episode 2 Masters of the air bombing trondheim footage + fighter relic engine from collection

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  • Опубліковано 11 січ 2025

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  • @rocksteadymilitaria541
    @rocksteadymilitaria541  11 місяців тому +2

    for the next upcoming episode next week, what would you like to see more or less in the videos? please drop in comments all feedback is appreciated , tnx Bas

  • @rocksteadymilitaria541
    @rocksteadymilitaria541  10 місяців тому

    see our latest episode of relics uncovered: ua-cam.com/video/SKZrdl_-KQ8/v-deo.html

  • @gerrymurphy4421
    @gerrymurphy4421 9 місяців тому +6

    In his memoirs my father-in-law recalled a bombing mission on the sub pens over Trondheim as a pilot of a Lancaster in RAAF 467 squadron. He wrote that they flew at night just above sea level for hours to avoid German radar. They were under strict orders to bomb only if the target was visible to prevent any Norwegian civilian casualties. A pathfinder screwed the mission, and they had to abort. Germans had laid smoke. They dropped their bombs at sea and made it back to the north of Scotland on fumes.

  • @jonaselze9316
    @jonaselze9316 11 місяців тому +38

    And of all those empty square kilometers out here... You really HAD to choose exactly my cucmber plantation for a landing strip?!

  • @trulsvatne4345
    @trulsvatne4345 11 місяців тому +21

    Both the Dora and Bruno (Bergen) pens are still present today

  • @CaesarInVa
    @CaesarInVa 10 місяців тому +6

    It was common practice for the lead aircraft in a formation to signal navigation and other messages by blinker light to the surrounding aircraft. So I'm pretty sure they had a pretty good idea of Crosby's intentions.

  • @arkwill14
    @arkwill14 11 місяців тому +11

    Good thing their waist-gunner called out that flak at 1:58 -- I don't think anybody had noticed it.

  • @BrandonKaiChenLow
    @BrandonKaiChenLow 11 місяців тому +8

    Ooh the landing on the farm at the end is crazy even with flak, fighter damage and hitting the cliff the B 17 looks not so seriously damage except for the engines.

  • @laurencefausold5555
    @laurencefausold5555 10 місяців тому +3

    The Luftwaffe aircraft that attacked them were not Ju-88's but instead were Me-110's. The Ju-88 had a single vertical stabilizer, not the two the Me-110 had, however, both were twin-engine aircraft. During the heat of the fight, it was not unusual for those involved to mistakenly identify aircraft of the enemy. Throughout the war, pilots and crews of both sides of the conflict misidentified opposing aircraft.

  • @BratislavMetulski
    @BratislavMetulski 11 місяців тому +12

    5:29 what exactly is a Messerschmidt Engine?! It is a Daimler Benz Engine, from a Messerschmidt plane. Also that wasnt a machine gun in the middle, it was a machine cannon.

    • @Hardside65
      @Hardside65 10 місяців тому +1

      You´re right - Mercedes Benz DB 601 A, E (E-Version, F-Version) and MB DB 605 AM, AS, D (G-Version, K-Version) . The Machine Gun in the "middle" had the designation MG 151/20 (starting with the Me Bf 109 F-2) .

    • @rocksteadymilitaria541
      @rocksteadymilitaria541  9 місяців тому

      thanks for the info :)

  • @1000vstrom
    @1000vstrom 11 місяців тому +8

    So they where going for DORA 1 in TRONDHEIM

    • @sillyone52062
      @sillyone52062 11 місяців тому +3

      At St. Nazaire, the town itself vanished after heavy bombing, but the sub pens remain to this day.

    • @OKuusava
      @OKuusava 11 місяців тому +1

      Yes, I was to wndering what a heck is Trontheim ;-) Next there is Lundon, Ingland. ;-D

    • @1000vstrom
      @1000vstrom 11 місяців тому +1

      @@sillyone52062 In reality there where no bombing of Trondheim, the town was heavy fortified, heavy bombers at Stjördal airfield, seeairplane base at Hommelvik (He115) fighter base at Lade (Me109) west of Trondheim seeairplane base at Trolla there was (BV138)

  • @justsmashing4628
    @justsmashing4628 10 місяців тому +3

    in reality the allied average bomb never fell within 5 miles of a target, and the gunners very rarely hit any German fighters.

  • @Fergusius
    @Fergusius 11 місяців тому +7

    I believe those were Bf-110s and not JU-88s

    • @StalwartPikeman
      @StalwartPikeman 10 місяців тому +1

      They were. The error may have been done on purpose to show how misidentification can and did happen.

