Is Daniel Cormier right about Bo Nickal?
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Chael Sonnen talks Bo Nickal vs Khamzat Chimaev on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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All things UFC and MMA with the undefeated Bad Guy, Chael Sonnen. UFC Champions, Jon Jones, Conor McGregor, Colby Covington, Khamzat Chimaev, the MMA hour and commentary on the latest UFC news, UFC Champions in 2022, UFC knockouts and finishes.
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Facts
Lol
Never lost a round!
Damn I wish I could post that “Dick Ridaaaah” meme here rn 😢
Chael sonnen for President
In my opinion, when Overeem beat Cejudo for the vacant heavy straw-weight title by using a rear-naked hook kick of his back, was the best performance I ever saw during an under card title fight in the contender series of Bellator.
What the fuck ☠️☠️☠️😊
Well said
I read this like 20 times
Beautiful, it’s beautiful
Just imagine
Damn, I forgot Khamzat one-punch KO’d that guy Merchant.
Merchant lol
My grandmother could have KO'd Meerschaert
@@truthseekerKJV he was literally bullying silva tf u mean kid, just shows how much power khamzat has
@@truthseekerKJV funny enough.. that guy is actually a high level fighter
Meerchaert doesn’t have good stand up and didn’t see the punch coming at all. If he didn’t get KOd first thing it prob would of been a good fight.
Another acutely refreshing cerebral analysis from Chael
*acutely refreshing 😂
He's very good at it🔥
Chael please take Dana's spot one day.
That would be a down grade of his power and influence.
That’s never going to happen nor should it. Chael is a good businessman and promoter but NO. The last thing the UFC needs is someone who overvalues entertainment and heel antics over accomplishments. All he would do is favor the fighters who remind him of himself during his own career. Chael fans say the dumbest stuff ever, I swear.
Y’all are easily the biggest casuals in all of MMA. I gotta stop reading the comments-they’re never not bad lol.
@@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 How his shaft taste? Is is salty or spicy?
Dana will leave the UFC IN A BOX!🤣 He just loves it SO MUCH and all of us should be GRATEFUL!😉
@@emmanueldixon2235 relax dickson
We still need to find out if Bo has a chin
Anatomically speaking, Bo indeed, has a chin attached to his face. Now the question should be, is Bo able to keep track of his sheep while Buzz and Woody continue to bicker about the reality of a toy being alive and able to utilize lasers?
OP: And if he can strike as well
@@emmanueldixon2235 seems like his striking is pretty good definitely his transitions isn’t strikes to smokescreen takedowns. He is training with a top team to worm with his striking
@@singleskin-yt3680 What striking feats has Bo displayed that has (falsely) led you to believe that it’s “pretty good”? Oh, because he landed a single overhand left on the last can he crushed to earn his UFC contract??
@@emmanueldixon2235 yall dont even know the def of a can 😭
I think 15 minutes with the...what was Burns? The number 3 welterweight in the world? Fifteen minutes in the octagon where his normal tools weren't putting the opponent in the dirt, where he got pushed, hit, and countered is worth a ton.
Experience as a concept might be nebulous, but I think it's clear that Bo hasn't been tested as much in MMA. Chimaev got the acid test and passed.
It is all going to come down to Bo's ability to take the punches coming in. I know there have been decorated wrestlers in the UFC, but Bo is different. I'm sure someone will figure it out, but he is going to be initially successful. If Bo can actually strike, he could be extremely dangerous.
His mom is a boxing coach, he finally showed hands yesterday. Dude is a problem for everyone
Yeah Frank Mir watched him fight someone he said we know he's a killer as far as ground game goes but how are his hands next fight throws his hands and knocks the guy out.. Frank: this kid is a huge problem that good at wrestling and he throws like that???? Yeah he'll be champ soon if given the opportunity.
Bo has said it himself..."he hasnt been hit yet!" Thats a whole different world getting punched in the head. He looks great but Im not totally sold yet to be honest.
