I just bought a Schuberth C4 Basic, size XL (61) in Europe. Mine didn't come with integrated speakers and the part where it should be, there is just plastics covered without a hole to be able to remove it (in the neck area). I bought it used from a guy who bought it but needed a different color as he needs a fluorescent yellow as being an instructor. Did I just buy an old model or is this normal in europe?
I bought an EU version as I got tired waiting for DOT. My thoughts on fit. This helmet is not as plush as the C3 Pro. Compared to a Shoei it feels like a $200 cheap helmet. I do like the Sena integration. I also recommend the remote handle bar controller as the buttons are impossible to find with gloves on. I ended up with a very expensive set up that really isn’t worth it. With included pin lock using the sun shield with face shield down gives you three pieces of plastic to look through. Distortion is present. Now being deep into this overrated helmet I swap out the clear face shield for a dark tint. I carry my clear in the sock the tint came in. I removed the pin lock from the smoke shield and it’s much better without all the reflections and distortion. The sound from the speakers from iPhone playback is not bad. Playback from my K1600’s sat radio SUCKs. It works but sound quality is terrible. But it does work. I stick to sat nav and iPhone and use handlebar remote.
How about the mic/speakers quality will you consider making a review/video regarding the integrated coms system,or nah.I got this helmet bout 3 weeks ago and for at least a month before that i was trying to find a video with a proper review of it,thanks for being late :D . Its the best quality flip-up helmet so far.
I was planning on getting the C4. I have a Shoei Neotec that's pushing 5 years old. The Neotec is heavier than the current C3 pro so thinking that the C4 would be lighter was the reason I wanted one. Now heavier than the Neotec? No thanks. Now the Neotec 2 is on the way! Lighter than the first Neotec. Can't wait for that one. Revzilla, when is the Neotec 2 expected to be available in the US?
C4 has 86db the C3 Pro is rated 82db. Looks like the helmet has gone backwards in this key area. It’s getting very poor reviews on the Revzilla site from owners. The reviews are not as good as the C3 Pro.
Is this beauty ECE 22.05 Certified? If so, ECE certification testing is held to more stringent standards than the SNELL rated helmet. As such I think I’d prefer the Shuberth C4 over a SNELL approved.
Cerebral Method The testing is just different, not better or tougher necessarily. For instance, multiple impacts v. single, certain spots more protected v. overall strength, etc. The British system is worth checking too.
the british system (i suppose you refer to sharp) is HIGHLY controversial. there are even univercity papers that go into depth with that system and show that it is not representing a realistic view of the actual accidents that happen on the road. in other words, it is focusing on areas that are deemed "not critical" by other methods. thats why we see well known and expensive helmets like Arai or Shoei, performing worse than 50 euro/dollars/pounds chinese helmets. because big brands focus on the essential areas that need protection
dimos k I agree. There is no magic single standard. Evaluate each system and see how it works for the helmet you like or your riding style. Or just buy one of the major brands that is represented in racing and you will be fine. I did not say the Sharp ratings were best or superior or even accurate, just worth investigating. More information is always good.
agree, not bashing you in any way. just mentioning the controvertial nature of this system. but ofc, the more info we have as consumers, the better for us. as you said, when you go with a major brand, you know you are buying a safe helmet
Oklahoma Hank From what I understand, ECE is has more criteria and requires the testing of every helmet, not just random ones within a modem line, by 3rd party testers, as with DOT. DOT gets an edge on high impact and multiple impact. Snell, of course, is the highest, most rigorous standard. And, SHARP is controversial because it can rate Snell approved helmets lower than you'd expect. A combination of approvals is probably the best way to go, but if you have just one, it should probably be Snell.
The US model is slightly different than the European model, and those differences aren't quantified for the US market. All we know is that like the US-model C3 Pro, the US-model C4 meets the DOT and ECE safety standards. -DrewZilla
The Problem i have with my schuberth is that the red connector (the one that locks in with the red button for the liner) also gets removed like the one in this video (14:29) as you can see he removed the red connector... Is there a way on how to put it in again without any professional help from schuberth service center? I also noticed that the Schuberth logo and txt at the back of my Matte Black C4 Basic helmet is just a sticker, can be peeled off any time.
