I’ve lived in NYC for over 60 years and it seems like I’ve been hearing about the 2nd avenue line being built as far as I can remember but it wasn’t until I had to commute to work on the East side, specifically 2nd ave, that I really understood how serious the need was . Those buses feed workers going to the Wall Street and City Hall sections of Manhattan and they were always packed like sardines until about 10:30am no matter how many buses came.
The biggest MISTAKE that the city made was, removing the Second Ave El before a suitable replacement for it could be built. I'm not a native of New York and live on Staten Island and have heard them proposing the restoration of rapid transit train service west of the Staten Island Ferry Terminal for decades now. The only thing that they've done so far, was restoring freight service on the Staten Island Railroads western most portion back in 2007. East of Arlington Yard, the portion to St George is still forlorn and abandoned, since the last freight trains used it in 1991.
@@scooter4143 Bill DeBlasio said they would do it in 2015. When you ask anyone in the area, even the councilman nobody has been contacted about it. So what does that tell you? They never did it. It’s going in 7 years. They haven’t had a real start only posting that they will
How fucking hard can it be? Just build 2 tracks straight down the big ass street, not interrupting much of anything. Elevate it after Clarendon, there’s nothing there except auto shops THE WHOLE WAY to FLATBUSH!!! Maybe 2 strips of residences in the extreme south, but it’s a vast minority
2029 🤣 More like 2099. Don't make us laugh. People here in Queens want a direct train that connects to The Bronx and Brooklyn without having to go to Manhattan. Places that don't have train lines that desperately need one are Maspeth, Middle Village, East Elmhurst, and everywhere in the Bayside Queens area. LaGuardia still doesn't have a train line. Everyone's stuck with the slow LaGuardia link buses.
My solutions for transit desserts and an alternative to subway extensions in outer boroughs (aside from Astoria extension into LaGuardia airport) You can build and improve on the express bus system by introducing off peak fares and creating park and ride lots in certain areas. In some cases express fares are relative to bridge/tunnel tolls anyway it’s better than paying an ADDITIONAL congestion price fee. Also utilize commuter rail in city limits especially since ridership isn’t were it once was city residents can help fill up certain empty seats!
The JFK train to the plane in the 1970s was a financial disaster for the TA so it was ended because of the cost and the minuscule ridership; 2 people on a 4 car train going to archer avenue where they would have to take a cab anyway.. Nobody wanted or wants to haul their luggage down into the subway. And by the way, bus service in queens is so extensive you can get any where in queen and even the Bronx.
@@grazz7865 the "8" train, which was demolished due to lack of maintenance. I find it to be a huge mistake to demolish it instead of saving it but the city said it was unsafe.
@@captainkeyboard1007 The NYC Politicians have the funding, so they should continue with the Eastside Subway extension. However, it’s going to be Flooded and Water Damaged so often, that they will have to repair/rebuildit every 3-5 years.
@@PHN-2024 We cannot predict the future. It is very unlikely that the tunnels would be flooded like the New York City subway old tunnels that were built in the 1900s score. Those tunnels were built close to the street levels. The modern subway tunnels and the East Side Access tunnels are were built much deeper than the street surfaces. Therefore, they are not prone to strong floods of water streaming down the tracks and into the stations. I must mention that the New York train trestles that were called the els need to be maintained three to five years. Thank you for tapping or typing to me.
@@qjtvaddict NEPA is only a part of the problem. Corrupt unions and politicians and nepotism are the other half. Investigate the unions and watch costs come down.
My solutions for transit desserts and an alternative to subway extensions in outer boroughs (aside from Astoria extension into LaGuardia airport) You can build and improve on the express bus system by introducing off peak fares and creating park and ride lots in certain areas. In some cases express fares are relative to bridge/tunnel tolls anyway it’s better than paying an ADDITIONAL congestion price fee. Also utilize commuter rail in city limits especially since ridership isn’t were it once was city residents can help fill up certain empty seats!
@@jerrypeukert5732 have patience, you do know that they have been planning this train line for almost a decade, and almost a century to even upgrade. Lmao
@@jamallhayden2512 Good idea! There was talk of using the same type of subway trains as the BMT Standards for the Long Island Railroad for its borders with Nassau county and charging the same fare as city subway riders, but the Long Island Railroad had staid with its traditional 2 doors per side that allows for more seats for passengers. Both companies had at one time an adjustable third rail shoe that changed its position from different dimensions of their third rail.
The MTA will never run the subway via commuter or freight rail tracks. That would mean that it has to be regulated as a railroad rather than a transit agency, which would be far more stringent.
@@kirkrotger9208 Also they couldn’t “easily build over” the tracks 😂 It would be a multi billion dollar feat of engineering that barely anyone would use.
Let the 8 trains run back on the south Bronx between Gun hill road and Clearmount Avenue Webster Ave to Frordam Road and 125 street connecting to the 4 5 6 metro North Q T trains.
The Q T trains is already booked up for East 125 street. Used the extra iRT lines like the 8 or the 10 trains could run on the south Bronx 3rd Avenue Elevated line between Gun hill road and Clearmount Avenue Webster Ave Bronx up to east side 125 street connecting to the 4 5 6 Q T trains and the Metro North railroad.
Finally! Thank goodness! I can't wait until the Second Avenue Subway Phase 2 is completed in 2029. It will definitely benefit Harlem and the Upper East Side of Manhattan. I support the project. That's progress. Thank you New York City.
I bet it would be 2031 when I'll be actually in that stop. The Phase 2 construction should've started back in 2019. If I'm there in 2029, I'll admit being wrong.
@@LatinSith Hate to say it but you are likely correct. I am sure this will get done. However as snags always occurs in construction (even with much of the tunnel between 125th and 96th partially built)so an opening a year or two past '29 is very possible.
since this is build from scratch, suggesting air condition station and automatic safety sliding door on the edge of the platform which remain closed untill the train stopped
People should stop and think that getting all this stuff may make us feel good but You have to stop and think that the money is being provided to BUILD the additions, not maintain it. The riders will be responsible to pay for the additional subway cars, maintenance, repairs and personal through higher fares. A good analogy would be, some one gives you a brand new Rolls Royce for free and tells you, all you have to do is pay for the the maintenance. As the saying goes " be careful what you wish for, you just may get it"!
@@darkpisces8125 Its always easier to spend other peoples money. By the way I have lived in the New York City city all my life and worked for NYCTA for 36 years.
The "Transit Wish List" is nothing more than a rehash of parts of the proposed "2nd Subway System" from 1929. You can find a lot of information about it on-line. History shows that it took 7 years to build the original 8th Avenue Line and it took only 4 years to build the original Interborough Rapid Transit subway from City Hall Loop to 96th Street. The 2nd and 3rd Avenue "Els" were torn down, in part, on the promise that a new 2nd Avenue subway would be built from Lower Manhattan to the Bronx. At least 50 years later, we're still waiting for it. Sad.
Extend the 7 down to 14th Street,and have it connect with the L (extending the L to 10th Avenue, and the 7 could have stops at 28th, 23rd and 14th Sts, running along 10th Avenue)
I like your idea, BUT they didn't want to add a stop at 41st & 10 Ave during the 34th Street extension, you really think they'll add 3 stops PLUS one more on the L.
