Star Wars: Dark Forces Remaster (2024) REVIEW

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  • Опубліковано 6 січ 2025

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  • @Koborover
    @Koborover 10 місяців тому +380

    Before Disney changed it to Cassian Andor and "Jyn Erso", it was Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors who were sent to get the Death Star plans.
    Fun fact: In the Andor TV series (great show btw), Cassian Andor carries the Bryar pistol used by Kyle Katarn in this 1995 game.

    • @adambomber3384
      @adambomber3384 10 місяців тому +27

      it's not actually the same model of Bryar pistol. it's morseo based on the Battlefront 2015 take on the Bryar model, which in turn was inspired by that game. it also added a rotating cylinder for reloads in Andor

    • @dboygamer8184
      @dboygamer8184 10 місяців тому +52

      Rogue One was still a good story.
      I had no problems with Jyn Erso she had legit a true struggling background story.

    • @boblowes
      @boblowes 10 місяців тому +31

      Before Dark Forces, it was covered in the Star Wars radio play. So it's not the first time it's been retconned. There's also that PSP game where Kyle Katarn employs a Twi'lek agent and her droid to steal the plans as well.

    • @dboygamer8184
      @dboygamer8184 10 місяців тому +11

      @@boblowes Star Wars Lethal Alliance. Yeah she was cute

    • @jangofett7421
      @jangofett7421 10 місяців тому +19

      Jyn Erso - Jan Ors omg how did it take this long for me to see this 😮

  • @ebestul84
    @ebestul84 10 місяців тому +221

    A Dark Forces 2 - Jedi Knight remaster would be AMAZING!

    • @bones2015ify
      @bones2015ify 10 місяців тому +7

      Def coming !

    • @Fastwinstondoom
      @Fastwinstondoom 10 місяців тому +18

      If this does well I think Jedi Knight is pretty much a given...

    • @Motorheadache95
      @Motorheadache95 10 місяців тому +15

      Yeah I bought this remaster right away- mostly because I wanted to play it, but also to vote with my wallet that we want them to continue with Jedi Knight.

    • @bbb462cid
      @bbb462cid 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Fastwinstondoom The first one. Without the dinosaur.

    • @stormykeep9213
      @stormykeep9213 10 місяців тому +5

      Oh yeah! I miss some good 'ol Canyon Oasis death match!

  • @achriscilley3965
    @achriscilley3965 10 місяців тому +202

    Some of my FONDEST memories of being a kid in the 90's, was playing this game. I'll never forget the very first time I was introduced to Dark Forces. My neighbor got it for his birthday and called me over to check it out. We must have sat in his room on that computer taking turns for at least 2 or 3 days straight.
    I can still remember his Dad walking in his room and asking us if we had slept the night before. And his surprised look when my friend told him we had stayed up for the past two nights playing on the computer. 🤣 Good times!
    Sadly, my friend is no longer with us. Every time I see this game, I'm reminded of him and all the great times we had playing it together. 🥲
    Thanks for the stroll down memory lane Jason. I needed a smile today. 🤜🤛

    • @VideInfra
      @VideInfra 10 місяців тому +1

      What happened to your friend?

    • @EDFCentral
      @EDFCentral 10 місяців тому +9

      ​@@VideInfraHe died. That's all we need to know.

    • @EDFCentral
      @EDFCentral 10 місяців тому +5

      Also, I had a friend like that as well. We went to see the Star Wars movies when they were re-released back in the 90's. We both were so excited to go see them. I remember after seeing one of them he asked me to drive him by his grandmothers house so he could get his copy of Rebel Assault for PC. He was in the Star Wars frame of mind that day. He too passed back in 2011, and he will forever be linked to my Star Wars memories.

    • @RUFU58
      @RUFU58 10 місяців тому +1

      Me and my friend did the same with this game and so many others. Unreal was one of the other ones we stayed up for nights playing and drinking Dr Pepper. Great times indeed. I’m sorry to hear about your friend. ❤️ 🕊️

    • @randybobandy9828
      @randybobandy9828 10 місяців тому +1

      Sorry this game looks terrible

  • @sullister
    @sullister 10 місяців тому +66

    Dusting off my SoundBlaster 16.

  • @kazuhirala
    @kazuhirala 10 місяців тому +91

    Those 90s Star Wars game covers are work of art. It really did a fantastic job in sucking you into the galaxy

  • @gateofmarvel565
    @gateofmarvel565 10 місяців тому +126

    Still waiting for a Rogue Squadron trilogy remaster...

    • @BloodRedFox2008
      @BloodRedFox2008 10 місяців тому +5

      I think Aspyr is more likely to handle that series. The question then would be if it’s a remaster like they did with Tomb Raider 1-3, or an upressed port like they did with Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. I’d like Rogue Squadron to get the Tomb Raider treatment, but honestly I’m someone who wouldn’t complain too much about just simply getting a collection that simply just ups the resolution to 1080 and higher. Also if Rogue Squadron gets a modern collection release, I’d love to also have Battle for Naboo included. That game was the only dedicated Prequel game Factor 5 made and it slightly bums me they never fully revisited that setting (closet we got to a revisit of the Prequels was when they did include a level in RS3 that saw Wedge land on Geonosis and pilot Obi Wans Jedi star fighter after dealing with some separatist droids that were still functioning).

