Great Video!!!!! Thanks for the scupper plug tips.....I'm using my supper plugs with my pelican 10 foot Kayak.....I use it primarily in rivers and mostly fairly calm waters....it's rated for a weight capacity of 300# . So I bought it just before the pandemic.....but the floor stayed really wet....as I am around 295#......so I installed scupper plugs and it dried the inside nicely and I feel like it nay have added some wt capacity as well. My question is....I plan to buy probably a 12ft sot this summer......is there a recommended formula for weight capacity? So I buy one that will carry my wt and cut through the water instead of plowing ??? Thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍🏻👍🏻😀
Hi Bill, thank you and you’re welcome. Glad you got the scupper plugs to work for you. There really isn’t a formula to use to figure out weight capacity without knowing more than we as consumers are given. It requires knowing intricate design criteria, thickness of resin, quality of resins, structural information, kiss off points, etc. however, most all manufacturers will list the weight capacity with and without scupper plugs, or you can usually find out with a phone call. The width, length, and hull design all play a big part in capacity. All 12 foot Kayaks do not have the same weight capacity, and even those with similar length and width can vary by as much as 30%. For rivers and such as you are pushing and with your weight, the weight of equipment, and accessories, I would look at something with at least a 400 lbs total capacity or more. The main thing to keep in mind is that you and all of your equipment weight should only weigh as much as 85% of the capacity. This leaves room for error and allows you to have some flexibility in the future and swapping out equipment. That is why I think you should look for something in the 400 Lbs capacity. Also since you are in rivers often, take a look at a Kayaks with a boulbous nose, and a deeper v style hull with a good rocker profile. That will keep you bow out of the water and the hull shape will allow you enjoy the paddling and not feel like you are plowing through the water, but staying on top of it. This will make it much more enjoyable. To get an idea of a good kayak design, take a look at the Crescent Kayaks Lite Tackle. I have a walkthrough video on my channel here and it is what I fly fish from for the last couple of years.
You're welcome and thank you. They do add to some buoyancy in a manner of speaking, meaning that the Lite Tackle (LT) rated weight capacity is 450 lbs and that is with the Scupper Plugs installed, without them you are roughly in the neighborhood of 325 lbs.
That makes sense now why water is almost up to the top of my scuppers when on it. I didn't realize the scuppers made a difference and it was 450lbs without them although it's perfectly logical
@@razor_adventures4266 you can also play around with the number and location of scupper plugs. Meaning that you can use one or two instead of all of them to help find the buoyancy that you like.
i purchased a sundolphin boss 12 ss and the scuppers come undrilled. should i drill them? and do i drilll all of the bottom ones with out enough plugs for them? is there ever a need to plug the bottom scupper holes?
No, do not drill the scuppers out. That is a thermoformed kayak and the scuppers should line up and already be open to the water under the hull. Please contact Sundolphin and notify them that your kayak does not have the scuppers as intended.
Great video as usual. So I'm mostly going out on a small, calm lake with no wake or waves and I have not been using scupper plugs. Other than increased weight capacity, is there any other advantage of using them?
Thank you!! Having the scupper plugs in not only prevents the water from flowing from the deck to the water surface, but also from coming up through the scuppers themselves. The scuppers can let water in when paddling or even when sitting in calm waters and the kayak rocks to and fro, the scupper plugs will help stop that water from coming in and getting on the deck of the kayak. Another advantage is that they keep other items from falling to the bottom of the lake. We all drop things when in kayaks, and if it is small enough to fit through a scupper, you can rest assured that you will drop it right down the hole!! By having plugs in you may be able to save a favorite lure, fly, clippers, or something similar.
Can two sets of wheels be inserted into the front and back scupper holes to more easily tow a kayak? I want to be able to pull one with my bicycle, but I'd feel better if there were two sets of wheels inserted underneath. Thank You.
