‘Train Insane but Undertrain’-Lionel Sanders' Ironman Strategy
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Spent some time with Lionel talking about his Kona prep and why it's so important to stick to your own plan instead of copying others. Towards the end, he shares a message from a coach that really hit home-'Don't train like anyone else. Do what works for you.' Classic Lionel, keeping it real and honest. Enjoy! - Talbot
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Thank you so much, Lionel. I'm truly touched and humbled to hear that my comment about training approaches resonated with you so deeply. It means a great deal coming from someone as knowledgeable and experienced as yourself. I'm glad I was able to contribute something meaningful to your personal journey. Your videos and insights have been invaluable for many athletes out there, so to have made even a small positive impact in return is incredibly rewarding. Thank you for taking the time to acknowledge it - your openness to ideas from your community is part of what makes you such an excellent athlete.
Lubos is the best :)! True words of a great coach!
Unfortunately, I think he is saying that he does not need a coach.
I’m a simple guy, Lionel posts and I stop everything to watch.
Agreed 💯
Same. Lol
Same…. World doesn’t exist when this happen 🦁
I’ve been waiting far too long for this!!
I must be simple, too
All I want is to see is Lionel in the mix in Kona. Don't even care if he doesn't win. Just wanna see him give it his all and be in the mix
Damn miss negative. You are bad energy
If he gets off the bike in the lead pack, the other guys will then know its going to really hurt. That in itself sets up an awesome run😊
@@paisnalija he sets up an awesome run by pacing to have just enough energy in the tank at mile 18-22 of the marathon. where he is relative to others does not matter. he must race his own race, just like he did in st george (when he let others go up the road on the bike). endurance sports are a matter of energy expenditure, and we only have so much that we can store. the more efficiently you train your capacity and translate it to speed is what makes you go fast on race day.
The best is that we Lionel fans can listen to him say everything but nothing for 12 minutes straight and hang on every word.
That was an absolutely amazing DM.
What would make some more epic content: David Goggins doing one day of training with Lionel!
underrated comment!
Our yearly LS kona Hyped. 😅
I still couldn't figure out LS training philosophy up to this point. Yes every athlete you have personalized training but it should be based on that athlete past history and reaction to that training stimulus.
I know LS wants to coach but I wouldn't sign up for this.
Totally agree.
I like your videos but your kind of the definition of can’t see the forest for the trees
Great video! Man just what I needed to hear as I am a couple weeks out from the biggest race of my life!
again a great one Lionel and Talbot! Greets from Germany
New video. I sits. I watch.
u are awesome your videos motivates me to train! greetings from argentina!
I am looking forward to the day Lionel becomes a coach. I am all-in tho I am not going to win anything. He’s the guy has been through everything so he has a story to every triathlete.
Lionel's youtube = Triathlon Bible.
Big time philosopher. It is all about letting the ego go. The very best potential is underneath an ego waiting for rising to its true limits.
So good
Let’s goooo
When is the 72 hour video coming?🥳
4hours on a stationary bike is already a killer, let alone on a daily basis, if you dont win is not because you done something wrong, its just genetics that you cant change. with that indoor training your mind is way above most!
Chat GPT coaching lol
I do fear that we are back to the "Lionel doesn't need a coach", because he knows best about himself loop. Forgetting that a CRITICAL part of being a coach is being able to look at your athlete's training objectively and at the bigger, long term picture, before an A race.
If Lionel has finally managed to do that, which he's never managed since i began following his journey about 10 years ago, then he'll be in the mix. Otherwise we'll have another teary video, like we did after 2018, about how he fubared-up. I really do hope its the former. Because that would be total 🔥🔥❗️❗️
Ten thumbs up
This is the comment I was looking for. The best thing about a coach is that they are not looking at things based on today, they are looking at what you as the athelete will be capable of on race day.