@@rockycon1967Same was said about Chimaev until he beat Gilbert Burns and even then some were saying Burns won that fight and I disagree, I think Chimaev definitely won based off his ability to take hits, and granted he did get dropped and rocked a few times by Burns, but he also rocked burns in the 3rd round and in the 1st he took Burns off his feet with a hard 1 2 right left.
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Same.
Same. It’s a morning ritual
Lol he exaggerates a lot. I would take some facts with a grain of salt otherwise some info he gives out is good
We love your videos. Thanx Uncle Chael!!
4:20 ….brilliant point about the octagon time gap. The only real gap is fighting under the big lights and opponent quality….but does anyone think Bo is going to fold under the lights?
Literally only people like DC and Bisping.
And i cover for their asses all the time
No. The argument Chael tried to make what pointless and 100% wrong. He tries to act like he is making a good point by saying shit like that when it reality it means little to fuck all. Chimaev has been doing MMA a whole hell of a lot longer than Bo...id wager to say a couple years more, not 20 minutes like Chael is making it out to be. Same for Islam...he has been doing Sambo his whole life which is pretty much MMA. Most of what Chael says is irrelevant nonsense to make himself sound smart, cool and like he knows something we don't.
Thing you have to take in to account is that it’s not only 20 min. It’s preparing for a fight 6 times. It’s executing your game plan. Its about learning what happens when the game plan dose not work. It’s about having everyone cheering on you. It’s about having everyone booing you. It’s about feeling the pressure to preform under the bright lights. I think that Bo will be able to handle the pressure good since he’s been competing for so long. But the stakes in the octagon is not the same as a wrestling match.
Bo has done this for many other types of performances in front of thousands as well. In fact you could easily argue he has more "show time" than chimiave quite easily.
Bo was in the prime time spot agains gordan ryan.
If it goes to the ground, and it will, Bo will murrrrrder Chimaev.
Bo’s bigger, stronger, faster, and more technical in every way with grappling
So for chimaev to win he has to throw a miracle punch
@@thomasjudy3580 a miracle punch. I’ve never heard so much crap in all my life. By that comment you clearly have zero idea what your on about
Think he alluded to this already.....at around 6 min
@@thomasjudy3580 u trolling, right?
I though Khamzat knocked Meerschaert out with a straight?
It doesn’t matter what you think! Uncle Chael’s recollection is absolute.
OP: He did bro but Chael doesn’t fact-check. If I had a dollar for every inaccuracy he’s stated in his videos over the past year then I’d be GameStop stonks-rich.
dont ever trust chael's facts. reality is,there almost 1% to none. watch it as entertainment and you will be allright
@@emmanueldixon2235 dude, you can GameStop stonks rich… just hodl
Chaels literally taking those Vegas sleep meds just to calm his excitement of the wrestling tournament he wants the ufc to become
Lmao!!!
AHAHAAHHA
The Ambien Assassin :D
No one, and i mean absolutely NOBODY tell Chael that Chimaevs 20 minutes of octagon time is 500% more experience than Bo's 2 minutes.
It’s actually %1,000 lol, but it’s still so little for KHAMZAT and basically nothing for Bo that the percentage stops mattering.
but 12:0 vs 3:0?
900% more
We all know know MMA math does and doesn't work. So go on, kick back and stretch back... Music soothes even the savage beast....
I was sold on Nickal after watching him suplex Gordon Ryan....
Well said bro. Give it time...Bo will became a champion in the very near future.
There wasn't a lot of air balls thrown by George St-Pierre LOL
Cael definitely did his job as a Coach with this young,talented guy. He’s prepared and honest, every day,not just on fight day. 😊
As someone who just made their amateur MMA debut, I would say 20 minutes especially matters during those first dives
This exact argument is why Charles is a lock for 280
I'm a debate Ph D student and my dissertation will be on how Chael has never lost an argument.
Lies & poppycock. I would debate him under the table EASILY because he NEVER fact-checks, which is why he’s so wrong about so much so frequently. It’s almost as if he’s unaware of the fact that Google and Wikipedia exist lol.
@@emmanueldixon2235 yikes
😆😅Calm down @@emmanueldixon2235 . Pretty sure he was being facetious.
