Who’s the better partner for you? (Ball Machine comparison: Slinger vs Spinfire Pro 2)
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- I'm comparing the slinger and spin fire pro 2 ball machine so you know what to look for in a ball machine. By the end of this video you're going to know exactly the things to look for when buying a ball machine.
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This video started making me ill. My Slinger bag order is set to arrive tomorrow and I happened upon this video today. As you ticked off each category to the Spinfire Pro 2, my heart sank. I apparently did not do my research to see what was currently out there. I've had my eye on a Slinger for a couple of years now and got pretty set on it. I was pretty crushed until the cost category came up. WHOA!! Okay... getting excited again about my Slinger bag arriving tomorrow! lol
checked all the boxes !!! Great communication, Thanks for keeping it moving for the serious tennis community.
Im from Germany and have the Slingerbag. Im totally happy!!!
Excellent to see a "this vs. that" review.
I have a Lobster Elite Liberty. Currently $1099; dual function remote not included, $185. I paid $949 for the machine alone not 3 years ago. The Slinger was so new I didn't even know about it.
Pros:
1. Has topspin, backspin, sweep function, speed up to 70 mph(?), angle of ejection 0-50 degrees.
2. The machine seems very sturdy--it doesn't move when I run the sweep motor.
3. Big wheels make it easy to move over uneven ground.
4. The machine didn't suffer the loss of power that some Tennis Tutor models do.
5. The sweep function is random and a set width, good if you like surprises that force you to move your feet, but see below #6.
Cons:
1. Webpage says my model weighs 35 lb--mine weighs 38# with a lithium battery I bought to replace the sealed lead acid battery that died while plugged in to their charger that website claimed keeps it alive--new battery weighs 3.5# less. The original machine then tipped the scale at over 41#.
2. Expensive remote control. I wired in a triple function $15 remote kit from Amazon.
3, Other tennis players hand me bolts that look like they might have fallen off my Lobster--no idea where they go, even after I pulled off the shell and looked around.
4. The hopper had flat spots where up to six balls would hang out--I made inserts to make the balls roll into the feed tray.
5. The feed motor ran so fast, I had to block off two of the feed positions.
6. The sweep function works at one angle and doesn't sync with ball delivery, not good if you want a consistent feed or want to practice volleys with the machine at the baseline.
Rather than the Lobster, yes on the Slinger.
If I the $1,700 Hydrogen Proton (Google that) at about 20# was a choice, I might have pulled the trigger on that.
This is EXACTLY the video I've been looking for. I've been interested in buying a ball machine and came down to these two as finalists. Thank you for making it!
Glad I could help!
Thanks for the comparisons Kevin!
Based on your 2 videos on the Spinfire i ended up buying a spinfire pro2. I've owned at least 7 different ballmachines in my 37 year of teaching tennis. The Spinfire Pro2 is definitely the best. As a teaching pro it is like having a hired ball feeder on court. I totally agree the remote is one of the key factors that makes this machine so good. You can make adjustments on the fly. I've only owned machines with remotes. When it comes to ease of use the pro2 wins hands down. The phone remote on my spinshot player is great but cumbersome when it comes to making quick adjustments.
Thanks for the recommendation 😀
I'd suggest comparing to a Silent Partner Star, about 1100 with speed, frequency, adjustable spin, height, and oscillation, and a two button remote.
Hi Kevin, great review - I am using the slinger, and it does its job. However, it is nice to know that the Spinfire also gives out random balls. Very realistic setting at the 3.0 - 3.5 level! maybe not at 4.0, but below, definitely. And if you can afford the spinfire, you should be able to afford a car to transport the extra case of balls.
I just upgraded from the Slinger to the Spinfire. The big difference I noticed was the Slinger fed the balls slower than the Spinfire. I will say, the Slinger back is great for beginner players cause it is a slower feed machine. Once my daughter progressively got better, we moved to the Spinfire as it gave her a more lifelike match play practice. Like you said, both machines are great.
Great review thank you.
I need to start saving to buy a Slinger by the end of 2024👍
The price point is why the features aren’t matching up. The spin fire better beat the slinger 😅
Good review bro
well done video
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Proton ← light, compact, great design and powerful!
just pulled the trigger on proton today, we shall see lol
@@felipequintana2582 I hope it works well for you!
Great comparison. Have you had the chance to test the Hydrogen ball machine? Imho, it wins on portability, customization, and control. I’m in SoCal if you’d like to borrow mine for testing.
Dude, how can you compare two machines which are at such different price points. The spitfire is more than 3x the cost of the Slinger
$2400 vs $700. That's a huge difference. Kinda wish comparison videos would compare things in the same category, at least.
