[77] How To Decipher Different Pin States and Interpret Key Bitting

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  • @HelpfulLockPicker
    @HelpfulLockPicker  7 років тому +10

    Please Stay Tuned Every Wednesday at 4pm Eastern For More Episodes To Come!

  • @philipmason9689
    @philipmason9689 5 років тому +28

    Your videos are superb. I’ve only just taken up LP & cant tell you how lucky I am to have found someone with such but brilliantly delivered advice. Thank you & well done

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  5 років тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words and if you have any questions along the way feel free to ask :-)

    • @johndelaney2957
      @johndelaney2957 4 роки тому +1

      @@HelpfulLockPicker I'm the same as Philip above,i agree with him about your explanations very helpful.
      You just appeared on my feed today. Thank you for your videos.
      Australia.

  • @FrancisRoyCA
    @FrancisRoyCA 3 роки тому +3

    I've recently discovered your channel. I can't help but express how excellent your videos are. They are simple, precise, practical. You take on bite-sized topics, and address them clearly with no extraneous blah-blah. You offer precise, measurable success/failure actions and consequences, and often work-arounds to simple traps. You demonstrate what you speak about, use the camera and your hands well to illustrate the meaning of your words. I've been listening to one of your videos per day and replay the images in my mind. I have to admit that I haven't gotten my first transparent test-lock yet, but you provide excellent theory, and I look forward to taking my first steps in the subject. Thank you, and have a good day.

  • @paddlefaster
    @paddlefaster 3 роки тому +6

    One of the most informative videos on basic lockpicking I've seen. Good job.

  • @clusumruptor
    @clusumruptor 9 місяців тому

    Man, you always have some good advice and tips. I can watch one of your Home+ School Series videos several times over as many months and still learn every time.

  • @arthouston7361
    @arthouston7361 9 місяців тому

    Just bought my first Genesis pic set over at covert instruments…and ironically, they just started a sale where they lowered the cost of what I paid a couple weeks ago and added some other stuff to the bundle…..but be that as it may, I’m going to soldier on, and I find that your videos are more instructional than many…..which is a good thing for someone who is just starting out like myself.

  • @qianweijia1
    @qianweijia1 3 роки тому +1

    I'm learning on Sparrow's Progressive Locks. I'm on the 4 pin lock, and your tips on oversetting has helped me nail it. I was surprisingly not using enough tension, and I kept oversetting 3 while trying to set 4.

  • @108CAM
    @108CAM Рік тому

    The advice on not trying to force a pin is very important, especially if you are using expensive tools to pick your lock.

  • @nonconformist9930
    @nonconformist9930 3 роки тому

    having picked this hobby up from LPL, Noob and Bosnian Bill , these are the best videos to learn from. The explinations are more conscise helping understand the terminology and thus the development of deciphering the pin feedback. My learning cure accelerated after watching these videos, wish I had found them earlier. Now I have 3 locks that have had me stumped (schalge dead bolt and two cut away sparrows trainers, serated and spooled) that i think I have a better chance of opening rather than relying partially on luck. I can open the three by bumping them but i cant single pick them....yet. Ive got an americn I think im just wasting my time on. so four locks now that im lookn in my bucket of shit i cant open

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  3 роки тому +1

      Congrats on the opens. Schlage keyways can be a tad tough for those starting out sometimes. I usually just use my Lishi

    • @nonconformist9930
      @nonconformist9930 3 роки тому

      @@HelpfulLockPicker lol, when i get frustrated i bump it open

  • @jorgecampa57
    @jorgecampa57 3 роки тому +1

    Another awesome video. You make it possible for beginners to achieve the skills needed to learn lock picking.

  • @WiliamBennettwildarbennett
    @WiliamBennettwildarbennett 3 роки тому +3

    Watching this I've learned more about picking then I've got from so many others. Are there tips on doing locks that have master pins?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  3 роки тому +2

      My biggest tip is they can be a little bit easier because of the multiple shearlines but they are many times more likely to break. Raking them can cause the thin wafers to flip and get stuck

  • @Potti314
    @Potti314 7 років тому +6

    Awesome tutorial - you're very skilled in making educational video.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  7 років тому

      Potti314 Thank you for the kind words :-)
      I think you do a great job yourself as well!