What do you mean he's back to he doesn't need a coach? He's got ChatGPT and KB's Strava to coach him.
the glass ceiling is fundamentals. Lack of focus on technique and form early in the journey will always result in "poor" performances in stacked fields of elites. It is unbelievable what such a sloppy athlete has achieved..Smart career/race choices, unbelievable effort and will. Too much emphasis on numbers vs. fundamentals I hope the words are true and the dude doesn't compare himself to others performances..that's hard earned wisdom. Celebrate what has been accomplished. Anywhere in the top 15 is a great day in a proper field.
I literally needed this video to get my mood right.
Life feels empty in the gaps between Lionel's uploads.
This is my fucking church
That's weird. You need to get a life
Jesus loves you
This guy seems to have no concept of training energy systems and why you don’t need to train 4hours regularly to race 4hrs.
Someone should do a comparison of all the sh*t he’s said he’ll never do again over the years and current training. Seems,like there’s no long term memory here at all.
He makes avkiving Out of the Sport..does t He....? so Volume does Not have an effect in vo2?
We need a tv channel with these playing 24 hours a day
Train insane but undertrain merch please
Its becoming the same ole same ole. I dunno, its entertainment only because Lionel is literally overtrained and literally killing himself to the entertainment of his slaves. There are limits, not everything is possible and the list goes on. Im out. Kona will be a disaster performance wise and that will be the end. Or I hope a road to recovery and good health.
Babe wake up! Lionel dropped another banger
Goggins & Lionel train together for a week. Whatever Lionel does Goggins has to match. ~great video also love that dm it’s so true.
Wurf, Foley, Sanders and Ditlev out of the water together would be ideal. Frothing for Kona. C’monnnnn LS
Ditlev is a much better swimmer than the rest there
Damn, wouldn’t that be a bike group
Magnus and Cam are most likely going to be ahead of Lionel in the swim. Also they probably will bike quicker and Maggy can run too so there's that problem.
Kallin and Haugenhag in the mix potentially of ‘Uber bikers’ who miss the front pack but send it down the QueenK. Also Leon. Then there is the Rasmussen Svenninsonn, who will be coming from a long way back by will likely bridge. If Lionel misses the ‘Ditlev pack’ in the swim, Rasmus may be the man to help bike him back into the race.
Do not do what others do. Um,,, yes and no. Watch the interview with Craig Alexander. Or listen to Mark Allen and how he changed to Scott Molina's training. EVERY top triathlete needs: hours and hours of work, 80 to 90% zone 2. Then 10 to 20% above zone 2 to address specific weaknesses. Since everyone has different weaknesses everyone needs 'different' training. But if Blu is training 40 hours per week, Crowie was over that prepping for Kona, everyone needs about that much time, plus or minus bit.
Sounds like Jan is no longer coaching/advising.
Lionel's attitude has really changed this year. I've really enjoyed seeing him smile so much more. He really seems to be enjoying "the journey" over this past year. You go Lionel!
Nah, this is just another false epiphany.
@@Gws525 couldn't agree more haha
Please get tested for asthma - I hear you coughing after every session
Lionel what do you listen to when you train
Lionel has me watching triathlon content i don’t even do anything triathlon related maybe one day ill give it ago
Comparing is the best part for me
I never thought I would say this about Lionel, but in the water, he's starting to look like a swimmer..........woooh! Looking forward to October. Whatever happens it's been fun.
Damn this guy seems like he’d be fun at parties
Been thinking this the past few weeks - far better to be undertrained than overtrained. How can you trust your training if it's what someone else does? I think the only way you can trust your training at this level is by doing what you specifically need to do.
LFG for Kona
I walk 45 minutes every morning.
Best first 3min of a triathlon vidéo ever!!
Great message frm Lubos Bilek, one of the best triathlon coach
update
Always good to hear you Lionel. I have been injured for some weeks and I had to cancel all my next races and I have been really down and just reanalasing everything.
But hearing you talk always gives me a sense of confidence and the motivation to keep grinding
Hang in there as I am finally back from a 3 year ankle tendon injury!