    • @majorgear1021
      @majorgear1021 10 місяців тому +2

      Emperor Palpatine will return 3-4 more times before that happens.
      “Somehow, he’s back”

    • @gateofmarvel565
      @gateofmarvel565 10 місяців тому

      @@majorgear1021 I'd call that a new hope then as the last bonus mission from the first game is taken straight from the "Dark Empire" comic in which Palpatine made a return as a clone. We're covered on that end... And since we're still getting a fair amount of old games making a comeback in remaster form, I'd say its a safe bet overall. I just won't put money in Vegas on it, but I may on the pre-order.

    • @DisasterMaster3K
      @DisasterMaster3K 10 місяців тому +5

      Shadow of the empire

    • @trashaimgamer7822
      @trashaimgamer7822 10 місяців тому

      Right. Hope they implement a checkpoint system instead of lives though.

  • @greggvictorious968
    @greggvictorious968 10 місяців тому +12

    Official Star Wars is whatever Disney says it is. Authentic Star Wars is everything before the sale of Lucasfilm. You can't buy authenticity.

  • @OneTrueNobody
    @OneTrueNobody 10 місяців тому +46

    For the soundtrack, it seems like they went for a soundfont that emulates what a more high-end PC of the time would have used. The thing about a lot of the DOSbox releases of old games is that they often choose to emulate a more basic sound card that *most* players would have had in their PC at the time rather than the higher-end stuff that the more dedicated PC users of the day would have favored; this leaves players of today to find and implement external soundcard emulation manually if they want that experience, which can be tricky to pull off.

    • @umeng2002
      @umeng2002 10 місяців тому +3

      Yes, when I played with the Force Engine, it also had that option with multiple high-end sound cards of the era. You can also download soundfonts and have the Force Engine use those instead of the built-in ones. MIDI was quite a wild west.

    • @fossilfern
      @fossilfern 10 місяців тому +5

      Though the SC55/88 was the Gold Standard, I was quite partial to the Yamaha MU80. Does anyone know where to download an MU80 soundfont ? You can replace the sound font in the files of the remaster but it obviously won’t fix the out of sync music. It seems a little too fast.

    • @slaapliedje
      @slaapliedje 10 місяців тому +3

      I have an SC-88 Pro hooked up to my Linux desktop where I was making slow progress through the original Dark Forces with the beautiful MIDI music from it. Now, I am wondering if the Remaster will sound as good.

    • @fossilfern
      @fossilfern 10 місяців тому +1

      @@slaapliedje the remaster is still good but the music can be a bit annoying but it’s not terrible. Hope they patch the music issue.

    • @BrandonBlume
      @BrandonBlume 10 місяців тому +1

      @iedjeIt'd be fantastic if they offered a MIDI Output option for the music so we can use our own gear or drivers if we have it. But that's not going to happen. The SC-55 soundfont they're using is pretty close, but not perfect (no soundfont can be). As for the OPL3 (FM synth) emulation, I can't tell so far if they've used different OPL instruments (they've done this before with ROTT LE) or if they're just using a different OPL emulation core.

  • @jimbones0
    @jimbones0 10 місяців тому +25

    Yes, you could turn off the head-bob effect in the original version. You could also turn off the hud and holster your weapon. All of these functions were assigned to the F function keys on the keyboard (F1-F8) but it’s been so long I can’t recall which ones. Very innovative at the time. 👍

  • @Seether-jt6mo
    @Seether-jt6mo 10 місяців тому +21

    Watching your channel is like getting into a really deep game where you have to constantly go on the wiki to find out how to unlock certain items or have the best builds, then go on youtube & find a bunch of videos of how people are playing it.
    Basically what I'm saying is your channel has a really warm feel to it & it makes me have a deeper love & respect for video games & all the equipment that goes along with it

  • @dtruong926
    @dtruong926 10 місяців тому +8

    Thanks so much for posting this! The sheer amount of nostalgia I'm getting flooded with while watching is bringing tears to my eyes. These old Star Wars games that ran in DOS were amazing. I remember my friends and I collecting all of them and absolutely loving the heck out of the Dark Forces series, especially Jedi Knight. We were so hungry for new lore that we would sit through the FMV scenes in both of the Rebel Assault games and we absolutely devoured the story in the Tie Fighter Collector's Edition Strategy Guide. I have a bunch of them now in my Steam collection and need to find time to both revisit them and pick up this new remaster.

  • @J.Wick.
    @J.Wick. 10 місяців тому +7

    I remember beating this game over a weekend on a PS1. Believe I was sick that week/end, and my Dad made the weekly journey to the local rental store for me. He rented this and a couple movies. I was hooked on this game. Happy to see this get a proper revisit.

  • @RandomDudeFromSomewhere
    @RandomDudeFromSomewhere 10 місяців тому +5

    I think the head-bobbing in the original game was called "Head Wave" and *could* be disabled -- at least, in the DOS version.

  • @aforce82
    @aforce82 10 місяців тому +29

    Probably my second favorite Star Wars game after TIE Fighter. Lucasarts was killing it in the 90's.

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  10 місяців тому +9

      Agreed! Love me some Tie Fighter too!

    • @clivepotts1273
      @clivepotts1273 10 місяців тому

      Gotta be one of my favourite star wars games, 90s FPS were great

  • @nvmskullworks4794
    @nvmskullworks4794 10 місяців тому +10

    the skating effect from games without headbob is what gets me.

  • @forsaken_tcg
    @forsaken_tcg 10 місяців тому +34

    I love the pixel style of the OG Version more

    • @electricmiragemedia
      @electricmiragemedia 10 місяців тому +6

      Agreed. I think it looks a little strange with the high res work - like the world is a bit more lifeless?