  • @pauladams5239
    @pauladams5239 3 роки тому

    I have been working on my first real lock for almost a year without success. Passively listening to this video it opened for the first time. You are an excellent teacher

  • @alexanderohman1707
    @alexanderohman1707 3 роки тому

    I really wish this would have been the first tutorial I watched. It's awesome!

  • @62Cristoforo
    @62Cristoforo 3 роки тому

    That was the most helpful and best explained video on this topic I’ve seen in months. Methodical and concise. Thank you for that

  • @weeze68dt
    @weeze68dt 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic videos, I really appreciate all the care that you put into your lessons.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  3 роки тому

      thank you for the kind words and I'm glad they help :-)

  • @dirk4926
    @dirk4926 7 років тому +8

    Really good tutorial, you covered some stuff I've never understood. I've got a crappy Master lock that I've never been able to open, and now I think the reason is that I keep over-setting one or two of the longer pins. .

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  7 років тому +1

      Dirk Stabins Thank you for the kind words. If you buy a cutaway lock those go a long way and then you could transition into a more traditional lock like a Kwikset and progressive pin it.

    • @dirk4926
      @dirk4926 7 років тому

      Thanks, I'll look into one when I get a little extra cash.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  7 років тому +1

      Dirk Stabins The one in this video was around $10-15 on eBay

    • @dirk4926
      @dirk4926 7 років тому

      That's pretty reasonable, I'll take a look for one.

    • @user-re7po
      @user-re7po 5 років тому +2

      I love seeing these kind of interaction between creator and fan.

  • @randommadness1021
    @randommadness1021 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this. As someone who is VERY new to this (only opened my first "real" lock yesterday). Watched a lot of videos and this has been bu far the most helpful. Cheers.👍

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 роки тому

      thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps. If you have any questions feel free to ask in the future

    • @randommadness1021
      @randommadness1021 4 роки тому

      @@HelpfulLockPicker 👍 much appreciated. And you're spot on about the tension being more of a skill than the actual picking. I've found that when I've over set a pin, just letting a bit of tension off seems do do the trick. You can even hear it click like you've picked it correctly but as I said I'm very new to this so you can let me know if I'm wrong about that or not...

  • @snigie1
    @snigie1 6 років тому

    Hey I'd just like to say a big thank you, I've been beavering away at my front door for days with no luck and this video showed me I needed to angle in ad that first pin was stopping everything working, after I watched it success!! Even did it a few times I'm a row just to be sure it wasn't a fluke! Thank you again!

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  6 років тому +1

      snigie1 congrats on the success, I'm glad it helps!

  • @SpookyPistolero
    @SpookyPistolero 2 роки тому

    Terrific content and channel, I've been binging while I await my first pick set. Clear, articulate and simplified. Thanks for sharing.

  • @MyTube4Utoo
    @MyTube4Utoo 4 роки тому

    Every new lock picker should see this video!

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 роки тому +1

      I am happy to see how my series has been able to help so many. Thanks for sharing!

    • @MyTube4Utoo
      @MyTube4Utoo 4 роки тому

      @@HelpfulLockPicker You're welcome. You have a gift for teaching. ;-)

  • @KoolBreeze420
    @KoolBreeze420 4 роки тому +1

    I think I just had a breakthrough in picking technique and giving me more room to work the pins if I angle the pick ever so slightly then I don't have to try and wiggle right under the pins instead of working in the little space between the warding and the pins a slight angle from left to right allows me to manipulate one pin at a time and allows me more workroom. What videos never really show is a front view of the lock with the pick in it doing its thing, doesn't matter now. What this means for me is that I can probably put pin 5 back in sooner than expected.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 роки тому

      Thanks for sharing. I could maybe do that angle down the road

  • @khiggins7231
    @khiggins7231 5 років тому +1

    Excellent video. Great teacher!

  • @pumper325
    @pumper325 3 роки тому

    All these videos are incredible and full of knowledge, thank you so much.

  • @charlesklein7232
    @charlesklein7232 6 років тому +2

    your a professional! i enjoy your videos, their very relaxing! and it has started me into lock sport. unfortunately! i have opened locks! i do not know how! i can not find pins! you talk about things i understand mentally! but in reality, i have no idea what your talking about. i basically stab at the inside of the lock! however, i am thinking about inventing my own type of pick. everybody in your industry is very professional! and i enjoy your videos. NO DRUG MUSIC!