@@michaelmarino7391 they were supposed to make studies to bring back the 10th avenue station plan on the 7 line, but I guess they don't got time to study it
@@michaelmarino7391 True. They should have definitely added a 10th Avenue stop at 42nd. I think this whole thing was just more to promote Hudson Yards than anything else
I think they should have the T train run into Brooklyn once phase 3 and 4 are done. Like have it run though it's own tunnel under the river.. Then connect it to the A and C at Hort St via court st(Transit Museum). That would greatly improve Train frequency on the local tracks running towards eculid.
@@Dezlite In my opinion, I suggest a new line called the K line to go along with the T line with 2 new underwater tunnels to be expended to Brooklyn. Make a new stop called "Atlantic Avenue - Court Street" station, 2 blocks away from the Transit Museum to connect with 2 lines. For the K line, next stop / Hoyt-Schemerhorn Street with the 2, 3, A, C, G & H trains. For the T line, next stop / 7th Avenue on the express track with the F & G trains. That's how I'd like to see in the future. 🗽🚇🛤
I hope they don’t waste money on extra unnecessary infrastructure. Millions in art work and unnecessary crew facilities. It’s sad really we built more then 300 stations in the first couple decades now we can only do 3 stations in a decade. If they want to whole second ave line just dig up the road and do it cut and cover like the early subway. Let me be in charge I will get it done right
Considering how much this small extension is going to cost and how much money the MTA has just been handed, I feel like there are so many better things to spend this money on. Signals have problems so frequently, cutting service at the worst times on most lines, underground staircases become waterfalls when it rains too hard, we are still using train cars from the 1970s, we have no barriers that prevent people from falling/being pushed onto the tracks (unlike in many foreign subways), ADA compliant stations remain few and far between in the outer boroughs, and many transit deserts exist throughout the city as is. I'm sure that this extension would do a lot for Harlem, but I'm not confident that it would have nearly the magnitude of effect that revamping existing portions would.
All of these problems are being tackled. Why do you think the MTA is doing nothing about it? New R211 cars are on their way to replace old subway cars. They are also installing modern signalling on many subway lines, which will increase speeds. Its called CBTC, and the E, F, M, and R lines are being worked on and is almost complete. This all just takes time. Accessibility is being added at numerous stations as well.
Illogical,send the 7 train to New Jersey and the x train too,and both have a the same last stop in New Jersey,so people can transfer without leaving the station.
@@vincentguzman7056 the path train should go under Central Park and have two stations in the park,110st station with a transfer to the 2 and 3 train,59st,49:42.
First it was 2024... then 2027 (Understandable that the pandemic slowed a lot of production down)... NOW It's 2029??? WTF MTA??? It was originally supposed to be completed in the 1970's! I likely won't even be living in NYC in 2029. 🤦🏿♂️
Yep. In fact the old TA placed an order for, I believe, 100 subway cars that were to be used on the 2nd Ave. Subway. Only 10 were delivered before the contract was halted and only 1 remains in service as a Museum Car.
Phase 3 should be going across 125th to at least Broadway, ideally to riverside park. We have more than enough down town already, we don;'t need more stops within a block of existing stops. We need a cross town above central park, and 125th is the perfect place to link tons of subways with 4 transfers and between 5 and 6 new stations between the existing lines.
They used to always say they can't ever build barriers along the train tracks so passengers won't accidentally fall onto the tracks becsuse its too expensive to build. They say it cost about 1 billion dollars. But now they are spending billion dollars to dig a tunnel just to make 3 more stops. So now they can't have any excuse, they have the funding, but chose to do something else. As if people don't die many times a year from falling and being ran over by a train. Stupid
It’s a little more complicated than that because many lines are inter-operated and there are multiple types of trains that each line has with different door alignments, so adding platform screen doors would require an absolute standard, and ordering all-new trains to fit that door standard. I agree with you though… several billions to build tiny sections of tunnel? That’s absurd, and barriers are very important for safety. I believe there was a pilot plan to add platform screen doors to the L line pre-pandemic, but they got either shelved or canceled.
@@Tony_515 yea I agree with you . The MTA use to be different companies and each like and station , tunnels etc are vastly different. So on paper it doable but logistical it would be a nightmare to do and is it really worth it at the end when other stuff needs major attention.
Wishful thinking = a north-south line across the Veranzano Bridge, parallel to the East River, to the Triboro Bridge and across into the Bronx, making a turn to the west along/parallel to the Cross Bronx Expressway, and across the George Washington Bridge. Widely spaced express stops, at east-west junctions/transfer points on Long Island and north-south junctions/transfer points in the Bronx.
The old elevated lines supported the wooden trains. The weight of the steel trains would've been too much. Plus, some New Yorkers didn't like the sight or sounds of the elevated trains in their neighborhoods.
@@LatinSith And the proposed 2nd Avenue Subway was going to replace the elevated lines. Of course, that never happened. As for the weight of trains on the elevated lines, remember that Chicago has "The Loop"; elevated and running today's equipment.
We need a Manhattan Project level effort to manage costs on our subway construction in this country. Seoul is building 120 miles mostly tunneled with 30 stations of a hybrid subway-high speed rail network for $11 billion USD. Set to cut travel times by 2/3.
Man I can’t wait until 2040 and $13 billion later when the thing finally opens. From people who once needed it and moved away from the filth and refuse, too little too late
They should continue the 125th Street leg all the way to Broadway thus linking all the MTA tunnels there. (I'm not from NYC but visited enough times to get familiar with it.)
There's a fault line that prohibits digging near Broadway and 125th st. It's the reason the 1 train comes aboveground for 1 stop before dipping back underground. They couldn't connect a tunnel the entire way along 125th but they could make it pretty far.
@@MrBluebirds22 well that's a good thought for sure. But standing on top of the platform and looking in both directions would disprove that. Also all Manhattan trains were reconfigured to be underground lines a while back. Which is why even though the ABCD lines have a similar issue (crossing the valley) they remain underground the entire way.
@@nyctransitrailfan Actually what is being seriously looked at is an extension of the N/W to LGA after the Cuomo LGA AirTran was cancelled right after his resignation. In this new plan, the N/W would have a new spur line travel "nonstop" along the Grand Central Parkway Highway between Astoria Blvd/RFK Triboro Bridge Station and the terminals at the Airport.
This is just my opinion this whole thing has already been over 6 billion I believe and imo they can make the stations nice and modern asl but they shouldn't do the whole grand station type of thing like they did with 63 72 86 and 96 but just a regular sized station Just my opinion but I absolutely love the 2nd ave subway tho favorite easily
Better than nothing, but the original plan called for 4 tracks (6 tracks in certain sections) and not to long ago a three track 72nd Street station. But instead we got the 6th Avenue line. Just imagine all the money that could have been saved with 34th Street to about 8th Street, not adding the cost of tunneling under both the Broadway BMT/IRT and the EL. Amazing what corruption does to a potentially good system. We did not need 6th Avenue. We already had PATH, which should have been extended to 57th Street. The Broadway BMT with it more useful transfers. So yeah! West 4th Street. But we had Christopher Street and that extended 8th Avenue L transfer. So all this talk about extending this practically in a circle is basically, at least we getting some. But a Bronx connection to at least 149th Street and 3rd Avenue would have been much better, because of the #2 westside line.