@@RevZilla hello thanks for your reply... What i mean is the red connector (the one that is connected to the helmet) which locks the Red Buttons of the Lining. sometimes when you take off the red button of the linings the red connector also comes with it. Is there a way to have the red connector to be attached again to the inner side of the helmet? Or is it too complicated that it needs to done by Authorized Schuberth Service Center? Pls check your video (14:29) here you can see that he also removed the detached red connector. I have also talked to some schuberth helmet owners and we have the same problem...
@RevZilla hello thanks for your reply... What i mean is the red connector (the one that is connected to the helmet) which locks the Red Buttons of the Lining. sometimes when you take off the red button of the linings the red connector also comes with it. Is there a way to have the red connector to be attached again to the inner side of the helmet? Or is it too complicated that it needs to done by Authorized Schuberth Service Center? Pls check your video (14:29) here you can see that he also removed the detached red connector. I have also talked to some schuberth helmet owners and we have the same problem...
Seems like vaporware. The Sena helmet was announced back in 2015, and they've missed every claimed release date. The latest date was June 2017, and they missed that too. Their website hasn't been updated with any new info either.
You can wipe the exterior with a damp cloth, and you would remove the cheek pads and head liner to wash separately. The speakers and microphone would remain in the helmet. -DrewZilla
I was looking at the C3 pro until I realized this is a newer version. Main reason I'm going with this helmet is you all carry the size and color scheme I want. My question is: Based on the feedback and comments I have seen, this helmet sizes differently than the C3 Pro, which was a perfect fit, will a Large C4 fit the same?
For me, size large fits very similarly for both. The major difference is the exterior shape. For those at the top end of a size, they might have to size up. For me, though, I don't have to when trying them on. -DrewZila
@@RevZilla Thank you for the reply. Since you all have such a great exchange program (already purchased a helmet, gloves, and two jackets from you all) I'll give the large a try.
Yes, the E1 is based on the C3 Pro shell, while the C4 is a brand new shell shape and different shield. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/schuberth-c3-pro-helmet *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/schuberth-e1-adventure-helmet *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/schuberth-c4-helmet
Both are suitable. It really comes down to personal preference. The C4 is a bit more aerodynamic, while the E1 offers more ventilation and the peak visor for off-road riding. -DrewZilla
Hello. I'm new to this channel and I love it! I haven't been able to find a video on what type of motorcycle is best for taller people. I am a woman, 5'10", very thin and all legs so when I stand I'm tall but when I sit people mistake me for a short person because like I said, I'm all legs. How can I find a bike that can accommodate the length of my legs? Your advice would be greatly appreciated! Again, I love your channel.
You might find our video on motorcycle types to be helpful (ua-cam.com/video/7g1R_LD0yyY/v-deo.html). For a taller bike that's light and easy to handle, consider a dual sport motorcycle like the Honda CRF250L or Kawasaki KLX250. We also have a good article on the topic. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/common-tread/how-to-choose-your-first-motorcycle
Great helmet....but.... can't find replacement shield. Tried domestic and overseas and no one has a replacement shield. All on back order. Schubert has a supply side problem. Look a different brand.
Schuberth C4 has issues. This is my 5th Schuberth in 15 + years and the worst. Pinlock visor got loose after 2 months, inner liner came off too. Wind noise with open visor is worse than predecessor helmets. Contacted Schuberth for a solutions on visor and liner as I just started a 6months Asia trip but no response. Last time I buy this "German Quality"
Yes, the SC1 is compatible with the Freewire. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/schuberth-sc1-advanced *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/schuberth-sc1-standard
How do you carry your helmet? Hold it with 1 hand or is it better to attach it to your backpack with a helmet carry strap? I would never leave it on my bike, that is crazy. Any ideas?
You can carry it by the chin bar or close the ratchet strap and carry it by the closed strap. You can also carry it in the included helmet bag. -DrewZilla
Yes, it is compatible with the Sena GoPro Backpack when you purchase the SC1 communicator unit. The helmet comes with the speakers and microphone pre-wired, but you still need to buy the controller/battery. -DrewZilla
One more thing. The reviews on Revzilla and other sites for the SC1 system in this helmet are overwhelmingly bad, like really bad i.e. shuts off for no reason, people can't understand you, radio connectivity is terrible, too difficult to turn on the intercom etc. I just noticed this today. Do you know if there have been any major firmware updates since all of these complaints mostly made in late 2017. Its obvious this is the helmet I'm thinking of buying.