I do not recommend using any carts in the scupper holes. The Crescent Kayaks are not able to use them anyway, as they only have a single scupper in the middle of the kayak hull. However, if you use a larger sized two wheel cart that is wide, has a good weight capacity, and has larger tires, you would be perfectly fine with one cart. If you are looking to tow with your bicycle, check out the Suspenz All-Terrain Super Duty Airless Cart, it has bicycle tires and a huge weight capacity. Link: suspenz.com/collections/carts/products/all-terrain-super-duty-airless-cart
You may also want to take a look at a product called "The Dumb Stick:, it attaches to your bike seat post and keeps the kayak a safe distance away from the rear tire. dumb-stick.com/shop/ols/products
The water is not moved from one location to another, it is allowed to drain out the kayak from the bottom. It is self bailing and drains itself overboard sort of speak, but from underneath and not over the sides. The scupper holes go from the deck all the way through the kayak and are kind of like hollow pillars, they allow water to go out and come in in some cases. People use scupper plugs to help keep their gear drier, butt drier, to minimize things dropped down the scupper and into the depths of the water, etc. By plugging any/all the scuppers you essentially trap any water and it cannot drain, thereby it becomes more weight and when it moves it can can cause balance an stability issues. Using scupper plugs is a part of kayak fishing and kayaking, but one has to be aware of that the water trapped by the plugs must be allowed to drain if/when it begins to build up in the deck area of he kayak. Hopefully this helped answer your questions.
I had recently gotten a new iPhone and was unable to use external microphone until I purchased more equipment. I now have the external microphone working and current video audio is much better.
@@sneak916 thank you, it could use some improvement, but I was unaware that Apple required special connections to use external microphones. I now have it and the sound is much better.
Excellent video Donald!
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it.
Good vid Donald, thanks...
Thank you and you are welcome. :)
Thanks that was informative.
Thank you very much!! I try to put out information in an instructional manner as well as I can.
Great Video!!!!! Thanks for the scupper plug tips.....I'm using my supper plugs with my pelican 10 foot Kayak.....I use it primarily in rivers and mostly fairly calm waters....it's rated for a weight capacity of 300# . So I bought it just before the pandemic.....but the floor stayed really wet....as I am around 295#......so I installed scupper plugs and it dried the inside nicely and I feel like it nay have added some wt capacity as well. My question is....I plan to buy probably a 12ft sot this summer......is there a recommended formula for weight capacity? So I buy one that will carry my wt and cut through the water instead of plowing ??? Thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍🏻👍🏻😀
Hi Bill, thank you and you’re welcome.
Glad you got the scupper plugs to work for you.
There really isn’t a formula to use to figure out weight capacity without knowing more than we as consumers are given. It requires knowing intricate design criteria, thickness of resin, quality of resins, structural information, kiss off points, etc.
however, most all manufacturers will list the weight capacity with and without scupper plugs, or you can usually find out with a phone call.
The width, length, and hull design all play a big part in capacity. All 12 foot Kayaks do not have the same weight capacity, and even those with similar length and width can vary by as much as 30%.
For rivers and such as you are pushing and with your weight, the weight of equipment, and accessories, I would look at something with at least a 400 lbs total capacity or more.
The main thing to keep in mind is that you and all of your equipment weight should only weigh as much as 85% of the capacity. This leaves room for error and allows you to have some flexibility in the future and swapping out equipment. That is why I think you should look for something in the 400 Lbs capacity.
Also since you are in rivers often, take a look at a Kayaks with a boulbous nose, and a deeper v style hull with a good rocker profile. That will keep you bow out of the water and the hull shape will allow you enjoy the paddling and not feel like you are plowing through the water, but staying on top of it. This will make it much more enjoyable.
To get an idea of a good kayak design, take a look at the Crescent Kayaks Lite Tackle. I have a walkthrough video on my channel here and it is what I fly fish from for the last couple of years.
@@kayakflyfishingschool Thanks so much....have a great evening Donald 😀🛶
@@BILLYBOBSTUNES you’re welcome. You as well.
Great information, thanks! Do the scuppers add buoyancy to the Lite Tackle as well?
You're welcome and thank you.