Phase 2 should extend west on 125th at least to the A/D line, with a connection to the 2/3 line as well. A Bronx to Queens direct line is needed. Maybe extend the G line so there would be a Bronx/ Queens/ Brooklyn line without going through Manhattan. Lets alleviate unnecessary Manhattan overcrowding and serve the public as well.
Queens Subway Lines need more help too, Flushing Line/Archer Ave Line/Astoria Line/Queens Blvd/ too Eastern Queens. A subway line that connects the Rockaways from Queens Blvd
@@jamal2982 No. Long Island is 2 counties east of the borough of Queens.Nassau county is first, and Suffolk is second with the lower peninsula of Montauk being the most eastern terminal at Montauk Point.
@@henrymanzano9168 Majority of SI residents are probably from BR, Bensonhurst, Mill Basin. But from those I know on SI many of them are NOT taking the subway to Brooklyn.
There needs to be a train connection between the Bronx and Queens. People have to go through Manhattan on the train in order to do that makes trips so much longer than it should be.
What popped in my head is if they're exploring a way to get from Brooklyn to Staten Island. I suggest doing is turning the three lane lower level of the Verrazano to a two Lane. Then using the middle third lane as a track for trains to go across.
This proposal was studied back in the 1950's or early '60's as a possible R Line extension, into Staten Island from 95Th St in Brooklyn, but was rejected by Robert Moses. He wanted his bridge to be "untrain friendly", as much as possible. And honestly, I don't think the Verrazano Bridge would be able to withstand all of the weight and the vibrations of those subway trains crossing the bridge from Staten Island to Brooklyn and vice versa. (The Verrazano Bridge is too long to make train friendly probably.) Each subway car is equipped with two ten ton air conditioner systems, transformers, fluorescent light ballasts and other electrical equipment that makes each car weigh in at least 60 - 70 tons per car. (The heaviest are the R68 and R68A type cars weighing in at 90 Tons.) And considering the fact that most subway trains have a consist of typically eight cars per train, all of this weight could cause the Verrazano Bridge to sway probably severely and compromise it's structural integrity. From what I understand, there was a tunnel constructed in the 1910's between Staten Island and Brooklyn, that would have connected the Staten Island Rapid Transit (now the Staten Island Railway) to the 59Th Street Station of the N & R Line at Forth Ave. Then under Governor Smith, his administration defunded this project and he ordered cement to be poured over both of the portals of this tunnel, on both the Staten Island side and the Brooklyn side. (No tracks were ever installed in this tunnel) It was rumored that he did this because Gov Smith owned stocks of share in the Pennsylvania Railroad and the Staten Island Railroad was owned by the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad originally. (The PRR was the B&O's "arch rival") One can still find evidence of the tunnel being "covered up", on both the Brooklyn and the Staten Island sides: on the Brooklyn side, at the 59Th Street N & R station, if you look at the tunnel walls of the local trackways on both sides, towards the middle of the station platform, there's indentations that are slightly angled and covered up. (These indentations are wide enough for a train) Then on the Staten Island side, if you ever take a ride on what locals here call the "Toonerville Trolley", going to Tottenville, while your on the train departing St George, looking to your right before the train enters the 500' 1880's built rock wall tunnel that goes underneath the old Coast Guard Station. You'll see a "newer" concrete slab next to the existing tunnel portal. This is where the tunnel portal that would have connected Staten Island to Brooklyn was cemented over, sometime in the late 1910's or early 1920's. I think if train service was to ever be connected between Staten Island and Brooklyn, this is probably what would be deployed to make that happen, rather than having subways cross the Verrazano Bridge. (There is a proposal to do this in the not too distant future.) They would have to remove the concrete that was poured over the tunnel portals about a century ago, would probably need to drain the tunnel as I imagine it would have more than likely been flooded by now and make the necessary repairs as needed, add the tracks and trains will roll through. However, before the MTA spends any money on improving transit on Staten Island, I think their priority is completing the Second Ave Subway before anything is ever done on Staten Island. As of right now, the Staten Island Railway is connected to the National Freight Rail Network and not to the rest of the N.Y.C.T.A. Subway lines.
@@joshbenton4080 Yes. Even if they build a Subway line to Staten Island they should consider removing the cement walls in the formerly proposed Staten Island Subway Tunnel, renovate the tunnels to accommodate modern trains, and extend the existing tunnel construction to Staten Island to connect with the Staten Island Railway. Once all 4 phases of the Second Avenue Subway are completed sometime in the 2040’s they should build the tunnel to expand NYC Subway service to Staten Island for the first time. The MTA should also consider building the AirTrain LGA once the new LaGuardia Airport is completed, expand the new Penn Station once East Side Access is completed in 2023, and finish the Gateway Tunnel in New Jersey. These projects will definitely benefit New York City’s economy for the 21st century and provide a prosperous future for New York City for many years to come.
There were plans for that and I believe that there is unused trackway on one of the old BMT Lines. Plan was to tunnel under the Narrows to connect the Staten Island Rapid Transit with the NYC Subway. Plan was apparently scotched when the bridge was built.
It’s great get it done! Just make sure the city get all the drug addicts and criminals in 125th out and having much more police presence 24/7. 125th is zombie land
@@HelloooThere I cannot speak for Gracious Great God, but He knows what will happen and what will not happen, better than us. We know not what will happen. Our Gracious Great God is all-knowing and that is the truth. If I were you, I would not worry about a thing. By the way, Kapish is cute.
Omg, this is the worst thing to happen to the 96st Q line. Its ACTUALLY a half ass decent ride between 34th and 96th... Now that this is going into the warzone we know as Harlem, its absolutely going to be like the rest of the subway lines, which is filled with our prestigious uptown folk. The only good thing is that this project will probably not finish for another 8 years.
@@sdcheung its actually called the Q line, The 2nd avenue run is the extension. Whats not funny is that youre calling it the Second avenue subway line while calling out someone else for what you think is incorrect. The last stop on the Q line is 96th st. Go back to queens.
@@nyctransitrailfan 106th St on 2nd Ave line is a good train station stop. Been around that area long street and good for two way traffic. Nice street location for it.
@@Dezlite I said that it was a total failure and should not come back in its original form,it will come back with the 8 train local and the 9 train go express on the proposed Utica avenue line.
Got delayed by COVID Dino. They are hoping to start the Queens Bus resign sometime in 2023. The Bronx Bus Redesign is next sometime in the Summer or early Fall of '22.
Considering all the "infrastructure money" that Texas is donating to NYC in the BILLIONS [along with other Not-New York places] I have a bit of a vested interest in extending the Q line up 2nd Avenue. So for MY part, could you please TRY to get this done close to on time and reasonably near budget?? Here in Dallas we built a 22 mile light rail line from the Northwest Suburbs through downtown and on to Southeast Dallas. Cost? $1.8 Billion. On time. On budget. It can be done!! Anyways........ glad [somewhat] to be of help. [ebil grin]
I thought back in 1976 that that the 2nd Ave Subway was going to stop in the Bowery and Canal Street. The time Confucius plaza was being built in Chinatown. I thought the 2 nd Ave could of went South and the next stop would be Chatham Square and finally at City Hall!
The original designs for a 2nd Ave. Subway ran from Lower Manhattan to somewhere in Upper Manhattan, if not to the Bronx. I believe those design plans are still in play; only question is when does play begin.
