"I loved you, you know." Ah, yes, the truest kind of love where you threaten to slander someone into the dirt so her entire family and everyone she merely looks at is publicly humiliated. Yes, you truly loved her.
"I loved you, you know.' Um, I'm sorry, but blackmail and threatening to humiliate someone and their whole family if they don't do what you say...isn't what I call 'love' at all.
@Auntie M My point exactly. He's a total control freak. I remember in the Christmas episode, he was criticizing every one of the Crawley's traditions, and saying they would NOT be doing things that way in HIS home. HUGE red flag there, at least it would be for me. That was just one example.
To a Narcissist, Control is Love & don't even think about appearing weak or become ill, As It's all about the Narc. Thier the Puppet Master so to speak & all others are merely appliances to be used & Controlled. She appealed to him because she is Strong, empathetic & beautiful. Classy, well dressed & rich. Well connected etc. the Jewel in his Manipulative Crown.
Well to be fair , he could given a nasty retort about “ happily promising to never mix with such pretentious but morally corrupt crowd “ . Both Mary and Violet have very little reasons to look down upon anyone else but they frequently do . Sad
He threatens, gaslights and blackmails. Mary would’ve become a battered wife not a week after walking down the aisle. SO glad she didn’t tie the knot with this ass!
My favorite part:when Richard tells Lady Violet he wouldn't see them again, and she says, Do you promise. Lady Violet may sharp tongued and unsentimental, but she's a mama bear when it comes to her family.
IAIN GLEN is so different in Downton Abbey from what he is in Game of Thrones. Yet both are so similar in a respect. Nevertheless he is charming and has a lovable voice in both.
Completely agree, but I've never been able to figure out precisely why. I kept a closeup photo of his face as my desktop wallpaper for the longest time. There is no particular feature of his face, except for those terrific cheekbones and that jawline.
The upper class changed the rules. It wasn’t in poor taste to talk about where your money came from until they ran out and started marrying American heiresses to get it. Then it was rude to speak of it. 🙄
That's because he was self-made and of new money (granted, there were numerous other factors about his character at play here). Such hypocrisy is pretty typical of those who consider themselves of aristocratic birth and old money. They stick their noses up at those who have made their own way, despite the fact that more often than not (as we see in this show), it is the new money that shores up and saves the old money from self-destruction.
There wasn't the word computer then, but that's what Carlisle reminds me of, any human feeling only can be seen in him when it's negative. A wonderful actor!
By 1919 (when Richard is part of the story) the word Computer had been in use for nearly 200 years. Before it was commonly used for the machines we have today, a computer was a person. Someone who computes, or does calculations. Carlisle is definitely calculative. Still applies.
If you get a chance, watch Glascow kiss (2000) and you'll see the widower he plays with a young son does get the girl in the end and what a bicycle chase yo catch up with her! And a terrific dancer too. :)
I made a point to watch Downton Abbey only because of Jorah Mormont. Jorah gave me such a crush on Iain Glen. I am glad my fascination eventually settled down to reasonable proportions. Khaleesi was so repulsive that Jorah finally became a pathetic idiot in my eyes. Carlisle is impossible to like but Glen remains beautiful. He has a wonderful voice and gorgeous cheekbones. Best of all, he is one of the most graceful men I've ever seen. I do love to watch him move.
Agreed. Any man that threatens to ruin a woman's reputation doesn't truly love them. Mary isn't my favorite character on this show but I do agree that she, like her sisters, should marry for love and thankfully she did.
@@vijithadsan8169 I agree. Mary was in the wrong for that but I am glad that all the sisters ended up marrying men they truly loved and it would seem going by the first movie that Edith and Mary get along better. Looking forward to the next movie once it comes out!
The most heart breaking scene for me , was when Daisy married Williams on his death bed and then for him to pass away right after the chaste 😘 kiss .I couldn’t help sobbing.😭
Mary is marrying him knowing she doesn’t love him. She loves Matthew but is marrying for selfish reasons to protect herself and her family. Yet somehow she comes off as the victim here? Noblesse oblige? Richard has rhe right to be pissed off
I really don’t get it when a rich middle aged or older man sets his sights on a younger, attractive woman ... and expects her to PREFER him romantically to younger, more attractive men. It’s a recipe for heartbreak and frustration.