This is the loudest helmet I have ever worn. I came from a Shoei GT Air to the Schuberth C4 and I am extremely disappointed. The communications system is worthless because the wind noise drowns out the speakers at speed. I should have bought another Shoei GT air and kept my SMH-5. Even with ear plugs the wind noise is awful.
@Frank D'Amelio what I really ment to say is that Schuberth is always out of stock no matter what company you buy from, but thanks for posting your video.👍
I just bought a Schuberth C4 Basic, size XL (61) in Europe. Mine didn't come with integrated speakers and the part where it should be, there is just plastics covered without a hole to be able to remove it (in the neck area). I bought it used from a guy who bought it but needed a different color as he needs a fluorescent yellow as being an instructor. Did I just buy an old model or is this normal in europe?
I bought an EU version as I got tired waiting for DOT. My thoughts on fit. This helmet is not as plush as the C3 Pro. Compared to a Shoei it feels like a $200 cheap helmet. I do like the Sena integration. I also recommend the remote handle bar controller as the buttons are impossible to find with gloves on. I ended up with a very expensive set up that really isn’t worth it. With included pin lock using the sun shield with face shield down gives you three pieces of plastic to look through. Distortion is present. Now being deep into this overrated helmet I swap out the clear face shield for a dark tint. I carry my clear in the sock the tint came in. I removed the pin lock from the smoke shield and it’s much better without all the reflections and distortion. The sound from the speakers from iPhone playback is not bad. Playback from my K1600’s sat radio SUCKs. It works but sound quality is terrible. But it does work. I stick to sat nav and iPhone and use handlebar remote.
Respect to your knowledge of the product
How about the mic/speakers quality will you consider making a review/video regarding the integrated coms system,or nah.I got this helmet bout 3 weeks ago and for at least a month before that i was trying to find a video with a proper review of it,thanks for being late :D . Its the best quality flip-up helmet so far.
Hola, where is the microphone, are hidden ? I saw the headphones, but microphone ? Thanks
I was planning on getting the C4. I have a Shoei Neotec that's pushing 5 years old. The Neotec is heavier than the current C3 pro so thinking that the C4 would be lighter was the reason I wanted one. Now heavier than the Neotec? No thanks. Now the Neotec 2 is on the way! Lighter than the first Neotec. Can't wait for that one. Revzilla, when is the Neotec 2 expected to be available in the US?
ETA for the Neotec 2 is unknown at this point. -DrewZilla
RevZilla Thanks Drew
Out here in California, cycle gear told me they are expecting march/April for the neotec 2 to arrive.
C4 has 86db the C3 Pro is rated 82db. Looks like the helmet has gone backwards in this key area. It’s getting very poor reviews on the Revzilla site from owners. The reviews are not as good as the C3 Pro.
Is this beauty ECE 22.05 Certified? If so, ECE certification testing is held to more stringent standards than the SNELL rated helmet. As such I think I’d prefer the Shuberth C4 over a SNELL approved.
Yes, it is both DOT and ECE certified. -DrewZilla
Thankfully i'm in europe and use the S size. Btw, i'm really satisfied with my C3
Great review! It's interesting that DOT required more beef, since we often hear that ECE is a more scrutinizing rating.
Cerebral Method The testing is just different, not better or tougher necessarily. For instance, multiple impacts v. single, certain spots more protected v. overall strength, etc. The British system is worth checking too.
the british system (i suppose you refer to sharp) is HIGHLY controversial. there are even univercity papers that go into depth with that system and show that it is not representing a realistic view of the actual accidents that happen on the road.
in other words, it is focusing on areas that are deemed "not critical" by other methods.
thats why we see well known and expensive helmets like Arai or Shoei, performing worse than 50 euro/dollars/pounds chinese helmets. because big brands focus on the essential areas that need protection
dimos k I agree. There is no magic single standard. Evaluate each system and see how it works for the helmet you like or your riding style. Or just buy one of the major brands that is represented in racing and you will be fine. I did not say the Sharp ratings were best or superior or even accurate, just worth investigating. More information is always good.
agree, not bashing you in any way. just mentioning the controvertial nature of this system. but ofc, the more info we have as consumers, the better for us.
as you said, when you go with a major brand, you know you are buying a safe helmet
Oklahoma Hank From what I understand, ECE is has more criteria and requires the testing of every helmet, not just random ones within a modem line, by 3rd party testers, as with DOT. DOT gets an edge on high impact and multiple impact. Snell, of course, is the highest, most rigorous standard. And, SHARP is controversial because it can rate Snell approved helmets lower than you'd expect. A combination of approvals is probably the best way to go, but if you have just one, it should probably be Snell.