@@ddrdanganvloger2187 You must be from out of town or never been to NYC. Locals call it the Verrazano Bridge (named after the Italian Explorer in the 1500/1600's). If you say "Staten Island 278 Bridge E" when in NYC, most people will look at you crazy.
@@americangiant1003 I know that it’s called The Verazzanos bridge. I just take my own taste on it. But my point still stands to extend the SIR to either Manhattan or Brooklyn; or even both.
@@ddrdanganvloger2187 Strongly disagree on extending the SIR right now here in 2021/2022. I do agree that back around 1955-'56 when the Verrazano was being built, a SIR tracks connecting to the now "R" line in Bay Ridge should have happened. A better use of any monies now from the so called Biden "Build Back America" and even near future infrastructure projects would be to build a new 24/7 BUS Only lane along the Staten Island Expressway/Verrazano/BQE(278 to the Tunnel to/from Lower Manhattan). Or even a rail extension along the Borough's North Shore along a currently abandoned freight rail tracks connecting it with say NJ Transit train in Elizabeth, NJ. Connecting SIR through New York Harbor would be in the Zillion dollar price tag.
This is bullshit. There never gonna finish. And besides, they should focus on fixing the crappy system we already have, not wasting money on fancy stations.
So moronic they wasted 5 years since Phase 1 was complete to get the green light for this…if you assume an 8-year completion…they could have started in 2016-7 and finished by 2024-25. Still…at least it’s getting built 😂.
Line along Utica Ave is coming to light now. Yea it's time for me to leave Brooklyn. It's going to make neighborhoods like flatlands n mill basin overcrowded now. Sometimes its best to go where trains n buses don't go.
Once the subway goes to Harlem, the line goes downhill. Look at the derelict garbage that crowds the 4, 5, 6 trains, All coming down from Harlem and the Bronx.
Total waste of money Just grifting federal money for a corrupt bunch of politicians and contractors . Pathetic..2029 ! This for 96th to 125th.. .WALK IT
I’ve lived in NYC for over 60 years and it seems like I’ve been hearing about the 2nd avenue line being built as far as I can remember but it wasn’t until I had to commute to work on the East side, specifically 2nd ave, that I really understood how serious the need was . Those buses feed workers going to the Wall Street and City Hall sections of Manhattan and they were always packed like sardines until about 10:30am no matter how many buses came.
The biggest MISTAKE that the city made was, removing the Second Ave El before a suitable replacement for it could be built. I'm not a native of New York and live on Staten Island and have heard them proposing the restoration of rapid transit train service west of the Staten Island Ferry Terminal for decades now. The only thing that they've done so far, was restoring freight service on the Staten Island Railroads western most portion back in 2007. East of Arlington Yard, the portion to St George is still forlorn and abandoned, since the last freight trains used it in 1991.
Just give it another 100 years.
The utica ave line has "been studied" for the last 10 years now.
The funny thing is DeBlasio promised a study his first term. He NEVER even started the study forget construction
@@MIkeDye200202holla same for a 10th avenue station in Manhattan, the station would have been served by the number 7 line
@@scooter4143 Bill DeBlasio said they would do it in 2015. When you ask anyone in the area, even the councilman nobody has been contacted about it. So what does that tell you? They never did it. It’s going in 7 years. They haven’t had a real start only posting that they will
Wasn’t the A and 4 lines to be connected? If I recall correctly that was suppose to be a thing.
How fucking hard can it be? Just build 2 tracks straight down the big ass street, not interrupting much of anything. Elevate it after Clarendon, there’s nothing there except auto shops THE WHOLE WAY to FLATBUSH!!! Maybe 2 strips of residences in the extreme south, but it’s a vast minority
2029 🤣 More like 2099. Don't make us laugh. People here in Queens want a direct train that connects to The Bronx and Brooklyn without having to go to Manhattan. Places that don't have train lines that desperately need one are Maspeth, Middle Village, East Elmhurst, and everywhere in the Bayside Queens area.
LaGuardia still doesn't have a train line. Everyone's stuck with the slow LaGuardia link buses.
My solutions for transit desserts and an alternative to subway extensions in outer boroughs (aside from Astoria extension into LaGuardia airport) You can build and improve on the express bus system by introducing off peak fares and creating park and ride lots in certain areas. In some cases express fares are relative to bridge/tunnel tolls anyway it’s better than paying an ADDITIONAL congestion price fee. Also utilize commuter rail in city limits especially since ridership isn’t were it once was city residents can help fill up certain empty seats!
You think Bayside and fresh meadows area need trains ? I dont think so, many busses here, we good. We got so many busses in bayside
The JFK train to the plane in the 1970s was a financial disaster for the TA so it was ended because of the cost and the minuscule ridership; 2 people on a 4 car train going to archer avenue where they would have to take a cab anyway.. Nobody wanted or wants to haul their luggage down into the subway. And by the way, bus service in queens is so extensive you can get any where in queen and even the Bronx.
@@ChaoticMuchX and the LIRR too
Look up the Triboro Rx proposal, it might be exactly what you're looking for
They should also send he "T" train to the Bronx along 3rd Avenue ending at Fordham Plaza.
That will definitely ease the mind of many commuters.
There was a 3rd Avenue EL for decades that closed back In the 70s for some reason.
@@grazz7865 the "8" train, which was demolished due to lack of maintenance. I find it to be a huge mistake to demolish it instead of saving it but the city said it was unsafe.
@@activecity4051 that would be smart the underground 125th station is a grave mistake
That's if they don't send the T to 125th and send it into the Bronx after 116th. But I highly doubt it. 3rd Ave has the Bx15 which is pretty good tbh
They will finish the 2nd Ave Subway Extensions just in time for the East Side of Manhattan to be Under the East River.
As it may seem to be that as in your comment, I hope that the 2 Avenue Subway extension will proceed forth as soon as possible.
@@captainkeyboard1007 The NYC Politicians have the funding, so they should continue with the Eastside Subway extension. However, it’s going to be Flooded and Water Damaged so often, that they will have to repair/rebuildit every 3-5 years.
@@PHN-2024 We cannot predict the future. It is very unlikely that the tunnels would be flooded like the New York City subway old tunnels that were built in the 1900s score. Those tunnels were built close to the street levels. The modern subway tunnels and the East Side Access tunnels are were built much deeper than the street surfaces. Therefore, they are not prone to strong floods of water streaming down the tracks and into the stations. I must mention that the New York train trestles that were called the els need to be maintained three to five years. Thank you for tapping or typing to me.
In the 22nd century USA is a slow pathetic country that can’t build anything
It’s funny we’re there people like this are so sarcastic
Not sure why it always takes a century to make these upgrades. Makes no sense.
Literally, it’s been 100 years!!!
@@migloz2898 True it was planned in the 1920s with it being a 6 track subway tunnel to Wall Street.
NEPA law. Repeal it and things can get done
@@qjtvaddict NEPA is only a part of the problem. Corrupt unions and politicians and nepotism are the other half. Investigate the unions and watch costs come down.
@@starventure NEPA enables them remove it and you take away their power
GET IT DONE ALREADY!
AND make "Queensway" Transit!
Too many transit deserts in Queens!
There is only so much you can take from the productive red areas of the country, have patience.
