Ride a snowmobile for a 100 miles. Set up a hot tent base camp. Crank up the stove, get warm , dry your gear, defrost helmet, make food, hot cocoa and go to sleep. Wake up in the morning, fire up the stove, warm up, cook breakfast, start your snowmobile and go for a ride. Come back to base camp at the end of the day and repeat. Just can’t beat it. Maybe you need a snowmobile 😊❤️🇺🇸❄️☃️🛷🔥⛺️🌄
“Change my mind”? Not when your argument is, that a stove makes the tent life soooo enjoyable, you don’t want to leave the tent😂 I was the same way with my $600 sleep system: quilt, pad & pillow. It was sooo comfortable, I did not want to get out of it! So I leave it behind and sleep on pointy rocks instead now😂 But seriously. Thanks for posting your opinions man. To each their own as the saying goes 👍👊🏼
Personal preference, I like the work with hot tenting, gives me stuff to do, it's good exercise and it's also very satisfying sitting around a nice warm ambient place when it's freezing outside. Another thing to consider is wind, no one likes sitting around a fire in the wind and the constant wind changes that blows the smoke in your face no matter where you sit, Another thing to consider is rain, no good having a fire outside if it's pouring down. Hot tents are amazing and I would never camp the old way ever again. Just because you set up your hot tent doesn't mean you need the fire to be burning constantly, you only use it when the nice weather goes away and being outside becomes dismal. Also when you have kids hot tents are amazing! Its all about the experience and good atmosphere.. Each to their own I guess, if that's your opinion on how you feel about them then that's fine, but you can't speak for everyone 😊 great vid and enjoyed watching
Plan ahead: chain saw for wood; coal for overnight burning, or a commercial log; try adding skies to your sled making it a SMITTY SLED. You won't have to fight with the drag of snow buildup fighting your sled!
Hot tents are wonderful .I absolutely love mine as it makes winter camping much more comfortable and it means that i can take a cot bed which is night and day compared to laying on a cold and lumpy surface. Having the woodburning stove with an oven also gives you much more options for cooking a decent meal and while the weather is cold wet and windy it`s really nice to be able to sit inside a waterproof shelter and enjoy the fire without your back getting exposed to the cold. I`m a bit older now and having had my time crawling about on the floor of tiny tents , I think i deserve a bit of comfort and the hot tent definitely provides that.
I know where you are coming from. I just bought the one Tigris Northgaze Tipi tent in nylon. (3,6M wide or 12ft 4) It will be just myself and my 2 boys 8 & 12 (Mrs isn't a camper) it's a max 2 person but advertises as up to 4 so hope there is space for 1adult +2kids+stove. What works best for longer burn times? I have a fairly heavy titanium 38cm long due to that nice glass on the end and 1 side.
I only camp alone so for me a hot tent works. My hot tent only weighs 2.8kg and I'll also be using it as my summer motorbike touring tent so I'll get my money's worth out of it. My stove only weighs 2.4kg and I don't need to carry a gas stove or cylinders. Here in Scotland it's dark by 4pm in winter so it's just nice to sit in the warmth and enjoy watching the fire. I've just bought a 2nd hand pulk so I can go further from the road than I have been doing previously, just praying for snow now!
Your buddy may want to look into upgrading his hot tent setup My entire setup comes in at a whopping 8.5 pounds Absolutely worth it Being able to dry clothes while out for 2 weeks in harsh Alaska Priceless To each his own Fun to voice opinions and be on UA-cam though
@@BuzzedKitty Just purchased my first "hot tent" setup. The teepee is 1.6kg and the stove is 2kg. That's just under 8 Lb's and I went with budget options. Not too sure what the rest of my pack weights but i'd say everything all in would be no more than perhaps 15lb. Spending more money I imagine you can certainly do it much lower weight! Thanks
I think it depends if you're going out for 2 days or 2 weeks or even 2 months . If you're going to be stationary for a time you're going to want a hot tent.
I was just thinking maybe next year we extend our deep winter campout to 4 days to make the hot tents make more sense. Also, we plan out the distribution of weight in our sleds better.
I have noticed the gourmet chefs cooking food better then I make at home . Camping to me is ruffing it so dragging a huge pack around seems a bit much unless it's for a longer period of time . IMO
The scene at 2:30 of this video I believe is the motivation for all of these takes. I’ve been winter camping without a stove and I have zero desire to do that ever again. It was cold and miserable and really miserable if anything got wet, and guess what, snow makes things wet. If weight is the number one reason, then just bring less stuff. Tent and stove can weigh less than 10lbs. To think hot tent camping is the reason a pulk weighs 250lbs is disingenuous. And I like to go to public use cabins which doesn’t require a tent or a stove. But it does mean I have to collect firewood to be warm. It seems wacky to not want the option to get warm because it will motivate you to get firewood. If you really don’t care about being cold and wet (which sounds miserable) and would rather not get firewood, then don’t. 10lbs of extra weight isn’t that much to sacrifice for the option to dry everything out and get warm at least once and if you just want to hang out around the outside fire and for some reason collecting more firewood for that fire seems easier, than do that too. I do think the main beef is not liking the confined space and social scene in a hot tent, and the rest is just justifying that beef.
I agree. For years my family told the same bad stories around the campfire at deer camp. Then someone brought a generator, tv, dvd player... and I was the only guy making a fire to sit around before long. Definitely his motivation. But I think there are instances for the hot tent, as the comment thread suggests.
@@SudsMcDuff007 Thanks for reading my lengthy comment. Ya, tv's are the same thing. I think it is a valid beef, but I think it is the only valid beef and he should just raze his buddies until they get out of the tent and enjoy the outdoors. But hey, we all have different dynamics with different buddies that can be frustrating. I also wish there were more hot tents with clear plastic windows so there isn't such a claustrophobic feeling in them, and so when the sun comes out, it's inviting to get out of the tent.
What's the alternative to hot tents. hike for miles through fridged weather,set up a 4 season tent,then what ? breakout a small ( lightweight,lol) heater/ stove ? Good luck with that when your cold,wet and hypothermic.
1) sadly I'm only just now discovering your video. I wish I would have seen this last year when you posted it. I've decided that your thumbnail for this video should be at the top or at least among the top best thumbnails ever made on UA-cam. 2) furthermore, even though I only met the guy once I recognized who your friend is in this video. What's even more hilarious then your thumbnail, your video is about how bad hot tents suck, and the guy in your video made one of the best hot tent I've ever seen on his own kitchen table. everything I've said so far does not take away from the fact that you made it great video. All of your points are spot on.
From tarp tenting, winter hammocking to hot tenting I definitely find my hot tent to be the most luxurious. A bit more work than the other methods but it’s worth it if you’re doing long trips. Alternatively you can also use a Mr Heater with propane which you can run all night instead of the woodstove.
hi evan! what brand of hot tent do you use? i’m looking for a bigger tent (10P-12P) & i saw a really nice one for $1500 & im definitely okay with the price but wasn’t sure if there are nicer, tougher tents that aren’t that expensive.
@@aquarianmajo hey that’s awesome thanks for reaching out! We have a Luxe Megahorn XL it is an 8person tent(fits 3 comfortably) if you go with that brand be careful as certain distributors have created issues. For 12 people you could look at the Whiteduck or Esker tents
IMHO. You’re not a “camp time” guy. You cherish the journey. The distance. Hot tents command more camp time from set up and general chores. With these big hot tent setups, big distances aren’t as attainable. I do see your point in outside campfire time. This last hot tent event we had, we all hung out and cooked on the fire. We then retreated to our tents. Also, are you assuming people want to socialize with you? All in all, if these tents prolong camping season, I’m all in. Great topic!