@@ariochiv Yeah, it was the reasonable choice, but the guys should not expect their partner to prefer them because of love or romance. I guess Mary would have been classy enough to go through this marriage had Carlisle not been so jealous or controlling.
You are so refreshingly naive. It's the opposite. Mentally, women are way more mature than their male contemporaries. Older men have cooled down into finer wine. Less clingy, more worldly, less temperamental and more knowledgeable. You'll see what I'm saying when you are much older.
He is so handsome in a rugged way. Always getting friendzoned. Never understood Dany friendzoning him. He was completely in love with her and was absolutely devoted to her. I do believe she used his feelings for her.
Matthew was the villain in this love circle, not Sir Richard Carlisle. Matthew toyed with both Lavinia and Mary feeling, making them both unhappy and uncertain. Remember: Lavinia begged Matthew to break off the engagement after she saw Matthew and Mary kissing and Matthew refused. Mary desperately wanted to be married, and because she couldn't marry the man she loved (Matthew), she settles for the man with wealth. Mr. Richard Carlisle loved Mary, and because Mary kept showing more affection towards Matthew than to him, he was made to be more angry and aggressive than he was. Just as Sarah Bunting provoked Lord Grantham to wrath, so did Mathew and Mary to Sir Richard Carlisle.
Both Matthew and Mary were extremely unfair to sir Richard and Lavinia. When they both knew they weren't over each other, they should have not gotten involved with other people. And if they made a commitment to someone else they should have stuck to it and not gone around stealing glances and kisses when no one was looking. They behaved very disgustingly.
Seriously. It was fair, Matthew did love Lavinia and I wouldn’t say Mary loved Richard but Matthew and Mary belonged with each other even tho it ended so tragically. So to me it was fair and all this was to show that they still had feelings for each other. Richard was controlling and manipulative and in a way rude. So I don’t blame Mary. Lavinia was overall a good girl and Mary treated her like a friend so it’s not like Mary treated her like garbage
Inayat Ahmed they never got married in the first part bc of the uncertainty of the gender of Lady Granthams baby and Pamuk. so therefore it’s not a sin to move on and to love other people
I agree they were unfair to Lavinia and Mathew should have been honest with her about still loving Mary. I also agree that Mary's obvious affection for Mathew probably was irritating to Richard and her being wishy washy wasn't right. HOWEVER, that does not excuse or justify Richard's pushy and manipulative tactics to shove Mary into Marriage. If he truly loved her he wouldn't have tried to repeatedly blackmail her and hold his "favor" to her over her head!
If and I do mean If Lady Mary had married Sir Richard she would have been a Socialite Trophy wife. An arrangement similar to that of her Aunt, Lady Rosemound. She married Marmaduke for his wealth and he married her for her social power. In all fairness I can't blame Sir Richard for his disdain of the relationship between Mary and Matthew. All he wanted to do is make a Powerful and Happy couple. He truly fell in love with Lady Mary's cold, cheek, and aloof personality. He saw her as strong, determined, brave, bold and loving.
Naaaaaw......they would not have been happy ...he is controlling .. manipulative...and abusive ....why should he be jealous of Mathew .....where was Mathew going to go ????
A Happy Aristocratic marriage was few and far between in the 1800-1900s. Families like the Crawley's married for the following reasons, Wealth, Status, and Power. "Keeping it the family show." I do believe Lady Mary would have lived a life of Wealth, Power and Privilege. Her parents fell in Love with each other. Tis would Not have been the same for Lady Mary and Sir Richard.
I liked him as well. Mary was quite disrespectful to him. She was going to marry him yet she was rude and disrespectful at every turn. Mary is catty. Carlisle was her match. As for him loving her, he actually would have loved her and fallen even more deeply, if given a chance. And his love for Mary would have made him WANT to change. He would have mellowed, he would have softened, and he would have cherished her. But she was witchy and rude. I couldn't stand the way she treated him.