😂🤣
@@cassiusdhami9215 really bro. No need to use a scholarly word just because your boyfriend said he’s got a phd…
@@emmanueldixon2235 i give 3:1 odds to chael sonnen. That means he dominates you.
If I had a nickel for every time Chael posts a Bo Nickal video, I'd have several dollars and it's still not enough
More like 20cents 😂 😭 👍
With inflation the way it is these days, I would have to charge you money for those nicklels.
Chael: we’re talking about 20 minutes in the octagon!
Me: yeah, being intentionally obtuse dismissing his prior record in other MMA organizations diminishes the argument.
Gsp and Matt Hughes is another great example. Or just gsp vs everybody. Lol
5:15 favorite argument intact. Experience is a threshold. The idea is Islam meets a standard considered “enough”. Let’s pretend those numbers were right. Charles’ % chg in mat time would be 300%, which is 4x longer. But we’ve seen a lot of his fighting style. And a good amount of Charles’ time is spent in losing fights.
Bo has 2.5 minutes mat time. For fun I’ll use your made up number of 20 minutes. Chimaev’s got a %delta mat time of 700%. That’s significantly greater than charles’ advantage over Islam and 100% of Chimaev’s time is in winning fights. Not to mention he’s went to hell and back with burns. So kind of a silly thought experiment to suggest Chimaev has no experience
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theres no point argue with chael. chael has zero fact-check to begin with, nor does he care about reality. he speak his desire on what he wanted thing to be. thats the only thing he can do as right now, talk, so he can enjoy the entertainment that it bring.
someone talk shit about BO
chael : so you choose death
Difference between Chimaev and Bo is the quality of the opponents we've seen them compete against. Wins on DWCS are not 1:1 with wins in the actual UFC.
Let's see Bo in a fight where he out strikes an opponent for a few rounds before we act like he's got great hands just because he landed a big overhand on an opponent solely focused on not getting taken down. I've seen Chimaev win two of those matches.
Tbh I don’t think anyone can last that long
Really? And which 2 fights did Hazmat Girikhanov “out strike an opponent for a few rounds”🤔
Let Bo fight a Dagestani wrester, we'll see how good you really is. Aliskerov is a fellow contender series winner and former Hamza's opponent. He's the right challenge for Bo
@@charlesnunley7187 Bo has beaten two nobodies. The overhand he landed was likely because the opponent was focused on not getting taken down.
Now, because he landed one good shot people are hyping him as the next big thing before seeing his standup, except for one punch.
I'm just saying I want to see more before I get on the hype train.
@@DR-ww7rx well for one…he is a USA Olympic wrestler. Everybody will be scared of that threat of a takedown. And the intensity he brings with everything he does imitates everything on how khamzat came up so why should the hype be the same if not higher.
Taking down Bo Nickal is a whole different discussion. Throughout his career Nickal was most known for his crazy hips. Someone securing a doble leg on him only meant that the other wrestler did the work of closing the distance. Bo would then end up with the takedown.
I would love to see that fight.
Chael just send Your Boo Bo some flowers and ask him out for a date. Sheeesh. How many ways can you talk about a guy who hasn’t fought literally anybody.
He’s one of the most accomplished athletes to ever enter MMA and he fought twice on DWCS and demolished both his opponents.
That’s interesting
OC sounds jealous. I'll send you some flowers, and forge Uncle Chael's signature if it'll make you feel better little buddy.
Dwcs not the ufc
@@isakdahl7875 This is the UFC, not DWCS
It’s not just 20 minutes. It’s months of preparation for 6 different fighters.
I don’t think Nickal vs Chimeav is too far fetched considering that Khamzat is unranked at 185. It’s either that or Paulo Costa
I would love to watch Costa send Bo to the shadow realm
@@cheezuschrist keep dreaming!
Chimaev Experiment is Back Baby. Anybody, Any Weight, on Short Notice.
Experience they're referring to is the 15 minute dog fight Khamzat had with one of the top 5 welterweights in the world. Sure they're only separated by 20 minutes but 15 of those 20 were spent fighting at the highest level in the sport.