I've gone solo winter camping in my Luxe 8P tent (actually good for 2 people, a dog and a stove) and yep, more cost, weight, set up time,,,,BUT, there is just something so enjoyable about knowing being able to be warm and comfortable in a harsh, cold environment, it's totally worth it for me. I can see maybe if your constantly moving it doesn't make sense, but if you're going to stay there for 2 nights or more, it's great. Of course, being outside it the reason why you went there so having a campfire and sitting outside is a must as well. I just bought a big Russian Bear tent and plan to go out this Feb into the interior of BC with a snowmobile and sled to take all my gear, hopefully onto a lake to ice fish inside the tent as well. CAN;T WAIT!!
So here’s my take on hot tents. For 2-3 night trips where the weather isn’t terrible (above -15ish & light winds) hot tents definitely aren’t necessary. It’s fun for people who like to tinker and have problems just standing around. For anything more than three nights where you are putting in lots of miles, sweating and getting equipment damp and wet, I think a hot tent becomes a necessity for maintaining your equipment. For me it’s a fascination right now. I’m learning lots and it’s fun. Thanks for putting together this video Almost & letting me tackle you in the snow ❄️. 😃. Now…back to specing out a new @superiorgear deep winter hammock setup. Next year 100% hammock!
hot tenting really opened up winter camping for myself. a nice,dry warm place to crawl into is priceless and I’m ok dialing it back a notch or two for a few months out of the year.👍
In some ways hammock hot tenting works better than standard hot tents. Being suspended towards the roof of the tarp means you are closer to where the heat collects, or you can pitch everything closer to the ground to compress the space a bit more. This is also why cots are a good thing to have when hot tenting as it gets you up off the cold floor and closer to the warmer area of the tent. The downside is it can be a pain to feed the stove wood in the night from a hammock without getting up and out. Personally as a motorcycle camper/tourer I like hot tents in the early spring and fall as it is nice to warm up and dry your gear out when you arrive. There are also some very light setups that weigh less than my Hilleberg Nammatj 3 GT, and pack up well into motorcycle panniers or a backpack.
I think it depends on the activity the hot tent will be used for. I got a hot tent and put it up under some tall pines, near a giant sledding hill, instead of building a small cabin structure out back on my property. I don't need or want a permanent structure out there. I burn wood to heat my house, so I already have the kindling gathered and wood cut. My tent woodstove is larger than those tiny little hikers tent woodstove's, though. It's a Camp Chef cylinder stove, cast iron, and fits 21 inch long logs. The hot tent is mainly used in the day time, to get warm and make hot chocolate, coffee, or other hot beverages when sledding. It's a large tent, (16 foot diameter) so the kids and grandkids can all sit inside and warm up. Being on private property I can leave the tent up and the woodstove in it all Winter. I just have to make sure to get out there and use a snow rake on the tent when there's deep or heavy snow. You made some good points. But everyone is different. To each his/her own.
50-75 lbs more??? What the heck are they setting up? A 10x12 canvas wall tent and a 1/4" steel cylinder stove? My Seek Outside tents vary from 1.5 lbs (1 person) to 17 lbs (16 person) and the titanium stoves vary from 1.5 lbs to 5 lbs, depending on size. ALWAYS have insulation for the coldest temps you're going to encounter in the morning...never count on the fire lasting all night. Set the stove on a platform or use lodge poles underneath if the snow underneath is deep or hasn't been cleared out or compacted underneath. As for wood gathering...you'll still need to gather wood if you're having a campfire outside. Agreed, smaller wood equals more processing. Agree on other points.
@@sparrowflying864 weight of a Seek Outside cub stove is 15oz with the storage bag, the medium stove is 23oz with its storage bag, and stovepipe is 1.5oz/ft...depending on the length of pipe you need. Their largest stove, the big mama, only weighs 4.65 lbs including the storage bag. A lot lighter than the 7-12 lb Chicom pomoly stoves everyone raves about.
In march i was camping in high winds at Fort William and i heard an almighty crash in the middle of the night over the sound of the roaring wind. It was a beautiful big round hot tent that collapsed under the wond and caught fire. They all got out safely but i estimate around 5 grands worth of equipment lost. My £150 tent survived no bother.
My take on this topic is that hot tents are good indeed, in some circumstances. As people get older, say in their 60s, their tolerance to cold goes down. Hot tents can contribute to keeping older people in the woods. Just like the “no child left inside” campaign of a few years ago, the “no senior left inside” campaign can be assisted by using hot tents. One fewer senior going to Florida to play shuffleboard and in the North Woods in a hot tent is commendable indeed!
So your saying a hot tent being comfortable thus you might spend more time in the tent is a fault? That's some fuzzy logic that be. Stoves been a tad needy? All fires need attendance, I mean really, did you think this video through?
I have a buddy who made a larger titanium hot tent stove that converts into a backpack. When in use it hangs off the center pole so the stove doesn’t rest on the ground and so that intake and exhaust pipes aren’t as difficult to manage, the center pole breaks apart into trekking poles. I tell him he should go Into production.
Not even going to watch this vid. Nothing better than sitting in a warm tent listing to a fire crackling inside a stove while it's drying your wet gloves n clothes . Nothing better than the ambience of the fire bouncing off the interior of your tent, while listening to the rain, snow, hail, or wind outside...yes it's mostly a nighttime thing but not always. It's not for everyone. But too me makes camping away from everyone, a way better way of camping...way more fun...getting firewood is part of the fun...it's all perception dude...what do you enjoy?....ya know?
Hot tents don’t suck. Mine only weighs 10 pounds and sleeps 4 with the stove. I can dry my cloths if needed. Condensation is considerably less. I can cook on the stove. It’s easy to set up. I love hot tents.
Baker style hot tent, not as heavy. Here in the UK we tend to have our fire outdoors and then later in the evening light the stove and cook our food. You don’t have to sit In them all evening. They can be just the same as hammock or cold tent/tarp. Collecting the wood is part of the fun and gives a sense of purpose. It’s swings and roundabouts.
I saw this video and was totally gonna argue with u but all your points u made I totally agree with! That’s why it’s nice to have friends with hot tents! Haha I actually like feeding the fire all night though…I’m the kind of person who wakes up every couple hours every night anyways so when I’d wake up I’d just throw a few logs in the stove and fall back asleep to the sound of the crackling fire. So relaxing. Your biggest point u made I agree with was how the hot tents take away from a group fire but with one or two people it’s nice to have the hot tent I think. I like my hot tent with just a Uco candle lantern for heat with the wool blanket on top of the tent. Woke up to the tent 38 degrees when the outside temp was 13 degrees so with just one candle and that blanket it got me 25 degrees warmer. It was nice not to have a cold face all night lol
Ever since hammock hot tents started getting popular, mostly over the last 4 or 5 years, I've been doing repairs on quilts that were burned when the user brushed up against the stove. Usually a quilt that is damaged that way is in pretty bad shape.
The thing is, the tent that I want the most just happens to also be a hot tent. So that I would wanna use it without a stove mostly anyway, so it seems like the best of both worlds where the stove becomes just a cool option. The Nortent Gamme 8. I love how it’s a free standing dome, I love how tall it is because I want off the ground cots & chairs as opposed to being on the ground, I love that it’s an easy setup and extremely durable, and it ain’t that heavy. Bad as looking too!! I’m a total novice though, can you tell me what advantages I might not be thinking about if I get a Hilleberg instead? I’m torn between those two, without using the stove would the double walled Hilleberg be much warmer? I have heard some people say that it would be, but then I hear other people say that a tent has very little to do with warmth and it’s almost entirely about your sleeping bag.