He said he loved Mary...don't think he did. He constantly reminded her that he could expose her....tried to bribe Anna? Love? They are are family events ..Mathew is going to be there ...he is constantly haranguing her about Mathew ???
Sunshine Which is why I said I didn’t like him, in fact I loathed him from beginning to end, but for just a moment I could see things from his point of view.
Do you know Sir Richard Carlisle aka Ser Jorah Mormont aka Khallesi Danarys Stormborn Mother of Dragons Queen of the Andals Heir to the Iron Throne Breaker of Chains bodyguard?
Melissa Forkner Lesher : I question the sincerity of his “love.” I have loved people who were unwilling or unable to return my feelings. I was hurt and disappointed, of course, but... I still love them and I genuinely wish them happiness and prosperity. Genuine love is simply incapable of selfishness. I have also been in a relationship where the love was very uneven (though I didn’t realize it). I genuinely loved and appreciated the man, but there were multiple incompatibilities that kept me from really bonding with him in a deep, passionate way. He felt my lack of involvement and was very hurt and angry. Meanwhile I was confused by his anger/hurt because I really was giving him the best I could.
To me, he had all the markers of a potential abuser. Controlling, manipulative, eager to 'punish' at the first sign of being crossed, and the way he sometimes physically forceful. Mary could have easily ended up being beaten by his guy, or at least emotionally and mentally abused.
Feblik lol. The only reason why I liked him a little but was bc he was Ian Glen but I must say he doesn’t look extremely old but compared to all the other younger men in the show he does look quiet old lol. But he isn’t bad looking
Does anyone else feel like they can't hate Carlisle just because they're so used to seeing him as Jorah? I love him as Ser Jorah so much that I couldn't see him as anything else even if I tried
Loved him in game of thrones, hated him in downton Abbey. Shows what an amazing actor he is.
Gosh. I didn't even recognise him as the same actor
He indeed was an amazing actor! He manages to make the char he plays to be loved or hated, it's quite amazing
When I saw him on GOT I thought "Oh no!" but loved him on that show.
ABSOLUTELY!! He’s great to hate and to love
Fantastic actor (although him as Bruce Wayne is a hard pass for me)
She's great in Resident Evil too
"I'm leaving in the morning, Lady Grantham. I doubt we'll meet again."
"DO YOU PROMISE??"
Where does that conversation take place in this clip?
Lady Grantham says it after that fight.
@@Onmysheet the quote is still not in this clip.
Yaaaaas I literally peed my pants as soon as he said that. That’s one of the most savage moments of the Dowager that I would watch a million times 😂
Lady Grantham burns again
Mary made the right decision- Sir Richard had the makings of an abusive husband.
Boy, did he ever, alarm bells going off all the time. A real creep.
he is not acting
@Billie Bunker good actor point out bad please
Sir Richard never had the makings of a varsity athlete
Oh you best believe that. He was gonna beat her into submission or into ruin.
"I want to marry you."
"Why?"
They only met once so yeah I would ask the same thing
@@jehannethompson1432 I think they had met a handful of times, even if most of them happened offscreen.
"I loved you, you know."
Ah, yes, the truest kind of love where you threaten to slander someone into the dirt so her entire family and everyone she merely looks at is publicly humiliated. Yes, you truly loved her.
"I loved you, you know.' Um, I'm sorry, but blackmail and threatening to humiliate someone and their whole family if they don't do what you say...isn't what I call 'love' at all.
...hear, hear...;)👏👍👏👍
@Auntie M My point exactly. He's a total control freak. I remember in the Christmas episode, he was criticizing every one of the Crawley's traditions, and saying they would NOT be doing things that way in HIS home. HUGE red flag there, at least it would be for me. That was just one example.
The things we do for love.
To a Narcissist, Control is Love & don't even think about appearing weak or become ill, As It's all about the Narc. Thier the Puppet Master so to speak & all others are merely appliances to be used & Controlled. She appealed to him because she is Strong, empathetic & beautiful. Classy, well dressed & rich. Well connected etc. the Jewel in his Manipulative Crown.
