GBO2 ZZ Gundam Mass Production Type: It's almost as busted as the Atlas Gundam?!
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2023
- This video contains two recent matches I had with the LV1 Mass Production ZZ Gundam on Gundam Battle Operation 2. It is a 600 cost general with two strong instant stuns, a low overheat time chest shotgun, a fast downswing with great power, a powerful back missile launcher that can nuke downswung enemies, the powerful combination of Maneuver Armor and Damage Control along with a Hi-Mega Cannon that heavy staggers the enemy and can be charged while moving. It has no real weaknesses other than not being particularly bulky and only having 125 walking speed, it can handle just about any situation without much effort. This suit is incredibly busted, just below the Atlas Gundam in terms of power. I find it to be a pretty boring suit so I didn't push myself to grind for super high damage games, but both these games should still show off the potential of the MP ZZ. I hope that you enjoy watching!
Its primary weapon is a beam rifle with 2400 power, 4 ammo, 5.5 seconds cooldown, 12 seconds reload, 400m range, 0.77 seconds swap time and 10% stagger value. This has good enough cooldown and high damage, so it serves as an effective combo starter.
Its primary melee weapon is a beam saber with 2300 power, 2.5 seconds cooldown and 80%x2 downswing modifier. This has a very fast two hit downswing to confirm knockdowns with. The damage it can confirm is immense, with it being possible to combo into all backpack missiles and then finish with another downswing.
Its first sub weapon is a vulcan gun with 50x2 power, 40 ammo, 175m range, 450 RPM, 6 seconds reload, 750 DPS and 3%x2 stagger value. This has solid enough stagger value and DPS but the ammo is low.
Its second sub weapon is a pair of shoulder cannons with 1200x2 power, 80% heat, 400m range, 4 seconds cooldown, 20 seconds overheat, 0.77 seconds swap time and 10%x2 stagger value. These have great all round stats for a stop to fire cannon. It can combo into or from your beam rifle for two stuns.
Its third sub weapon is a back missile launcher with 250x2 power, 16 ammo, 350m range, 10 seconds reload, 0.5 seconds swap time and 5%x2 stagger value. The stagger value isn't that great but the missiles fire out very quickly, making them especially useful after a melee downswing. They can also be used at midrange for easy add on damage.
Its fourth sub weapon is a pair of shoulder missile launchers with 150 power, 6 ammo, 300m range, 12 seconds reload and 25% stagger value. These have low damage but pretty okay stagger value, they can also be guided while firing.
Its fifth sub weapon is a chest beam cannon with 250x5x2 power, 90%x2 heat, 200m range, 5 seconds cooldown, 12 seconds overheat time and 18%x5x2 stagger value. This is incredible for both offence and defence, giving you a boost fire capable chest shotgun with 180% total stagger power.
Its sixth sub weapon is a high mega cannon with 700x5 power, 100% heat, 450m range, 60 seconds overheat, 8 seconds focus time and 0.77 seconds swap time. This is basically a weaker version of the ZZ high mega cannon but it can be focused while moving and has less overheat time.
The MP ZZ has 19000 HP, 21 ballistic resist, 25 beam resist and 20 melee resist. The suit has no buffer skills so this level of durability is just ok, maybe even slightly squishy considering the above average size of the suit. Though it has a great combination of defensive skills; with LV1 Maneuver Armor, Damage Control and Emergency Evasion.
It also has 125 walking speed, 215 boosting speed, 70 thrust and 69 turning speed. It has average mobility other than the walking speed being 5 less than normal, but this is still more than the 50 cost higher original ZZ. It has LV2 Forced Injectors and Flight Control as is standard for this cost.
It also has a unique skill called Pursuit Ranged Aux. Program, which boosts ranged damage dealt to knocked over enemies by 15%. This pairs really well with your missiles to nuke enemies.
