[WATCH RECAP] ANC Secretary-General, Comrade Fikile Mbalula, discusses GNU with Clement Manyathela.
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- [WATCH RECAP] ANC Secretary-General, Comrade Fikile Mbalula, discusses Government of National Unity (GNU) with Clement Manyathela.
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He accused Ace that he will kill the ANC as SG but he is proofing himself wrong by killing it himself.
The gods have a funny way of communicating with us. They used him to tell us that he was going to kill the ANC and the comrades did not see it coming🙆🙆🙆
I wonder what their position is in the insourcing of private employees working in government institutions. E.g. Security guards, cleaners, etc
Notice how the ANC added other parties after this interview, i guess they realized that the DA has them by the balls in terms of decision making lol
Mbalula you lost DA won you were outsmarted ngoba uyislima
you dont understand boss .
Your statement shows that you know nothing about GNU
@@justicemanaga you allso know nothing about it. including tha full mbululu who signs tings angazazi
@@dumisanesibeko1604true very sibaningi esibgazi worse the one who signed his also cluless😂
Yes it's not New but understanding,fikile.Bohani Soweto
Calm , and performed better than in the past.75/100%🙏🇿🇦👍
If DA iphuma you are powerless nokubala anikwazi mbalula useless
Why fight the National Party and the DA all these years, only to deliver the black vote back to them on a silver platter?
The PEOPLE must govern per demand requires for service delivery as per representatives in government
Clement the GNU consists of 274 seats in total. The ANC has 58% in the GNU. It's needs the PAC & GOOD to reach may the 60% threshold.
Except clause 19.3 of the gnu agreement clearly states 60% of seats in the national assembly, therefore ANC'S 159 seats only represent 40%
@@sibusisomagagula8493 Is this GNU agreement available publicly? I need to read it.
Now they need to go down to the puplic participating befor constitutes what ever dision they want to made
You only think for your self and your family....stop saving we...usuthi wena thina silambile...nina nithuka okhokho bethu...😔😔
Note that this marriage btw ANC and DA - The people demands or need must be full filled and not partisan but service than authoritarianism
Yaaaa neeee!!!!!! The SG is really not clear on the position the organization has locked itself into. ANC had power, it did not know what to do with it, and now DA will show them how to use Power..... it's a shame!!!! That in my lifetime ANC got Power and Handed it back.
Can't wait for Juju's next media briefing 😂
Eish, I'm patiently waiting with you... Lol😂
GNU does not bring everyone onboard only those who approve by DA😂😂😂😂😂 ziyakhala manje zikhala ngempela futhi
Lol 😂😂😂 injalo kwamele bathole e permission Ku DA manje
ANC has 58% in the coalition government not 40% ... Clement is getting it wrong. SG's confidence seems to be low much that he can't pick up wrong suggestion from Clement😢
Exactly Clement is confusing national assembly % &GNU %
Yes they have 58% in coalition so the question is if DA don't agree with anything that ANC is proposing it won't happen because of this 20% of DA
No Sir, ANC has 58% in their 100% coalition so for it to make 60% it means either IFP other coalition partner can add 2%
No. The 60% is not calculated like that. All parties will form the 100% with 60% needed to break the deadlock that does not mean ANC has 58% in this context. ANC can't take decisions without other parties that unless 60% of GNU with it included agreed.
total number brother,
Mbalula must accept that he signed off a bad deal that outsourced decision making power to the DA. He is such a bad CEO for the ANC, the man is denying the undeniable. How on earth is he going to have 60% of the assembly without the DA? This man is incapable of being an SG that is to be trusted with the future of the ANC.
Accepting the 60% threshold for decision making was a fatal error. He killed the authority of the president and handed it over to the DA. This man has screwed up big time, watch the space. This GNU nonsense is doomed to fail 🤞🏿🤞🏿😅😅
He sounds very humble people of South Africa don't play games 😂😂
He's humble because of the lesson we teach him as residents of Mzantsi.
Iyadelela lento
Malema once said these guy can't talk and think at the same time
The ANC can still walk away from the GNU and have a coalition with progressive parties. The GNU deal is not going to help the ANC in implementing its policies if the DA is not agreeing with them. the ANC has no power in admitting any party without the DA. That's bad for the ANC, this SG must resign and Mdumiseni Ntuli to take over his position.
Arrogant don't pay at all. See where you ended up with proud 😅😅
I think you're not understanding 60% is for it is 60% of parties forming the gnu not 60% of the parliment
60% is for the parliament not GNU. Clement is right. Decisions wont be taken without DA or ANC by the GNU
ANC can get consensus with other parties, DA doesnt need to agree. They will vote on matters
Everyone seems to confuse "GNU" and "Parliament" and they're not the same thing. ANC and DA form the GNU but every single party who earned enough votes to get a seat form Parliament. Therefore, Parliament is much much larger than the GNU because it consists of both government and opposition.