My solutions for transit desserts and an alternative to subway extensions in outer boroughs (aside from Astoria extension into LaGuardia airport) You can build and improve on the express bus system by introducing off peak fares and creating park and ride lots in certain areas. In some cases express fares are relative to bridge/tunnel tolls anyway it’s better than paying an ADDITIONAL congestion price fee. Also utilize commuter rail in city limits especially since ridership isn’t were it once was city residents can help fill up certain empty seats!
@@jerrypeukert5732 have patience, you do know that they have been planning this train line for almost a decade, and almost a century to even upgrade. Lmao
Yea it sucks and the 7 train during peak hours is insane . It’s so bad I rather take a slow crowed bus then get on the Million man train .
@@jamallhayden2512 Good idea! There was talk of using the same type of subway trains as the BMT Standards for the Long Island Railroad for its borders with Nassau county and charging the same fare as city subway riders, but the Long Island Railroad had staid with its traditional 2 doors per side that allows for more seats for passengers. Both companies had at one time an adjustable third rail shoe that changed its position from different dimensions of their third rail.
It should be expanded up to the Bronx and they could easily build over metro north tracks to Fordham
The MTA will never run the subway via commuter or freight rail tracks. That would mean that it has to be regulated as a railroad rather than a transit agency, which would be far more stringent.
@@kirkrotger9208 Also they couldn’t “easily build over” the tracks 😂 It would be a multi billion dollar feat of engineering that barely anyone would use.
@@Consistency... But Alantic ave the subway station is over the Lirr stop?
Let the 8 trains run back on the south Bronx between Gun hill road and Clearmount Avenue Webster Ave to Frordam Road and 125 street connecting to the 4 5 6 metro North Q T trains.
The Q T trains is already booked up for East 125 street. Used the extra iRT lines like the 8 or the 10 trains could run on the south Bronx 3rd Avenue Elevated line between Gun hill road and Clearmount Avenue Webster Ave Bronx up to east side 125 street connecting to the 4 5 6 Q T trains and the Metro North railroad.
Finally! Thank goodness! I can't wait until the Second Avenue Subway Phase 2 is completed in 2029. It will definitely benefit Harlem and the Upper East Side of Manhattan. I support the project. That's progress. Thank you New York City.
This should've been done years ago.
Completed? Dont hold your breath. To give you an Idea, they started the Second ave subway project in 1967; It was supposed to be completed long ago..
I bet it would be 2031 when I'll be actually in that stop. The Phase 2 construction should've started back in 2019. If I'm there in 2029, I'll admit being wrong.
@@LatinSith Hate to say it but you are likely correct. I am sure this will get done. However as snags always occurs in construction (even with much of the tunnel between 125th and 96th partially built)so an opening a year or two past '29 is very possible.
Harlem should be the LAST place the Second Avenue Subway goes. It should be going DOWNTOWN.
Its ridiculous how long this going to take
On god!
Should of been done by 2025 but this is New York everything we build takes forever
since this is build from scratch, suggesting air condition station and automatic safety sliding door on the edge of the platform which remain closed untill the train stopped
@Stockings Panties exactly, MTA has wasted millions on digital ads on subway cars and stations
@@nyctransitrailfan Those ads make money. That's the whole point of them. They help subsidize your ride.
Sounds like Europe or Asia. Fat chance it'll happen in AMERICA :(
People should stop and think that getting all this stuff may make us feel good but You have to stop and think that the money is being provided to BUILD the additions, not maintain it. The riders will be responsible to pay for the additional subway cars, maintenance, repairs and personal through higher fares. A good analogy would be, some one gives you a brand new Rolls Royce for free and tells you, all you have to do is pay for the the maintenance. As the saying goes " be careful what you wish for, you just may get it"!
Spoken like a true non New Yorker.
@@darkpisces8125 Its always easier to spend other peoples money. By the way I have lived in the New York City city all my life and worked for NYCTA for 36 years.
The "Transit Wish List" is nothing more than a rehash of parts of the proposed "2nd Subway System" from 1929. You can find a lot of information about it on-line. History shows that it took 7 years to build the original 8th Avenue Line and it took only 4 years to build the original Interborough Rapid Transit subway from City Hall Loop to 96th Street. The 2nd and 3rd Avenue "Els" were torn down, in part, on the promise that a new 2nd Avenue subway would be built from Lower Manhattan to the Bronx. At least 50 years later, we're still waiting for it. Sad.
Still, phase 2 will take like about a decade
Phase 2 of the Second Avenue Subway will be done in 2029
Extend the 7 down to 14th Street,and have it connect with the L (extending the L to 10th Avenue, and the 7 could have stops at 28th, 23rd and 14th Sts, running along 10th Avenue)
I like your idea, BUT they didn't want to add a stop at 41st & 10 Ave during the 34th Street extension, you really think they'll add 3 stops PLUS one more on the L.
@@michaelmarino7391 they were supposed to make studies to bring back the 10th avenue station plan on the 7 line, but I guess they don't got time to study it
@@michaelmarino7391 True. They should have definitely added a 10th Avenue stop at 42nd. I think this whole thing was just more to promote Hudson Yards than anything else
i really wish the infrastructure bill devoted more to transit projects like these. the 3 trillion version was much needed
Doesn't matter, most of the money will go to porks and consultation. Bribery and corruption at their finest, American style.
That’s your congressmen who works on that
I think they should have the T train run into Brooklyn once phase 3 and 4 are done. Like have it run though it's own tunnel under the river.. Then connect it to the A and C at Hort St via court st(Transit Museum). That would greatly improve Train frequency on the local tracks running towards eculid.
The Museum is using the tracks there, they might have to build new tracks or relocate the museum
@@Dezlite In my opinion, I suggest a new line called the K line to go along with the T line with 2 new underwater tunnels to be expended to Brooklyn. Make a new stop called "Atlantic Avenue - Court Street" station, 2 blocks away from the Transit Museum to connect with 2 lines. For the K line, next stop / Hoyt-Schemerhorn Street with the 2, 3, A, C, G & H trains. For the T line, next stop / 7th Avenue on the express track with the F & G trains. That's how I'd like to see in the future. 🗽🚇🛤
Make the F train extension at 179 st Make the E train extend past Jamaica
I hope they don’t waste money on extra unnecessary infrastructure. Millions in art work and unnecessary crew facilities. It’s sad really we built more then 300 stations in the first couple decades now we can only do 3 stations in a decade. If they want to whole second ave line just dig up the road and do it cut and cover like the early subway. Let me be in charge I will get it done right
So no more mezzanines ? You are correct that is the better way
Considering how much this small extension is going to cost and how much money the MTA has just been handed, I feel like there are so many better things to spend this money on. Signals have problems so frequently, cutting service at the worst times on most lines, underground staircases become waterfalls when it rains too hard, we are still using train cars from the 1970s, we have no barriers that prevent people from falling/being pushed onto the tracks (unlike in many foreign subways), ADA compliant stations remain few and far between in the outer boroughs, and many transit deserts exist throughout the city as is. I'm sure that this extension would do a lot for Harlem, but I'm not confident that it would have nearly the magnitude of effect that revamping existing portions would.
All of these problems are being tackled. Why do you think the MTA is doing nothing about it? New R211 cars are on their way to replace old subway cars. They are also installing modern signalling on many subway lines, which will increase speeds. Its called CBTC, and the E, F, M, and R lines are being worked on and is almost complete. This all just takes time. Accessibility is being added at numerous stations as well.