    • @Dappydoo
      @Dappydoo 10 місяців тому +5

      Bizarre take. What would even be the point in leaving it blurry and blocky

    • @forsaken_tcg
      @forsaken_tcg 10 місяців тому +7

      @@Dappydoo cause retro style, you know, also known as boomer shooter ^^

    • @MrThecrazyzombie
      @MrThecrazyzombie 10 місяців тому +2

      You can change it in settings

    • @George-um2vc
      @George-um2vc 10 місяців тому

      Next version far better, so many upgrade over the original, HUGE W for this remaster.

  • @NonApplicableRecords
    @NonApplicableRecords 10 місяців тому +3

    I am still hoping and praying for X-Wing and Tie Fighter remasters/rereleases! I also really wish they would fix the controls on Bounty Hunter as well, SO annoying!

  • @breeze1138
    @breeze1138 10 місяців тому +11

    Star Wars X-Wing is the reason I added a Roland SC-55 Sound Canvas to my computer. I'm glad they have that version, that's how I remember the music for Dark Forces! Just wish we got a discount for owning the original Steam version. At least there's a discount for owning Battlefront 1 and 2 classics when the SWBF collection comes out.

    • @RandomDudeFromSomewhere
      @RandomDudeFromSomewhere 10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for mentioning SWBF collection, I hadn't heard of it.

    • @breeze1138
      @breeze1138 10 місяців тому

      I just noticed that there is a 10% discount for owning the original on Steam. I bought it!

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 10 місяців тому

      Back then all audio was crab, midi sounds.......
      compressed or Flac better ?????

  • @jcrebel18
    @jcrebel18 10 місяців тому +2

    12:29 You're correct that Kyle Katarn is no longer a part of Disney's canon, however Cassian Andor is heavily inspired by Katarn as evidenced by the fact he has the same pistol in Andor that Katarn has in the games, albeit it does not look exactly the same obviously.

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 10 місяців тому

      Muhahaha, Patme, Nathalie Portman dolls, she is not it ????
      FCK THAT HARD !

  • @kevinhardy8997
    @kevinhardy8997 10 місяців тому +8

    That elevator puzzle stumped me. Genius puzzle design.

    • @Anguawolf007
      @Anguawolf007 10 місяців тому

      ...for a game. If this were a real world scenario, the workers would be so confused and inefficient.

  • @TyroClint
    @TyroClint 9 місяців тому +1

    I love the switch between original n remaster feature, so I can see what they have changed or improved anywhere in the game. Im using it a lot on the Tomb Raider remastered trilogy

  • @TheMcrico84
    @TheMcrico84 10 місяців тому +19

    I would love for devs to start doing this with games like
    Dino crisis 1 and 2
    Re 1 and 2, code veronica
    Parasite eve 1 and 2
    Silent hill
    They could make so much money and we would be so happy

    • @damn5987
      @damn5987 10 місяців тому +2

      Resident evil 1 & 2 have a makeover via the seameless HD project, and RE1 was also remastered

    • @KonniBel
      @KonniBel 10 місяців тому

      Read that Parasite Eve can't happy because it was based on something and they were not happy with the games...

    • @TheMcrico84
      @TheMcrico84 10 місяців тому +1

      @@damn5987 im talking about the original just like tomb raider 1 2 and 3

    • @damn5987
      @damn5987 10 місяців тому +1

      @@TheMcrico84 RE1 and RE2 (and RE3) in the seameless HD project are the original versions

    • @AbstractM0use
      @AbstractM0use 10 місяців тому +1

      Well, they did do RE2. Definitely want a Silent Hill remake. I played it a lot when it was new back in the day, but last time I tried it, it's very dated and looks bad, graphics-wise. Most retro games' dated graphics don't bother me, but that one does. I'd just love to see it in HD glory with what they can do with lighting and shadows now.

  • @robross0606
    @robross0606 10 місяців тому +1

    I really hope we see a mod community popup around this. It is a huge missed opportunity to not include optional ray tracing or bump maps which could really make this pop. I’ll bet AI could have a field day reproducing these textures too.

  • @arkham006
    @arkham006 10 місяців тому +40

    This was an instant purchase for me! Love old school FPS games

    • @purefoldnz3070
      @purefoldnz3070 10 місяців тому +4

      at $43 it was an instant no buy for me!

    • @thomascarluccio7099
      @thomascarluccio7099 10 місяців тому

      $43 is a lot of money to you lmao sad life you have. Maybe you just a cheap ass hat@@purefoldnz3070

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 10 місяців тому +1

      i bought it in 1997, remastered ? It's still old...

  • @cinnabarsin4288
    @cinnabarsin4288 10 місяців тому +3

    Oh man, I can barely think of a time when video game motion made me have a physical reaction but at 2:24 where the mouse look makes the skybox and geometry warp and move really gave me a nasty moment of motion sickness.

  • @Pixelmusement
    @Pixelmusement 10 місяців тому +1

    Are you sure you're thinking about Rebel Assault and not X-Wing? Rebel Assault (and its sequel) were the FMV games which yeah, they look and sound cool, but their controls were kinda abysmal. :P

  • @BrandonBlume
    @BrandonBlume 10 місяців тому

    7:30 That's not the Sound Canvas. That's Adlib/OPL3. The Sound Canvas facsimile soundfont is the General MIDI option.