They do add to some buoyancy in a manner of speaking, meaning that the Lite Tackle (LT) rated weight capacity is 450 lbs and that is with the Scupper Plugs installed, without them you are roughly in the neighborhood of 325 lbs.
That makes sense now why water is almost up to the top of my scuppers when on it. I didn't realize the scuppers made a difference and it was 450lbs without them although it's perfectly logical
@@razor_adventures4266 you can also play around with the number and location of scupper plugs. Meaning that you can use one or two instead of all of them to help find the buoyancy that you like.
Great thanks.
I like to use them more in the colder time of the year ..
That is a good time to stay drier and warmer for sure!! Great point!!
i purchased a sundolphin boss 12 ss and the scuppers come undrilled. should i drill them? and do i drilll all of the bottom ones with out enough plugs for them? is there ever a need to plug the bottom scupper holes?
No, do not drill the scuppers out. That is a thermoformed kayak and the scuppers should line up and already be open to the water under the hull. Please contact Sundolphin and notify them that your kayak does not have the scuppers as intended.
Great video as usual. So I'm mostly going out on a small, calm lake with no wake or waves and I have not been using scupper plugs. Other than increased weight capacity, is there any other advantage of using them?
Thank you!!
Having the scupper plugs in not only prevents the water from flowing from the deck to the water surface, but also from coming up through the scuppers themselves. The scuppers can let water in when paddling or even when sitting in calm waters and the kayak rocks to and fro, the scupper plugs will help stop that water from coming in and getting on the deck of the kayak.
Another advantage is that they keep other items from falling to the bottom of the lake. We all drop things when in kayaks, and if it is small enough to fit through a scupper, you can rest assured that you will drop it right down the hole!! By having plugs in you may be able to save a favorite lure, fly, clippers, or something similar.
Can two sets of wheels be inserted into the front and back scupper holes to more easily tow a kayak? I want to be able to pull one with my bicycle, but I'd feel better if there were two sets of wheels inserted underneath. Thank You.
I do not recommend using any carts in the scupper holes. The Crescent Kayaks are not able to use them anyway, as they only have a single scupper in the middle of the kayak hull.
However, if you use a larger sized two wheel cart that is wide, has a good weight capacity, and has larger tires, you would be perfectly fine with one cart. If you are looking to tow with your bicycle, check out the Suspenz All-Terrain Super Duty Airless Cart, it has bicycle tires and a huge weight capacity.
Link: suspenz.com/collections/carts/products/all-terrain-super-duty-airless-cart
@@kayakflyfishingschool Thank You :)
You may also want to take a look at a product called "The Dumb Stick:, it attaches to your bike seat post and keeps the kayak a safe distance away from the rear tire. dumb-stick.com/shop/ols/products
@@kayakflyfishingschool WOW, I've never seen that before; I saved it to my folder on camper ideas - thank you again :)
@@petuniaromania6294 you’re welcome!! Safe travels and safe paddles!!
What's the point of moving water from one area to another? The water is not drained overboard. For ballast?
The water is not moved from one location to another, it is allowed to drain out the kayak from the bottom. It is self bailing and drains itself overboard sort of speak, but from underneath and not over the sides. The scupper holes go from the deck all the way through the kayak and are kind of like hollow pillars, they allow water to go out and come in in some cases.
People use scupper plugs to help keep their gear drier, butt drier, to minimize things dropped down the scupper and into the depths of the water, etc.
By plugging any/all the scuppers you essentially trap any water and it cannot drain, thereby it becomes more weight and when it moves it can can cause balance an stability issues. Using scupper plugs is a part of kayak fishing and kayaking, but one has to be aware of that the water trapped by the plugs must be allowed to drain if/when it begins to build up in the deck area of he kayak.
Hopefully this helped answer your questions.
Difficult to hear and understand what he's saying, audio could be better.
I had recently gotten a new iPhone and was unable to use external microphone until I purchased more equipment.
I now have the external microphone working and current video audio is much better.
Sounds fine to me
@@sneak916 thank you, it could use some improvement, but I was unaware that Apple required special connections to use external microphones. I now have it and the sound is much better.