    • @fortunatebum
      @fortunatebum 10 місяців тому +1

      Twin engine intercept fighters yeah I’d just say “big fast things incoming”

  • @oliabid-price4517
    @oliabid-price4517 11 місяців тому +5

    The formation flying is shown much too close together than it was for real. Also, the turn should be 'at the IP' (Initial Point), not 'to the IP'.

  • @nakinajay
    @nakinajay 11 місяців тому +1

    Wasn’t the tail wheel always down?
    Just wondering
    Thanks for sharing this

    • @shial1977
      @shial1977 11 місяців тому +1

      It does retract to reduce drag. The wheels all stuck out a bit on the B17s which may be why it seems like it was always down

    • @nakinajay
      @nakinajay 11 місяців тому

      @@shial1977 thanks for the reply. Hello from Nakina Ontario 🇨🇦

    • @nakinajay
      @nakinajay 10 місяців тому

      @@shial1977 thank you for the reply. Wish you all the best from Nakina Ontario 🇨🇦

  • @douglasstreet7304
    @douglasstreet7304 9 місяців тому +2

    OK, I like this series BUT too many scenes of the engines turning the wrong direction and in case of trouble, wrong feathering. YA, I know, picky, just saying.

  • @KurtRauschmair
    @KurtRauschmair 10 місяців тому +2

    HOCHACHTUNG UND RESPECT FÜR ALLE SOLDATEN DES 2. WELTKRIEGS! IN GEDENKEN AN ALLE GEFALLENEN! GRÜSSE AUS BAYERN!

    • @rocksteadymilitaria541
      @rocksteadymilitaria541  10 місяців тому

      hallo Bayern! not long ago we visited Nurnberg & munchen, alles klar :)

    • @rongreen5798
      @rongreen5798 2 місяці тому +1

      Danke von Amerika....

    • @KurtRauschmair
      @KurtRauschmair 2 місяці тому

      BITTE BITTE! LIEBE GRÜSSE AUS BAYERN !!SERVUS !!@@rongreen5798

  • @SeadartVSG
    @SeadartVSG 10 місяців тому +3

    Det er Trondheim.

  • @milkyway8507
    @milkyway8507 10 місяців тому +1

    This movie is insane. They launch a mission without dog fighters support. They just let the bombers go on its way.

  • @nomeansno2335
    @nomeansno2335 10 місяців тому +1

    I am glad that Brad Pitt is not in that picture

  • @richardlowrey6394
    @richardlowrey6394 10 місяців тому +2

    He doesn't have airsickness on this mission.. "historically inaccurate"

  • @bluedragontoybash2463
    @bluedragontoybash2463 11 місяців тому

    I thought the safety pin is connected to the airframe, so when the bomb dropped, the safety pin is automatically unplugged. Anybody know about this ??

    • @StalwartPikeman
      @StalwartPikeman 10 місяців тому

      I believe the arming pins were actually removed in flight by the crews, after they had cleared the English coast.

    • @bluedragontoybash2463
      @bluedragontoybash2463 10 місяців тому

      @@StalwartPikeman ua-cam.com/video/vYQp0TxsOMg/v-deo.htmlsi=TlavEMq0Lnn-xEj1

  • @woskiful
    @woskiful 11 місяців тому +2

    Bf110 not ju88

  • @XPL1010
    @XPL1010 11 місяців тому +5

    Si vis pacem, para bellum!

  • @KurtZorch
    @KurtZorch 11 місяців тому +6

    too bad the thousands of missions against the u-boat pens were all worthless - as determined by post-war study

    • @wolfu597
      @wolfu597 11 місяців тому +8

      True but in all fairness, they had to try something. Even if it didn't work the way it was intended to.

    • @ferngrows6740
      @ferngrows6740 11 місяців тому +1

      @@wolfu597 Yep. Even experiments that are considered a 'failure' can deliver valuable information/experience that is useful for the overall objective.

    • @jeep146
      @jeep146 10 місяців тому

      But it is ironic that it was air power and radar that destroyed the Uboats.

  • @Eric-kn4yn
    @Eric-kn4yn 11 місяців тому +3

    Special effects arent that good

  • @micheldaubigne7629
    @micheldaubigne7629 10 місяців тому

    brilliant work @rocksteadymilitaria541

  • @thomaswilhelm7916
    @thomaswilhelm7916 11 місяців тому +1

    Keine Ju 88 sondern Bf 110 vermutlich Jg 5