It's what the press do now and lap it up. Do something that people don't like, rake their past up and hold people to randsome.
They are such great actors, the whole cast...
0:57 “Touch wood”
“I never stopped touching it.”
... oh my
Thought I heard that tooooo my god
hehe
I was confused by this exchange. Can someone explain?
@@margarettaylor473 the parody or the actual meaning of the scene?
@@margarettaylor473 it's like saying "knock on wood" for good luck. the english say touch wood
I found Sir Richard fascinating and sad. A man whose admirable qualities are completely eclipsed by his repellant insecurity and tiresome complacence.
you should be a writer
And abusive manner, let’s not forget that. There is no way he wouldn’t have turned violent after the marriage. 😬
"I'm leaving lady Grantham, I'm afraid I won't be back"
".......Do you promise?"
I probably don't have the quotes exactly right, but I love that line!
It was close enough. LOL 😂
"Captain Crawley."
Mary introduces Matthew so proudly.
Ian glen is a marvellous actor
Poor Jorah, no matter when & where, he is ALWAYS friendzoned
Lol friendzoned in a made up middle ages time and early 1900 poor Jorah.
Lol lol lol lol
Lol
😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha
Ser Jorah getting rejected by emancipated women Part 1
"Lady Grantham, my responsibility is to Khaleeesi!!!"
Beaten by a dead man too lol
At least this one wasn't a genocidal maniac.
at least here he's strong. Jorah is an unfortunate simp
Omg omg omg how come I can’t believe I just noticed that!!!! It is Ser Jorah
'I'm leaving in the morning, Lady Grantham. I doubt we'll meet again.'
'Do you promise?'
😂😂😂
Well to be fair , he could given a nasty retort about “ happily promising to never mix with such pretentious but morally corrupt crowd “ . Both Mary and Violet have very little reasons to look down upon anyone else but they frequently do . Sad
He threatens, gaslights and blackmails. Mary would’ve become a battered wife not a week after walking down the aisle. SO glad she didn’t tie the knot with this ass!
Yes, he does all that to perfection!
Why couldn't he have the proverbial accident while cleaning his gun/?
He would have a mistress and flaunt it infrobt of her because he felt he was entitled.
If he had called her "Khaleesi" she'd have definitely fallen in love with him.
Didn't help him with the real one.
Why?
Friendzoned 😁
Ser Jorah, lord of the friend zone, first of his name, king of getting his dream crushed.
*Nah, they cut the part where Granny burned Carlisle and the Vase* 😅😂
That vase endured the dowager's hatred for half a century it doesn't deserve to be disrespected like this 😂
Lisa Huber lol 😅😂
My favorite part:when Richard tells Lady Violet he wouldn't see them again, and she says, Do you promise. Lady Violet may sharp tongued and unsentimental, but she's a mama bear when it comes to her family.
..that was THE BEST part of allll...’I shall never see you again’...’You promise’???? :)!
That's the only reason I came here and when I arrived I heard Robert say he never stops touching wood
IAIN GLEN is so different in Downton Abbey from what he is in Game of Thrones. Yet both are so similar in a respect. Nevertheless he is charming and has a lovable voice in both.
Loved him in doctor who
3:54 I love how Iain Glenn is standing as if he is wearing a sword.
You're so right. That's a stance that you want to watch all day, in front of a manteled fireplace. Noms.
Great actor with a wide range where he can play such a wonderful character in GOT and such a insufferable ass wipe in DA.
His face was chiseled from the finest marble. Great looking gentleman.
According to you.
Rest In Peace, Ser Jorah Mormont 😭❤️
Iain Glen was brilliant but frightening. WOW. Mary was slightly more humble when she was with him. A narrow escape thanks to Michael.
Carlisle was an interesting character. Overall, he was pretty reprehensible, but he did keep Mary's secret after she left him.
I think it was becuse of the last conversation. Mary showed real maturity here.
