Agustin Barrios Mangoré - Historical Recordings - 1933
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2020
- Agustin Barrios Mangoré - Historical Recordings , year 1933 .
Barrios film and documentary at : danielemagli.blogspot.com/202...
#barrios #mangore #historicalrecordings
La Catedral:
I. Preludio Saudade
II. Andante Religioso (0:00)
III. Allegro Solemne (1:55)
Vals Op. 8, No. 3 (4:35)
Un Sueño en la Floresta (8:12)
Muchas gracias por los titulos de las piezas!
A pesar de ser mi país Venezuela, tierra de grandes guitarristas por excelencia, debo reconocer con humildad que Nitsuga Mangoré o sea Agustín Pío Barrios es la máxima figura de la Guitarra Latinoamericana y quizás de la historia de la música guitarrística, que en el caso de Mangoré reviste la doble faceta de compositor y ejecutante donde prácticamente superó a todos los de su tiempo y aún hoy en el 2023, no hemos visto otro genio de ese calado. Su avanzado nivel de composición nos hace ver en el un hito único ya que abordó con una maestría cuasi inexplicable, diversos géneros que van desde lo clásico hasta lo mas autóctono de Paraguay y con unos niveles de complejidad sola para virtuosos(as). Prácticamente quedé hipnotizado por su obra desde el primer día que la escuche de manos de mi querido Maestro el Chileno Arturo González Quintana. Nitsuga Mangoré vive en toda Latinoamérica, en su aire, sus selvas, sus aguas, en sus nieves y en sus llanos y pampas
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What a musical giant. Clearly my favorite composer for classical guitar and as one can hear here, a mind blowing performer as well.
Qué valiosisimo documento!!! 👏👏👏
Documento importantissimo per comprendere meglio il mondo estetico di Barrios. Mi conforta sentire che i bravi interpreti degli ultimi decenni, a partire da John Williams a cui va il grande merito di averlo fatto conoscere su larga scala, fino si bravi chitarristi dei giorni nostri (anche sudamericani), stanno rendendo giustizia a Barrios con esecuzioni all’altezza di questo grande autore della chitarra. 👏👏
What a treat to hear Barrios on recordings advanced enough to really gauge his level of virtuosity and musicianship! His recording of Un sueño en la floresta is stunning with tremolo technique to match the best guitarists of today (no wonder he wrote such extended tremolo passages). His playing embraces that unique romanticism that was the touchstone of his compositions, with a sound and feeling uniquely his.
Barrios indeed is the most notable classical guitarist of the 20th century. Not only was he an unbelievable guitarist but also a brilliant composer. He composed more than 300 pieces of which 150 have been published.
I would put Sor, Tarrega, and Barrios in the Mount Rushmore of the Classical Guitar. It’s too bad Barrios never had the marketing machinery of Segovia, but he was the more accomplished musician, both as a player and undoubtedly as a composer since Segovia was completely missing in action in this area.
Barrio’s compositions are so complex and yet you can hear him playing The Cathedral in this audio at tremendous speed and with precision, and this was almost 100 years ago using steel strings in the trebles. 🤯 Just brilliant!!! He practiced an estimated 10 hours a day.
All three of the guitarist in my Mount Rushmore were complete musicians in the sense that they were accomplished as players and composers.
Un compositor excepcional y extraordinario, comparable a otros compositores de instrumentos con mas tradición. Y un virtuoso de la guitarra, en una época que la técnica no estaba tan desarrollada, en mi opinión es el músico mas grande que a dado la guitarra, junto con Tarrega.
Leo Brouwer también es un guitarrista imprescindible.
Mal. En aquella época la técnica de la guitarra ya estaba más que desarrollada y se la debemos a los maestros del clasicismo. Sor, Carulli, Guiliani, Aguado, Carcassi. Y otra cosa, Tarrega no fue ni la uña de Barrios, se hecho en el canon de la guitarra clásica no es de los más prominentes. Barrios sin duda es de los más virtuosos, Tarrega ni se le acerca. Junto a Barrios podrían ir Mertz, Regondi y Sor en cuanto a virtuosismo y composición. Tarrega esta muy debajo de ellos.
@@cuervoblanco4122 la técnica no estaba mas que desarrollada, solo hay que ver un concierto de Andrés Segovia y uno de John Williams y se nota mucho la diferencia, y otra cosa, Tarrega y Mangore son de épocas muy diferentes y quien desarrolló la técnica de la guitarra y la llevó a nivel de concierto fue Tarrega, es el verdadero padre de la guitarra clásica, otra cosa es que Agustín Barrios fue un genio y sus obras tienen una belleza sin igual en el repertorio guitarristico, pero ya Tarrega había dotado de una técnica depurada al instrumento, como lo demuestran sus alumnos y por supuesto antes también hubo otros genios de la guitarra, pero ninguno como Tarrega en la técnica
@@cuervoblanco4122y las guitarristas de hoy tienen más facilidad en el instrumento que todos aquellos compositores. La técnica ha mejorado mucho desde los 80s.