@@marabunya please explain to me like you explain to a 5 year year old, what policies would ANC clutch with DA? Would they be speaking same language in Parliament or what.
Just say you accept Orania don’t sugar coat it
Education is the key look now what you have signed 😂😂😂 Gogo Zile she is holding your balls 😂😂
Fikile got dribbled by Helen when he signed that GNU 😂
The GNU is not a binding or legally binding contract. The ANC can get out of the agreement anytime they wish.
Looks like the da is now incharge of this country
True.This should be stopped before it starts.
DA is going to order SA to kiss Bricks good bye
Thanks to the people of South Africa to show these dudes to respect the will of the people
There is nothing to celebrate here 😂
This idiots of anc are going to be overthrown by those white people using contracts and courts
ANC gave power to DA where that fool youth league boy 😂😂😂
Anc now need da to agree to make rules
EFFA said, let's agree on the base, ANC said no, now they looked after their interest as the ANC now look at this delightful joint arrangement they are in 😅🤣🤣
He talks and feels like hobo in this moment. Hail the voters
Secretary and president of ANC in history who made sure it goes down 😂😂😂
Nofr does the ANC have the Veto power thats why they need the DA and others before anything is passed. Thats what people voted for and expect, so make it happen that way. You all agree or you dont pass it. Just like a court, all members of the jury need to agree. If its not like that then its not going to work. Perhaps all saying rule of law applies, the consitutional court with Chief Justice needs to make the decision for it to be democratic.
In brief m the ANC has brought the whole country back in the pre Codesa era ..
ANC does not own GNU
Being vague is what these politicians are master of dancing around the point!
Good questions n persistence to seek clarity by this guy...Mbalula is clearly doesn't know what he is talking about
Shame mbalula he is very down .looks fustrated .Hamba anc Hamba .You gone 🎉
Mbalula and Phala-Phoso are going down with his big mouth😅
It sounds like you don't know what you got yourself into.
It's very clear they don't know what they got themselves into...and he cannot answer that simple question 😂😂😂😂
Ofcourse they don't know what they got themselves into
He thinks he knows everything.
Your comrade is empty-headed. Mare matric kw mathata
The only ANC Secretary with 40%
Well done SG to make it work GNU
😂😂😂work???u will be humbled soon
😂 weeeeee
Uyisilima nawe nje ngo fikile
@@Vanderofkaren nawe usisilima
It's simple there ll be no law pass without the DA
Not true, ANC has 58% in the coalition, not 40%
Not true. Journalists should take Maths at school.
eyi lomshado,ngathi inganekwane🤣😂
Yet wherever you are you your marriage with the same anc
This is embarrassing guys, honestly. Why didn't they just sort out internal battles with their comrades instead of pushing them out? These are results of pure pride, now you get into a messy marriage because you refuse to reason with your own brothers?
No more pride now abantu bayayithsnda i ANC, they don't care who is the minister/ premier aslong we're in charge 😂😂😂😂
I'm sure you did swallow those words, because we care😮
Being provided with food parcels by Anc every month doesn't make u a better person
Uyaphupha wena ngabe akunje
Proportionate representation: Who is getting what? DA, PA, Good, IFP, FF Plus, ANC. GNU Fallacy. 😂
Deputy President
Minister of Finance
Minister of Public Enterprises
Minister of Health
Minister of Police
Minister of Home Affairs
Minister of International Relations and Cooperation
Minister of Defence and Military Veterans
Minister of Electricity
Please take note of ""Satement of Intent "" is trap to a follow-up terms and conditions
T's & C's apply 😁
But Clement must also understand that there are parties that are outside the GNU who can as well still support the GNU decisions, even if they don't have enough seats, the DA has only 87 seats.
Mbalula is mumbling 😮
ANC is naive, Mmusi couldn't change them from within ,what makes them think they can do it from the outside.....They heard of the word Markets and they froze😂
Nkonzo eluntwini SG
Fikile Mbalula failed to see they have 60% without DA in the GNU... But still i believe 3veryone in the GNU will vote against ANC pn everything 😢
Mbalula u Sisidenge .you been re acting as a woman by the time you attacking President Zuma .You so humble now .Zilly uhambe nawe good .Nomore anc .anc is overrr
Eish 60percent😂😂😂
Now you were not blue ticked nina nikhuluma amanga niwakhohlwe you said MKP they said they are waiting for uBaba
Finally there is hope in SA
Please can you give a straight answer
Who exactly will be the decision makers in the executive and who is the king pin
Is it true that the DA is the kingmaker in the executive
It's going to be talk after talk till end of the year and nothing will benefit from the nation only their marriage will benefit from this platform 😂😂
SG please stop unnecessarily shying away from what is the obvious fact, because that comes out as disingenuous and the ANC can’t afford such confusion at this moment. Also, I really got uncomfortable with your attempts to side step the question about Orania. That’s a racist Afrikaaner enclave and the ANC must vigorously oppose it without any contradiction.