Have they improved the impact absorption? The C3 was criticised for being below par.
The US model is slightly different than the European model, and those differences aren't quantified for the US market. All we know is that like the US-model C3 Pro, the US-model C4 meets the DOT and ECE safety standards. -DrewZilla
I notice you didnt try and put all that guts back into the shell, those rounded red coloured clips are a pain to re install... :0(
The Problem i have with my schuberth is that the red connector (the one that locks in with the red button for the liner) also gets removed like the one in this video (14:29) as you can see he removed the red connector... Is there a way on how to put it in again without any professional help from schuberth service center? I also noticed that the Schuberth logo and txt at the back of my Matte Black C4 Basic helmet is just a sticker, can be peeled off any time.
Is it not staying in with a press fit? -DrewZilla
@@RevZilla hello thanks for your reply... What i mean is the red connector (the one that is connected to the helmet) which locks the Red Buttons of the Lining. sometimes when you take off the red button of the linings the red connector also comes with it. Is there a way to have the red connector to be attached again to the inner side of the helmet? Or is it too complicated that it needs to done by Authorized Schuberth Service Center? Pls check your video (14:29) here you can see that he also removed the detached red connector. I have also talked to some schuberth helmet owners and we have the same problem...
@RevZilla hello thanks for your reply... What i mean is the red connector (the one that is connected to the helmet) which locks the Red Buttons of the Lining. sometimes when you take off the red button of the linings the red connector also comes with it. Is there a way to have the red connector to be attached again to the inner side of the helmet? Or is it too complicated that it needs to done by Authorized Schuberth Service Center? Pls check your video (14:29) here you can see that he also removed the detached red connector. I have also talked to some schuberth helmet owners and we have the same problem...
you guys gotta get the sena helmets!
Seems like vaporware. The Sena helmet was announced back in 2015, and they've missed every claimed release date. The latest date was June 2017, and they missed that too. Their website hasn't been updated with any new info either.
If the comms system is integrated, how do I wash the helmet without shorting the speaker and mic?
You can wipe the exterior with a damp cloth, and you would remove the cheek pads and head liner to wash separately. The speakers and microphone would remain in the helmet. -DrewZilla
Buy euro when you can. The euro AGV pista GP-R is sub 3 lbs; compared to 3.3 lbs for US version. Thanks DOT. 👍🏻
I was looking at the C3 pro until I realized this is a newer version. Main reason I'm going with this helmet is you all carry the size and color scheme I want. My question is: Based on the feedback and comments I have seen, this helmet sizes differently than the C3 Pro, which was a perfect fit, will a Large C4 fit the same?
For me, size large fits very similarly for both. The major difference is the exterior shape. For those at the top end of a size, they might have to size up. For me, though, I don't have to when trying them on. -DrewZila
@@RevZilla Thank you for the reply. Since you all have such a great exchange program (already purchased a helmet, gloves, and two jackets from you all) I'll give the large a try.
Would be great if you could compare the E1 with the C4 - apart from the peak and chin vent, is there a difference?
Yes, the E1 is based on the C3 Pro shell, while the C4 is a brand new shell shape and different shield. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/schuberth-c3-pro-helmet
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/schuberth-e1-adventure-helmet
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/schuberth-c4-helmet
Basically Incorporated S2 features and added a few bells and whistles.
Hi I have the r1200 gsa, which would be more suitable for me, E1 or C4? Thanks
Both are suitable. It really comes down to personal preference. The C4 is a bit more aerodynamic, while the E1 offers more ventilation and the peak visor for off-road riding. -DrewZilla
I wish I waited for the C4 pro. I hate having the large shell for a medium size
Hello. I'm new to this channel and I love it! I haven't been able to find a video on what type of motorcycle is best for taller people. I am a woman, 5'10", very thin and all legs so when I stand I'm tall but when I sit people mistake me for a short person because like I said, I'm all legs. How can I find a bike that can accommodate the length of my legs? Your advice would be greatly appreciated! Again, I love your channel.
You might find our video on motorcycle types to be helpful (ua-cam.com/video/7g1R_LD0yyY/v-deo.html). For a taller bike that's light and easy to handle, consider a dual sport motorcycle like the Honda CRF250L or Kawasaki KLX250. We also have a good article on the topic. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/common-tread/how-to-choose-your-first-motorcycle
GS1200 BMW
RevZilla Thank you so much for you prompt and informative response. I look forward to watching more of your videos and doing more of my own research.