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  10 місяців тому

      Nightdive Studios pushed out a patch that changed the music. Who knows what it will sound like tomorrow. 😂 They are trying to address that timing issue reviewers reported, so perhaps this is evolving.

    • @BrandonBlume
      @BrandonBlume 10 місяців тому

      @@MetalJesusRocksThe patch fixed the MIDI note jittering issue (to a degree. it's not totally fixable as I understand it because of the way the timing clock was programmed deep in the engine code for DOS). But the music options didn't change. The SC-55 Sound Canvas is a PCM synthesizer module with realistic sounding instruments. OPL3 is Adlib (FM synthesis). Two entirely different things. Just pointing out that either you misunderstood the explanation NightDive gave you or NightDive misunderstood your question as their answer addressed something different. Or I'm misunderstanding what you said in the video lol. But you played back OPL music after talking about the SC-55 so just want to make sure you and other viewers understood what the SC-55 actually is.
      The General MIDI option uses the SC-55 soundfont and the OPL3 option uses Adlib/OPL3 emulation. Since Adlib is also emulated in DOSBox I suspect the difference lies in the OPL emulation core used. There are a number of OPL emulation cores available, some are more accurate at the cost of performance and others vice versa. DOSBox's is one of the easier on performance. Others like the "Nuked" OPL core strive to be as accurate as possible and so take up more resources to output. I don't know which one NightDive uses but it's obviously different from the DOSBox one. Or the patches are different from the original DOS version (wouldn't be the first time, they also used different OPL voices for ROTT Ludicrous Edition which didn't match the DOS original either).

  • @philippeamon7271
    @philippeamon7271 10 місяців тому

    Jason Lewis started putting together a gorgeous Unreal5 remake a couple of years ago. The videos are still on his youtube channel, but no recent news about that project.

  • @zolyguy
    @zolyguy 10 місяців тому +2

    Now we need Dark Forces 2 jedi knight + mysteries of the sith. that game has never been released on consoles and is absolutely incredible.

    • @MrAvenger1975
      @MrAvenger1975 10 місяців тому

      It is. And the most difficult of the 4 Dark Forces games.

  • @bobtinney5368
    @bobtinney5368 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m 53 now, but I played this game on my first PC, I believe it was a Windows 2000. I immediately fell in love with it. I never played a Doom style game before, so I was surprised how much fun it was. I still own the original game CIB, but I’m excited to play the remaster soon. Great video!

  • @mlmmt
    @mlmmt 10 місяців тому +10

    I played the original on PS1 to death, I remember that game so much!

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 10 місяців тому

      mum gave it ?
      why no PC ?

  • @SuperNicktendo
    @SuperNicktendo 10 місяців тому +4

    I didn't even know you could look up or down in this game. Goes to show you how many times I just jumped into a game without looking at the manual first

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  10 місяців тому +1

      You don't really need to look up or down in the original as the auto-targeting is pretty forgiving...but yeah... it's there if you wanted it LOL

  • @thomasbaldiscola4671
    @thomasbaldiscola4671 10 місяців тому +1

    One of my favs back in the day. Dark Forces, Tie Fighter, & Rebel Assault 2 where my JAMS on my old Compaq! Take my money!

  • @jasonbladex
    @jasonbladex 10 місяців тому +1

    Omg when I was tinkering with the original steam release I tried desperately to figure out how to run dark forces with roland sc55 audio on my modern pc. I had no luck. So glad they used that for this release.

  • @SeafoodKilla1
    @SeafoodKilla1 10 місяців тому +5

    gotta love all the ADLIB/SOUNDBLASTERY goodness of the midi soundtracks from back then

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 10 місяців тому

      General midi crab you need ?
      why stick in the past, why you need that now ?

  • @Captain_Sarcastic
    @Captain_Sarcastic 10 місяців тому

    I have the Moldy Crow on my wall, from the Star Wars X-Wing miniature game, which I have never played, or even opened the box.
    Could you really use Page Up and Page Down to look up and down? I thought there was NO way to look up and down when I originally played this in 1995. Was there a way to look up and down in Doom?
    I would love to see a remaster of Mysteries of the Sith. I thought it was a great game, as you got to fight along side rebels, against an army of Stormtrooper, storming a rebel base. Also there was a section where you had to call on an R2 unit to help you through the mission. Those are two experiences I always wanted, after seeing the original Star Wars films. Mysteries of the Sith, was lacking a bit in the graphics department, especially since they used the game engine for the cut scenes, but the graphics just looked awkward.

  • @Hi_MyNameIsRyan
    @Hi_MyNameIsRyan 10 місяців тому +7

    This is awesome! I really hope they do remasters for Jedi Knight and Mysteries of the Sith.

  • @cliftongardner4367
    @cliftongardner4367 10 місяців тому +4

    Loved this game as a kid, I have the steam version but it just felt antiquated and frustrating to control when I went back to it a few years ago. This looks absolutely amazing and I cannot WAIT to play through a quality Nightdive take on this one.

  • @noahgraeme
    @noahgraeme 10 місяців тому +6

    Honestly... the Star Wars Universe after ROTJ and before TPM... was the absolute best. Will die on this hill all day 🤘🏻

    • @Kdkdkikdk
      @Kdkdkikdk 10 місяців тому

      Yes! Star Wars in the 90s got a special place in our hearts

    • @Motorheadache95
      @Motorheadache95 10 місяців тому +1

      I agree. There was something a bit more special about it back then, before all the Special Editions, prequels, Clone Wars cartoons, etc. It was just three classic movies and a few novels, comics, and games.