  • @IVEEEK0203
    @IVEEEK0203 3 роки тому

    Love how you repeat what we learned today :)

  • @ssjktjessica6
    @ssjktjessica6 5 років тому +1

    Well done, you’ve made sense of it all , brilliant video 😁👍🏼

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  5 років тому

      Thank you for the kind words, I am glad it helped out!

  • @justinstuart9109
    @justinstuart9109 Рік тому

    This was really helpful! Thanks for your excellent videos

  • @ndoghouse6853
    @ndoghouse6853 2 роки тому

    Thanks a million man! After your instructions here I just picked my first lock ever (the right way SPP). It was a 60mm Master padlock. It took three days! I aint sure how I did it and havent figured the pin order for sure but pin one does nothing it seems? I think I was over setting pin 2 and it must be a spool or security pin because I cant ever get a good click off of it? The first pin is really deep and Ive been using a deep pick to try to get around it but doesnt seem to matter what I do with it it almost never binds. I didnt notice if it was set or not when I opened it but lets see how long it take to open it a second time? Thanks! Excellent teacher you are!

  • @snorman1951
    @snorman1951 4 роки тому +1

    All these "beginner" locks seem to come with Schlage key ways. Beginners need to focus on lifting and setting pins and a difficult key way doesn't help. I contacted a seller on Ebay and he agreed to make me one with a Kwikset key way. Much better!

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 роки тому

      Yes, I agree. I have one with the KW1 keyway and it is much better!

  • @Frosty901
    @Frosty901 6 років тому

    Very nice video. This will help a lot of new pickers. You present these very well! 👍

  • @CHP-Pan
    @CHP-Pan 4 роки тому

    Brilliant video best on youtube for a beginner like me. Thank you.

  • @robertclark3258
    @robertclark3258 6 років тому +1

    Excellent information and very helpful. Thanks!

  • @andreyandreya5144
    @andreyandreya5144 4 роки тому +1

    excellent content, thank you. for the camera, put it on manual focus, fine tune it and it will stay nice and sharp continuously, as you are not changing the focal distance ;)

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for sharing, however, this was not an option with the setup that was used at the time of filming this video. Thankfully, this is no longer an issue

    • @andreyandreya5144
      @andreyandreya5144 4 роки тому

      @@HelpfulLockPicker enjoying the course you've put together very much, thank you! slightly different makes of locks in the uk, hopefully, i'll be able to get the right ones to practice with

  • @Liberty4Ever
    @Liberty4Ever 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this excellent educational video.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 роки тому

      Thank you for the kind words and I am glad the video helps :)

  • @adammfanning3654
    @adammfanning3654 5 років тому

    I find this very practical. Thank you

  • @lesio333
    @lesio333 5 років тому

    Good teaching. Thank you

  • @michaelmendillo4614
    @michaelmendillo4614 6 років тому

    Awesome my friend, it helps emencely to see the mechanics and mechanisms,,, TY very much !
    😁🖒🇺🇸

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  6 років тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words and I'm glad it helped!

  • @TheBnelsonphoto
    @TheBnelsonphoto 3 роки тому

    This is excellent insight! Thank you.

  • @bodybuildinggohardorgohome8188
    @bodybuildinggohardorgohome8188 4 роки тому

    A very interesting and enriching video. Thanks a lot

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words and I'm glad it helped!

  • @austinchen8322
    @austinchen8322 2 роки тому

    This video is so helpful! I was wondering if there is a way to tell the difference between oversetting and undersetting a pin by feel? Thanks again!

  • @Horizonhunter76
    @Horizonhunter76 5 років тому

    Excellent video and always enjoy your content. This has given me a couple new ideas that hopefully help me overcome my inability to SPP! Lol I’m new to picking and have had pretty good success raking a variety of padlocks I’ve accumulated but of the very few I was able to spp it was purely sheer luck! Any suggestions on how to become better at it? Did you have a mentor or just start off with videos and books? Keep up the great work!!

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  5 років тому +1

      I was mostly self-taught but I participated a lot on Reddit and learned a lot there. I read the PDF lock picking detail Overkill and that is what got me started.
      To get better it is mostly about practice, practice, practice. I highly recommend people start off on a Kwikset lock

  • @Bostonrain420
    @Bostonrain420 4 роки тому

    Thank you for your helpful tips...