10 day elk hunt with just me and wife, Packed 14 pounds including tent ax and woodstove. I am not there to stand around a camp fire, I am there to be out before light and after dark. We were able to come back each night after rain and snow would soak our gear and hang it up to dry while cooking freeze dried meals on the stove, went to sleep fast after dinner and got up early and cooked food while getting dressed. I would say dry gear on long trips is why I like the stove. I have got it so my stove keeps hot coals all night so I don't have to restart in the morning and only add wood once or twice. We pick our spot where there is lots of deadfall so gathering wood is as fast as filtering water and we each take one of the tasks. My stuff isn't that new but my lighter system is a tent with stove that is less than 5 pounds. just not as good for drying a lot of gear since its small. I don't like setting up a hot tent for a weekend trip but when your planning staying in each spot for 4 to 10 days its not a big deal to me to do the extra setup and the extra weight to be dry and comfortable. Once you get your gear dialed in and you have your system dialed its fast and easy. It did take a long trip in one to change my mind.
I find it funny when people use hot tents on relatively warm autumn days. Also I think a lot of backpackers try to go as ultralight as possible thus making a hot tent and stove combo out of the question.
as a new hot tent camper myself, i do find it nice to have the warmth, the security and the protection from the wind. i would say the drawbacks are longer set up times with the bigger tents like my rock fortress. carrying around a stove, chopping piles of wood and then clean does suck. as for weight, my firehiking tent weighs about 4 lbs. i can set it up in 5 minutes or less. 6 stakes and a pole..done. its amazing. the drawback is not having snow flaps. so its exposed around the entire bottom allowing wind to enter ..but thats easily remedied with an interior tarp to block wind and give you protection from the cold ground/leaves/snow/sticks etc. as a guy with knee problems i don't think getting in and out of a hammock in the middle of the night to pee is a valid option. and there's a certain feeling about a hot tent, with the pipe stickig up, the rolling smoke, and the apperance that you cant get with a hammock or standard tent. its reminiscent of days gone by.
The only real camping is being stark naked next to an open fire started with a friction stick and an evergreen branch for a blanket. Everyone else should stay out of the woods because they do not know how to properly enjoy the outdoors. Change my mind.
Where did you get 25 to 75 lbs for a hot tent? My 6-person hot tent weighs ~8 lb (with pole and stakes) and my stove weighs 4.5 lbs. ~12.5 lbs split between 4 people is only ~3.2 lbs per person. Of course, this doesn't include saws and axes. I come from an ultralight backpacking background. I've thru-hiked the PCT and was a backcountry wilderness ranger. I've recently gotten into ski touring and snow kiting. My limiting factor is being excited about freezing overnight. It sort of sucks putting on frozen ski boots and everyone having low morale in the morning. It's really nice to be able to get out of the cold, and dry your gear. I recently bought a hot tent and I haven't used it yet. It seems like most people on UA-cam only go about 100 m from the car, with the steak and a frying pan. They're more work, but being able to set up a mobile cabin is a game changer for me. I'll let you know how it works out.
Good Video but I'm thinking of buying a hot tent. Russian Bear UP2 and you made me think about it. My question would be what about my dogs that I'm taking with me? Or all the other things that I would like to bring ? How about changing cloths or cooking breakfast getting out of the hammock in the middle of the the night to take a leak? I live in North Dakota Trees are so far and few between. I am looking for the best answer for the situation?
As for the weight issue I’ve noticed if your using the correct tent & stove for your goal its really manageable especially when your with a partner. Me and my buddy snowshoe in northwestern MT & use a tent that’s 3.25 lbs which I carry and he carry’s the 4.5 lbs stove and weight has never been a huge issue, the hot tent you were using didn’t look like it was designed for any sort of backpacking but car camping instead
You'll need 2 trees. Take 3 10×10 tarps, connect 2 of them together along a common side with 2 foot lengths wire at the grommets. Now throw this over a head high ridgeline between the trees. so that the wire is centered along the length of the ridgeline. This is the chimney. Now pitch the 3rd tarp over the top, leaving plenty of space for air to flow between the lower and upper 'roofs'. Because the tent is spacious, you may build a normal campfire with normal sized wood right in the middle of the space. You can close the ends off with smaller tarps. 3 guys can pool their tarps.
I only hot tent when I’m camping out of a car at a standard tent site, especially with my kid. Ive started using a buddy heater instead of the whole stove jack deal too, its just so much easier to use a propane setup .. hassle free and if you're using a 20lb tank it works decent into the 20’s if the tank is topped off … much colder than that you’ll have to switch to a liquid fuel military type heater or go wood burning or run the small propane tanks that attach to the buddy heater inside the tent. For those that don’t know, buddy heaters have a catalyst and effectively produce no carbon monoxide when operated correctly. I use a fuel filter on mine with the appropriate non high pressure leaching remote tank hose … also run a carbon monoxide sensor as an added measure even though the heaters have low oxygen cutoff safety features you can never be too safe. I can totally understand ditching a hot tent set up for hike in locations, its alot of extra work on top of extra work!
Would you like to come home to a cold or warm home? Hot tents are not great to have if your going far distance alone but if your in a group you can assign tasks to who pulls or brings what. It is great to have a hot tent in car camping. Its all personal preference and what everyone can afford.
I have aproximitly at least 14 to 20 tents and 1 hot tent 2 hammocks, 8 different sleeping bags, 14 different sleeping pads, every coocking utensal from titanium to cast iron, all of my gear has a perpose to the lagistics to my adventure. I love them all, My age and phisical condition are involved. I had to adapt at a very young age from familly outings to solo and now to old man camping, proper gear for the envirement you are exploring is huge. Gathering around the fire is a huge thing must always make that a goel. Camper ready NOT YET adapt and push to the end
He makes some good point, but I can't do hammocks cuz I got a bad back. And personally I mainly do campground camping, so weights not really an issue cuz im like 30 feet from my truck. Neither is finding a flat spots cuz campgrounds are usually level.
Great video. I camp in the Appalachians of Virginia. I prefer hammock camping do to the rocky terrain in the mountains. I haven't tried winter camping yet but I am considering trying out a hot tent setup this winter. I am from Florida and we camp different down there. I very quickly had to reevaluate my preferred camping methods when I moved to VA for the reasons mentioned above. I have a 4 season sleeping pad I use in my hammock but I am shopping for an underquilt as well. I also use a framed canopy tent I often erect over my hammock. I recently purchased side walls for the canopy to use when overlanding in my Jeep. I am considering converting that into a hot tent for experimental purposes. That being said, I've when overlanding, I find myself setting up the hammock for it's simplicity to get myself off the rocky ground. Setting up tearing down the hammock takes half the time as my ground tent. And I don't usually have to be concerned with water and dirt in and on my sleep setup with a hammock. Thanks for the informative and entertaining video.
Awesome video. Since a decent hot tent itself is running 2,000 CAN these days, stove and accessories not included i may just yurt/cabin it. Thanks for the video !
...try working for a couple weeks without one, claim-staking or line-cutting or timber-cruising...no way to dry your boots and clothes, you'll freeze to death like a russian in Finland. I get a big laff out of hot-tenters, sleeping on the ground...lol...fools...try getting up as high as you can in the tent, that's where the heat is...put candles under your cot, I do...