    • @woodsie315
      @woodsie315 7 місяців тому

      I'll die on that hill right there with you. It's never been the same since.

    • @Walamonga1313
      @Walamonga1313 5 місяців тому +2

      Sorry but KOTOR 1 and 2 are peak Star Wars

    • @noahgraeme
      @noahgraeme 5 місяців тому

      @@Walamonga1313 A fine edition, I'll say.

  • @rafaelbrito9519
    @rafaelbrito9519 10 місяців тому +2

    I remember being 8 and watching my dad play this and shadows of the empire on the windows 98, it was mindblowing to play something 3d at the time, I didnt play this much, but I played a lot of shadows of empire, had a blast, the water level creeped me out, specially the boss, good times

  • @CymruJedi
    @CymruJedi 10 місяців тому +1

    Extremely well edited and nicely spoken review. Well done on this one

  • @DanielBrown-nb9zz
    @DanielBrown-nb9zz 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm glad that the first thing you mention is the fact that old FPS games where you look up and down were actually basically rubbish! (In my own words)... I love to play all my fps on PC with mouselook now when available!

  • @noahl8634
    @noahl8634 9 місяців тому +1

    Still holding out for a physical console version (hopefully switch but I'm not too picky)

  • @ScruffyLookinRGB
    @ScruffyLookinRGB 10 місяців тому +5

    Oh my goodness i forgot all about this game. Great review I'll have to check it out.

  • @silverian
    @silverian 10 місяців тому +6

    Great to see Remaster version!

  • @alterbr33d
    @alterbr33d 10 місяців тому

    2:38 You can't change the control bindings to Legacy controls. If you set the left stick to turn, and the right stick to strafe, what will happen is it will have both turn and strafe at the same time on the left stick and on the right stick. Its an old game that allows you to revert to old graphics, so I think it should allow for the old 90s controls, and also that's how my brain is wired still.

  • @HenryKrinkle81
    @HenryKrinkle81 10 місяців тому +6

    Alllll I want is a Shadows of the Empire remaster that's a lot like this one.

    • @adamsultana8380
      @adamsultana8380 10 місяців тому +2

      Exactly, it's almost like that game is forgotten amongst developers....

    • @Motorheadache95
      @Motorheadache95 10 місяців тому +1

      A remaster would be great- ideally using the PC version, but add the option to use the N64 artwork cutscenes, which I thought were much better than the atrocious CG cutscenes in the PC version.

  • @115spt2
    @115spt2 9 місяців тому +1

    I bought the dos version on Steam years ago, and I couldn't even get past the first level due to the clunky controls and blurry visuals. With this remaster I plowed thought that first level and now I'm on the 6th level (taking my time with the game)
    Best star wars fps.

    • @115spt2
      @115spt2 9 місяців тому +1

      Also I didn't use the map system until level 5, I don't know if it gets more mazelike later in the game, or if I'm just use to older game level design.

  • @blazr1976
    @blazr1976 10 місяців тому +16

    I had graphics culture shock when I went back to Shadows of the Empire for N64 recently. It is amazing how good it looked to me on release. I will definitely be picking up DF Remastered. Now all we need are remasters of X-Wing and TIE Fighter.

    • @Jalex0021
      @Jalex0021 10 місяців тому +1

      Yes, without a good CRT, the visuals and frame pacing will always be worse than you remember.

    • @negirno
      @negirno 10 місяців тому

      Honestly, _Shadows of the Empire_ had very monotone graphics even back then thanks to the N64 limitations which were carried over to the PC version (which by the way required a 3D accelerator card). The Hoth levels had only one texture!

    • @Vanessaira-Retro
      @Vanessaira-Retro 9 місяців тому

      Forgot to add to my UA-cam video link. Tie Figther, XWA, and X-Wing have been worked on via fans for many many years. The Tie Fighter Total Conversion linked above has released and the Reimagined Campaign is getting close to completion.

  • @marklechman2225
    @marklechman2225 10 місяців тому +1

    When this came out it was the absolute bomb. It came out during the tail-end of the shareware demo era so even us kids with no cash could try it out. It was Star Wars heaven for gamers of that era. I remember being so impressed that your character could look up and down! Talk about cutting edge!

  • @tj8097
    @tj8097 10 місяців тому +14

    "Legends" as some call it will always be the truer form of canon in SW

    • @benitosierrajr3958
      @benitosierrajr3958 10 місяців тому +1

      I don’t blame you, Legends has better Star Wars content than most Disney has produced in recent years.

    • @philippeamon7271
      @philippeamon7271 10 місяців тому

      Canon is defined as whatever the priests like, and want to use against you - it is not what you prefer, and it is not for your benefit. Unless you seek to understand Star Wars by it's canon. It makes me genuinely angry, that you think it only exists to suck you off, specifically, out of the 8 billion people on earth... What about us, you think we are all inferior to you? Is that a threat, Sir? And by what logic do you pretend, we should all suffer for your gratification, hmmm? Are you trying to tell us, that you are a threat to sexy girls, and we need to lock you away forever, just to keep them safe?
      Legends is the ultimate lack of understanding, the ultimate no-think-looks-cool. Luke Skywalker vs. Luuuuke... what are you, 5 years old? No plan, no point, no purpose. Limitless only because it is a LIE. Just a loser power-fantasy fan-fiction, shat out of thieving piggy-backers, who only came to steal your money. The very pinnacle of everything you claim to detest, in a paper thin sugar-coating, and you can't wait to reward them for their abuse of you... and it's YOU, isn't it? That's the big secret you're hoping to hide, behind your fascist, safe "opinion" parrotting? But when you beg for a pat on the back in that cowardly way, I'm going to punch you in the face, like you deserve!
      I am saddened and disappointed, that you gravitate towards something so utterly conceited and selfish. Particularly, when I don't want to have sex with you, your insolent self-importance only reads as a beg to be hammered into the floorboards.
      You attended class with Lucas, but you didn't learn a damn thing, too busy endlessly rotating around your own butthole.
      You're embarrassing in your vulgar display of weakness and entitlement! Please stop talking.