We are not using trains from the 1970 and this is going to help transit deserts
Now, all the bums from 125th will be sleeping on the q line, smh.
BEFORE WE DO THAT LET'S MAKE THE 7 TRAIN CROSS TO THE BRONX FROM QUEENS.
AND A STATEN ISLAND TO BROOKLYN TRAIN
Staten Island needs a subway more than ever
Illogical,send the 7 train to New Jersey and the x train too,and both have a the same last stop in New Jersey,so people can transfer without leaving the station.
@@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 Or how about we have the NJ path trains free transferable to MTA and expand the Path lines to northern NJ.
@@vincentguzman7056 the path train should go under Central Park and have two stations in the park,110st station with a transfer to the 2 and 3 train,59st,49:42.
@Knife Hunter I now a 13 train in Minecraft as a shuttle,I’ll make the 14 train go from flushing Main Street to wherever is good.
They should expand into the Bronx and can easily build over metro north tracks to Fordham
Wow. After 70 years the subway is seeing some extensions!
First it was 2024... then 2027 (Understandable that the pandemic slowed a lot of production down)... NOW It's 2029??? WTF MTA??? It was originally supposed to be completed in the 1970's! I likely won't even be living in NYC in 2029. 🤦🏿♂️
Yep. In fact the old TA placed an order for, I believe, 100 subway cars that were to be used on the 2nd Ave. Subway. Only 10 were delivered before the contract was halted and only 1 remains in service as a Museum Car.
Heck, those darn Q25 buses can't even just stop & pickup the passenger like they were supposed to! Let alone building more subway!
Run more of em as in artics stop wasting long buses in manhattan routes along the subway
Phase 3 should be going across 125th to at least Broadway, ideally to riverside park. We have more than enough down town already, we don;'t need more stops within a block of existing stops. We need a cross town above central park, and 125th is the perfect place to link tons of subways with 4 transfers and between 5 and 6 new stations between the existing lines.
A shuttle line there would be perfect for sure, especially to with already existing traffic for the buses on that route heading to queens.
@@RagingSoftee trains would be better for not interferering with surface traffic.
That’s phase 7
How about you walk?
@@Toast0808 How about you think about what public transit is for?
Wasting money 🤑🤑
can we mock how Greg Mocker looks like a bum on the streets & not a reporter
😂😂😂
They used to always say they can't ever build barriers along the train tracks so passengers won't accidentally fall onto the tracks becsuse its too expensive to build. They say it cost about 1 billion dollars. But now they are spending billion dollars to dig a tunnel just to make 3 more stops. So now they can't have any excuse, they have the funding, but chose to do something else. As if people don't die many times a year from falling and being ran over by a train. Stupid
It’s a little more complicated than that because many lines are inter-operated and there are multiple types of trains that each line has with different door alignments, so adding platform screen doors would require an absolute standard, and ordering all-new trains to fit that door standard. I agree with you though… several billions to build tiny sections of tunnel? That’s absurd, and barriers are very important for safety. I believe there was a pilot plan to add platform screen doors to the L line pre-pandemic, but they got either shelved or canceled.
@@Tony_515 yea I agree with you . The MTA use to be different companies and each like and station , tunnels etc are vastly different. So on paper it doable but logistical it would be a nightmare to do and is it really worth it at the end when other stuff needs major attention.
Screw this plan.!!! HOW ABOUT USING THAT MONEY TO IMPROVE THE ENTIRE SYSTEM?!?!?!!
What would BX, Queens, BK look like? That would need to be dug under the LI Sound or do over a bridge. That will be in 2060
Wishful thinking = a north-south line across the Veranzano Bridge, parallel to the East River, to the Triboro Bridge and across into the Bronx, making a turn to the west along/parallel to the Cross Bronx Expressway, and across the George Washington Bridge. Widely spaced express stops, at east-west junctions/transfer points on Long Island and north-south junctions/transfer points in the Bronx.
This is such a joke. They should never have demolished the elevated lines in the first place.
The old elevated lines supported the wooden trains. The weight of the steel trains would've been too much. Plus, some New Yorkers didn't like the sight or sounds of the elevated trains in their neighborhoods.
@@LatinSith And the proposed 2nd Avenue Subway was going to replace the elevated lines. Of course, that never happened. As for the weight of trains on the elevated lines, remember that Chicago has "The Loop"; elevated and running today's equipment.
We need a Manhattan Project level effort to manage costs on our subway construction in this country. Seoul is building 120 miles mostly tunneled with 30 stations of a hybrid subway-high speed rail network for $11 billion USD. Set to cut travel times by 2/3.
2 Ave subway should go straight into the Bronx and have a transfer station at 149 GC with a stop at 3ave 138 with the 6
Man I can’t wait until 2040 and $13 billion later when the thing finally opens. From people who once needed it and moved away from the filth and refuse, too little too late
They should continue the 125th Street leg all the way to Broadway thus linking all the MTA tunnels there. (I'm not from NYC but visited enough times to get familiar with it.)
I think they should too, but after Phase 2, there's 3 and 4. No idea when the line across 125 would be done
There's a fault line that prohibits digging near Broadway and 125th st. It's the reason the 1 train comes aboveground for 1 stop before dipping back underground. They couldn't connect a tunnel the entire way along 125th but they could make it pretty far.
@@mylespalmer8989 I thought the reason 125th Street was above ground was so that they could keep the tracks level as its located in a valley
@@MrBluebirds22 well that's a good thought for sure. But standing on top of the platform and looking in both directions would disprove that. Also all Manhattan trains were reconfigured to be underground lines a while back. Which is why even though the ABCD lines have a similar issue (crossing the valley) they remain underground the entire way.
@@mylespalmer8989 @Myles Palmer How would it 'disprove' it exactly?
Also how comes the 8th Avenue line aren't affected by this 'fault line' then?
The Astoria N W route should be extended to LaGuardia / i mean it appears to be only 2 miles..............
That plan could actually be back, there is now options to connect LGA with a rail line
@@nyctransitrailfan and thank god too because Cuomo’s LaGuardia AirTrain was a joke
@@nyctransitrailfan Actually what is being seriously looked at is an extension of the N/W to LGA after the Cuomo LGA AirTran was cancelled right after his resignation. In this new plan, the N/W would have a new spur line travel "nonstop" along the Grand Central Parkway Highway between Astoria Blvd/RFK Triboro Bridge Station and the terminals at the Airport.
When will MTA extend the M to Queens Boulevard ? The most needed infrastructure
From middle village?
Illogical because then the m train is a loop,= mta circle ⭕️ line
We need to take #7 train to NJ from queens . please .
MTA needs a line on 11th Avenue
7 line extension, it's the only line that as of now runs on 11th avenue and 34 street
@@nyctransitrailfan a single station. Go and look up German S-bahn systems it can work well for LIRR NJT ect
The x train
This is just my opinion this whole thing has already been over 6 billion I believe and imo they can make the stations nice and modern asl but they shouldn't do the whole grand station type of thing like they did with 63 72 86 and 96 but just a regular sized station
Just my opinion but I absolutely love the 2nd ave subway tho favorite easily
Better than nothing, but the original plan called for 4 tracks (6 tracks in certain sections) and not to long ago a three track 72nd Street station. But instead we got the 6th Avenue line. Just imagine all the money that could have been saved with 34th Street to about 8th Street, not adding the cost of tunneling under both the Broadway BMT/IRT and the EL. Amazing what corruption does to a potentially good system. We did not need 6th Avenue. We already had PATH, which should have been extended to 57th Street. The Broadway BMT with it more useful transfers. So yeah! West 4th Street. But we had Christopher Street and that extended 8th Avenue L transfer.