Exactly. I know that Chael is stirring the pot but 15 min with Burns is invaluable experience.
Burns is a 155er that didn’t want to cut, Chimaev probably wont make welter again, let’s see him trade with a legit 185er before he’s the second coming. Burns is a dog, but he doesn’t hit like Potan or Costa
@@adamglumac8758 I can't wait to see him get smashed by Costa and the secret juice.
@@adamglumac8758
Costa got beaten by himself.
Dodging fights because “he got hurt on practice”.
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It is kinda like saying how Tony Ferguson is the hardest man in ufc, then he rips his knee apart, by tripping on a cord.
@@C0d0psI’m not sure what your point is. Costa needed surgery. You don’t fight you don’t get paid. I’m sure he isn’t dodging anything. Everyone saw him get destroyed by Izzy, and miss weight 5 times, no one expects much from Costa other than missing weight and getting beat up.
I love how Chael paused so he could come up with his mispronunciation for Meerschaert
20 minutes versus the best guys on earth doing MMA means a lot of experience compared to someone that had none
How many more YEARS are we going to talk about Bo vs Khamzat before it actually happens ?
He's about as right as the time he predicted that he wouldn't get knocked out by a head kick from Jones.
IMO Bo is probably the better wrestler, however I think Bo is in more danger if Khamzat takes him down opposed to the danger Khamzat would be in if Bo took him down.
My Argument that Bo is not ready is that he has no expirience in Far Distance Fights. Bo just learned the submission wrestling in.his wrestling career. And Daniel said it before... it is hard to.take down a goid striker a.d boxer
Chael’s crazy. Look at the past. Every time Khamzat fights someone with a significant wrestling/BJJ background he strikes more than he wrestles. That’s the plan every time. Bo would get starched right now. Bo needs more experience in the octagon, he’d get beat bad by anyone in the top 5 right now. No question lol
Bo would be favoured against cannonier or Alex pereira. Alex was controlled for a round by michaelaidas before he kod him.
@@brandonchong171 I think bo and Khamzat would both drown alex in a fight with their wrestling lol, I don’t see Alex winning except by punchers chance.
@@spiritualliving8318 a flying knee to Bo’s face says otherwise 😂
So your argument is Chimmy doesn't try to wrestle good wrestlers and that's a good thing? 🤔
@@danieldares2578 Not an argument bro, that’s the apparent strat lol
20 minutes difference in experience-fun argument to consider.
Chael Sonnen has the greatest mind, greatest logic, greatest choice of words to get his thoughts across and to back up his argument on pretty much any subject that chooses to debate on.
Burns is the experience, and his knockout with one punch in middleweight is his proof . Big L for Chael
unfortunately L + ratio
Experience only matters when it comes to getting to nervous and falling apart but that's it
As right now I don't see Bo beating chimaev as easy as he is trying to portrait. Chimaev has knock solid guys in the past like a Sambo champion who by the way was not able to take chimaev down. This is MMA not wrestling. We don't know if Bo can take a hard punch etc etc let's see.
Bro you’re wearing a mask in Yule profile pic. No one respects a man that’s scared of oxygen
I mean if he can do what khamzat does to people back to khamzat you never know. Hope he gets some more fights before hands but they are very similar match ups. I think it'll come down to who can get the position first
@@Derick99 totally agreed.
That 20 minutes point is actually really good
Guy can’t stop and wont stop
"What do you have to say now." Boom. Mic drop.
Бо Никал крутой мужик. Спасибо Чейл.
Bo has also never lost in the octagon…
Chael you are the goat
The only footage of bo I've seen striking is his two contender fights. He looked sharp and powerful but like khamzats first fights, he hardly got touched.
The experience difference from a fans standpoint like myself is we have seen khamzat get pushed and eat some nasty shots and continue moving forward in the burns fight.
Bo is one tough match away from everyone calling for him to fight khamzat IMO.
From a ufc business standpoint its silly to pair these guys up so early and take the hype away from the one who loses.
