this is one of the most amazing thing i am seeing this year, and it has really challenged my thinking and outlook of things, complex adaptive systems will change everything, absolutely everything if we can implement it in various aspects of our lives. Everyone needs to watch this for sure.
With the growing of knowledge of complex systems, the realization that complex systems exist literally everywhere will too. With that realization will come the ability to understand and manipulate our world with precision and awareness previously unheard of. Everything's going to change. Everything.
***** All models are wrong, but some are useful. The worst thing I can imagine is a "cure-all", I hope this adventure of discovery and invention of better models continues forever. We may be capable of understanding what we have never previously understood, but that doesn't mean we'll understand it all, because there's just so much to understand.
+A certain Ghork I agree. I think that this type of knowledge is extremely important to developing an understanding of our modern world and knowledge structures! It's knowledge of knowledge. It's extremely powerful. I'm obsessed with systems theory, homeokinetics, emergent properties and the like for the reasons you listed above. These systems are fractal, pervasive.
we can all model some of these systems in our society to make a little difference and this is more about mapping or modelling or framing it is more about shifting in our self, knowing our self more, thinking about this video about co evolutionary process for modelling so I love this video from this engineer from Delft University
Nice overview of complexity science concepts, sensitivity to initial conditions, agent based modelling etc, but was the 'mystical' music (or any music) really necessary?
Not necessarily. Read up on forest fires in the US and the California electricity market spikes. In both cases the legislators were confident in their legislation, but they fell victims to the system dynamics.
So essentially there is nothing to stop the current model of say political governance by a rigid hierarchy... from being replaced with a bottom up model based on something like a social network? And although (in my hypothetical government idea) it would make mistakes, over time it would bootstrap itself to solutions that our current systems can't do because of its rigid linear top down structure?
One huge bottleneck to Progress is the Dunbar Number, it limits how the dimensions of data, and thus the information, that any one person can access and process. Could we increase this?
Depends how you look at it. A way to increase this in a sense is by getting people together in a different way. With relation to agent based modelling or other kinds of simulation modelling this can take the shape of participatory modelling processes where groups of people build a model, allowing for integration of more kinds of information. Here you could have multiple parties send a representative to focus on a small topic. You discuss main lines of what should be modelled. These people then go back to their own respective organisation to conceptualise their own piece of the pie further or even model it as a sub-model, to be used in a multi-model ecology. Here they can use the information pool and processing from colleagues. If each representative does this the representatives only need to know each other to create a simulation of a large socio technical system with a lot of detail and thought behind it from a small army of people.
if u listen closely he says that when you turn on a switch that the power plants come on and begin to generate electricity where it is then pumped to your house....i know it was a mistake but still stupid
We can't know whether the universe is alive or not, any more than we can prove the existence of a god. The dichotomy of if its dead exploit it and if its alive worship it seems too confined. We need to balance both impulses.
"Life is a characteristic distinguishing physical entities having biological processes (such as signaling and self-sustaining processes) from those that do not." The definition of life has great variance and isn't very solidified. However comparing some of the systems discussed in the video with that definition they seam to be alive (or at least and more importantly life like). If we can model some of these systems as complex adaptive systems then we can use such models to simulate and emulate; Thus giving us tools to predict, make well informed modifications and grasp a better understanding of such systems. Its not about if the system is alive or dead that is being discussed, its whether the rules that govern agents create the complex systems of the universe which can not be defined by solid rules at any level of abstraction other then the agents themselves.
this is one of the most amazing thing i am seeing this year, and it has really challenged my thinking and outlook of things, complex adaptive systems will change everything, absolutely everything if we can implement it in various aspects of our lives. Everyone needs to watch this for sure.
This is a great tool to introduce the concept of complex systems to leaders within organizations.
With the growing of knowledge of complex systems, the realization that complex systems exist literally everywhere will too. With that realization will come the ability to understand and manipulate our world with precision and awareness previously unheard of. Everything's going to change. Everything.
*****
All models are wrong, but some are useful. The worst thing I can imagine is a "cure-all", I hope this adventure of discovery and invention of better models continues forever. We may be capable of understanding what we have never previously understood, but that doesn't mean we'll understand it all, because there's just so much to understand.