I found a second hand Tutor Pro Lite Plus for 150. Paying half with my Co owner
Thank you for this video! One question: why do these machines require pressurelesss balls? Cant you use regular balls? Is it misleading to train hitting a "dead" ball compared to a real game real pressure ball? I never hit with machine so I dont know, but I am considering buying one.
Hi Kevin, how’s the Spinfire been so far? Any issues with it? Cheers
Hey guys. Do you recommend getting Nisplay machine?
Kevin how'd you feel about the durability of the machines, itd be nice to know how long they'll last before breakages, if they handle damp balls and will they survive if it gets rained on?
Thanks and great video
If you're still looking, I've had the previous version of the spinfire for 3+ years and it's held up fine with pretty regular use. I don't keep it going in the rain though, except to finish the current tub of balls. On a damp court I can maybe put the balls through a second time, but once they're carrying a bit of water they tend to jam between the spin wheels, as it can't get enough traction (understandably).
With the Slinger, don't you pretty much have to bring a hopper to collect the balls anyway? You can store the balls in the Slinger, but once you've hit them, what are you using to bring them back to the Slinger? I know they have a tube device, but that carries, what, like 10? Unless you're content to keep going back and forth to empty the tube to fill 100-150 balls, you kinda need a hopper no matter which machine you have, no?
Thanks! That's a really good point!
Pockets and the racket easily holds 25 balls. Takes 3 minutes to collect 100 ball. Perfect little break. Plus u can see on the side by side comparison that the Slinger produces alot more spin, which is essential for advanced players.
@@peoplespeace Clumsy solution for someone investing that much in a machine, ostensibly because it is an efficient tool. I need to learn the trick of getting 17 balls on my racquet face.... And i thought the Slinger produces *far* less velocity than other machines and its amount of spin was considered "a lot" only relative to the fire speed. Not more than other machines. Which comparison are you looking at? This one? How many settings were demonstrated? Slinger only has one spin rate, no? In this demo he said maybe "a little more spin," which isn't the same as "a lot." Coupled with the much lower velocity, i don't see an advantage. But, whatever. I have no dog in this fight. I considered the Slinger, but bought a Lobster.
@@CentaurusRelax314 My aim is to have professional level shots, and I'm well on my way. For this as lot of spin is essential. And no, the Slinger doesn't just one spin setting. When u reduce speed it also reduces spin. The total tennis domination guy, whom i consider the best online coach, I obviously receiving the other machine in exchange for the review.
I saw no "Thanks" link on the UA-cam menu. Much faster way to reward you for your content than Venmo/Paypal.
As a proud owner of a Spinfire pro 2, my preference why for this machine is that it simply has no equal in terms of power, precision and programming. Also the ball speed with which this machine fires is phenomenal, not to mention the spin and slice capabilities, top machine, ps; only downside = the price!
A comparison between the Spinfire and the Spinshot (Plus 2 or Player) would be better. They are more similar in features and in price.
I had to spin shot player. Used it a few times but the Wi-Fi wouldn't reach across. The court in the app was horrendous. The only way to operate it was through the app. No manual controls. Ended up selling it for $500 less than I paid for it.
@@notascorsese The Spinshot Player has manual controls. With an Android phone, Bluetooth seems more reliable, but I usually use an old iPad and it works very well. The app itself could be much better though.
The spin shot player has a play button and a stop button, then 12 buttons for preset drills. So you cannot manually adjust bead oscillation, top spin, backspin, etc. The problem is the app has 2.4 out of 5 stars on Android. Maybe it works better on and old iPad. An iPad would also give you a much larger interface which you would need..... Because the controls on the app are way too small to use on a phone. You're trying to scroll through 20 tiny numbers for the machine is shooting tennis balls over the fence, very frustrating.
@@notascorsese I think 2.4 is a bit generous. The app only duplicates the capabilities of the electronics. It can store 12 drills, but a software app can store hundreds or thousands. Also there should be a way to calibrate what values 1-20 actually mean so you do not have to adjust because the weather or the court is different. I asked the company to give me a description of how I can communicate with the machine so I can develop my own app but they refused. I still love the hardware though. It is compact but sturdy.
@@notascorsese I think of selling my spinshot 2 , it's hard to manipulate via app and not reliable maybe..now there is a new titan ball machine but I amnot sure about it..on spinfire 2 pro,yes there is no customisable drills but I think that the remote contro it's everything!! You can easily manage the machine while you are playing.
Why would you compare a $2,400 machine with a $700 machine? Which is better a BMW M8 or a Toyota Corolla? Depends on your budget, but there’s not a valid comparison. Personally, I find the Slinger fine for working on technique but rather limited when looking for a workout. It would be nice to have more spin options, but having 1 less wheel is what keeps the price low.