Overall I feel like this suit is just way too overtuned for 600 cost. It has a huge advantage over other suits, especially in close range. It is nearly impossible to approach this thing as a melee suit when it has two strong instant staggers and a chest shotgun that can stop you no matter what. Raids are nearly instantly killed in one combo as well since the shotgun easily stops Maneuver Armor, the missile launcher follow-up just tears through raids HP. I think this suit deserves a nerf to make it more in line with 600 cost. It would probably be enough to remove Damage Control, raise the overheat time on the chest shotgun to 18 seconds and maybe to increase the reload time for the missile launcher. This suit is definitely worth rolling for if you are on PC, it isn't difficult to use either. Thanks for watching, and I hope that you enjoyed it!
Music used:
Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga 2, Hunting ~Surprise Raid~
Dynasty Warriors Gundam 2, A Good Thing is Possible - Ігри
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I never thought I'd see the day...
Moving chargeable hyper mega cannon....
We have atlas and MPZZ running around decimating everything, yet they want to nerf the mod dijeh because of the funny haha meme bazooka
I think Modified Rick Dijeh got that buff cause Atlas and MPZZ caused raids stats to be worse. Surely they can see the issue lol.
This MS really breaks balance of the game. No need Raid and Support MS anymore if you can get this ONE by luck.
I hope it will be nerfed soon
I would of never guessed. I have it, but I don’t pilot gm’s.
This game has a habit of giving suits seen as mediocre in the lore a LOT of flexibility. Look at the Re-GZ in this game for further proof.
@@coltonstone6472I don't think the Re-GZ was mediocre at all. It stood up well against a Jagd Doga and nearly destroyed it, and actually beat its Psyco Doga counterpart in Beltorchika's Children. People really hated the heavy attack, but they nerfed the shooting capability and it really showed that was what carried it. Now it's fallen down towards the level of the Bawoo, both of which are still good suits, but could actually use some little buffs. Specifically giving them some maneuverability in the air, as they're both supposed to be flying MS.
@@scottwrathfon9872 that was due to Amuro being its pilot specifically. If you actually read up on the Re-GZ, it failed to meet any of its goals and is actually considered inferior to the Zeta Gundam line. Which is sad considering that suit was made 6 years earlier.
his down attacl animation too fast for some reason..
Since they buff a bunch of 600 raids last month, I think they'll buff/nerf 600 general this month, tristan will finally be freed from its mediocre jail.
Tristan vs MPZZ is such a cruel joke. It has two instant staggers and a chest shotgun, but you only have charge beam rifle or 200 cost sturmfaust for staggers. You can't even realistically stun it with arm gatling cause it has Damage Control, and it has much better damage output than you do lol. Downswing damage like for like, Tristan does slightly more. Much less when you consider missiles punish after downswing.
Tbh i havent seen a good MPZZ player yet in my time of playing. You easily prove how easily the MPZZ can stomp people.
Here it be....the mass produced and better version of the original.
15 more walk speed and 3 more turning speed than the real ZZ somehow, AND it gets Damage Control....
It's just unreasonable how much better this suit is, once it gets its LV2 it's over. They gotta give what they gave this suit to regular ZZ, and maybe some more melee resistance while they're at it. How are they gonna give this thing DC and then NOT give it to ZZ the following adjustment? That MS is NEVER played for the most part over many other 650 options.
@@sero8586hell, i dunno, at least give ZZ high mega cannon you can charge while walk/boosting
Or even better, high mega cannon you can bend, while being able to walk with it
Its a freakin gundam!
I mean, at least it's accurate to the lore?
“Almost” I honestly think it is better
Honestly i hate this suit more than atlas (but its very close). Not that its better but every game has 1 if not 3 mp-zzs, while I can go a few matches without any atlas at all. Dont know why that is though.
Ease of use probably. Any bum can pick up MPZZ and do well but it takes a good player to really make you rage with Atlas lol.
@avenger1_gbo260 that actually makes a lot of sense. Explains why everyone runs the same units lol
Drop rate also matter to
Atlas is 4*, MPZZ is 2*
Another problem with this suit (aside from it being busted at 600) is that it's only a 2* suit.
I see a lot of people saying they see these way more than atlas and well, that's because atlas is a 4* suit that you had to get luck to pull or did the step up for 195 tokens.
Being a 2* suit means it's much easier for everyone to get their hands on this suit which in turn causes a large influx of it showing up in matches.
Of course if the suit wasn't so strong this wouldn't be an issue but it's just the cherry on top of this hot mess sundae.