Tárrega's Preludes are among the finest things, though.@@cuervoblanco4122
O que dizer sobre Agustin Barrios? Grande compositor, grande instrumentista, grande professor e aprendemos pela beleza de suas músicas que também foi uma grande figura humana. Barrios será sempre o máximo!
una fortuna poter ascoltare questo grandissimo autore e interprete della chitarra
Excelente documento. Un incunable. Es importante saber cómo interpretaba el autor sus obras. Gracias 🙏
Very Great guitarist and composer
L'ultimo romantico. Nessuno oggi riesce a suonare i suoi pezzi così, il più grande compositore-chitarrista della storia.
Sono d'accordo. Peccato suonasse con corde in metallo.
È perché all'epoca le corde di budello erano costose e poco diffuse in Sudamerica, che stava molto indietro rispetto l'europa a quei tempi (e anche oggi).
Raga come si chiamano i pezzi che suona?
@@manueldemartinis695 1) secondo e terzo movimento della Catedral
2) Vals op 8 n 3
3) Un sueño en la floresta
@@vincenzoguarini9213 grazie mille
Majestuosa obra, el ritmo acelerado es para que entre la obra en el disco..limitaciones de la época.. superadas con olgura por éste genial guitarrista el gran Agustín Barrios 'Mangore'
The Greatest Guitar composer of the 20th century..I've never heard 'LA Cathedral' played so fast..wow!!
He had to play everything faster because there wasn't enough space on those old records
He was very excellent. I just don’t think the “Greatest”.
@@StopFearbro hes the best classical guitar composer of all time listen to hes las abejas ultima cancion and all of hes pieces...
Truat me i have enough knowledge of music he is the best composer of 20s 30s and 40s
@@StopFear Then who is the greatest guitar composer from the 20th century?
@@StopFearThe guitar is such a versatile instrument, so beautiful that it has produced so many virtuous guitarists that it is difficult to determine who is the best guitarist of the 20th century. Agustín Barrios is there, among the best, there is no doubt about that. but before him there was Giulio regondi, Mauro Giuliani, Luigui Legnani, Fernando sor etc.
My favorite guitar composer/performer.....
Grazie per la pubblicazione di tanta bellezza, finalmente priva degli scratch e mumble dei 78 giri di quegli anni ancora riproducibili. Una vera rarità
I love La Cathedral. I think he was far more complete musician than Segovia. His compositions are beautiful especially this and the beautiful little Villancico de Navidad.
"I think he was far more complete musician than Segovia"
I agree👍..
absolutamente un documento musical1 admirable!
Gran intérprete, gran guitarrista y compositor. Great guitarist and composer
Para mi tambien Agustin Barrios Mangore es el artista de mi alma!
Se esse mestre tivesse nascido na Europa, com certeza seria o maior de todos os tempos, parabéns mestre Agustín!
He is the best no need Europe didn't recognise him.
He is the best of all time. 🤷🏻♂️
me encanta la musica de esto gigante de la guitara
Barrios para além virtuose intérprete é seguramente o compositor das peças mais lindas e complexas para guitarra. Não há outro, nem sequer Tárrega, com a sua obra prima "Recuerdos de la Alambra", que tenha criado uma peça tão linda e difícil de executar como "La Cathedral".
Nice to hear this from the composer himself.
This is absolutely phenomenal. I love the soft and elegantly rhythmic sounds. If only more music like was popularized. So very soothing for the soul. 🤍
Grazie al Maestro Magli, abbiamo la fortuna di ascoltare una Leggenda
Gracias por este tesoro artistico e historico!
Barrios es la cara de mi pais . Pais con mucho talento pero poca promocion . Por el hecho de que somos diferentes . Hablamos otro idioma. Solo nosotros nos entendemos. Si Agustin hubiese nacido en Argentina , no hubiensen escuchado hablar de Tarrega . La dificultad que tubo Paraguay en su historia dio lugar a crear artistas como Mangore , Emiliao R Fernández y otros para calmar sus penas .
Larguísimo el Trémolo de "Un Sueño en la Flofesta". Y conste que no toda la obra es en Trémolo. Qué Grande Mangoré!!!
Many thanks for giving us this gem.
Muchas gracias Maestro Daniele!!
Wondrous ! xxxxxxx
Agradecido maestro
Genio! 🇵🇾
Why didn’t he receive the acclaim enjoyed by Segovia. Agustin could play and compose whereas Segovia could only play.
I so much agree like in science great men are subdued out of competitive jealousy. Segovia promised to work with Barrios but never followed up. When you look at Barrios prolific composing and virtuoso techniques imho it eclipses Segovia and relegates him to technician only. I imagine money and living in a poor country had something to do with Barrios lack of promotion.
segovia successfully sabotaged mangoré's career, yet here we are, praising barrios
@@babinm Segovia couldn't stand him. I suspect he felt threatened by him.