You sound like you have it down. Your long-term work situation sounds a little different than a weekend campout. What do you sleep on? Do you share a larger tent with others? Just curious. Thanks for watching.
Good video but you might be missing the point. The hot tent isn't about staying warm at night when you could just have a good sleep system for that. Its for people to enjoy while they are awake and hanging with other people. Freezing out by the communal fire isn't as enjoyable as sitting in a hot tent. It gets dark and cold super early so you want a place to enjoy the evening with friends. Sleeping is the easy part of winter camping....
Scott, my views are much the same as yours. Last time I sat around a camp fire, part of me was warm the other cold. Then to go to a cold hammock w/quilts was not enjoyable. I’d rather tend to a hot hammock tent and be warm all around. When your old warmth is your friend.
If it’s cold I’d rather have a hot tent if set it up close to where you park. I wouldn’t want to lug the tent more than a quarter mile tops if that . I’ll just stay at home camp out there
Great job, I appreciate the honest feedback on the hot tenting, I think I’d lean a bit more on your side once everything is all said and done, is it really worth it? Probably not, but it has its place and it’s own perks. Thanks for posting this! Great work! Loved the interview session I think that was creative. ATB, & have a great week!
Firstly, I've cold camped a lot and have seen -27C while sleeping inside a summer single walled half dome tent. I've also done my share of hot tenting with both canvas and nylon shelters, and continue to do so. I wouldn't trade either experiences, but I have learned to appreciate a hot tent and feel they have their place, but not just in the deep cold. I also use my hot tents for hunting and fishing during the shoulder seasons. The only difference is, I don't prepare meals inside the tent during this time. So without further adieu, here are 5 reasons to counter your 5 reasons: 1. - My current hot tent and stove weigh 8.5lbs and cost less than your Ridge Reaper and tent. 2. - Although they are a bit heavier, they're still light enough to backpack which I done, and many others routinely do. I choose a "toboggan" (pulk) when I feel like adding additional accoutrements be super comfortable. 3. - My stove is efficient enough to allow for almost an hour burn before any attention is required. Also it doesn't move that much - often not at all - due to a simple light cookie tray underneath that helps reflect heat and reduce snow melt. 4. - You will burn SIGNIFICANTLY more wood outside to keep warm than I will inside my stove. This can be witnessed anywhere while cold tenting. 5. - I've hot and cold tent camped enough with and without friends to know time spent inside is no different than the time you will take to start a fire outside and warm up and prepare a coffee/breakfast. But if I'm with friends, we'll sit outside and enjoy a fire. And finally, the shot of you sitting outside by yourself while the rest of your friends are inside their hot tent having a drink and enjoying the evening warmth...well, is just sad..lol But keep telling yourself that hot tents suck, maybe you'll convince someone..some day. :)
I should clarify that my sleep system is plenty warm enough and I allow the stove to burn out in the evening so I don't have to attend to it during the night. This is done purposely to prevent any possible dangers due to wind/pipe separation while asleep which could be fatal.
Great video, good points. Definitely a personal choice. I live in Alaska. And when I say I live in Alaska, I mean I live IN Alaska. Sold my home 6 years ago and and never looked back. I live in my tent or hammock in my jeep down to -40 Fahrenheit. All your points are true but I’m not living 2 lives (tent and home).
I have used a UCO candlier when the weather is not too cold. That along with body heat from my two large breed dogs, and myself can keep things pretty comfortable down to about 25f. In colder trmps I have used a Mr heater little buddy. Great for overnights as you only need 2 one lb propane cannisters. That will give around 12 hours of heat. That heater will get my tent (4 season/3 person Hillebrrg)to at least into the 50sF even down to 0F.
My seek outside Silex with no inner is 1 lb 5 oz with stakes stuff sack and cordage, my titanium stove in the carrying case is right at 2 lbs…3 lb 5oz weighs less than my Hilleberg Soulo…
i agree 100%. Im hammocker - use FF Volant and WM Down Pants on -20F type conditions. My setup - HH 4-Season Explorer w/ Over Cover, WB Superfly, Exped Downmat, Bag of choosing -40F or -60F FF Snowy Owl. Key mod - Vapor barrier i made - Mylar sealed to Ripstop (mylar outside). Goes over ridgeline and from over head to torso. That keeps face and breathing so comfy. Can throw compact down blanker under vapor for extra warmth (Get out gear or something). If using down, can get some condensation on it, but mostly not at all and has not been issue. Couldn't be more comfy to any temp i have been out (sub -20F),
here;s another thing I disagree with completely. Underquilt versus pad. Pad 100%. Just as comfy. Twice as warm, half the space/weight. I cannot understand why people are pushing underquilts that don't work anything under 0F and take up massive space.
They have hot tents for hammocks.... My stove weighs less than 10 lbs and i can dry socks and gear. I can get warm and i feel safer by the fire. Its a peace of mind. Its also enetaining to watch the fire. Before hot tenting i lived off a motorcycle and was hammok and tarp camping for over a year in the mountains. Trust me you can only go so long trying to get warm around a make shift fire. I lived in the woods for years in a tee pee and two years in a jeep. Having a stove has been a total game changer. I can heat up water for a warm shower even. Thats worth evey penny of a stove. To me that stove is everything.
How could I get linked up with you guys? I recently got out of the military after 20 yrs. I loved field training and I am gonna miss it. I live in the Midwest and would enjoy what you guys do.
I never thought a guy from Minnesota would come out with a video like this 😁😁 I’ve never stayed in a Hot Tent so I don’t know much about it. But just hanging out in a tent most of the day doesn’t sound to much fun. But I also think it would be nice to have a warm place to get into after hiking. 🤷🏻♂️
@@FeldwebelWolfenstool when we plan our deep winter BWCA trips we purposefully plan them for the first few weeks of February when the weather potentially is at its worst. These trips are planned months in advance. One of these years we will get lucky and get hammered!
Im a fan of hot tents, i own 2... i also have 4 other tents. All 6 serve a purpose in the style of camping i will be doing. I do not own an RTT (roof top tent) i'll sleep in truck bed with cap for overland. Besides i have seen many rtt's sustain damage in narrow trails. I do own a hamock and i love it for hike/kayak/canoe trips. I will not limit my adventures to one tent... enjoy all of the outdoors Dispersed Hot tent Stealth Overland Hike in Paddle in Family Camping adventures😊
I think hot tents are good as a base camp. I plan to use it on fishing trips in the mountains in fall. After a day of fishing or hiking around, having a warm area out of the wind to rest and enjoy a good meal with my dog will be nice. Ill see if i enjoy it.
Great video!!! I knew when I seen the picture of the sign on Facebook last weekend you had to be involved with it!!! I most likely won"t get one due to the cost and the number of times I will actually use or not use it. I just tough it out with the hammock crowd. I t was fun hanging out with Rob when he came down to Iowa, but it definitely is a lot of work to cut and split the wood. I did not get to sleep in one yet, but still don't think it would change my mind. Are you coming to Tim's event at Yellow River?
It's a lot of work and heavy for sure. This is where having the right dogs come in handy. I have a Husky and a Canadian Eskimo/Norwegian Elkhound so they do most of the sled pulling. Convenient for hauling firewood too. But YES. when you think you have enough firewood...TRIPLE it. Hot tenting is great in the late fall...it's work work work in January/February
What tents and stoves are y’all using that weight 25lbs or more. Kifaru, Argali , Vivam have so many tents and stoves that don’t tip the 6lbs mark with everything. This is even a 4p or 6p size tent.