Only for casual it take away the hype just like the burns fight for khaz for true fans it's more intriguing. Tbh khazmat would win but it be the ultimate watching bo capable likely redemption. The sport is getting lost simply bc money exactly what u said is very true 👍. Hopefully they do fight fast, look at boxing exactly what happens there losses are everything to point they never fight each other in tjier whole carrers ..
@@paulclancy2404 yes but most fans are casual fans...
@@paulclancy2404 wannabe Khabib is nothing but a hype train. And if he beat burns he barely beat a lightweight.
@@paulclancy2404 I'd say 99.99% of wannabe Khabib fans r casuals.
Khamzat who has shown that he has issues making 170, he traded punches with a glorified 155er in Burns. Let’s see Chimaev trade with a real 185. Let’s see him eat a shot from Costa, Izzy, Potan before he gets anointed too
'I know the answer! I'm just wandering if you do' - the former UFC fighter goes on to not disclose the answer to his audience 🤣 absolutely undefeated
The experience comes from facing tougher guys and been pushed to the limits come on Chael you should know this
Chael has these kids punching the air
Chael “Everyone is entitled to my opinion” Sonnen
I say the amount of time has nothing to do with it. When Mike Tyson was on the rise and in his prime he was knocking people out in the first round while other Fighters were mostly getting decisions wins. Just because those other Fighters spent more time in the ring they still weren't favored over Mike Tyson that's spent a lot less time in the ring. I think Khamzat has more experience as in he fought different Fighters and more Fighters. All that counts big time and that he was able to put all of them but one away
Chimaev has 12 matches. That's at least 12 8week training camps.... that experience Chael. He's trained 6 times a day at mma for several years. That experience Chael. He's fought a top 3 contender and won...... that experience Chael.
He has not had 12 fights with 8 weeks for each camp... He fought 2 times in 10 days and you don't know how much training he did before each fight prior to UFC...
@Burger Kang You're right. Chimaev only claims to train 5 times a day during a training camp and 2 or 3 times a day when he doesn't have a fight.
fake news
Gonna break Chaels' Heart, when they Break Bo's jaw. This is a lot more than a Wrestling Match.
imagine thinking you know more than Chael he is always 100% correct
@@icomment7715 🤣🤣🤣I stand corrected🤣🤣
Make sure you remind Khabib and Islam of that too.
You do realize Bo is not just a wrestler he also has been boxing since the age of nine up to this date he still boxes also he held his own against Gordon Ryan
Dude....Chimeav is a very 2 dimensional fighter. Wrestle, strike.
Bo Nickle is on such a higher level of grappling than almost every other person in the UFC right now.
Chimaev is not going to even come close to Nickle on the ground.
If and when Bo and Chimaev fight, my money will need to multiply, so it goes on Bo to win. Chimaev struggled with Burns and Bo makes 2 of Burns, and has 10 times the cardio.
Let you know more by Sunday.
Thanks Chaell, Bo is calling out the Devil too early. Bo wants to ruin his beginning, well he will get the Devil
Wrestlers have a strong opinion about.........wrestlers.
Only uncle Chael can talk absolute bullshit for 7 minutes and still remain a fan favourite.
If mma was all about credentials whittaker and aldo would’ve been crushed by the wrestlers/grapplers in their divisions but instead turned out to be 2 of the best anti grapplers in the whole ufc whilst being mostly strikers
Chael it's not the 20 mins experience in the Octagon it's all the training in MMA leading up to the additional fights Khamzat has had. Khamzat has 5 times the fights but also more years in training specifically for MMA
That, and walking in the octagon with thousands of spectators, the trash talk, the media stirring *,...
Most guys lose their UFC debut and it's not just due to the level of opposition.
@@sylver76 op was right your points moot. Bos fought at full capacity MSG. pressure, crowds & lights he has years of experience in.
what a great point 20 min isnt anything
4:39 Myyy Goodness 😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Uncle chael i lovs u.
Daniel is correct. It's one thing to beat cans, whom you're meant to beat. It's quite another, with all that Chimaev can add into the mix, to beat a top contender in MMA.
Very good of Daniel to reference himself and who he struggled to take down. That's proper honesty.