First match I got into, 4 of us including me started the queue with it except for one guy in atlas. By the end, our team went in with 2 and so did the enemy team.
Didn’t even get one
Thanks for showing me the Amazing potential the unique numbers suits in the game. It help me to master ATLAS Gundam as a New GBO2 Steam player thank you, It helps me to love this game. I hope next time you can show us how terrifying "NERO TRAINER".
This suit is such a headache to go against i get tilted when it does the knockdown into missile combo great video:)
Nice OST Choice. Digital Devil Saga is definitely an underrated gem.
just had a match where 3 of these guys shut down EVERYONE, like holy moly it was not fun at all even trying to flank them
god bless bamco for designing a mp monster
Huh. And when I rolled for this thing, I got TWO of them, immediately getting me the first level of enhancement.
Suppose I need to get good with it.
I love the color scheme tho
This song.
Ok avenger.
Only real way I found to deal with these things is the Jesta and that heavily relies on the enemy not thinking when they approach me. It's an absolute menace.
Sometimes I wonder what's the thought process or rules of giving what skills to what MS? The manuever armor really comes out of nowhere while the Hyaku Shiki Kai is suffering
surprised no reload parts. ive been messing with a high reload part build and aprat from the squish, the missile and rifle uptime is pretty useful
Both this and the Atlas are suits i have and barely use. Though the Atlas at least requires a level of skill to really use all its tools. The MP ZZ just has simple and powerful tools for most every situation, including the MA+DC combination with a downsizing that makes most raids jealous.
Yet BB will probably take the approach of buffing more of the 600 roster, while giving relatively minor nerfs to this. And im personally jealous that they haven't at least buffed the ZZ to match. Though im going to enjoy FINALLY getting the Todesritter after two years, when it is just past its prime, bit still usable.
I'll take the matchup against Atlas everytime over this thing, personally. Both are nasty and posess crazy abilities that dont belong in 600. However, I really want a 650 Atlas to deal all the annoying transforming suits in that cost
What if they lowered the stagger accumulation value of some of it's weapons instead? I feel that would make it more manageable to fight against since he can't just chain stagger you.
this thing has been out on PC for not even a week and I already hate and despise it with all my heart. Honestly I don't have any problems with Atlas, they're much rarer and harder to utilize as opposed to the ZZMP which is everywhere because everyone and their mother has one
Just when I think I can't like your videos even more, you bust out the SMT music again. Great gameplay and great music!
This is the MS that nobody I know how to use because I always get folded in it
Bamco forgot to add beam coating on this one.
Hello, I'm looking for advice:
I have done the half off on this suit banner, and didn't get it, I have calculated that if I do the dailies every day until end of next week I'll have enough for the entire sazabi+the second step of this, do I risk it and hope I can take the three tokens every day or do I save only for sazabi?
Thank you in advance
I would recommend saving for Sazabi FF. It comes with a very powerful custom part and you will probably get a good selection of suits during the 70 pulls of that step up.
@@avenger1_gbo260 thank you for the quick answer, I'll probably do just that, also your gameplay is always amazing
That modified dijeh and its meme bazooka pisses me off way more than this thing.
it is kinda sad how raid is at such a severe disadvantage in 600. So hard to be effective when atlas and this run around everywhere
Avenger...what do you mean *almost*
This thing has the same full combo as the Regelgu
Only difference is it has ONE EXTRA CHEST SHOTGUN FOR THAT UNHINGED STUN DURATION
I can't stand the MPZZ, maneuver armor, dodges, a HMC you can charge while moving, multiple instant stuns- one of which can be fired while boosting, and a whole lot of HP. I thought Mass Productions were supposed to be worse than the MS they're derived from yet this thing is better than the actual ZZ in just about every conceivable way. This thing needs to have it's ankles broken.
Everyone complains about Atlas Gundam but Hamma Hamma treats them like a skeet shoot?
Look a powered GM can make a Nero Trainer life hell, if the Nero plays like an ape. That doesnt make fighting the Nero trainer fun either with it's bloated kit, same goes for the Atlas
My Zeta Gundam Suffers due to this shit suit. Needs a nerf tbh.