+A certain Ghork I agree. I think that this type of knowledge is extremely important to developing an understanding of our modern world and knowledge structures! It's knowledge of knowledge. It's extremely powerful. I'm obsessed with systems theory, homeokinetics, emergent properties and the like for the reasons you listed above. These systems are fractal, pervasive.
I recently discovered this insight after several transformations in thinking. Incredible
"Manipulate"? What could go wrong?!
Oh wow, THANK YOU for this wonderful talk.
the visual aid helps dramatically creating an image viewers like me, with limited scientific knowledge, can respond to.
we can all model some of these systems in our society to make a little difference and this is more about mapping or modelling or framing it is more about shifting in our self, knowing our self more, thinking about this video about co evolutionary process for modelling so I love this video from this engineer from Delft University
The background music playing from 13:40 on-wards is a killer.Track ID please!
Need to watch this one again to get the most out of it.
loved the early spring snap of 2008, brilliant talk also.
Enjoyed this. Thanks for posting.
cool. but what exactly was the web near the end?
Nice overview of complexity science concepts, sensitivity to initial conditions, agent based modelling etc, but was the 'mystical' music (or any music) really necessary?
what is the animation at 7:10 called- the idea of visualizing possibilities like that is amazing!
Data visualization ? Creative Coding ? Maybe both but these are just suggestions for I am not sure about what is it called
I partly disagree because even though there is feedback mechanism (or should be) the ones who are in control are the ones who legislate laws.
Not necessarily. Read up on forest fires in the US and the California electricity market spikes. In both cases the legislators were confident in their legislation, but they fell victims to the system dynamics.
So essentially there is nothing to stop the current model of say political governance by a rigid hierarchy... from being replaced with a bottom up model based on something like a social network?
And although (in my hypothetical government idea) it would make mistakes, over time it would bootstrap itself to solutions that our current systems can't do because of its rigid linear top down structure?
where could i find these visuals? i plan on doing a presentation similar to this project, and would be very grateful if i could have access to this :)
How had things changed so far
One huge bottleneck to Progress is the Dunbar Number, it limits how the dimensions of data, and thus the information, that any one person can access and process. Could we increase this?
Depends how you look at it. A way to increase this in a sense is by getting people together in a different way.
With relation to agent based modelling or other kinds of simulation modelling this can take the shape of participatory modelling processes where groups of people build a model, allowing for integration of more kinds of information. Here you could have multiple parties send a representative to focus on a small topic. You discuss main lines of what should be modelled. These people then go back to their own respective organisation to conceptualise their own piece of the pie further or even model it as a sub-model, to be used in a multi-model ecology. Here they can use the information pool and processing from colleagues. If each representative does this the representatives only need to know each other to create a simulation of a large socio technical system with a lot of detail and thought behind it from a small army of people.
THIS COMMENT SECTION BELONGS TO MARCHEV & MARCHEV & THEIR BRILLIANT STUDENTS !!!
It could be seen as an artistic performance !
Let me suggest the talks by Jeremy Rifkin, "The Third Industrial Revolution."
if u listen closely he says that when you turn on a switch that the power plants come on and begin to generate electricity where it is then pumped to your house....i know it was a mistake but still stupid
Holy Cow.
Is Igor the son of Danko?
We can't know whether the universe is alive or not, any more than we can prove the existence of a god. The dichotomy of if its dead exploit it and if its alive worship it seems too confined. We need to balance both impulses.
"Life is a characteristic distinguishing physical entities having biological processes (such as signaling and self-sustaining processes) from those that do not." The definition of life has great variance and isn't very solidified. However comparing some of the systems discussed in the video with that definition they seam to be alive (or at least and more importantly life like). If we can model some of these systems as complex adaptive systems then we can use such models to simulate and emulate; Thus giving us tools to predict, make well informed modifications and grasp a better understanding of such systems. Its not about if the system is alive or dead that is being discussed, its whether the rules that govern agents create the complex systems of the universe which can not be defined by solid rules at any level of abstraction other then the agents themselves.
wtf? you must have been looking at a different video...
Theories of how God created the heavens and the Earth are fun.
pssst.... p =/= np
Yet? ;)
Ted Talks are one of the worst things I've ever been forced to watch change my mind.