I noticed that the best debater was not included in this. Not only are my feelings hurt, but your video is missing your biggest challenger. Despite this video being very well done, I think the lack of Buckley may be a sign of fear.
Dude I don't know where you get y'all's hot tents and stoves from, but my 6 man tent weights 9 pounds and my stove weighs 5 pounds. I've backpacked it in many days with no problem. I agree there's a time and place but when I carry my whole family I wouldn't have it any other way
You might consider adding skis to the bottom of your sleds. You can carry more gear and the skis slide over the snow/ice much easier than a sled alone.
Buddy, I’ve disliked tenting for a long time now, especially since discovering the beauty of a hammock. Nothing quite like falling asleep in the winter time, in your Arctic Gear, in a hammock. The only time that hammocks are miserable, is, if there’s actually rain or sleet, and the person camping didn’t bother to bring a tarp to tent the hammock. or maybe didn’t bring the right quality of sleeping kit. but if I’m entirely honest, we’ve all been places where the trees were just too stunted or not even present to use a hammock, and that’s where the problem starts. Everybody hates sleeping on the ground. At least when it gets cold enough, everybody does. A Person has to be willing to do a little more work at that point, and a hot tent makes all the difference. particularly if you’re gonna be outside for a week or two. When outside for more than a day or two, it’s almost a guaranteed thing that there will be moisture to contend with. Boot liners are much better when they’ve had a chance to warm up and dry overnight. Sometimes items of clothing get wet, or freeze. It’s no small blessing to be able to sort your gear out, and dry it nicely, and even to be able to melt down some of the ice and snow, and not only have something to eat and clean up properly, but to be able to give the body a good wash in a warm environment. as opposed to trying to get a body wash, while still in the sleeping bag, so you don’t freeze, while trying really hard not to get moisture inside the bag. It’s just not practical. after all, There’s a positive correlation between, being dry and clean, and being able to do well under those conditions, all other things being equal. If a person plans to go tinting in very cold weather, that’s automatically about logging in loads of winter, sleeping gear and such. At the point where it becomes too heavy to manage winter camping, maybe it’s time to invest in a skidoo with a kometiq. And maybe a sat phone for emergencies, if camping outside of areas, where cell phone service is really a thing. Just in case of emergency. Of course, that’s just one opinion.
My HT with stove weights 9lbs. Can be set up in 10min. I can sleep on my stomach/side. Requires no more than a 0deg bag and ins pad. I can dry out my wet gear. I can ice fish using ice stakes and cook my filets in a blizzard. Hammocks suck change my mind
Back in the Air Force we did a winter survival camp, we did used hot tents, the sarg or Lt says get more wood , you do it, it brings enjoyment, an a great workout an even my native Cherokee family used them to move camp to camp. An you tell us that they suck because your a backpacker, ha what do u have hand warmers to warm up your food
Whatever backpacker, your the only one laughing, till there's a dangerous blizzard an your caught in it, I would be in a hot tent, then we come look for u tomorrow
Hot tents offer comfort. At 38 with 4 kids i am all for a little comfort these days. Ive spent too many years guiding the minnesota backcountry with ultra light (sufferage) gear. It has its place but if kids or a female are involved, it is a must.
I hot tent camp from my car. So big tent. Nice stove if its 15f out i can keep it 75f inside easy. I combine it with snowboarding. So disperded camping for free instead of paying hundreds for a hotel and drying my socks by the stove after a good day boarding is great
I have the ecperience of being "Rob" but the weird part was that I was almost at the camping site already, I was just all out of energy, mistake was opening that tasty bottle of beer at the campsite, and not using that to get there. I'm alcohol using idiot but if that is something you do, it is a relly fast energy and morale boost. There are non alcoholic alternatives too, but that was what I had at the moment.
Hot tents are great for winter camping... if you are winter hiking it's all about warm gear and lightweight tents. You need to speak in circumstance. If you were doing winter survival for a week... trust me you will want to sit in a hot tent.
I get what your saying, but there is a lot of ultra light hot tents. I like being around the camp fire in the summer and fall, but in the dead of the winter the hot tent is like a cabin for me. It is really hike your own hike and doing what makes you happy. I always enjoy your content , especially in the Boundary Waters.
Hammock camping also sucks in a lot of situations. You gotta find the perfect spot in between 2 trees. In winter, if you get sweaty it's more difficult to get dry. Hypothermic sucks. I could go on but you got the idea anyway. Thanks for video
I agree with you bud. I think there are some pros. I even think it could be an added safety net for the group. But it is more work. Me and my buddy left both of our hot tens behind last weekend. Anyways have a good one try to keep your beaver from freezin and I'll see you on the trail.
Ohh so you weren’t part of the hot tent party!? And I saw you sled in so what’s your beef with weight!? But I will definitely agree on the cost segment! But if three extra pounds allows me to set up a tent for a ten day hunt and dry clothes and cook with out extra fuel and be comfortable while I’m fogged out or rained out… totally worth it!! Three pounds on a “polk?” Easily worth it! I pack in! And the hot tent adds only four ounces to my pack tent
I like the video and the pros and cons of using a hot tent. I haven't got one yet but plan on getting a hot tent soon, but am shopping around for one I like that isn't heavy, and suits my preferences. The main reason I want a hot tent, specifically a Tipi style is it's sentimental to me. When I was a child (up to age 12), my family used to do Rondevus (Black Powder Shoots), and my father had a 28 foot tipi that I loved! I'd prefer to have something like that, but carrying one of those in without a vehicle or horse, is insane! So a good lightweight tee-pee style hot tent, weather I use a stove or not, is meaningful to me. Secondly, I want the space, which they have, without the complexity of something like a cabin tent, where I can use a cot if I wish, or a stove if I feel like it. Lastly, I really don't like hammocks! Yes that is a jab at your love of your hammock ;)
All good points pros and cons. To each his own. I prefer my hammock setup year around. Nothing like downy goodness. and a relatively quick setup. I don't have a hot tent but did build a camp shelter in our woods. My family prefers it so when they come over it keeps the cold of their shoulders. That's just me being lucky and owning a couple of acres. Really enjoy your channel and the gang you hang out with. Keep up the good work. Headed out this weekend to enjoy some cold weather. Take care, Al
Love it!! But I want to be like you with friends that pull all that in so when i am freezing during the start of the day I can warm up. I sleep warm in my hammock to -15 for sure, getting up and making fire and getting other chores done is tough for an old guy like me with poor circulation. Good video. Enjoy all of your videos!!
Ride a snowmobile for a 100 miles. Set up a hot tent base camp. Crank up the stove, get warm , dry your gear, defrost helmet, make food, hot cocoa and go to sleep. Wake up in the morning, fire up the stove, warm up, cook breakfast, start your snowmobile and go for a ride. Come back to base camp at the end of the day and repeat. Just can’t beat it. Maybe you need a snowmobile 😊❤️🇺🇸❄️☃️🛷🔥⛺️🌄
Agreed! That sounds awesome.