So all this talk about extending this practically in a circle is basically, at least we getting some. But a Bronx connection to at least 149th Street and 3rd Avenue would have been much better, because of the #2 westside line.
He said that's another billion dollars LOL
Yeah to send it down to Wall Street
Phase 2 should extend west on 125th at least to the A/D line, with a connection to the 2/3 line as well. A Bronx to Queens direct line is needed. Maybe extend the G line so there would be a Bronx/ Queens/ Brooklyn line without going through Manhattan. Lets alleviate unnecessary Manhattan overcrowding and serve the public as well.
Queens Subway Lines need more help too, Flushing Line/Archer Ave Line/Astoria Line/Queens Blvd/ too Eastern Queens. A subway line that connects the Rockaways from Queens Blvd
I read Manhattan and long island will be under water in 100 years
Is long island apart of NYC?
@@jamal2982 No. Long Island is 2 counties east of the borough of Queens.Nassau county is first, and Suffolk is second with the lower peninsula of Montauk being the most eastern terminal at Montauk Point.
@@jamal2982 Long Island starts with Brooklyn and Queens,which are part of NYC
They are building a sea wall around Long Island
Just a few hundred million over budget no big deal
Can’t wait till they finish this in 2075
I don’t think Staten Islanders want a connection with Brooklyn. That’s why many residents moved from Brooklyn to SI.
Isn't Staten Island basically an extension of Bay Ridge and Bensonhurst?
@@henrymanzano9168 uh Staten Island is it's own island
@@henrymanzano9168 Majority of SI residents are probably from BR, Bensonhurst, Mill Basin. But from those I know on SI many of them are NOT taking the subway to Brooklyn.
@@mrmrso228 im from SI, alot of us like to go shopping in brooklyn and go to redhook
This is why local government should not get involved in region wide planning
There needs to be a train connection between the Bronx and Queens. People have to go through Manhattan on the train in order to do that makes trips so much longer than it should be.
Look up the Triboro RX proposal, it has exactly what you're looking for
That’s why in my Minecraft mta subway I did the 10 train,now I’m going to make the 13 train to exchange place with the path and x and L trains.
@@busfannerchris isn’t that kinda screwed now since Metro North’s extension to Penn Station takes a huge chunk of that alignment?
What popped in my head is if they're exploring a way to get from Brooklyn to Staten Island. I suggest doing is turning the three lane lower level of the Verrazano to a two Lane. Then using the middle third lane as a track for trains to go across.
This proposal was studied back in the 1950's or early '60's as a possible R Line extension, into Staten Island from 95Th St in Brooklyn, but was rejected by Robert Moses. He wanted his bridge to be "untrain friendly", as much as possible. And honestly, I don't think the Verrazano Bridge would be able to withstand all of the weight and the vibrations of those subway trains crossing the bridge from Staten Island to Brooklyn and vice versa. (The Verrazano Bridge is too long to make train friendly probably.) Each subway car is equipped with two ten ton air conditioner systems, transformers, fluorescent light ballasts and other electrical equipment that makes each car weigh in at least 60 - 70 tons per car. (The heaviest are the R68 and R68A type cars weighing in at 90 Tons.) And considering the fact that most subway trains have a consist of typically eight cars per train, all of this weight could cause the Verrazano Bridge to sway probably severely and compromise it's structural integrity. From what I understand, there was a tunnel constructed in the 1910's between Staten Island and Brooklyn, that would have connected the Staten Island Rapid Transit (now the Staten Island Railway) to the 59Th Street Station of the N & R Line at Forth Ave. Then under Governor Smith, his administration defunded this project and he ordered cement to be poured over both of the portals of this tunnel, on both the Staten Island side and the Brooklyn side. (No tracks were ever installed in this tunnel) It was rumored that he did this because Gov Smith owned stocks of share in the Pennsylvania Railroad and the Staten Island Railroad was owned by the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad originally. (The PRR was the B&O's "arch rival") One can still find evidence of the tunnel being "covered up", on both the Brooklyn and the Staten Island sides: on the Brooklyn side, at the 59Th Street N & R station, if you look at the tunnel walls of the local trackways on both sides, towards the middle of the station platform, there's indentations that are slightly angled and covered up. (These indentations are wide enough for a train) Then on the Staten Island side, if you ever take a ride on what locals here call the "Toonerville Trolley", going to Tottenville, while your on the train departing St George, looking to your right before the train enters the 500' 1880's built rock wall tunnel that goes underneath the old Coast Guard Station. You'll see a "newer" concrete slab next to the existing tunnel portal. This is where the tunnel portal that would have connected Staten Island to Brooklyn was cemented over, sometime in the late 1910's or early 1920's. I think if train service was to ever be connected between Staten Island and Brooklyn, this is probably what would be deployed to make that happen, rather than having subways cross the Verrazano Bridge. (There is a proposal to do this in the not too distant future.) They would have to remove the concrete that was poured over the tunnel portals about a century ago, would probably need to drain the tunnel as I imagine it would have more than likely been flooded by now and make the necessary repairs as needed, add the tracks and trains will roll through. However, before the MTA spends any money on improving transit on Staten Island, I think their priority is completing the Second Ave Subway before anything is ever done on Staten Island. As of right now, the Staten Island Railway is connected to the National Freight Rail Network and not to the rest of the N.Y.C.T.A. Subway lines.
@@joshbenton4080 Yes. Even if they build a Subway line to Staten Island they should consider removing the cement walls in the formerly proposed Staten Island Subway Tunnel, renovate the tunnels to accommodate modern trains, and extend the existing tunnel construction to Staten Island to connect with the Staten Island Railway. Once all 4 phases of the Second Avenue Subway are completed sometime in the 2040’s they should build the tunnel to expand NYC Subway service to Staten Island for the first time. The MTA should also consider building the AirTrain LGA once the new LaGuardia Airport is completed, expand the new Penn Station once East Side Access is completed in 2023, and finish the Gateway Tunnel in New Jersey. These projects will definitely benefit New York City’s economy for the 21st century and provide a prosperous future for New York City for many years to come.
Remember the movie guy who said get off my train?
Who cares about a 2nd avenue subway...wake me up when they've started construction on a Staten Island to the rest of the City subway!
There were plans for that and I believe that there is unused trackway on one of the old BMT Lines. Plan was to tunnel under the Narrows to connect the Staten Island Rapid Transit with the NYC Subway. Plan was apparently scotched when the bridge was built.
@@cats0182 thank Robert Moses
All I can say is that I hope I'm alive when this all done
It’s great get it done! Just make sure the city get all the drug addicts and criminals in 125th out and having much more police presence 24/7. 125th is zombie land
Worse than in the 1970s!
Thank you MTA! 👏
I can hardly wait to this to come true.
Trust me, you can wait. It won’t happen .
@@HelloooThere Only our Gracious Great God and loving Lord knows for sure.