You haven’t seen anything yet. Just wait till all of the details of the DA ANC agreement come to light.
It appears that Mr Mbalula understood clause 24 better than Ms Zille.
He doesn't know what he is talking about
Do u understand what you have signed 😂😂 ask Zille or go through those docs
Clement is not understanding the difference between the 60% of the GNU and that of parliament, these are two and different
He seems not to understand maths
So according to you Gogo Zille also do not understand;this document seems to be drafted by DA.Helen is answering easily and grilling Mbaluls
What happened to tht court case against Mbalula mara
Mbalula is not clever 😭😭
Talking too much of a child does not mean he is clever
Ai ANC should have gotten 10% klaar......
The question wasn't clear too. Is the interviewer referring to the legislative branch or the executive branch when talking about consensus or sufficient consensus?? And Btw NHI is already part of the law of the land, does not need to go back to parliament for anything. Probably should have not made that as an example but he's a journalist so you go big or you go home, but that attitude is fraught with danger in particular the viewers end up not clear about what that 60% threshold is all about.
Whether it's legislation decision or executive one the fact of the matter is that ANC no longer have power to take any decisions without that decision being agreed by all involved in that grand coalition...that's what Clement was trying to expose the guy about the mess they created with the DA,and he is trying to explain nothing...big up to Clement your skills are visible 😂😂😂😂
@@Graham-yj4qc Its about moving the country forward meaning only things that the two parties agree on will become legislation that's what grand coalitions or GNU's are about. You all seem to misunderstand the thrust of grand coalitions that's why you talking about the mess there's no mess here.Btw there's plenty of legislation out there they probably don't even need anymore legislation this is all red herring.
The answer to the question about the 60% is very simple to answer but it seems Razmataz is tired.
It’s 60% consensus not 60% electoral support.
Meaning 60% of the members of the GNU must agree NOT parties that constitute 60% of the electoral support must agree.
So ANC and DA can’t just go around deciding together and ignoring other members simply because they constitute 60% electoral support.
Clement also needs to distinguish between the functions of political parties and the functions of Cabinet. There needs to be a clear separation of power between party and state which is what DA has been making noise about for the longest time.
So SG is tired, he needs to rest and reset.
Helen Zilla contradicts what you saying.... It looks like you don't know what you got us into😒with different policies with the DA how is the ANC going to reform without the DA approval? Did the NEC read those clauses that Helen Zilla is referring to? Clause 17?🙆🏾♂️
Game Over 😆
Clement's Maths in not mathsing. ANC has 58% of government, not the 40% in the national assembly.
He is missing the point on 100% making up GNU.Helen even wen further to say they can't bring in other parties in this case PA. This is simple maths of saying eg Anc contributes say 58% of the GNU, DA% so the threshold is based on the make up of all participating parties not General assembly allocation.
But ANC Ina 40% iyodwa Nina anikho incharge Ni powerless neza engathi nine power
Well done SG
Very good SG let's wait for the President to give out positions.
What do you mean very good? Are you celebrating that the president powers are going to be vetoed by a political party that is diametrically opposed to your interests???
It is very much important that the SG revisit the document. If what Mrs Zille says is the truth, it is like Mr Chabeli happy that Mr Louis Lyte bought 27% shares at swallows not knowing that without them, no major decisions.
Lol you still believe your spineless ANC has power here?
Fikile grappeling with the idea that the ANC lost power
Look at Mbalula's face at 21:08 when Clement mentions that Zille says DA has the power to veto Executive decisions. Mbalula is like "Oh, shxt..."
The interesting part will be watching who Cabinet reports to? Constitutionally, I think they are held accountable by the President but does a Minister whose party is the DA report to the President or to the Federal Executive?
Mbalula bashaywe yisingisi and signed something he has no clue what it constitute. They threw him under the bus.....ziyakhala manje
His legal team should have explained the agreement to him. That's the purpose of an agreement, so everyone is on the same page. If he's not clear he needs to ask his team to clarify. The government can't just go around signing things they don't understand.
Azikakhali.....Zisazokhala😂
@@Nick-po8sfabsolutely correct 💯
Game Over 😂
Mbalule😂😂😂😂😂😂yo zyakhala DA is in power mbalula yini engathi nisayime ningafundanga wabamba islevu uMbalula
Thank God I can never vote for ANC
Me too ANC is useless
This GNU nonsense won't work 😢
ACCORDING TO WHITE BOER HELEN YOU DIDNT READ THE FINE PRINT SIR, YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT HER, EITHER YOU ACCEPT WHAT SHE SAID OR I EXPECT EARLY ELECTIONS !!🕷️🤔