Hahaha 😆✊🔥
@@Canadian_Craftsman 😊
Maybe you need back country skiis. 😊
@@spacecoyote6646 I have those too. Unfortunately I suck at using them 😊
“Change my mind”? Not when your argument is, that a stove makes the tent life soooo enjoyable, you don’t want to leave the tent😂
I was the same way with my $600 sleep system: quilt, pad & pillow. It was sooo comfortable, I did not want to get out of it! So I leave it behind and sleep on pointy rocks instead now😂
But seriously. Thanks for posting your opinions man. To each their own as the saying goes 👍👊🏼
Absolutely right. Maybe leave all the food at home,and just eat tree bark and snow
Personal preference, I like the work with hot tenting, gives me stuff to do, it's good exercise and it's also very satisfying sitting around a nice warm ambient place when it's freezing outside. Another thing to consider is wind, no one likes sitting around a fire in the wind and the constant wind changes that blows the smoke in your face no matter where you sit, Another thing to consider is rain, no good having a fire outside if it's pouring down. Hot tents are amazing and I would never camp the old way ever again. Just because you set up your hot tent doesn't mean you need the fire to be burning constantly, you only use it when the nice weather goes away and being outside becomes dismal. Also when you have kids hot tents are amazing! Its all about the experience and good atmosphere.. Each to their own I guess, if that's your opinion on how you feel about them then that's fine, but you can't speak for everyone 😊 great vid and enjoyed watching
Plan ahead: chain saw for wood; coal for overnight burning, or a commercial log; try adding skies to your sled making it a SMITTY SLED. You won't have to fight with the drag of snow buildup fighting your sled!
How do I get some of this coal you talk about?
Never use coal unless you want to die by carbon monoxide. Please never use it. Very dangerous.
@@WillieMakeitnever use coal. Very dangerous. Produces carbon monoxide
Hot tents are wonderful .I absolutely love mine as it makes winter camping much more comfortable and it means that i can take a cot bed which is night and day compared to laying on a cold and lumpy surface. Having the woodburning stove with an oven also gives you much more options for cooking a decent meal and while the weather is cold wet and windy it`s really nice to be able to sit inside a waterproof shelter and enjoy the fire without your back getting exposed to the cold. I`m a bit older now and having had my time crawling about on the floor of tiny tents , I think i deserve a bit of comfort and the hot tent definitely provides that.
hi! what hot tent do you use?
Hi .I have two hot tents .I have the pomoly manta tepee tent and i also have the pomoly 4 x dome tent .Both are great tents .@@aquarianmajo
I know where you are coming from. I just bought the one Tigris Northgaze Tipi tent in nylon. (3,6M wide or 12ft 4) It will be just myself and my 2 boys 8 & 12 (Mrs isn't a camper) it's a max 2 person but advertises as up to 4 so hope there is space for 1adult +2kids+stove. What works best for longer burn times? I have a fairly heavy titanium 38cm long due to that nice glass on the end and 1 side.
Sitting there all lonely by the campfire 😂
I only camp alone so for me a hot tent works. My hot tent only weighs 2.8kg and I'll also be using it as my summer motorbike touring tent so I'll get my money's worth out of it. My stove only weighs 2.4kg and I don't need to carry a gas stove or cylinders. Here in Scotland it's dark by 4pm in winter so it's just nice to sit in the warmth and enjoy watching the fire. I've just bought a 2nd hand pulk so I can go further from the road than I have been doing previously, just praying for snow now!
Can you share where I can buy the items you mentioned? Tent and stove
@@m.s.4768, I bought my Pomoly Locomotive 20 and Ti Mini Stove off Amazon and a groundsheet direct from Pomoly with free international shipping.
Your buddy may want to look into upgrading his hot tent setup
My entire setup comes in at a whopping 8.5 pounds
Absolutely worth it
Being able to dry clothes while out for 2 weeks in harsh Alaska
Priceless
To each his own
Fun to voice opinions and be on UA-cam though
Hey Zachary, what tent do you use? Thanks.
Tent and stove?
what tent do you use?
I think someone is fibbing 🤭
@@BuzzedKitty Just purchased my first "hot tent" setup. The teepee is 1.6kg and the stove is 2kg. That's just under 8 Lb's and I went with budget options. Not too sure what the rest of my pack weights but i'd say everything all in would be no more than perhaps 15lb. Spending more money I imagine you can certainly do it much lower weight! Thanks
I think it depends if you're going out for 2 days or 2 weeks or even 2 months . If you're going to be stationary for a time you're going to want a hot tent.
Yeah man hundred percent. going out for a long time 3 days or more in one spot I bring hot tent for sure
Excellent point!
I was just thinking maybe next year we extend our deep winter campout to 4 days to make the hot tents make more sense. Also, we plan out the distribution of weight in our sleds better.
@@MidwestBackpacker As crazy as the world is getting I was thinking about making the hot tent my new home 365 days per year. 😀
I have noticed the gourmet chefs cooking food better then I make at home . Camping to me is ruffing it so dragging a huge pack around seems a bit much unless it's for a longer period of time . IMO
The scene at 2:30 of this video I believe is the motivation for all of these takes. I’ve been winter camping without a stove and I have zero desire to do that ever again. It was cold and miserable and really miserable if anything got wet, and guess what, snow makes things wet. If weight is the number one reason, then just bring less stuff. Tent and stove can weigh less than 10lbs. To think hot tent camping is the reason a pulk weighs 250lbs is disingenuous.
And I like to go to public use cabins which doesn’t require a tent or a stove. But it does mean I have to collect firewood to be warm. It seems wacky to not want the option to get warm because it will motivate you to get firewood. If you really don’t care about being cold and wet (which sounds miserable) and would rather not get firewood, then don’t.
10lbs of extra weight isn’t that much to sacrifice for the option to dry everything out and get warm at least once and if you just want to hang out around the outside fire and for some reason collecting more firewood for that fire seems easier, than do that too.
I do think the main beef is not liking the confined space and social scene in a hot tent, and the rest is just justifying that beef.
I agree. For years my family told the same bad stories around the campfire at deer camp. Then someone brought a generator, tv, dvd player... and I was the only guy making a fire to sit around before long. Definitely his motivation. But I think there are instances for the hot tent, as the comment thread suggests.
@@SudsMcDuff007 Thanks for reading my lengthy comment. Ya, tv's are the same thing. I think it is a valid beef, but I think it is the only valid beef and he should just raze his buddies until they get out of the tent and enjoy the outdoors. But hey, we all have different dynamics with different buddies that can be frustrating.
I also wish there were more hot tents with clear plastic windows so there isn't such a claustrophobic feeling in them, and so when the sun comes out, it's inviting to get out of the tent.
What's the alternative to hot tents. hike for miles through fridged weather,set up a 4 season tent,then what ? breakout a small ( lightweight,lol) heater/ stove ? Good luck with that when your cold,wet and hypothermic.
1) sadly I'm only just now discovering your video. I wish I would have seen this last year when you posted it. I've decided that your thumbnail for this video should be at the top or at least among the top best thumbnails ever made on UA-cam.
2) furthermore, even though I only met the guy once I recognized who your friend is in this video. What's even more hilarious then your thumbnail, your video is about how bad hot tents suck, and the guy in your video made one of the best hot tent I've ever seen on his own kitchen table.
everything I've said so far does not take away from the fact that you made it great video. All of your points are spot on.
From tarp tenting, winter hammocking to hot tenting I definitely find my hot tent to be the most luxurious. A bit more work than the other methods but it’s worth it if you’re doing long trips. Alternatively you can also use a Mr Heater with propane which you can run all night instead of the woodstove.
Do you realize how much humidity that would put in the air? A wood stove dries things out
@@spacecoyote6646 you just have to keep your tent vented. We’ve done it a few times
hi evan! what brand of hot tent do you use? i’m looking for a bigger tent (10P-12P) & i saw a really nice one for $1500 & im definitely okay with the price but wasn’t sure if there are nicer, tougher tents that aren’t that expensive.