Uncle Chael, Anthony Smith said "Bo Nickal is in MMA is because he wasn't good enough to make an Olympic team." He then continued "The guys ahead of him in the two weight classes he just can't beat those two guys."
Bo is undoubtedly great, but let's see him fight a Top 10 guy - Jack Hermansson at 8 or Brunson at 5 - before we ride another hype train. 😎👊
Experience isn’t necessarily time, it can be quality of opponents. Khamzat has beaten ranked opponents whilst Bo has not.
Reality : Khamzat has total 30minute octagon time in ufc , with total 51 minute octagon time with 12-0
Chael's fantasy world : hazmat had 20 minute
I'd have to say good point
Bo will find out there's a difference between the wrestling he knows and what them guys from other parts of the world do while training (MMA wrestling) ...Hype train will end fast if they set that match up.
Forsure they probably saucey too not hating
Im always going to watch a Chael Bo Nickal video
Wrestling and MMA are different sports. You use wrestling in MMA but you never truly just wrestle. That’s the beauty of the sport. It’s like how boxers are great at boxing but if they transition to MMA they will have to change the way they box. Because they’ll rarely ever purely box an opponent.
I can tell you this. Bo won't get taken down on the glove tap to start the fight like Holland was.
Ikram vs Nickal! thats the fight to watch
Fighters doing grappling tournaments to get a practice of making weight and travel and warming up and being in front of a crowd.
Chael Sonnen
Bo did 4 techniques within 15 seconds in his last fight that you would have never been able to do. And he finished it.
I don’t think anyone’s wrestling was better than Matt Hughes. Hell he beat a train. The goat in my book and never talked about
You got kamaru vs Colby kamaru vs tyron woodley kamaru d2 wrestler beating d1 top dawgs you gotta think of these things.
Chael, if you knock someone out they fall to the ground and are taken "off of their feet".
My favorite takedown is head kick knock out lbs
Lots of people know Bo is a great Wrestler but few know he has also been in boxing since he was 9m
on this note, hey Chael can we go back to this 4 years from now and on an episode can you give us 3 to 5 prospects you would predict will win the title or fight for a UFC,BELLATOR,ONE OR PFL Championship ..... can you do an episode with a prediction
Chimaev has the experience of fighting Gilbert burns in an absolute war. He also fought really good guys outside the UFC. He also has made the walk several more times. His striking is better too if we are talking Xs and Os
Cormier always has to bring up himself into every conversation, no matter what the topic. Someone can be talking about cars, and he will bring up his titles and accomplishments.
20 min compared to 0 min is exponentially worse than 2hrs vs 30min.
Called bro merchant🤣🤣 so disrespectful
Hamzat would ragdoll DC
I’d like to see Bo vs khamzat. But I believe khamzat deserves a title shot 1st
Chimaev fought Burns so there is your experience
Great point, though.
Chael said it on chaels day at chaels time when someone speaks the truth we don't call them facts we call them Chael , speak Chael or forever hold your chael
Unc you got a point ,I personally say bo is ready but I don't think Its his time yet exp. Not so much the issue it's a big risk if bo wins he's confirmed his stance that he's top of his weight class if he looses that's a hard one to cme off of in this early of a stage in bo's career I wanna see that match maybe just not yet in a year or two so that if he looses it don't harm his stock and name as much as he will in the next two yrs establish himself and a name guaranteed
The war against Gilbert would give the biggest edge 🤔
how did everyone missed the opportunity to give him “Bio Nickal” nickname
I think once u have a few fights against the elite fighters 20 mins does matter you def need some experience in the UFC to be proven. Bo hasn't fought someone like Kevin Holland who he disposed of easily but also and more importantly showed heart against one of the best welterweights in Gilbert burns. Before that he made some of the best in the world look like they weren't even professionals. I'd actually pick bo to win but I agree he needs a fight in the UFC to see where he's really at.
Comparing those 2 is disrespectful. AT THIS MOMENT, Chimaev would beat Nickal in the first round easily. Bo needs to improve in other areas. In fact, Gilbert Burns would beat Bo easily. It’s just an absurd comparison AT THIS MOMENT.