Maria is Hwasa's baptismal name. The song is like a loveletter to herself. I love this song and I play it everyday. But I try to avoid reading the translations as it makes me so sad how she has to go through all the hate when she is the kindest and with the biggest heart. Hwasa is the best example of the quote: "Hurt an artist and you will see masterpieces of what you've done." LMM is my other fave Hwasa song.
Yes, there's some word play with the Maria name and Korean words. After you watch the MV for Hwasa's LMM (Lost My Mind) watch the explanation video for both songs by David Kim of DKDK-TV. LMM is the bookend song to Maria on the Maria album and watching it is not an option - you must watch the MV asap. I'm not going to spoil it by telling you why but you'll thank me later and I'm sure you'll find David's explanation video helpful and informative. Maria was an enormous hit that helped Hwasa win or be nominated for many awards including the 2020 MAMA award for best solo dance performance. Winning that award was a bit of a surprise and quite ironic. Surprising because the nominees included kpop dance legend Taemin of Shinee and ironic because Hwasa is considered to be one of the worst dancers in a group that can't dance to begin with according to the people she was talking about in Maria. Pretty much says everything you need to know about those people, eh? 😏
The beginning of Maria shows were she would be if it wasn't for her members and their suppport, the end shows were she is thanks to them. Hwasa is very powerful and badass while Hyejin (her real name) is very loving and calm. She had a really hard time due to the hate she got. In the Mamamoo Where are we now documentary she said that there was a time where she about if the pain and hate would stop if she died.
Her duality is awesome. I totally agree with you; the part about the difference between her Stage Name and 'persona' that is worn with the stage clothing to do the job, and the very real, very vulnerable, soft person underneath all of that bluster. She's doing an AMAZING job of keeping it together. I know she has been hurt many different times by many different people, the poor angel. Some of that she can dump and forget about but some of it she will feel forever, which is sad. But she uses that to power the message for everybody else. She has a GREAT way for EVERYBODY to think about the stupid bullies and damned trolls; 'does hurting me put food on your plate?' like they are completely wasting their time on hatred. If EVERYBODY really gave that some real deep thought on their own, bullying would end tomorrow. It's BRILLIANT! Too bad the song had to be written but she did it so eloquently! It's a GREAT message for anybody who gets bullied or hated on in other ways.
maria has to be hwasa's best song to date! i really appreciate how vulnerable she was in it because often times, idols just make diss tracks and talk about how they don't care about the haters, which makes no sense. like why would you write an entire song dedicated to haters if you don't give a shit about them? i like a lot of these diss tracks, mind you, but i still think the purpose of it is stupid. hwasa instead admits here that the words do affect her, they make her feel insecure and depressed, but that she's still going to keep going despite the hate. that shot of the rest of mamamoo coming in to surprise her at the end really drives home the point that no matter how she is perceived in the eyes of the public, she still has people who love and accept her for who she is.
The lyric is “Maria, Maria, neol wihan mariya”. Her word play is always so on point, even many Koreans didn’t catch that she’s not just saying Maria over and over. As others have mentioned, LMM (Lost My Mind) is the last track of this album and a sort of continuation of Maria. And I would really watch the DKDK explanation of these. There’s so many references and themes that get missed within her lyrics and her visuals- including the line about being sworn so much she has indigestion. DKDK also has an explanation video for her MV Twit. I would say that one may be even more necessary to watch, because many people misunderstand the meaning of the lyrics and miss some of the Korean cultural references.
