to me than the shocks tbh, but maybe that's my own wannabe-skater nostalgia talking.
So to be a true classic they need time as a general release shoe. Hype comes and goes but the real classics are more available and not as limited. They sell more af1’s than any Jordan one shelltoes have almost never been off the market chuck tailors are so common they breed a life of there own.
I think something becomes a classic when there’s a story behind it, Jordans and Basketball, Dunks and Skateboarding, Superstars and Hip-hop, some shoes can look cool but what’s the story behind em.
Answer to post vid vid question- man when I was in the 6th grade i was all about my shoes- circa 2004- rbk had all the collabs so I had to get the first G Unit sneakers boyyyyyeeee lol and the A.I.s Man. I had the ones with iverson spelled out across the front 😂 also had to have the phat pharms- all white of course. Nelly was out with the AF1 jam so I had to have the Nike AF1s with the phat laces-that’s the only shoe I have bought over 15 times- lmao fast forward a few years and I was rockin the Reebok classics and Nike Air Delta Force which if anyone has the grey and black in a 9.5- I got $80 bucks on em. No scamming tho. I had lots of different ones in between just cant remember their specific names- might come back to it 👌🏾
😂 this is a legendary story and comment
Id say if its trendy and clean it can become a Classic, something that you can wear in 5 years and still look good even if its not on trend or hyped
The Vans XLT Rowley's from the early 2000's in the classic Blue and gum color way... ultimate grail for any grey bush ex skaters out there. Also (and obviously) the standard vans classics. They come in a million colors and they are cheap, I have literally had hundreds. #pvv
Bruh yes, I owned a pair of white and Grey Rowley XLT's growing up and loved those things so much. They were clean back in the days of the fat tongue era.
most iconic Vans Authentic, Chucks, superstars, stan smiths, any of the gray Nb 99__
I only saw the AJ1s and converse as classics.
Foams was a moment in time I remember ppl shocked that I paid 250 for some shoes crazy how time changes us
love the vids drew
100% agree with the color ways on the 550! Definitely take away from the hype for me
Good topic
Honestly think people got bored of 550 cuz they been pumping them out and we’ve seen this with yeezy. Once everyone can easily obtain them people want to move on to the next “exclusive”. To me its fking great cuz i still think the 550 look great on feet. I rock reg fit pants most of the time so having these some what bulky shoe help tie the fit together. Still looking weekly to find a steal on someone past ald the green and yellow joint lol
The Dunk is a strange one, because it constantly falls in and out of popularity. I think it mainly depends on the state of Nikes influence at any given time. The 2000s saw popularity among collectors with OG collabs (DOOM, Tiffany’s, Red Lobster, De La Soul etc.) then the model seemed to fall off. Almost a decade later it was brought back mainly by the Travis Scott collabs and became super popular among the mainstream until the Astroworld incident happened. That’s when AJ 1 and Dunks seemed to no longer be the shoe of choice.
As for the 550 I personally don’t see it sticking around aside from staying in the rotation hardcore collectors and enthusiasts.
For the PVV:
The Air Uptempos and the Jordan 12’s. I remember being a kid in the 90s and everyone had those. I wanted them soooooo bad, but just couldn’t have them 😭😭😭. Being an adult now I couldn’t care less about either of those sneakers cause all I wear is 990s now 🤷🏾♂️
It has a potential of standing the test of time because of its wearability and versatility
#pvv the CR7 mercurial with the volcano colorway had me begging to my parents but never got em, also the venoms, and the tempos with the long tongue that covered the laces, fire
The most “iconic” sneaker for me was in 2017 when adidas dropped the Oreo ultraboost color way. I finally got a pair last year and man oh man I felt like a kid in the candy store.
that was me when i finally got a pair of the og ultra boost 1.0 with the purple heel cup and the creams in 2018 when they did that restock
@@stzakari8195 to this day I still defend boost as being one of the most comfortable and semi stylish shoes you can buy lol
#pvv i think for me when the 750s came out in high school i was like “woah those are crazy”
Stan Smith is oversaturated but still a classic.. The difference I believe is that some shoes are iconic because of how the culture of that shoe was established back then. You can say that to the all-stars, stan smiths or even the samba. The reason people wore them was it was easy to style and looks good with different outfits. The most recent classic is the ultraboost and NMDs because it was established as the shoe for athleisure style. I do believe these 550 would die off. Only time will tell.