The Spinfire machine is a knock-off of the original LOBSTER ball machine that has been around for 20 plus years. Lobster was bought out by the Har-Tru company just last year. I'm actually surprised Lobster/Har-Tru allowed them to have the EXACT same shape, and look... but maybe Spinfire is owned by Har-Tru. It's an amazing machine with all the bells and whistles and is MUCH cheaper in price than the SpinFire. It's too bad Lobster didn't send you one for testing. ( Lobster now also offers a great machine for pickleball. BTW, the Lobster tennis ball machine is super powerful, super heavy topspin, and speed, and the oscillation is great on it as well. Great view, love your channel. I bought the racket you have last year after you told me what model t was. Love it. 🙂
Hit the wall if no money.
The slingerbag never appealed to me. It's design looks great but lacks features.
Hello, Unfortunately, I have mild ulnar tfcc on my wrist, would you please help me recommend 2-3 racquets that are most wrist friendly? My tennis level is 2.5-3.0
Looking forward to your reply, thank you very much
give it a year and do some OT. it'll help; if still some issues, a hand specialist will have a brace that can help even for sports.
@@callaway15 thank you very much
oh i hope i win
8:35, FOREEEEEE 🤣
I don’t understand giving the slinger the portability nod b/c you don’t need to carry a hopper. You need a hopper anyway to collect the balls afterward don’t you?
Kind of hard to justify the difference in cost for rec level players which I feel this is the channels target audience. Awesome features of the Spinfire, but at more than double the cost I'd buy the slinger for sure.
I've owned 2 ball machines for over 16 years . The BEST investment I've made!! Well worth the money. I would say try to stay under $800. I've only owned the SP Tennis machine, but it has worked great (with a some longevity caveats). But I would recommend it still. You can buy 2 SP vs spitfire. Unless you're a pro, I think it works great.
I'm considering the following 3 options: Proton, Titan One/Ace, Spinfire Pro 2. Which one would you buy in 2024? :) Thanks!
Nobody know you need to search by yourself.. I think buy titan or spinfire..titan has drills but on the other hand I like the remote contro of spinfire ..
@@ketokonazol Titan is really interesting, but lack of reviews and not proven reliability. Spinfire seems also good, but a bit outdated technology (no app / drills) and design IMHO not so attractive.
@@vakula485 I have spinshot plus 2.i thinking to sell because even though has app drills in reality I amnot sure if it's useful..it's boring to have app and iPhone ,spinfire I see that all praise the remote control,and also with spinfire has 12 programmed drills that I suppose it's enough and ok. Titan seems ok but if they would have remote control I would buy. If you playing often and menu hours then ok to spend time to adjust app phone but I think that a remote control as spinfire is must
@@vakula485I have spinshot and I sold because the app it's boring ,in reality it's different maybe.i thinking buy titan or spinfire, titan its new but again there is remote control. In reality it's easier to use remote control maybe than iPhone and change settings.. if you have purpose to play often and customise drills ok but ,even spinfire has 12 drills programmed that possible it's enough for average players
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The problem with the slinger is that the balls get stuck around the corner and you have to pause constantly and go to the machine to shake it around to lossen up the balls
I bought a slinger for $450, best deal ever for a ball machine
You really think a $2k tennis ball machine should be compared to a $500 one? It’s not even a competition
touch screen will be a reliability problem
Bad comparison. These 2 machines aren't even in the same class. Only objection to Spinfire is price.
Hi bro, I am looking for a ball machine that shoot balls with random frequency. Can you help me? I can’t find any ball machine that deliver balls with random intervals
Slinger Bag - U$ 800,00 ;
Spinfire Pro 2 - U$ 2.100,00
This comparison is not fair !
11:36 $499.00 now 😢
Not a fair review.. a $700 machine vs $2200... if I could afford the spinfire or lobster.. there is no reason to buy the Slinger!
Save the money guys and buy a playmate machine. They are industrial grade and last forever
Playmate looks like a trash bin 😂😂😂......by the way, how much is it???
Excellent machine, agreed. Huge ball capacity, preset drills, good speed and spin.
It's also very expensive, not portable at all, and the remote is basically an on/off button.
@@manujohn99 over 7K. lol
@@callaway15 $7k for a trash can look alike........the things we do for tennis🥴😁
@manujohn99 $2395 and it comes with a portable battery as well. My machine is over 3 years and it's still going great. These plastic machines like the spinfire or lobster don't last 🤔
It looks like he is paid by Spinfire Pro machine
you compare a 1000$ to a 2700$ machine.... nothing in between?
Spinshot Player 2 better than Spinfire and being slightly cheaper 👍
This is not a good comparison. A better comparison with the slinger would be a spin shot.
These machines have about 50$ worth of parts in them. Make your own. Save the planet.
This is not a fare comparison!!