Mamamoo responses to haters were never bragging about money or that they don’t care about the hate. What they always want to convey is hates only make them stronger and people should learn to appreciate themselves. It’s about self love and development, not hating back
Maria, LMM, and I’m a B… are three songs that Hwasa created to specifically explore 3 different paths down the “Welcome to my hater hell” rabbit hole. In Maria, Hwasa reveals several different personas that are her response to the hate directed at her. There are, according to Hwasa, two opposite Maria personas in the MV: 1) a black-haired, “good” Maria, and 2) a red-haired, “evil” Maria. Persona #1 is the innocent victim who is driven to suicide and also later depicted as being driven insane. Persona #2 is the survivor who stands apart and observes the fate of her good counterpart. She is seemingly hard-edged, unaffected, yet commenting on the irony of her attackers’ actions. At one point, she dons a flashy dress and attempts to dance as a defensive shield against the sadness, but the dance ends abruptly, with both Marias staring silently at each other. Throughout the song, the two Marias send a message of comfort to an unseen Maria from the past who has yet to make the dark choices the other Marias have taken. This latter Maria we’ll call persona #3. She remains hidden for most of the video, while the repeating message from the chorus builds in intensity: “Maria, listen up. These words are for you. … Don’t be tormented-you are beautiful just as you are.” As the song reaches its climax, both Marias are seen expressing rage, flexing and nodding as if to say “that’s right-you’re strong-fight back.” And it is at this moment that we are finally given just a glimpse of persona #3. It’s ironic that something so fleeting and easily missed by the audience could be so important. As will later become apparent, persona #3 was not only key to this song’s DNA, but it ended up reversing the relationship between fantasy and reality-the tail was about to wag the dog. [Side note: Hwasa has stated that working on this song, as well as LMM, was torture for her. Surprisingly, it wasn’t because it hurt to revisit her pain. It was because she was so angry during the making of the MV, it took a toll on her, physically and emotionally.] Concerning the storyboarding, Hwasa states in an interview that she was having difficulty formulating the ending of Maria. She had left things in an unresolved state, embodying deep loss instead of triumph. Hwasa’s solution was to roll back the clock. The damage becomes undone. You see the dead Maria revive. But something still wasn’t right. Events were only set to repeat. It’s as if tragedy was sewn into the fabric of the storyboard. Case in point: consider how the last word in the chorus, “Maria”, is expressed. The emotion conveyed in that final utterance is one of quiet gravitas, but also resignation. Each time one of the personas makes its appeal for Maria to follow the right path, it always ends in a subdued, quiet utterance, “Maria”, as if they know those words will not be heard. It will all be in vain. Finally, the end result of the rollback becomes clear when the elusive persona #3 is revealed for two brief cut-aways that seem to pass by without notice. In those moments, we see her pick up a pair of scissors and then bring it closer. She hasn’t heard the words, and is about to make a final choice. Worse yet, this persona is not a stylized or whimsical alter-ego like the other two Marias. Unadorned by fantasy elements, persona #3 represents the real Hwasa, present in the here and now. We are witnessing someone in the context of our reality, transcending the fantasy of the MV, such that the brutality of what comes next can only be hinted at. Hwasa said in an interview that she knew the storyboard had some bad mojo-persona #3 was not going to live. After spending considerable time mulling over how to fix the storyboard, Hwasa realized the missing key ingredient. She contacted the other Mamamoo members. She told them there was someone that she needed them to save. In the final, seemingly unimportant scene, the 3rd persona is saved in much the same way that the real Hwasa was saved-through the intervention and love of her closest friends. The real Hwasa could finally rest easy now. [Side note: Hwasa mentions that if her friends had walked in on her at such a black moment, she would have smiled and avoided revealing to them the path not taken. It would have been her little secret.]
In regards to your comment about the difference between k-pop stars on stage persona and their private persona, I would definitely very very very very much recommend that you guys watch Hwasa's appearances on the show I Live Alone, also known as Home Alone, depending on where you see it. You would really really enjoy seeing the real Hwasa just like all her fans did.
one thing you guys need to do now.. watch sua's cover of this song from dreamcatchers online halloween concert a few years back! this is such a beutiful song, im not much into mamamoo/Hwasa but this song is on all my playlists!
Maria Maria this is for you. The lyrics can be interpreted in three ways. 1. This is what I am telling you. A word of advice to haters. 2. Maria is Hwasa’s baptismal name, so she says it to herself. 3. Hey haters, here’s Maria. Hwasa herself is freely used as material for criticism. Since Maria has three meanings and is used repeatedly, the meaning changes depending on the meaning of each word position. What's great is that all of the meaning goes through the theme of the song.
The lyrics are genius. Maria is both her name and the Korean word. If a Korean listens to the song without looking at the lyrics, they will not think it's 'Maria' and will hear it in Korean. She especially had a lot of haters. The biggest hate is that she is ugly and not thin. The first scene is an homage to a scene from a famous movie. The most beautiful and envied woman in the village is treated like a prostitute and preys on any man. In other words, a scene where she is treated like a prostitute. In that scene, the woman sheds tears in silence. The entire story of this song is contained in that one scene. She declares to haters with this song. Okay, you guys do whatever you want. I will go my own way. I will go confidently. Because no matter what I do, you guys will make up any reason. In the last scene, her colleagues come to her with bright smiles as she is isolated, depressed, and worn out. The expression returns to her face. I am not alone. I will overcome. It shows.