Iain Glen is a terrific actor because he really had me hating on Richard Carlisle in DA. Bravo acting! 👏💯
That Iain Glen is a handsome man.
Yes he is! He's my GOT crush 😍
Abso fuckin' lutely!!!
Completely agree, but I've never been able to figure out precisely why. I kept a closeup photo of his face as my desktop wallpaper for the longest time. There is no particular feature of his face, except for those terrific cheekbones and that jawline.
@@valkyriesardo278 And the perfect nose, and pretty blue eyes, and... He's beautiful!
Only the reason he always get friendzone😀😂😂
They get Rosamund's costume so perfect. She stands out as being a fashionable londoner whilst the rest look like country bumpkins
I love the outfits of the crawlers too they’re elegant
Her coat and hat when she arrives at Downton is one of my favorites from the whole series ❤
The upper class changed the rules. It wasn’t in poor taste to talk about where your money came from until they ran out and started marrying American heiresses to get it. Then it was rude to speak of it. 🙄
"Touch wood."
"I never stopped touching it"
👍
Giggity
😂. I giggled 🤭
You can say what you want about the character but the actor is great
Love how Mary and family still looked down their nose at him despite badly needing his money 😂. “A rather large and vulgar house” 😅
That's because he was self-made and of new money (granted, there were numerous other factors about his character at play here). Such hypocrisy is pretty typical of those who consider themselves of aristocratic birth and old money. They stick their noses up at those who have made their own way, despite the fact that more often than not (as we see in this show), it is the new money that shores up and saves the old money from self-destruction.
"I love you = "I love the power and control I have over you" in this situation 💯🤦
Sir Richard didn’t love Mary at all, despite his claims. You don’t threaten people you love.
Mary tried to manipulate him، you don't manipulate people you love.
I love Iain Glen so much, he's always at level 100 in any role 👏👏👏
This guy is the king of the friend zone
King of rude assholes, I think you mean.
Sunshine , 😂 LOL touché
Mary's reaction from the punch. It's like she's never witnessed it in her entire life. lol
Love this mans voice
"I loved you, you know. More than you knew. And much much more than you loved me." Oh yeah? You're a beast.
"And much more than you loved me." Whose fault is that?
What a character
There wasn't the word computer then, but that's what Carlisle reminds me of, any human feeling only can be seen in him when it's negative. A wonderful actor!
By 1919 (when Richard is part of the story) the word Computer had been in use for nearly 200 years. Before it was commonly used for the machines we have today, a computer was a person. Someone who computes, or does calculations. Carlisle is definitely calculative. Still applies.
@@toxicginger9936 thanks for information, however, I meant a machine.
Wonderful actor lovely man
Poor Jorah never gets the girl
If you get a chance, watch Glascow kiss (2000) and you'll see the widower he plays with a young son does get the girl in the end and what a bicycle chase yo catch up with her! And a terrific dancer too. :)
look at that skin and his smokers breathh but shesmokes too euros all smoke by the way
I made a point to watch Downton Abbey only because of Jorah Mormont. Jorah gave me such a crush on Iain Glen. I am glad my fascination eventually settled down to reasonable proportions. Khaleesi was so repulsive that Jorah finally became a pathetic idiot in my eyes. Carlisle is impossible to like but Glen remains beautiful. He has a wonderful voice and gorgeous cheekbones. Best of all, he is one of the most graceful men I've ever seen. I do love to watch him move.
0:56
"touch wood"
"I have never stopped touching it"
I know they have meant it in a different way, but I am immature and I find it funny! 😂😂😂
Who else here is here for Jorah 😭❤️
Who is Jorah?
He's an actor he plays different roles. Stop being a silly fool.
@@ingriddubbel8468 Are you calling me a fool, for not knowing who Jorah is?
You know you can search it up
@@sarahkristensen game of thrones ;)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorah_Mormont?wprov=sfla1
People likes to be rude on UA-cam
RIP Ser Jorah the Bear, you shall be remembered
Yeah, fuck those anti-spoiler manic
I find Iain Glen REALLY handsome even for his age. a silver fox
Wow, Matthew is gorgeous - what a couple Mary and Matthew make - pity it ended so!