  • @E-BikingAdventures
    @E-BikingAdventures 5 років тому

    Good tutorial. Thanks.

  • @gsloan76
    @gsloan76 3 роки тому

    Really appreciate this video. I recently began learning how to pick, after having a set of picks for well over a year. I purchased a set of practice locks from Sparrow (2, 3, 4, and 5 pins) and have been having moderate luck. The issue is, though I've been able to open all but the 5pin thus far, I haven't truly understood why it works sometimes and doesn't other times. Your breakdown of picky is very helpful. It's surprising how much easier simple changes in technique can help so much. I'm definitely a subscriber and look forward to learning more from you as I go. One question though; I have a Southord pick set (with so many different picks that I can' even comprehend yet) and, though it seems that success has much more to do with technique rather than equipment, I'm curious if you have a beginner-intermediate set that you would recommend over others? Also, if you have a preferred company for tools that you prefer? Thanks! Greg

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  3 роки тому

      I use the Peterson hook 1 in 0.025" 90% of the time and the the Peterson gem in 0.018 for the other 10%.
      Make sure you get a good assortment of top of keyway tensioner as well

    • @gsloan76
      @gsloan76 3 роки тому

      HelpfulLockPicker Thanks man! I’ll check them out and, yeah definitely going to grab some top key way tensioners. Noticed that in your video and it appeared to make things a little easier.

  • @AlbertLebel
    @AlbertLebel 6 років тому

    Great info. and now I see what you mean about the camera focusing so much.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  6 років тому

      Albert Lebel yeah, I'm not a big fan of It. That's why I try to make shorter scenes so I can cut it out

  • @PickPickBoom
    @PickPickBoom 5 років тому

    Very good info! Thanks for sharing!

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  5 років тому

      thank you for the kind words I'm glad it helps

    • @PickPickBoom
      @PickPickBoom 5 років тому

      @@HelpfulLockPicker I have learned a lot from your videos since I found your channel, many thanks!

  • @frequencydecline5250
    @frequencydecline5250 7 років тому

    This was excellent

  • @jimm596ify
    @jimm596ify 4 роки тому

    Hi helpful lockpicker so are you saying that you should not buy a lock without a key this is a great video thanks

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 роки тому

      I would have to re-watch the video. I personally like having a key to the lock I am working on. It helps me verify it is working and makes servicing the lock easier

    • @jimm596ify
      @jimm596ify 4 роки тому

      @@HelpfulLockPicker hi helpful lockpicker can I ask your advice can a lock still be picked if any of the springs are broken and would the key still work thanks Jim

  • @andytap560
    @andytap560 5 років тому

    I think ive bent my hook and keep
    Oversetting the first 2 pins.will invest it better hooks.good demo

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  5 років тому

      Thank you for the kind words and I hope the new set you order will help :-)

  • @strawberryblaze8693
    @strawberryblaze8693 3 роки тому

    17/86 videos watched!

  • @eagleeyeviewimages
    @eagleeyeviewimages Рік тому

    Nice video

  • @sarpgezer6772
    @sarpgezer6772 4 роки тому

    I've been having problems SPP'ing a lock and it feels like there is only one binding pin, but I can't get it to go up without forcing it. So my question is: how do you proceed when ther is only a single pin binding, but you can not get it to set even when (not) going easy on them?
    I have been able to rake the lock without problem and it is only a simple five pin lock, so I highly doubt there are security pins.
    PS I love your channel it is more than helpful and simply amazing

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 роки тому

      Is it a lock with all standard pins? I might increase tension and see what happens

  • @Roadshome
    @Roadshome Рік тому

    Hi, great channel and you have been a fantastic help. working my way through your videos. Ive been picking about 4 months now, making slow improvements with your and locknoobs great videos as a learning source . Here's my question. bought a few cheap euro locks from ebay. one i am having problems with is I get very little feel from any of the pins. I can rake it open fairly easy, but find single pin picking impossible as the springs are so light and the pins are not tight in the holes and dont give much feedback. how would you deal with this. ?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  Рік тому

      If there are not security pins I increase tension and you will typically get better feedback. I try to use top of keyway (TOK) when I can. Some of the euro locks have tight keyways and sometimes the pick dampens the feedback if it is scraping the warding

  • @lockmania-locks
    @lockmania-locks 5 років тому

    Good info my friend, great video.