Other females idols that are similar to Hwasa in the “powerful” category would be Hyolyn, Jessi and Ailee, vocals, looks, attitude and personality. (In my opinion.) All three lady’s have Killing Voices if you want to check them out.
Seriously, y'alls 'squirrel moments' crack me up. Fyi- Hwasa hurt her back during a Maria practice, and also found out her mom had been sick and gone to hospital but didn't want to worry her. This made Hwasa a sad because music made her happy but she missed out on so much.
In my mind, I think she takes a shot at the shallowness of some Netizens. She is offering her heart, and they are only interested in the shiny things on the table.
The subtitles don’t do justice to explain the lyrics. “Maria” and “LMM” lyrics have several Korean idioms and wordplays that most non-native Koreans may not get the full meaning of the story. This video “Hwasa - MARIA & LMM Explained by a Korean” is for those who want to fully understand what Hwasa says in those songs: ua-cam.com/video/Pryv3Kxl9qc/v-deo.html
The reason why your views have dropped is because you waffle on and it gets longer with every video. For example this music video is just under 4 minutes long yet you waffle on for over 19 minutes. No one wants to sit through that. 1 min intro, music video, 2-3 min outro. That's how long/short it should be.
Maria is Hwasa's baptismal name. The song is like a loveletter to herself. I love this song and I play it everyday. But I try to avoid reading the translations as it makes me so sad how she has to go through all the hate when she is the kindest and with the biggest heart. Hwasa is the best example of the quote: "Hurt an artist and you will see masterpieces of what you've done." LMM is my other fave Hwasa song.
100%
I do like to advise reactors to have tissues on hand to react to 'LMM'.
Hwasa LOVES doing wordplay on her lyrics. It's so poetic, creative, and clever. She's my favourite lyricist in Mamamoo because of that.
Yes, there's some word play with the Maria name and Korean words. After you watch the MV for Hwasa's LMM (Lost My Mind) watch the explanation video for both songs by David Kim of DKDK-TV. LMM is the bookend song to Maria on the Maria album and watching it is not an option - you must watch the MV asap. I'm not going to spoil it by telling you why but you'll thank me later and I'm sure you'll find David's explanation video helpful and informative.
Maria was an enormous hit that helped Hwasa win or be nominated for many awards including the 2020 MAMA award for best solo dance performance. Winning that award was a bit of a surprise and quite ironic. Surprising because the nominees included kpop dance legend Taemin of Shinee and ironic because Hwasa is considered to be one of the worst dancers in a group that can't dance to begin with according to the people she was talking about in Maria. Pretty much says everything you need to know about those people, eh? 😏
The beginning of Maria shows were she would be if it wasn't for her members and their suppport, the end shows were she is thanks to them.
Hwasa is very powerful and badass while Hyejin (her real name) is very loving and calm. She had a really hard time due to the hate she got. In the Mamamoo Where are we now documentary she said that there was a time where she about if the pain and hate would stop if she died.
Her duality is awesome. I totally agree with you; the part about the difference between her Stage Name and 'persona' that is worn with the stage clothing to do the job, and the very real, very vulnerable, soft person underneath all of that bluster. She's doing an AMAZING job of keeping it together.
I know she has been hurt many different times by many different people, the poor angel. Some of that she can dump and forget about but some of it she will feel forever, which is sad. But she uses that to power the message for everybody else.
She has a GREAT way for EVERYBODY to think about the stupid bullies and damned trolls; 'does hurting me put food on your plate?' like they are completely wasting their time on hatred. If EVERYBODY really gave that some real deep thought on their own, bullying would end tomorrow. It's BRILLIANT! Too bad the song had to be written but she did it so eloquently! It's a GREAT message for anybody who gets bullied or hated on in other ways.
@14:55 correct. Maria is her baptismal name and '말이야[mariya]' means 'it's a word / what I am saying (is for you)
maria has to be hwasa's best song to date! i really appreciate how vulnerable she was in it because often times, idols just make diss tracks and talk about how they don't care about the haters, which makes no sense. like why would you write an entire song dedicated to haters if you don't give a shit about them? i like a lot of these diss tracks, mind you, but i still think the purpose of it is stupid.
hwasa instead admits here that the words do affect her, they make her feel insecure and depressed, but that she's still going to keep going despite the hate. that shot of the rest of mamamoo coming in to surprise her at the end really drives home the point that no matter how she is perceived in the eyes of the public, she still has people who love and accept her for who she is.