Facts only time will tell
I don’t think over saturation is it. AF1s we’re crazy saturated in the last 6 years and it’s still considered a classic
What do you think it is
10 Classics
550 is not over saturated at all … what u doin about ? I don’t see as many 550 as dunks.. and when I see people with 550 .. they dress better than people wearing dunks .. in my opinions ..
You might be right, maybe social media has skewed my opinion
Drew do you still wear your ALD 550s? I'm curious and if you do and which colourway since I know you have featured the red/navy and the yellow/green colourway.
As for are the NB 550s a classic? Imo not yet because I just don't see them on people that much. I consider a classic sneaker something that is mass produced, relatively "cheap", easily obtainable and worn by many like Air Force 1s, Chucks and Vans. They are all these things because they never go out of "style". Also monotone colourways help sneakers become "classics" hence the black Chucks, white air force 1s and black vans are iconic and easily identifiable.
I don't think the 550s have really hit the zeitgeist of the mainstream like a classic sneaker does, at least not yet. I do think one thing hindering it is that there is no distinguishable colourway of the 550s and the ALD collab is kinda niche, expensive and hard to find sneaker for it be a "classic".
I wear my 650rs more than the 550s at this point!
Wanna talk about a crazy release… the OG south beaches were insane and seeing Ross bust them bitches out in the music video
That was a crazy release haha
I've got 550 lunar year of the rabbit two days ago, I'm 52 all the best where from Nike 82 /95 basketball shoes even a few alpha projects early zoom air
dunks, cons, aj1, af1, vans - thats it rn
i feel like superstars belong there. They go so under the radar but i see them a lot. They just look like such a standard shoe.
Isnt the Nike Dunk vastly more popular than 550s? 550s are popular for sure, but even in its down years Nike Dunks are seen way more on feet at least for me. Pandas are basically the new AF1. Always wondered if you had a more empirical way of determining whats hot or not rather than your own perception, I feel like the resell prices of dunks speak for themselves, especially when you factor in how many restocks the pandas have gotten just this year
Yeah I wish there was a better way to look at it analytically. Yes the dunks are probably more popular from a sales stand point but its hard to gauge most sought after
Some of those 550 color ways definitely suspect 😂
The hype will die and maybe get in trend again.
I think time only will tell what shoes remain a classic or not. In 5 years or so, sneaker culture will determine whether the 550 stays a classic or not
I’m still going to rock my dunks
Foamposites, Prada America’s Cups
I might sell my ALD collab soon
Don't buy regular white on white Air Force 1's or Stan smiths because the quality is terrible. You can now get better quality versions of the white on white Air Force 1's for the same price as regular ones (I'm referring to the recent AF1 fresh white and color of the month releases, the and the craft version isn't bad either)
#pvv, One sneaker I really liked but couldn't afford when I was younger was the Air max 90
i feel like shoes made with synthetic materials cant be classics..
also i think for it to be a "classic" certain sub cultures would have to adopt them like how skaters adopted jordan 1s in the 80s
what’s your definition of classics then, literally classics such as af1, superstars, stan smiths, club cs are all made with synthetic materials
@@stzakari8195 by made with synthetic im mostly meaning stuff like "fly knit" where the upper is made completely of plastics, af1s/superstars/club c's are all made with leather uppers (low quality leather but you get the point)
Back in the day so like 9 years ago the most hype shoes were chucks and Jordan high tops mainly 1,9 and 11 the Yeezy 350 were that shoe tho if you had them shit u ran it
Vans sambas Jordan 1 high top converse
I might be one of the few, but about 10/12 of those in my eyes are classics. Either from their cultural importance over the decades or having memories of camping out in front of malls for them, they will be classics for me and I will respect almost every sneaker
What do you think about making a series of videos about brands you enjoy?
My vans authentics are laughing rn
I would have to say 4 would be classics.