You've been talking to Alan Couzens??
I really hope so
PANTERA !!!! That is cool. Far Beyond Driven is a very cool album ... Awsome!
"The one that slows down the least wins" - Joe Friel
You are the best example of this quote (for me personally). Weldone!
I have trained and completed one marathon and 7 half marathons. In my opinion, the most important thing is getting the miles in. Speed should be an immediate thing. Once you start tapering you find that you will speed. Building up all that energy for one one day event. Miles and calories, hydration.
Does GPT have access to Blu's trainingpeaks? 😂
Yes stay present. Never think about what your fitness was in X period. That approach screws you.
Lionel, this is such an inspirational video. The message you're giving so many athletes and the fact that you're modelling the way is truly something special. You've grown so much in your racing and in your philosophy. Thanks for being you! ❤️
Being in the present or "be here now" is troublesome especially when you are competing for first place.
It destroys effective planning strategies and feedback on the training process.
Linear time is an illusion. Everything is here. The future and the past are at one point with the "present" in totality and within personal experience.
Practice greater awareness. That makes us better able to see trends in our training and be more accurate in how we feel and better at predicting RPE (Relative Effort) and heat heart rates.
Focusing on present shuts off your awareness and makes your consciousness smaller. It is useful to a point for racing (you become a race horse) but it is detrimental in the long term.
Good luck.
Go go go Lionel!!! Trust the process and wish you a good Kona race! You are and will stay my favourite Ironman triathlete cause you are the most human!
Take the pictures down on the wall in front of the treadmills. Put up a mirror and go get it. (You motivated me to get faster when you were destroying Racine 70.3 back in the day). Always a fan, let’s go!
If he keeps following Blu's sessions from yesterday, he will peak the day after the race haha.
**I know he is not doing that regularly.
Wow... What a video. Thank you for sharing. I love the idea of individuality when it comes to training. It's so easy to get caught up following everyone else as that's 'what works' but being reminded to focus and listen to your own body and how it responds to training is excellent advice 💪
The Pantera album mention...my boy 😂🤘
Hi Talbot / Lionel, love the videos. Any thoughts on a doing a Kona VLOG this year much like you did back in 2022?
Lionel Sanders you would go well teamed up with Americans cup team peddling mean watts❤
Such a coherent and clear language! Coach next Lionel - but until then you are a star brother!
My man Lionel... was that your bud Colin I saw. oops!
Good man yourself. Leo be careful 🍏🚲👍 Safe walk
The ChatGPT question got me. Man so nice 😆😆
The flavour of the monthis now stay present
You always give me more load Lionel
does lionel ever train in altitude? just wondering, cause i think kristian does the trainings in altitude
Just search his videos for altitude.
you are the one to win kona this year!
Best of luck Lionel.
6:37 Pantera mentioned
Do tons of sauna before Kona
Nice editing as always
Thoughts on biking at night vs rollers? Could be nice for sun/ protection lol
I dont think biking at night would be valuable for a guy who currently wakes up at about 5:30😂
train undersane
Mark Allen did not get injured.
Read about his 1987 Hawaii Ironman and what happened to him .
@@loulew07 I don't have to read about it. I spoke with Mark about it. Not a training injury. And then, starting in 89, 5 in a row, and then number 6 in 95. Basically a decade or more without a training injury.
Who’s the quote by I wanna look this guy up
Relative training based on intuition in order to balance progress with max load volume to avoid injury seems like a smart "organic" method. I understand why so many athletes give praise to God when they succeed; it's the same as Lionel's "organic" method; even though he doesn't say it; I think Lionel trains how he does because he has opened up to the holy spirit; he walks with God.
No limits!! I really hope you have a great race in Kona this year. Can’t wait
Lionel - you could not have said it better - after so many years listening to experts it is easy to just do what they suggest -but it is your body and mind that can take you to a win in Kona -see you there !!