@@aquarianmajo hey that’s awesome thanks for reaching out! We have a Luxe Megahorn XL it is an 8person tent(fits 3 comfortably) if you go with that brand be careful as certain distributors have created issues. For 12 people you could look at the Whiteduck or Esker tents
@@aquarianmajolook into some of the nortent lavvos
IMHO. You’re not a “camp time” guy. You cherish the journey. The distance. Hot tents command more camp time from set up and general chores. With these big hot tent setups, big distances aren’t as attainable. I do see your point in outside campfire time. This last hot tent event we had, we all hung out and cooked on the fire. We then retreated to our tents. Also, are you assuming people want to socialize with you? All in all, if these tents prolong camping season, I’m all in. Great topic!
Well said!
Don't encourage him Miyagi! :-)
Thank you. Gentlemen can agree to disagree. So can we. Until next time Krusty.
You don't need a hot tent, Rob has already been suckered in... Stand strong !
@@safromnc8616 he doesn’t need one. All his friends have one! Haha.
I've gone solo winter camping in my Luxe 8P tent (actually good for 2 people, a dog and a stove) and yep, more cost, weight, set up time,,,,BUT, there is just something so enjoyable about knowing being able to be warm and comfortable in a harsh, cold environment, it's totally worth it for me. I can see maybe if your constantly moving it doesn't make sense, but if you're going to stay there for 2 nights or more, it's great. Of course, being outside it the reason why you went there so having a campfire and sitting outside is a must as well. I just bought a big Russian Bear tent and plan to go out this Feb into the interior of BC with a snowmobile and sled to take all my gear, hopefully onto a lake to ice fish inside the tent as well. CAN;T WAIT!!
So here’s my take on hot tents. For 2-3 night trips where the weather isn’t terrible (above -15ish & light winds) hot tents definitely aren’t necessary. It’s fun for people who like to tinker and have problems just standing around. For anything more than three nights where you are putting in lots of miles, sweating and getting equipment damp and wet, I think a hot tent becomes a necessity for maintaining your equipment. For me it’s a fascination right now. I’m learning lots and it’s fun. Thanks for putting together this video Almost & letting me tackle you in the snow ❄️. 😃. Now…back to specing out a new @superiorgear deep winter hammock setup. Next year 100% hammock!
I am entertaining giving hammocks another go
...I win!....
@@MidwestBackpacker Bahahahahahahaha
You are referring to -15 degrees CELSIUS right? 😅😂
hot tenting really opened up winter camping for myself. a nice,dry warm place to crawl into is priceless and I’m ok dialing it back a notch or two for a few months out of the year.👍
In some ways hammock hot tenting works better than standard hot tents. Being suspended towards the roof of the tarp means you are closer to where the heat collects, or you can pitch everything closer to the ground to compress the space a bit more. This is also why cots are a good thing to have when hot tenting as it gets you up off the cold floor and closer to the warmer area of the tent. The downside is it can be a pain to feed the stove wood in the night from a hammock without getting up and out.
Personally as a motorcycle camper/tourer I like hot tents in the early spring and fall as it is nice to warm up and dry your gear out when you arrive. There are also some very light setups that weigh less than my Hilleberg Nammatj 3 GT, and pack up well into motorcycle panniers or a backpack.
I think it depends on the activity the hot tent will be used for.
I got a hot tent and put it up under some tall pines, near a giant sledding hill, instead of building a small cabin structure out back on my property. I don't need or want a permanent structure out there.
I burn wood to heat my house, so I already have the kindling gathered and wood cut.
My tent woodstove is larger than those tiny little hikers tent woodstove's, though.
It's a Camp Chef cylinder stove, cast iron, and fits 21 inch long logs.
The hot tent is mainly used in the day time, to get warm and make hot chocolate, coffee, or other hot beverages when sledding. It's a large tent, (16 foot diameter) so the kids and grandkids can all sit inside and warm up.
Being on private property I can leave the tent up and the woodstove in it all Winter. I just have to make sure to get out there and use a snow rake on the tent when there's deep or heavy snow.
You made some good points. But everyone is different. To each his/her own.
50-75 lbs more??? What the heck are they setting up? A 10x12 canvas wall tent and a 1/4" steel cylinder stove? My Seek Outside tents vary from 1.5 lbs (1 person) to 17 lbs (16 person) and the titanium stoves vary from 1.5 lbs to 5 lbs, depending on size.
ALWAYS have insulation for the coldest temps you're going to encounter in the morning...never count on the fire lasting all night.
Set the stove on a platform or use lodge poles underneath if the snow underneath is deep or hasn't been cleared out or compacted underneath.
As for wood gathering...you'll still need to gather wood if you're having a campfire outside. Agreed, smaller wood equals more processing.
Agree on other points.
Thank you lmao 🤣 I just said thesame amateurs 😆
Which hot tent stove is 1.5 pounds??
@@sparrowflying864 weight of a Seek Outside cub stove is 15oz with the storage bag, the medium stove is 23oz with its storage bag, and stovepipe is 1.5oz/ft...depending on the length of pipe you need. Their largest stove, the big mama, only weighs 4.65 lbs including the storage bag. A lot lighter than the 7-12 lb Chicom pomoly stoves everyone raves about.
10:50. So you like the cold.
In march i was camping in high winds at Fort William and i heard an almighty crash in the middle of the night over the sound of the roaring wind. It was a beautiful big round hot tent that collapsed under the wond and caught fire. They all got out safely but i estimate around 5 grands worth of equipment lost. My £150 tent survived no bother.
My take on this topic is that hot tents are good indeed, in some circumstances. As people get older, say in their 60s, their tolerance to cold goes down. Hot tents can contribute to keeping older people in the woods. Just like the “no child left inside” campaign of a few years ago, the “no senior left inside” campaign can be assisted by using hot tents. One fewer senior going to Florida to play shuffleboard and in the North Woods in a hot tent is commendable indeed!
Ha Ha. How old are you when you say all the work of the hot tent is to much and go to Florida?
I will NEVER go to Florida! Alligators and pythons ain’t my thing! I’ll stay in a hot tent till I’m 85 or so!
So your saying a hot tent being comfortable thus you might spend more time in the tent is a fault? That's some fuzzy logic that be. Stoves been a tad needy? All fires need attendance, I mean really, did you think this video through?
Yeah you did, click bait nonsense.
I have a buddy who made a larger titanium hot tent stove that converts into a backpack. When in use it hangs off the center pole so the stove doesn’t rest on the ground and so that intake and exhaust pipes aren’t as difficult to manage, the center pole breaks apart into trekking poles. I tell him he should go Into production.
It is good to get both the pros and the cons of hot tents. Thanks for providing this video.
Not even going to watch this vid. Nothing better than sitting in a warm tent listing to a fire crackling inside a stove while it's drying your wet gloves n clothes . Nothing better than the ambience of the fire bouncing off the interior of your tent, while listening to the rain, snow, hail, or wind outside...yes it's mostly a nighttime thing but not always. It's not for everyone. But too me makes camping away from everyone, a way better way of camping...way more fun...getting firewood is part of the fun...it's all perception dude...what do you enjoy?....ya know?
I’m going to ignore you since you didn’t watch the video. BTW. I have a hot tenting video also.
@@MidwestBackpacker lol..
Hot tents don’t suck. Mine only weighs 10 pounds and sleeps 4 with the stove. I can dry my cloths if needed. Condensation is considerably less. I can cook on the stove. It’s easy to set up. I love hot tents.