Even fair and lovely tempered Cora is annoyed by him.
I'm glad that Mary didn't marry him. He seemed nasty and manipulative.
Agreed. Any man that threatens to ruin a woman's reputation doesn't truly love them. Mary isn't my favorite character on this show but I do agree that she, like her sisters, should marry for love and thankfully she did.
@@JJSparxx
She was always horrible to Edith. She wanted to prevent Edith marrying for love.
@@vijithadsan8169 I agree. Mary was in the wrong for that but I am glad that all the sisters ended up marrying men they truly loved and it would seem going by the first movie that Edith and Mary get along better. Looking forward to the next movie once it comes out!
@@vijithadsan8169 Edith was equally bad to Mary too.
He's dashing
C. S.
Through the snow
On a one horse open sleigh
alex thelizardking lol
My dude always sounds like he's doing voiceover work for a 1970s TV commercial for Rhodesian Airlines
He has such a hot, velvety voice
Anyones else on their Iian Glen marathon or any other GOT cast members?
Yes especially cuz of last night's episode 😭😭😭
@@biancao7631 omg yes :( I cried a lit
Yaaass!! I've been watching all the movies he has been part of. Im still healing from Jorahs death.
Yesss!! I'm having trouble dealing with the loss of Jorah!! Like I don't even know if I can watch the rest of the season.
He never really loved her. He loved what she could do for him. She would have been a feather in his cap. Something for his pride.
Omg is that Jorah?
Yup 🤣
That he does
Who in the world is Jorah and Kaleesi?! It's all over the comments.
@@gennag5637 they're characters from Game of Thrones. Jorah is played by the same actor.
MaffiiOrdaz thanks for clearing that up for me. I was so confused. 😁
The most heart breaking scene for me , was when Daisy married Williams on his death bed and then for him to pass away right after the chaste 😘 kiss .I couldn’t help sobbing.😭
Sir Richard would have been everything Mary ever wanted, until she met matthew thank goodness and discovered there was so much more.
Iain Glen is incredible in every role he plays. He terrified me in Song for a Raggy Boy.
Sir Richard Mormont, Grand Máster of the Most Noble Order of the Friendzone
Love Mary’s performing in his office, real noble
That fight scene was almost funny. They just kinda held onto each other, rolling from one piece of furniture to another.
I hope that he is included in the movie!
Why would he be?
I wish he was I feel so bad for him
No
That would be too awkward
He said that “when we marry” line to Cora in such an indecent way. It sounded condescending and just ick.
*Comments*
97% Jorah
2% Actually talking about Downton
1% Teen Titans
Mary is marrying him knowing she doesn’t love him. She loves Matthew but is marrying for selfish reasons to protect herself and her family. Yet somehow she comes off as the victim here? Noblesse oblige? Richard has rhe right to be pissed off
Thank you for great videos ✨✨
I really don’t get it when a rich middle aged or older man sets his sights on a younger, attractive woman ... and expects her to PREFER him romantically to younger, more attractive men. It’s a recipe for heartbreak and frustration.
It was a different time, when ladies required their suitors to be rich, and so marrying an older man was the norm.
@@ariochiv Yeah, it was the reasonable choice, but the guys should not expect their partner to prefer them because of love or romance. I guess Mary would have been classy enough to go through this marriage had Carlisle not been so jealous or controlling.
You are so refreshingly naive. It's the opposite. Mentally, women are way more mature than their male contemporaries.
Older men have cooled down into finer wine. Less clingy, more worldly, less temperamental and more knowledgeable.
You'll see what I'm saying when you are much older.
@Arioch IV : a practically chosen marriage of convenience does not a love match make.
Una Nina Nine : We’ll just have to agree to disagree. Thanks for commenting.
"I suppose you feel I've used you." You fucking did. Run man.