    • @poleon2003
      @poleon2003 Місяць тому

      @@benitosierrajr3958 Even if some novels and comics had a what some may call a "jumped the shark" moment ie. the Dark Empire comics where palpatine was resurrected way before they did that with the Rise of Skywalker but still it was a magical time where almost every author had a passion of expanding on the lore in their own way even if George Lucas doesn't consider the EU canon but honestly who cares what George Lucas or Disney says about what's canon and what's not canon?

  • @ZuluRomeo
    @ZuluRomeo 29 днів тому

    I played the original with a Sound Blaster AWE32 which incidentally the game fully supported back then, and the music sounded AWESOME. The opening crawl sounded magnificent with full strength brass and string sections. I never owned a Roland Sound Canvas (which was back then THE gold standard consumer music production card) but I could imagine the AWE32 with its Sound Font MIDI technology would have sounded close to it.

  • @nutherefurlong
    @nutherefurlong 10 місяців тому +1

    The repeater was my most used weapon
    One of my memories of the game was when you go to... not to spoil, but just a place that's a bit different than the usual bunkers, and I was excited for a moment to maybe see some glimpse of noncombatants or an illusion of a populated area but it was clear that wasn't going to happen, the engine would probably fall apart, and it wouldn't have served a shooter story too well, I guess. Now those things are within reach of developers, but then it felt like every choice must have been exacting, despite it being decades after people were squeezing bits into Atari carts.
    A fond memory was how they used map geometry to create an illusion of different floors despite the Doom-style vertical limitations
    This one sneaked up on me, would definitely like to have it.

  • @kybercore1213
    @kybercore1213 10 місяців тому +1

    I remember sneaking downstairs when my parents were asleep to play this on pc back in the 90’s! The sound of our computer booting up was nerve wracking! 😂

  • @musamatheslim6617
    @musamatheslim6617 10 місяців тому +2

    I'm convinced I could listen to MJR talk about anything video game related. Never played the original, no desire to play the new version... but still watched the entire video 😂 Can always appreciate the work that went in to each video, as always great work man 👍🏻

  • @rorz999
    @rorz999 10 місяців тому +6

    Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight is one of my favourite games of all time 💜

    • @timpize8733
      @timpize8733 10 місяців тому +2

      Me too. In comparison the first Dark Forces isn't even worth mentioning. Jedi Knight is still one of the best FPS's of all times. The second one too.

  • @spirit_in_exile
    @spirit_in_exile 10 місяців тому +1

    I’ve recently replayed the original using the fan-made Force Engine replacement for some gameplay improvements, which btw has collab’ed w/NightDive & is going to support the Remaster’s assets, too! As for more of a remake: There was a DF mod for Jedi Academy well underway (07-08?), later cancelled, and the demo was/is pretty epic. Still on ModDB

  • @Detective_L
    @Detective_L 10 місяців тому +9

    I wish they added a mini map with a tracker on where to go next. I may prefer old games but modern fixes like that are a blessing with big maze like games with identical layouts.

  • @thelatman9397
    @thelatman9397 10 місяців тому

    LOved this back in the day, LucasArts had some big hitters that made my pC (at the time) a Star Wars machine.....X Wing, TIE Fighter, XvT, Rebel Alliance.........man, you're getting me all misty eyed wishing for my childhood again

  • @orangedrink888
    @orangedrink888 10 місяців тому +2

    Wow! This looks great! Going to purchase now. Brings back soooo many memories DOS/Windows gaming in the 90s. Now I want a remaster of Carmageddon :D

  • @GamingintoEternity
    @GamingintoEternity 10 місяців тому

    Yo Jason! Great review! I actually have the Collectors Metal Box which featured Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast but also included Dark Forces and Dark Forces 2 all for Windows 95/98. It also included a mini light saber on a key chain that lights up. It's very cool! 🤘🏻

  • @Finnishmanni
    @Finnishmanni 10 місяців тому +6

    The view bobbing is something that BELONGS to these kind of games. Without it the characters seems to slide on ice.

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  10 місяців тому

      I was playing this while a friend was over last week and they basically INSISTED I turn off the head bobbing. They couldn't stand it. LOL

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 10 місяців тому +1

      @@MetalJesusRocks Hah they must've hated Doom back in the day, gotta love the things old games did to make more "realistic" movement

  • @e.x.watson9997
    @e.x.watson9997 10 місяців тому +1

    Someday I'll tell a grandkid "when I was a kid you couldn't free aim in FPS games, you had to hit keys to aim up or down" and they won't believe my old ass

  • @marconihimself
    @marconihimself 10 місяців тому +1

    If youre a console gamer but like keyboard and mouse support for those remasters of old games, this one allegedly has it on xbox. Quake does as well (dont know about quake 2), age of empires 2 also has k+m on xbox etc. Kind of an underrated feature for xbox. I wished Larian implemented this for baldur's gate.