Hwasa's catholic name is Maria that's why the song is for herself☺️
Facts 😅❤
The lyric is “Maria, Maria, neol wihan mariya”. Her word play is always so on point, even many Koreans didn’t catch that she’s not just saying Maria over and over.
As others have mentioned, LMM (Lost My Mind) is the last track of this album and a sort of continuation of Maria. And I would really watch the DKDK explanation of these. There’s so many references and themes that get missed within her lyrics and her visuals- including the line about being sworn so much she has indigestion.
DKDK also has an explanation video for her MV Twit. I would say that one may be even more necessary to watch, because many people misunderstand the meaning of the lyrics and miss some of the Korean cultural references.
Mamamoo responses to haters were never bragging about money or that they don’t care about the hate. What they always want to convey is hates only make them stronger and people should learn to appreciate themselves. It’s about self love and development, not hating back
Hwasa is definitely one of a kind. I would put Bibi up there in terms of power, presence, and putting herself into her music.
I'm loving Simon's power with the screen switching buttons 😂. You guys are so funny. And I agree Mamamoonbyul is a great portmanteau!
This is up there but my favorite Hwasa song is "Don't" with Loco
😊Love Maria and Don't but my favorite is LMM.
:D Poor Loco, he was really struggling! lol
Maria, LMM, and I’m a B… are three songs that Hwasa created to specifically explore 3 different paths down the “Welcome to my hater hell” rabbit hole. In Maria, Hwasa reveals several different personas that are her response to the hate directed at her.
There are, according to Hwasa, two opposite Maria personas in the MV: 1) a black-haired, “good” Maria, and 2) a red-haired, “evil” Maria. Persona #1 is the innocent victim who is driven to suicide and also later depicted as being driven insane. Persona #2 is the survivor who stands apart and observes the fate of her good counterpart. She is seemingly hard-edged, unaffected, yet commenting on the irony of her attackers’ actions. At one point, she dons a flashy dress and attempts to dance as a defensive shield against the sadness, but the dance ends abruptly, with both Marias staring silently at each other.
Throughout the song, the two Marias send a message of comfort to an unseen Maria from the past who has yet to make the dark choices the other Marias have taken. This latter Maria we’ll call persona #3. She remains hidden for most of the video, while the repeating message from the chorus builds in intensity: “Maria, listen up. These words are for you. … Don’t be tormented-you are beautiful just as you are.”
As the song reaches its climax, both Marias are seen expressing rage, flexing and nodding as if to say “that’s right-you’re strong-fight back.” And it is at this moment that we are finally given just a glimpse of persona #3. It’s ironic that something so fleeting and easily missed by the audience could be so important. As will later become apparent, persona #3 was not only key to this song’s DNA, but it ended up reversing the relationship between fantasy and reality-the tail was about to wag the dog.
[Side note: Hwasa has stated that working on this song, as well as LMM, was torture for her. Surprisingly, it wasn’t because it hurt to revisit her pain. It was because she was so angry during the making of the MV, it took a toll on her, physically and emotionally.]
Concerning the storyboarding, Hwasa states in an interview that she was having difficulty formulating the ending of Maria. She had left things in an unresolved state, embodying deep loss instead of triumph. Hwasa’s solution was to roll back the clock. The damage becomes undone. You see the dead Maria revive. But something still wasn’t right. Events were only set to repeat. It’s as if tragedy was sewn into the fabric of the storyboard.
Case in point: consider how the last word in the chorus, “Maria”, is expressed. The emotion conveyed in that final utterance is one of quiet gravitas, but also resignation. Each time one of the personas makes its appeal for Maria to follow the right path, it always ends in a subdued, quiet utterance, “Maria”, as if they know those words will not be heard. It will all be in vain.
Finally, the end result of the rollback becomes clear when the elusive persona #3 is revealed for two brief cut-aways that seem to pass by without notice. In those moments, we see her pick up a pair of scissors and then bring it closer. She hasn’t heard the words, and is about to make a final choice. Worse yet, this persona is not a stylized or whimsical alter-ego like the other two Marias. Unadorned by fantasy elements, persona #3 represents the real Hwasa, present in the here and now. We are witnessing someone in the context of our reality, transcending the fantasy of the MV, such that the brutality of what comes next can only be hinted at.