He is so handsome in a rugged way. Always getting friendzoned. Never understood Dany friendzoning him. He was completely in love with her and was absolutely devoted to her. I do believe she used his feelings for her.
Matthew was the villain in this love circle, not Sir Richard Carlisle. Matthew toyed with both Lavinia and Mary feeling, making them both unhappy and uncertain. Remember: Lavinia begged Matthew to break off the engagement after she saw Matthew and Mary kissing and Matthew refused. Mary desperately wanted to be married, and because she couldn't marry the man she loved (Matthew), she settles for the man with wealth. Mr. Richard Carlisle loved Mary, and because Mary kept showing more affection towards Matthew than to him, he was made to be more angry and aggressive than he was. Just as Sarah Bunting provoked Lord Grantham to wrath, so did Mathew and Mary to Sir Richard Carlisle.
Both Matthew and Mary were extremely unfair to sir Richard and Lavinia. When they both knew they weren't over each other, they should have not gotten involved with other people. And if they made a commitment to someone else they should have stuck to it and not gone around stealing glances and kisses when no one was looking. They behaved very disgustingly.
Seriously. It was fair, Matthew did love Lavinia and I wouldn’t say Mary loved Richard but Matthew and Mary belonged with each other even tho it ended so tragically. So to me it was fair and all this was to show that they still had feelings for each other. Richard was controlling and manipulative and in a way rude. So I don’t blame Mary. Lavinia was overall a good girl and Mary treated her like a friend so it’s not like Mary treated her like garbage
Inayat Ahmed they never got married in the first part bc of the uncertainty of the gender of Lady Granthams baby and Pamuk. so therefore it’s not a sin to move on and to love other people
Your opinion. But to me Sir Richard was horrible but Lavinia was a sweetheart and Mary was nice to her even tho she still loved Matthew
I agree they were unfair to Lavinia and Mathew should have been honest with her about still loving Mary. I also agree that Mary's obvious affection for Mathew probably was irritating to Richard and her being wishy washy wasn't right. HOWEVER, that does not excuse or justify Richard's pushy and manipulative tactics to shove Mary into Marriage. If he truly loved her he wouldn't have tried to repeatedly blackmail her and hold his "favor" to her over her head!
8:40 Oh no he didn't!
If and I do mean If Lady Mary had married Sir Richard she would have been a Socialite Trophy wife. An arrangement similar to that of her Aunt, Lady Rosemound. She married Marmaduke for his wealth and he married her for her social power. In all fairness I can't blame Sir Richard for his disdain of the relationship between Mary and Matthew. All he wanted to do is make a Powerful and Happy couple. He truly fell in love with Lady Mary's cold, cheek, and aloof personality. He saw her as strong, determined, brave, bold and loving.
Naaaaaw......they would not have been happy ...he is controlling .. manipulative...and abusive ....why should he be jealous of Mathew .....where was Mathew going to go ????
He was abusive, manipulative and wanted to control who she spoke with and whose jokes she laughed at. NOPE!
Raspberry Dove-Ali, not happy. She would never have been happy with him. She could see what he was.
A Happy Aristocratic marriage was few and far between in the 1800-1900s. Families like the Crawley's married for the following reasons, Wealth, Status, and Power. "Keeping it the family show." I do believe Lady Mary would have lived a life of Wealth, Power and Privilege. Her parents fell in Love with each other. Tis would Not have been the same for Lady Mary and Sir Richard.
Are you in your right mind???
Then he goes off and gets involved with the Targaryens! Better them than the that British family ! 🇮🇪
Targaryens before condescending snobs 😊
"I hope the next woman you live deserve you more than i did." How is that not a nod to game of thrones:)
I love sir Carlisle. Maybe residual feeling from GOT. But he is such a match for Lady Mary.
I feel these two would be good business partners, rather than husband and wife.
I liked him as well. Mary was quite disrespectful to him. She was going to marry him yet she was rude and disrespectful at every turn. Mary is catty. Carlisle was her match. As for him loving her, he actually would have loved her and fallen even more deeply, if given a chance. And his love for Mary would have made him WANT to change. He would have mellowed, he would have softened, and he would have cherished her. But she was witchy and rude. I couldn't stand the way she treated him.