  • @GDLarcade
    @GDLarcade 10 місяців тому +1

    There was a Star Wars wad for Doom before Dark Forces existed which was a lot of fun but kind of buggy. I still have it somewhere on a 3 1/2" disk. If I remember right it was in the Death Star.
    For some reason I still have my Dark Forces receipt. I bought it on 3/9/95 for $49.87 at Best Buy. What a great day!
    Thanks for the video!

    • @MrAvenger1975
      @MrAvenger1975 10 місяців тому +2

      I didn't purchase mine until the following year, I think. Receipt is still in the box.

  • @tcchip
    @tcchip 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm really glad Nightdive once again delivered another great remaster. But I already own a copy of the original MS-DOS CD-ROM as well as the Steam version. The elephant in the room is The Force Engine source port, which finally let me finish the game from start to finish thanks to having in-level saves. The remaster looks great, but since I just finished the game a few months ago, I'm not in an immediate hurry to replay the game. Dark Forces has great gunplay, but the levels were pretty labyrinthine and by the time you got to the Detention Center, things can get pretty confusing.

  • @phaigemartin
    @phaigemartin 10 місяців тому

    I remember back in the day this game felt like you were running around with your chest on the ground... perspective was weird but many great memories... great vid

  • @juanf5391
    @juanf5391 10 місяців тому +1

    I remember back in 2000/2001 when my parents bought my brothers and me our first P.C.(a Compaq) from Radio Shack. The first three games I bought were Diablo II, Medal of Honor Allied Assault (the game time forgot), and Star Wars Jedi Knight II. JK II blew me away and I played through the game multiple times on Jedi Knight difficulty until I left for boot camp in 2002.
    P.S: I also want to give a shout-out to Sim City 2000 which came with the P.C. That game got me hooked on sim games to this day.

    • @MrAvenger1975
      @MrAvenger1975 10 місяців тому +1

      JKII is still one of my favorite games of all time. I still play it from time to time.

  • @thebodybeatdownDiTi
    @thebodybeatdownDiTi 10 місяців тому

    ive tried to play some of the older games again and even some remasters on pc and console..BUT I just cant. I get about 10minutes in and im shaking my head saying "no, im good"...We've just come so far in the whole gaming aspect its almost impossible to have the same sort of fun and tolerance for how things use to be. This is just my humble take on it. For those who love it,im glad you get to experience things again..

  • @kiriltodorov2192
    @kiriltodorov2192 10 місяців тому +5

    The remaster looks exactly how I remember it from the 90s :)

    • @Right_Said_Brett
      @Right_Said_Brett 10 місяців тому

      That's always the sign of a great remaster; to simply make the game look how you remember it looking, as opposed to how to it actually looked.

    • @Reploid-dj9jc
      @Reploid-dj9jc 10 місяців тому +1

      With CRT monitors back then it most likely did , and now we all can have this great quality .

  • @pqsnet
    @pqsnet 7 місяців тому

    The funny thing is. I actually remeber the OT version as the Remastered one look like.
    And i have found out that if you play heavily pixelated games long enough, the brain "fixes" the details after a while so you actually see it more high res than it is. Also, im pretty sure the look up down feature didnt exist in the original version. Regarding music. No remastered game music have beaten the Mac OS Original sound.

  • @jstewlly4747
    @jstewlly4747 10 місяців тому +1

    Also during this time LucasArts was releasing all types video games including Star wars saga and Metal warriors (masterpieces) so this was a big deal

  • @imreszabo4256
    @imreszabo4256 10 місяців тому +1

    As far as I know this is the prequel of the Jedi Outcast game which is my favourite Star Wars game. I have fond memories playing Jedi Outcast and I am glad to hear this available on modern consoles, considering its an original PC game. Though its not available where I am live. I happy with the remastered version since I never played the original, so I believe players like me will enjoy this version.

    • @MrAvenger1975
      @MrAvenger1975 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, sort of.
      Dark Forces,
      Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight,
      Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast,
      Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy.

  • @fgdj2000
    @fgdj2000 10 місяців тому

    I for one am really happy they stuck to the classic look and didn't mess with it too much. I've never played this one back in the day, because it was on the index of our country (which means you were still allowed to buy or sell it, but you couldn't advertise it or put it openly in your shop). And ever since some retrospectives on Shadows of the Empire and the Jedi Knight Series I've been craving a classic mid-1990s Star Wars game. Finally got it! It's also great to remember a simpler time when there was just one trilogy and a growing but still manageable number of books and comics. 😊
    (I am one of the few who don't mind any of Licas' changes or the prequels or the sequels, but I still like to go back in time from time to time and occasionally pop in the "GOUT" or Harmy's despeciaöized editions)

  • @johnhancockretro
    @johnhancockretro 10 місяців тому

    Some great Star Wars games came out in the 90s. I would love for Nightdive Studios to remaster X-wing and Tie Fighter.

  • @espirite
    @espirite 10 місяців тому

    While the price was more than i had hoped, after playing about 7 hours of this so far i'm in love and think it is by far the best way to now play the game.
    I love that i can toggle the original DOS graphics on BUT have them scale and run nicely on a modern machine and have the mouse input feel smooth.
    I love that the upscaled / redone textures and sprites are incredibly true to the original design and don't try to deviate from them. The newly rendered cutscenes matched with the original cleaned up audio does something fantastic to my soul that transports me back to being a kid playing this game again on a friends PC.
    The work Night Dive are doing to preserve and modernize classic games is truly special and i hope they continue.