  • @jamesbaumfeld6126
    @jamesbaumfeld6126 7 років тому +1

    That was a very good video for beginners nice job.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  7 років тому

      James Baumfeld Thank you for the kind words. I hope it will be helpful and I am happy to get some positive feedback:)

  • @Leonslockpad
    @Leonslockpad 7 років тому

    Very nice my friend great info😎😎👍😊👍😊😊

  • @bird718
    @bird718 5 років тому

    yeah front ot back works better for me and i always thought you were suppose to pick back to front.

  • @adammfanning3654
    @adammfanning3654 5 років тому

    Can you comment on “high-low, high low’s usefulness in challenge locks. Also, died the binding order give special opportunities? Thanks.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 роки тому

      That combination makes it easier to overset pins with the shaft of the pick

  • @johnanzelone1305
    @johnanzelone1305 3 роки тому

    Can you grind the top of the pick to get more space

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  3 роки тому

      You could reduce the shank height but it could make it more likely to snap

  • @RevJoe98
    @RevJoe98 2 роки тому

    What do I do if the pin just keeps being springy and doesn't ever set?

  • @aldocoin
    @aldocoin 2 роки тому

    which hook is that deeper hook you are using? Thanks

  • @AlexanderSchmidt-vn3te
    @AlexanderSchmidt-vn3te 2 роки тому

    Should i use alway the deeper hook ?

  • @jaywhoisit4863
    @jaywhoisit4863 5 років тому

    I’m frustrated. Why don’t I hear “clicks”. I hear scratchy scraping and hollow thuds. I’ve tried so many locks and this “click” just never sounds like it does on UA-cam.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  5 років тому +2

      I do feel like the microphone picks it up a bit better than what you hear in real life. The clicks are a nice thing but you should focus mostly on the tactile feedback. That is where you are going to have the most reliable feedback which will allow you to grow faster.

  • @bernard512tr
    @bernard512tr 2 роки тому

    How to defeat inner and outer pins?

  • @jimm596ify
    @jimm596ify 4 роки тому

    So what is the answer if you can't get a deeper hook in the keyway

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  4 роки тому

      You can try to increase tension to help stop over setting, pick back-to-front, etc.

    • @jimm596ify
      @jimm596ify 4 роки тому

      @@HelpfulLockPicker OK thanks helpful lockpicker

  • @bmbullman
    @bmbullman 7 років тому

    Doesn't a 7-1-5-4-1 bitting violate MACS though?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  7 років тому +2

      I believe Schlage has a MACS of 7 but I do not remember off the top of my head.

  • @TwistedIntentions79
    @TwistedIntentions79 6 років тому

    have any tools you dont need that can get me started?

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  6 років тому

      twisted intentions you can get started pretty cheaply but stay tuned for giveaways to come down the road :) banggood.com sells the cheaper supplies

  • @raygodwin3496
    @raygodwin3496 3 роки тому

    Starting from the back for added feedback especially if your having trouble going from front to back I think is a brilliant tactic. Do you ever start in the middle? Or hopefully by then your going off the feedback the lock is giving you..? Letting off tention just a really tiny bit at key points is something I just started doing and I think im starting to get what you mean about skillful tentioning..barely but its progress and shit is interesting. A lot of locks are surprisingly simple. The lock im currently trying to pick is the ABUS 83/45 series2. Been 4 days on and havnt got it yet. But ive been distrscted with life so havnt givin it that full attention a task like this deserves. ...lifes a bitch, and then you die. Thanks for sharing your extensive knowledge of the craft and opening doors in my life.

    • @HelpfulLockPicker
      @HelpfulLockPicker  3 роки тому

      Thank you for sharing. I do try to pick from the middle sometimes. Whatever works, works. I am always just happy to get the lock open :)

  • @jesseparent7558
    @jesseparent7558 5 років тому

    who ever thumb down don't know how to pick

  • @Nienna_Asyare
    @Nienna_Asyare 4 роки тому

    I might not have been paying attention enough, but where was the false set?
    Edit: UA-cam must be psychic or have spies or something bc the very next video I watched covered that lol

  • @evanschultz1439
    @evanschultz1439 5 років тому

    Is your cat purring in the background?