They areboth good together. But obvioisuly it wasn't the best for the show
5:25 when Richard kisses Mary after threatening her... It was chilling. He was disgusting
You can't smell through a television screen but every time he was on my screen, he stunk up my room.
That was your curry farts....don't blame him.
quite the opposite you stunk your own tv
I missed the episodes where and how she met Sir Richard, looking forward to seeing them...this is a great video... thank you!!!
There never were episodes showing them meeting. Mary mentions him to her mother and sisters, after they'd already met.
Mary deserved Sir Carlise. He was the male version of her.
I felt sort of sorry for him in the end, I never liked him but he did love Mary in his way and was doing his best to fit in, but it never worked.
He said he loved Mary...don't think he did. He constantly reminded her that he could expose her....tried to bribe Anna? Love? They are are family events ..Mathew is going to be there ...he is constantly haranguing her about Mathew ???
He was a manipulative and controlling abuser.
Sunshine Which is why I said I didn’t like him, in fact I loathed him from beginning to end, but for just a moment I could see things from his point of view.
He was a control freak, and an abusive bully. IMO, he displayed all the warning signs of a potential abuser.
In the words of those days........he was an unimaginable bastard.
Es un classic, always, thanks. 😎📺💵💵💎
I want all of Lady Mary blouses. I wonder what the production does with them???
Do you know Sir Richard Carlisle aka Ser Jorah Mormont aka Khallesi Danarys Stormborn Mother of Dragons Queen of the Andals Heir to the Iron Throne Breaker of Chains bodyguard?
Aah, Lord Friendzone, back at it again.
Lord Friendzone has such an amazing voice. I know... stating the obvious...
"Touch wood"
"I never stopped touching it"
Why is no one laughing about this?
"What have I ever done to deserve this?"
YOU THREATENED TO RUIN HER LIFE
"I'm many things but not that."
3:55 that’s his Jorah stance lol
He was awesome in Tomb Raiders with Lara Croft.
Detestable man. I don't think he loved her, at all.
Rebekah Martin: I think he loved her, but not in a healthy way. It was very one-sided.
He loved her, but her constant rejection made him ugly.
Melissa Forkner Lesher : I question the sincerity of his “love.” I have loved people who were unwilling or unable to return my feelings. I was hurt and disappointed, of course, but... I still love them and I genuinely wish them happiness and prosperity. Genuine love is simply incapable of selfishness.
I have also been in a relationship where the love was very uneven (though I didn’t realize it). I genuinely loved and appreciated the man, but there were multiple incompatibilities that kept me from really bonding with him in a deep, passionate way. He felt my lack of involvement and was very hurt and angry. Meanwhile I was confused by his anger/hurt because I really was giving him the best I could.
He was only after a title.
To me, he had all the markers of a potential abuser. Controlling, manipulative, eager to 'punish' at the first sign of being crossed, and the way he sometimes physically forceful. Mary could have easily ended up being beaten by his guy, or at least emotionally and mentally abused.
Mary: Father Ive found a new suitor.
Robert: Really? What's his name?
Mary: He goes by Richard Carlisle but you can call him Frank Underwood.
He was a complete jerk, yet I still liked him.
What a manipulative character that newspaper man was. 🤨
It's not love if you manipulate the person into compliance for power disguised as affection.
He is the same age as Sir Anthony (and Robert). Yet they had no problem with him.
Amen
Probably bc he was rich and Mary needed to be married.
Feblik probably by a few years. Sir Richard could be Mary’s father lol
Feblik lol. The only reason why I liked him a little but was bc he was Ian Glen but I must say he doesn’t look extremely old but compared to all the other younger men in the show he does look quiet old lol. But he isn’t bad looking
Anyone know the name of the music at the beginning?
Does anyone else feel like they can't hate Carlisle just because they're so used to seeing him as Jorah? I love him as Ser Jorah so much that I couldn't see him as anything else even if I tried
Yes, same!!!