  • @rinoz47
    @rinoz47 7 місяців тому

    11:47 never noticed the Phase 2's on standby back there.

  • @troletrain
    @troletrain 10 місяців тому +2

    I hope this remaster is the first step to a remaster of the Jedi Knight series. A remastered Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy would be awesome.

  • @creaturesfromelsewhere203
    @creaturesfromelsewhere203 10 місяців тому

    Puking from the headbobbing was part of the fun, and a crucial element of the "Dark Forces Diet Plan."

  • @marconihimself
    @marconihimself 10 місяців тому +1

    We need nightdive to tackle jedi knight + mysteries of the sith and jedi outcast + jedi academy, all of these with multiplayer support. Those were the days.

  • @MartinBarreby
    @MartinBarreby 10 місяців тому +1

    Looks great! Will for sure pick it up! Great review! :)
    I'm in this phase right now though where I kind of like to play older games closer to their original resolution. When emulating Gamecube or PS2 for example, I have loved to play the games in higher resolution and almost get that remaster feeling. But now I really like to stick to the original resolution (or closer to them at least) since textures and geometries works so well with it. What I am starting to feel in some of the remasters is that even if textures are more high res, geometries often stay the same, and it just makes everything so "boxy" and blocky. But depends on the game of course so it can be hit or miss for sure. :)

  • @BR_5499
    @BR_5499 10 місяців тому

    Adding the compass feature like Quake 2 remaster did would help with the navigation issues. It works really well in Quake 2.

  • @CryoSting520
    @CryoSting520 8 місяців тому

    I didn’t get to play this gem until I was about 7 years old back in 2001 on my PlayStation. I never got to beat it cos my poor little kid brain couldn’t figure out how to get past the 4th level, until years later now at 30, that all I had to do was open up my inventory to view the secret code on this key card I collected. So glad this Remaster came out cos now I’m on the 11th level enjoying the hell out of this game all over again. I can finally beat it now!

  • @aioli4869
    @aioli4869 10 місяців тому

    I only ever played Dark Forces II. My dad and I would download mod maps and characters and have 1 on 1 duels. Would love to see that come back.

  • @UlrichWrangel
    @UlrichWrangel 9 місяців тому

    I can't preach enough how good this remake is. This game blew my socks off when I first saw it and it went on to become a large part of my life until around the millenium. The best friend and I had our GeoCities Dark Forces fan page, with custom levels, walk-through guide, etc. There were some parts of the game I hadn't seen for over 20 years and replaying it really brought back some fond old memories. Thank you so much NightDive if you read this. Must buy/10.

  • @artofnoise5013
    @artofnoise5013 10 місяців тому

    This looks great! I love the smoother, sharper graphics while keeping the simplicity of the geometry. There's a nice sense of artistry to the remaster. I might just have to pick this one up.

  • @mksolid82
    @mksolid82 10 місяців тому

    In these dark days of Disney Star Wars... it's nice to get a release like this. This game takes you back to a much happier time in the fandom and in our culture.

  • @GotCamel
    @GotCamel 6 місяців тому +1

    As long as it’s not made for “modern audiences” I will buy it.

  • @bkillinm
    @bkillinm 10 місяців тому +1

    What they should have done is included the compass feature that night dive put into their quake remasters. Would have helped a lot here

  • @experiencecollector92
    @experiencecollector92 10 місяців тому +1

    Another great review! I miss you having Reggie on the show. Bring Reggie back soon please! I enjoy your video collaborations with him, although everything you do is enjoyable :)

  • @odnetnin4720
    @odnetnin4720 10 місяців тому

    Oh man…I had no idea what you where talking about until I saw the big box art. Then it all came rushing back! So many memories so long long ago…….

  • @FernandoMaldonado
    @FernandoMaldonado 10 місяців тому

    Nothing takes me back to PC gaming like listening to those old MIDI sound. I’m right there playing a point and click adventure game in my family computer room. Probably playing a Sierra game.

  • @kyerinajohnson1353
    @kyerinajohnson1353 10 місяців тому

    being a 90's kid growing up on these games i love te fact that they are remastering these games

  • @113caleb
    @113caleb 10 місяців тому

    Hey, how do you switch back-and-forth to the original? I was trying to figure that out. I am playing on the series X Xbox

  • @AbstractM0use
    @AbstractM0use 10 місяців тому +1

    Being able to look up and down was revolutionary for the genre at the time.

  • @Crimsonland1
    @Crimsonland1 10 місяців тому

    Thanks!

    • @MetalJesusRocks
      @MetalJesusRocks  10 місяців тому +2

      Oh dude! That’s very nice of you. Thanks so much for the donation. I really appreciate it. 👍

  • @Tall_Order
    @Tall_Order 10 місяців тому +4

    For me legends is cannon. It's disney that isn't.

  • @lexluthermiester
    @lexluthermiester 10 місяців тому

    @MetalJesusRocks
    Thank you for reviewing this! A remake would be very cool!

  • @SW0000A
    @SW0000A 10 місяців тому

    Now we need a bug box pc release of the remaster and a switch physical release also.
    My original copy needs a friend.

  • @AmigaVR
    @AmigaVR 10 місяців тому +3

    Nice, I played it on PS1 back in the day. Now we finally have a Amiga port 🤘🏻