Hwasa said in an interview that she knew the storyboard had some bad mojo-persona #3 was not going to live. After spending considerable time mulling over how to fix the storyboard, Hwasa realized the missing key ingredient. She contacted the other Mamamoo members. She told them there was someone that she needed them to save.
In the final, seemingly unimportant scene, the 3rd persona is saved in much the same way that the real Hwasa was saved-through the intervention and love of her closest friends. The real Hwasa could finally rest easy now.
[Side note: Hwasa mentions that if her friends had walked in on her at such a black moment, she would have smiled and avoided revealing to them the path not taken. It would have been her little secret.]
I don’t listen to many girl groups…but i love Hwasa!❤
you defo need to check out Solar’s “Honey”, it was a hit when it came out and still is now.
Yes! and after the cover by Solar of Love is Gone😊😊
In regards to your comment about the difference between k-pop stars on stage persona and their private persona, I would definitely very very very very much recommend that you guys watch Hwasa's appearances on the show I Live Alone, also known as Home Alone, depending on where you see it. You would really really enjoy seeing the real Hwasa just like all her fans did.
one thing you guys need to do now.. watch sua's cover of this song from dreamcatchers online halloween concert a few years back! this is such a beutiful song, im not much into mamamoo/Hwasa but this song is on all my playlists!
Mareeya 말이야, which means words or talk in this context sounds exactly like Maria (her name) so yes it's a very clever wordplay. I love this song
Thank you so much for this
Maria Maria this is for you. The lyrics can be interpreted in three ways. 1. This is what I am telling you. A word of advice to haters. 2. Maria is Hwasa’s baptismal name, so she says it to herself. 3. Hey haters, here’s Maria. Hwasa herself is freely used as material for criticism.
Since Maria has three meanings and is used repeatedly, the meaning changes depending on the meaning of each word position. What's great is that all of the meaning goes through the theme of the song.
The lyrics are genius. Maria is both her name and the Korean word. If a Korean listens to the song without looking at the lyrics, they will not think it's 'Maria' and will hear it in Korean.
She especially had a lot of haters. The biggest hate is that she is ugly and not thin. The first scene is an homage to a scene from a famous movie. The most beautiful and envied woman in the village is treated like a prostitute and preys on any man. In other words, a scene where she is treated like a prostitute. In that scene, the woman sheds tears in silence. The entire story of this song is contained in that one scene.
She declares to haters with this song. Okay, you guys do whatever you want. I will go my own way. I will go confidently. Because no matter what I do, you guys will make up any reason.
In the last scene, her colleagues come to her with bright smiles as she is isolated, depressed, and worn out. The expression returns to her face. I am not alone. I will overcome. It shows.
I already pre-ordered Moon's new album, the limited version. Can't wait to arrive. My bank account died in this month. 🤣
Dude….you saw the MMM reaction video, Maria’s Hwasa’s baptismal nameeeee
You're right we did see it! We definitely won't be forgetting any time soon
Other females idols that are similar to Hwasa in the “powerful” category would be Hyolyn, Jessi and Ailee, vocals, looks, attitude and personality. (In my opinion.) All three lady’s have Killing Voices if you want to check them out.
Seriously, y'alls 'squirrel moments' crack me up.
Fyi- Hwasa hurt her back during a Maria practice, and also found out her mom had been sick and gone to hospital but didn't want to worry her. This made Hwasa a sad because music made her happy but she missed out on so much.
Thank you for reaction... The Title means " Marija" and in Korean it means " What are you saying... what makes Sence... Many Greetings from Germany😊
In my mind, I think she takes a shot at the shallowness of some Netizens. She is offering her heart, and they are only interested in the shiny things on the table.
The subtitles don’t do justice to explain the lyrics. “Maria” and “LMM” lyrics have several Korean idioms and wordplays that most non-native Koreans may not get the full meaning of the story.
This video “Hwasa - MARIA & LMM Explained by a Korean” is for those who want to fully understand what Hwasa says in those songs: ua-cam.com/video/Pryv3Kxl9qc/v-deo.html
Stupi..
The reason why your views have dropped is because you waffle on and it gets longer with every video. For example this music video is just under 4 minutes long yet you waffle on for over 19 minutes. No one wants to sit through that. 1 min intro, music video, 2-3 min outro. That's how long/short it should be.