Great helmet....but.... can't find replacement shield. Tried domestic and overseas and no one has a replacement shield. All on back order. Schubert has a supply side problem. Look a different brand.
is it possible to remove the integrated speakers as i have another intercom system already?
The speakers are hardwired in, so you would have to cut or desolder the speaker wires from the speakers. -DrewZilla
@@RevZilla thansk for the reply, ill be buying another helmet instead without integrated speakers
You're welcome. -DrewZilla
Is there a metal loop/D-ring on this helmet's chin strap to lock it to my bike?
No, it requires a lock adapter that slides through the ratchet slot and then can be locked to the bike. -DrewZilla
*bit.ly/HelmetLock_for_Schuberth
Question Does the new SC1 work with the old Cardo system?
No, the SC1 is Sena-based, and it doesn't work with the old Cardo system. -DrewZilla
Schuberth C4 has issues. This is my 5th Schuberth in 15 + years and the worst. Pinlock visor got loose after 2 months, inner liner came off too. Wind noise with open visor is worse than predecessor helmets. Contacted Schuberth for a solutions on visor and liner as I just started a 6months Asia trip but no response. Last time I buy this "German Quality"
Will this system pair up with the sena freewire for HD?. thanks.
Yes, the SC1 is compatible with the Freewire. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/schuberth-sc1-advanced
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/schuberth-sc1-standard
The only helmet Chris Tucker should own. “Is that C4?”
4 lbs. 2 oz is a deal breaker for me.
It's European lbs though which is less than American
@@schregen A pound is a pound in terms of weight... 0.45 kilos. No such thing as European or American pound.
U even lift, Bro?
I think it's terrible that this helmet is heavier than the C3 pro (
Take into consideration that the Com unit is already installed. The difference is minute when you take your Sena's weight into consideration.
How do you carry your helmet? Hold it with 1 hand or is it better to attach it to your backpack with a helmet carry strap? I would never leave it on my bike, that is crazy. Any ideas?
You can carry it by the chin bar or close the ratchet strap and carry it by the closed strap. You can also carry it in the included helmet bag. -DrewZilla
I have this helmet and love it the only complaint I have is, I get no ventilation with my windshield up.
dana payton is it quiet? I’m getting mixed reviews on what I’ve read so far.
Will the integrated intercom connect with the GoPro Bluetooth backpack?
Yes, it is compatible with the Sena GoPro Backpack when you purchase the SC1 communicator unit. The helmet comes with the speakers and microphone pre-wired, but you still need to buy the controller/battery. -DrewZilla
Thanks!
You're welcome!
One more thing. The reviews on Revzilla and other sites for the SC1 system in this helmet are overwhelmingly bad, like really bad i.e. shuts off for no reason, people can't understand you, radio connectivity is terrible, too difficult to turn on the intercom etc. I just noticed this today. Do you know if there have been any major firmware updates since all of these complaints mostly made in late 2017. Its obvious this is the helmet I'm thinking of buying.
This is the loudest helmet I have ever worn. I came from a Shoei GT Air to the Schuberth C4 and I am extremely disappointed. The communications system is worthless because the wind noise drowns out the speakers at speed. I should have bought another Shoei GT air and kept my SMH-5. Even with ear plugs the wind noise is awful.
Always out of stock and never the color I want, what's the point of carrying their line.
@Frank D'Amelio what I really ment to say is that Schuberth is always out of stock no matter what company you buy from, but thanks for posting your video.👍
Damned Anthony, your BPM speech is too low in this video!
Ouch, $700 for a helmet .. It better have a self deploying air bag integrated
lol
I wouldn't even pay 200$ for it. That is one HUGE and awkward looking helmet.
I returned it because of poor quality and terrible fit. I had hotspots around my ears in 25 minutes
Lol!
None removable head liner for $700 , sharpen up Schuberth
13:19
4lbs? Good grief, never for any helmet
If looking for a lighter modular helmet, consider the AGV Sportmodular. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/agv-sportmodular-carbon-helmets
6th
You're funny if you think I'm ever paying that much for a helmet. $750? Are you high?
thechillbro97 Its the best modular helmet at the moment. Its ok if you dont want to pay the price.
What can chill this guy out? Sorry, can't take it, moving on to another dealer