@@captainkeyboard1007 right and he knows it won’t happen, kapisch
@@HelloooThere I cannot speak for Gracious Great God, but He knows what will happen and what will not happen, better than us. We know not what will happen. Our Gracious Great God is all-knowing and that is the truth. If I were you, I would not worry about a thing. By the way, Kapish is cute.
@@captainkeyboard1007 ok
Omg, this is the worst thing to happen to the 96st Q line. Its ACTUALLY a half ass decent ride between 34th and 96th... Now that this is going into the warzone we know as Harlem, its absolutely going to be like the rest of the subway lines, which is filled with our prestigious uptown folk. The only good thing is that this project will probably not finish for another 8 years.
Lmfao. What the fuck is a 96 st Q line? It's called Second Avenue Subway line
@@sdcheung its actually called the Q line, The 2nd avenue run is the extension. Whats not funny is that youre calling it the Second avenue subway line while calling out someone else for what you think is incorrect. The last stop on the Q line is 96th st. Go back to queens.
How about 103rd, 110th 116th and 125th??????
They listed 103rd, 116th and a connection at 125th and Lexington.
Not sure if current buildings impact their plans or not.
@@numbaoneg101 106 street station not 103
@@nyctransitrailfan 106th St on 2nd Ave line is a good train station stop. Been around that area long street and good for two way traffic. Nice street location for it.
The second avenue subway should have platform screen doors. Come on!
Bring back the 9 train and have it go to New Lots during special hours replacing 2, 4 and 5
Why are you obsessed with the number 9 line
It was a complete failure
You just want to see the 9 train again for your own satisfaction. Other than that, you don't have a definite reason.
@@Dezlite I said that it was a total failure and should not come back in its original form,it will come back with the 8 train local and the 9 train go express on the proposed Utica avenue line.
@@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 sorry i was talking to FennerGuy Reloaded, not you
"Service between Staten Island & Brooklyn" haha what a joke. What's that going to cost at this rate? $10 billion to build such a tunnel?
I thought this was originally going to extend to the bronx ...i guess the gentrification aint work as they were hoping for
That was the original plan since 1969, but it was not made effective.
@@captainkeyboard1007 that sucks!! I wish the MTA made a train that went parallel to the cross bronx and connected the 1,2,4,5,6b,d
How about the 6 train extended to Co Op City
Will I be able to see the complete T line before I move on?
That will be once phase 3 of the second avenue subway is complete, which means many years away from now, probably by the 2038-2041
Would anybody know what happened to the Queens bus redesign ???
There was gonna be a bus route from Queens to Manhasset...........
Got delayed by COVID Dino. They are hoping to start the Queens Bus resign sometime in 2023. The Bronx Bus Redesign is next sometime in the Summer or early Fall of '22.
@@americangiant1003 ....thanks..................... the Queens bus redesign is a dream come true
Considering all the "infrastructure money" that Texas is donating to NYC in the BILLIONS [along with other Not-New York places] I have a bit of a vested interest in extending the Q line up 2nd Avenue. So for MY part, could you please TRY to get this done close to on time and reasonably near budget?? Here in Dallas we built a 22 mile light rail line from the Northwest Suburbs through downtown and on to Southeast Dallas. Cost? $1.8 Billion. On time. On budget. It can be done!! Anyways........ glad [somewhat] to be of help. [ebil grin]
either u can have every station bad and a few nice ones. or you can have every station decent looking, maybe do that.
I thought back in 1976 that that the 2nd Ave Subway was going to stop in the Bowery and Canal Street. The time Confucius plaza was being built in Chinatown. I thought the 2 nd Ave could of went South and the next stop would be Chatham Square and finally at City Hall!
The original designs for a 2nd Ave. Subway ran from Lower Manhattan to somewhere in Upper Manhattan, if not to the Bronx. I believe those design plans are still in play; only question is when does play begin.
That's only for gentrification. Hello... MTA not fooling these people!
Little did they know how expensive it would be
This is actually pretty cool
Next on the list should be to build the Triboro RX line connecting Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx.
Someone petition for SIR to be extended to Either Coney Island or Whitehall Street station.
Extend it across the Narrows to connect to 59 St Brooklyn.
@@Conellossus I’m thinking either in the middle, top or side by side of Staten Island 278 Bridge E.
@@ddrdanganvloger2187 You must be from out of town or never been to NYC. Locals call it the Verrazano Bridge (named after the Italian Explorer in the 1500/1600's). If you say "Staten Island 278 Bridge E" when in NYC, most people will look at you crazy.
@@americangiant1003 I know that it’s called The Verazzanos bridge. I just take my own taste on it. But my point still stands to extend the SIR to either Manhattan or Brooklyn; or even both.
@@ddrdanganvloger2187 Strongly disagree on extending the SIR right now here in 2021/2022. I do agree that back around 1955-'56 when the Verrazano was being built, a SIR tracks connecting to the now "R" line in Bay Ridge should have happened.
A better use of any monies now from the so called Biden "Build Back America" and even near future infrastructure projects would be to build a new 24/7 BUS Only lane along the Staten Island Expressway/Verrazano/BQE(278 to the Tunnel to/from Lower Manhattan).
Or even a rail extension along the Borough's North Shore along a currently abandoned freight rail tracks connecting it with say NJ Transit train in Elizabeth, NJ. Connecting SIR through New York Harbor would be in the Zillion dollar price tag.
It should connect to NJ for train 7
No
Nyc subway to jersey ? I don’t think so
@@ColdSid Why? Do you think it's redundant due to path's existence?
This is bullshit. There never gonna finish. And besides, they should focus on fixing the crappy system we already have, not wasting money on fancy stations.
I knew about the phase for like 2 years around the time phase came out
This line should be extended all the way up through the Bronx. This won’t do anything.
East Harlem Whaddup
I hope they stay on track with it
MTA failed to amend the drainage and sewer systems incase of flash floods as well with hurricanes in order to avoid damages.
So moronic they wasted 5 years since Phase 1 was complete to get the green light for this…if you assume an 8-year completion…they could have started in 2016-7 and finished by 2024-25.
Still…at least it’s getting built 😂.
They can't start phase 2 directly after phase 1 is complete. They have to allocate money and funds, and do more studies beforehand.
Yay now tax money can be set on fire
because of corruption the price for the next extention is way more then anywhere in the world
Line along Utica Ave is coming to light now. Yea it's time for me to leave Brooklyn. It's going to make neighborhoods like flatlands n mill basin overcrowded now. Sometimes its best to go where trains n buses don't go.
Cool, and all, but...
"Northeast Carter"
What next Q train to the Bronx plus with the B and D
No money for affordable affordable housing
About time but I would really love to see it go into the Bronx
It just doesn't seem right having the Q to go 2 borough's
The Q Train was so nice and clean until 96st
Once the subway goes to Harlem, the line goes downhill. Look at the derelict garbage that crowds the 4, 5, 6 trains, All coming down from Harlem and the Bronx.
That joke of yours is getting too old.
Total waste of money
Just grifting federal money for a corrupt bunch of politicians and contractors .
Pathetic..2029 !
This for 96th to 125th.. .WALK IT
“Delays be the worst “ maybe invest in school system instead of this pipe dream
Literally a mile of digging is going to take 8 years
2029 😒
In Europe or Asia that would be 2026 or 2027
It will stop in a month lol
So overdue
Rebuild the existing before building new…
In NYC Depends on which mob family get the contract
I like it. Go infrastructure!