Love the Pantera shoutout for their album “Far Beyond Driven.” Great training music! You’re an inspiration, Lionel. Stay healthy!
I was just thinking about I haven’t seen a post from Lionel on my morning run. Then this!!!❤
Did you do 30x100m or 30x100y though - big difference.
Agree with all the comments, he has aways been the real deal
Absolute fucking legend, that intro was gold!
I hope you win Kona! You have so much wisdom to be a fantastic coach!!
this background music is annoying lol
Love to see how Lionel has grown over the past several years!
Best coach: please dont grow a mustach (3watts)
3 weeks without a video!Why are you doing this to us 😅
no way he didn't run a red light during that monologue
No Limits 🎉
😂😂@@Christian-yo4jq
Go LS! Nothing would be better than seeing this guy get himself a Kona win! All the hard work he has put in deserves it! C’mon Lionel….put on a show and a clinic and get some!
Love the introduction! Keep up the great content, Lio!
Lionel doesnt have a coach still/again?
5:23 if its easy, you doesnt training anything -> very wrong
The nod to Pantera 🤘🏼
This is not 72 hours
Best - yet
I already booked to go to Nice next year...only to see you racing!!!!Go Lionel 🎉🎉🎉
My money is on Sam again.
Jeeze you are negative to my girl
Lionel is a PRO triathlete who ANY triathlete can relate to. That’s the magic of this channel.
Thanks Lionel, keep it up!
Hey Lionel, big fan, im new to triathlon. Doing my first competition next year. Can you give me any piece of advice how I can spot as newbie when I am in danger of being overtrained? So far I have not gotten any kind of injury. No issues with my body at all. Sometimes I am a bit tired, but I guess thats ok. I sleep well. I eat normally. So is there any way to know about that? Thanks 🙂
Lionel doesn't respond to his comments. I've done triathlon for years though. The earliest signs of overtraining are the "morning warnings" which is consistently waking up excessively tired for the amount of sleep you've gotten, even when your training load the day before wasn't particularly heavy. So for at least 4-5 mornings in a row you have gotten at least 7 hours of sleep and you are struggling to get out of bed, get moving, etc. You also may experience constant irritability. This indicates that your hormones are starting to drop and your body isn't able to recover from training at the rate you are breaking it down. There are 5 stages of overtraining syndrome, this first symptom usually indicates you are in stage 1 or 2, which is called "moderate overreaching." In stage 2 you typically start to experience extreme muscle fatigue and weakness; your legs will feel tired and weak, even at the start of your sessions. It's hard to describe, but they literally start to feel hollow; as if there's just no strength left in them. You also may feel mild/moderate tenderness all around your body, all the time. As a newer athlete, stage 2 overtraining syndrome is typically where you'll get injured. With years, if you decide to keep doing triathlon, your body will become more injury resistant and you'll be able to go further into overtraining syndrome without injury (you obviously don't want to do this). In stage 3 the symptoms remain the same but worsen, and you stop making fitness gains, or even lose some fitness. In stage 4 your fitness is consistently declining and you may develop depression and extreme mood problems (very few athletes ever experience stages 4-5 as it takes extreme motivation and injury resistance to get there). By stage 5 your immune system drops, your fitness plumits and you may develop very serious medical problems.
For stage 1: reduce volume and intensity just slightly, no need to stop training
Stage 2: take 1-4 days off and come back at about 85-90% volume you were at before, with a slight reduction in intensity
Stage 3: take 1-2 weeks off and come back at about 70-80% of previous volume
Stages 4-5: go to the doctor and be prepared to take over a month off training. Your season is over.
I'd suggest reading "the triathlon training bible" it's a fantastic source for both new and intermediate athletes.
@@rylanrussell9595 this is very helpful. I will copy this to my notes app. Thx so much for your effort and time :-)
Simple message Lionel. Train insane, but undertrain. Vote for Kona 🫶🏻