There was only room for one ego as bloated as Segovia's was.
@@rjlchristie Closet conquistador
Makes me shiver
What planet was this bloke from? Amazing!
Outstanding..!
Wonderful !
Maravilha!
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Is the recording tempo sped up at all? Curious because I know the finger work for most of these pieces, and its bloody unfathomable to me anyone on this earth would be able to be that quick!
Check out juanjo dominguez' version of this piece
Note that some pieces speed up during playback. I suspect that it was something to do with how they where transferred to, or later from, disc at some stage. On a circular disc moving at constant angular velocity, the needle moves along the track faster the further it is from the central axis.
Prolly has to do with recording on wax cylinders, they were short so he had to speed his playing up to fit the whole song. I read it somewhere but I have no sources other than that
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I read somewhere, that he might have used steel (rather than nylon/gut) strings. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
It was mentioned in a recent Guitar Player Magazine about Julian Lage, who is a big Barrios fan. Seems like the botton four strings were steel. I always wondered why ‚classical‘ guitarists don‘t use steel-strings for certain pieces. Seems to me like it would be especially suited for Bach because of the clarity and better intonation.
4:37
Lindo
I can hear Bach soul
La Catedral
Vals opus 8 number 3
Un Sueño en la Flofesta
Segovia can’t play like this at all…
Yes, Mangore had much more soul.
I finally heard him at 67 yo but Segovia when I was 13 yo. The only comparison I could think of might Villa Lobos.
@@christopherd6399 There is no reason to say that.
Well, there are anecdotes from that time that suggest Segovia envied Barrios’ playing ability and the fact that he was also a composer. Alirio Diaz did say Segovia was jealous of him and forbade his students from playing his music.
I love La Catedral but that is too fast. I know he wrote it but it is a blur. You cannot make out the beauty
Así es como se toca La Catedral!
Me parece que agustin fue el más grande guitarrista de todos los tiempos a la altura de Sor y Tarrega
You're not wrong, he's "by far" the greatest guitar composer of all time.
NOOOOOO, todo bien hasta que pusiste a Tarrega ahí. Tarrega no fue ni la uña de Sor o Barrios. Sor era un moustro para componer, escribía grandes sonatas y conciertos, mientras que Tarrega se limita a obras pequeñas de un par de minutos. En una sola fantasía de Sor hay más minutos que en todo el repertorio de Tarrega. Si hablamos de grandes guitarristas, podemos nombrar a Mertz, Barrios y Sor, Tarrega esta muy por debajo.
@@cuervoblanco4122 But, as much as I know, Barrios did not composer Sonatas, or Concertos, neither other sorts of big works. We should measure the value of a composer by the size of his works. Tárrega's Preludes are exquisite. I do not understand the reason for trying to establish who was 'the greatest'... Can't they just simply coexist as different visions of that big, unique and unknowable thing (at least as a whole) that Music is?
... Bachlike.
.... and the allegro portion is brilliantly legendary.
Agree in the sense not of church music but more romantic. In the sense that a brilliant composer wouldn’t be able to duplicate the style even if they were able to decipher whatever code were involved. Every note has an irreplaceable place. IMHO
Not at all, unless you think some of the arpeggio passages of La Catedral are similar to some Bach violin sonata and partita passages.
Chopin-like is better description in general.
What is the name of the piece after allegro solemne?
ii Andante religioso
Vals op. 8 no. 3
3:17 sounds like the gerudo valley theme from zelda
4?
0:00 Una limosna por el amor de Dios
4:35 ?
8:12 Un sueño en la floresta
He was a better composer than a player, granted its a poor quality recording. As composer he was a giant.
Really? I thought his tremolo was the best like the sound of a violin. I wonder if his guitar was too flight.
As far as I know all the recorded composers playing their celebrated piece, none never sound as grand as pure performers, they usually sound more free and improvised.
For Example Ravel a undisputed giant of post romantic sounds average, the same for Debussy. Rachmaninov is the only exception whose piano roll recording is absolutely astounding (not the notes but his conception of time and rubatto which cannot be faked even with rolls). but he was a better performer than composer (despite his piano concerti loving crowd). And it goes on, Atahualpa Youpangi the famous Argentinian composer/ guitarist had a good technique but not exceptional. There is a reason that pure performers cannot compose a decent page of music, it's a completely different approach to music. Composers are infused with music, harmonies and inspiration, but performers are only obsessed with notes, in a way they're not musicians, but executionists and they know it.
@@ericastier1646 I learn more from listening to the composers playing (Granados is amazing on piano roll and is on youtube).
after hearing this music all other music seems like a noice really after you listen to his music you realise how much noise and noisy world we live in
the lord of the string the greatest of all time Augustine's Barrios
if there is a evidence about god of another world for sure the music of the lord Augustine's is one of this evidence its the music of heaven and from heaven.