Baker style hot tent, not as heavy. Here in the UK we tend to have our fire outdoors and then later in the evening light the stove and cook our food. You don’t have to sit In them all evening. They can be just the same as hammock or cold tent/tarp. Collecting the wood is part of the fun and gives a sense of purpose. It’s swings and roundabouts.
I saw this video and was totally gonna argue with u but all your points u made I totally agree with! That’s why it’s nice to have friends with hot tents! Haha I actually like feeding the fire all night though…I’m the kind of person who wakes up every couple hours every night anyways so when I’d wake up I’d just throw a few logs in the stove and fall back asleep to the sound of the crackling fire. So relaxing. Your biggest point u made I agree with was how the hot tents take away from a group fire but with one or two people it’s nice to have the hot tent I think. I like my hot tent with just a Uco candle lantern for heat with the wool blanket on top of the tent. Woke up to the tent 38 degrees when the outside temp was 13 degrees so with just one candle and that blanket it got me 25 degrees warmer. It was nice not to have a cold face all night lol
Ever since hammock hot tents started getting popular, mostly over the last 4 or 5 years, I've been doing repairs on quilts that were burned when the user brushed up against the stove. Usually a quilt that is damaged that way is in pretty bad shape.
The thing is, the tent that I want the most just happens to also be a hot tent. So that I would wanna use it without a stove mostly anyway, so it seems like the best of both worlds where the stove becomes just a cool option. The Nortent Gamme 8. I love how it’s a free standing dome, I love how tall it is because I want off the ground cots & chairs as opposed to being on the ground, I love that it’s an easy setup and extremely durable, and it ain’t that heavy. Bad as looking too!!
I’m a total novice though, can you tell me what advantages I might not be thinking about if I get a Hilleberg instead? I’m torn between those two, without using the stove would the double walled Hilleberg be much warmer? I have heard some people say that it would be, but then I hear other people say that a tent has very little to do with warmth and it’s almost entirely about your sleeping bag.
10 day elk hunt with just me and wife, Packed 14 pounds including tent ax and woodstove. I am not there to stand around a camp fire, I am there to be out before light and after dark. We were able to come back each night after rain and snow would soak our gear and hang it up to dry while cooking freeze dried meals on the stove, went to sleep fast after dinner and got up early and cooked food while getting dressed. I would say dry gear on long trips is why I like the stove. I have got it so my stove keeps hot coals all night so I don't have to restart in the morning and only add wood once or twice. We pick our spot where there is lots of deadfall so gathering wood is as fast as filtering water and we each take one of the tasks. My stuff isn't that new but my lighter system is a tent with stove that is less than 5 pounds. just not as good for drying a lot of gear since its small. I don't like setting up a hot tent for a weekend trip but when your planning staying in each spot for 4 to 10 days its not a big deal to me to do the extra setup and the extra weight to be dry and comfortable. Once you get your gear dialed in and you have your system dialed its fast and easy. It did take a long trip in one to change my mind.
I find it funny when people use hot tents on relatively warm autumn days. Also I think a lot of backpackers try to go as ultralight as possible thus making a hot tent and stove combo out of the question.
Well if I’m cold, I’m cold and I don’t care what people thinks. I don’t backpack but I off road even in the snow thus bringing gear is not a problem.
as a new hot tent camper myself, i do find it nice to have the warmth, the security and the protection from the wind. i would say the drawbacks are longer set up times with the bigger tents like my rock fortress. carrying around a stove, chopping piles of wood and then clean does suck. as for weight, my firehiking tent weighs about 4 lbs. i can set it up in 5 minutes or less. 6 stakes and a pole..done. its amazing. the drawback is not having snow flaps. so its exposed around the entire bottom allowing wind to enter ..but thats easily remedied with an interior tarp to block wind and give you protection from the cold ground/leaves/snow/sticks etc. as a guy with knee problems i don't think getting in and out of a hammock in the middle of the night to pee is a valid option. and there's a certain feeling about a hot tent, with the pipe stickig up, the rolling smoke, and the apperance that you cant get with a hammock or standard tent. its reminiscent of days gone by.
The only real camping is being stark naked next to an open fire started with a friction stick and an evergreen branch for a blanket. Everyone else should stay out of the woods because they do not know how to properly enjoy the outdoors. Change my mind.
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@@carmenmartinez2882 haha it would take a better man than I!
Where did you get 25 to 75 lbs for a hot tent? My 6-person hot tent weighs ~8 lb (with pole and stakes) and my stove weighs 4.5 lbs. ~12.5 lbs split between 4 people is only ~3.2 lbs per person. Of course, this doesn't include saws and axes. I come from an ultralight backpacking background. I've thru-hiked the PCT and was a backcountry wilderness ranger. I've recently gotten into ski touring and snow kiting. My limiting factor is being excited about freezing overnight. It sort of sucks putting on frozen ski boots and everyone having low morale in the morning. It's really nice to be able to get out of the cold, and dry your gear. I recently bought a hot tent and I haven't used it yet. It seems like most people on UA-cam only go about 100 m from the car, with the steak and a frying pan. They're more work, but being able to set up a mobile cabin is a game changer for me. I'll let you know how it works out.
In the NE where the weather is bad a lot of the time, the hot tent is a great substitute for an outside fire.
Love my hot tent. Got the big pomoly tipi one. I even use a wood stove in the summer for cooking.
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Where do i get a 🥶 COLD rated down underquilt w/o spending $300- w/ Outdoor Vitals?
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Maybe hammock gear
Good Video but I'm thinking of buying a hot tent. Russian Bear UP2 and you made me think about it. My question would be what about my dogs that I'm taking with me? Or all the other things that I would like to bring ? How about changing cloths or cooking breakfast getting out of the hammock in the middle of the the night to take a leak? I live in North Dakota Trees are so far and few between. I am looking for the best answer for the situation?
As for the weight issue I’ve noticed if your using the correct tent & stove for your goal its really manageable especially when your with a partner. Me and my buddy snowshoe in northwestern MT & use a tent that’s 3.25 lbs which I carry and he carry’s the 4.5 lbs stove and weight has never been a huge issue, the hot tent you were using didn’t look like it was designed for any sort of backpacking but car camping instead
this video literally put me to sleep, didn't even get passed the first reason. recommend to others with insomnia.
Commenting in your sleep? Thanks for watching!
They don't suck,its good for warming up and drying out gear .
In a multi day rain storm they are a game changer.
You'll need 2 trees. Take 3 10×10 tarps, connect 2 of them together along a common side with 2 foot lengths wire at the grommets. Now throw this over a head high ridgeline between the trees. so that the wire is centered along the length of the ridgeline. This is the chimney. Now pitch the 3rd tarp over the top, leaving plenty of space for air to flow between the lower and upper 'roofs'.
Because the tent is spacious, you may build a normal campfire with normal sized wood right in the middle of the space. You can close the ends off with smaller tarps.
3 guys can pool their tarps.
I only hot tent when I’m camping out of a car at a standard tent site, especially with my kid. Ive started using a buddy heater instead of the whole stove jack deal too, its just so much easier to use a propane setup .. hassle free and if you're using a 20lb tank it works decent into the 20’s if the tank is topped off … much colder than that you’ll have to switch to a liquid fuel military type heater or go wood burning or run the small propane tanks that attach to the buddy heater inside the tent. For those that don’t know, buddy heaters have a catalyst and effectively produce no carbon monoxide when operated correctly. I use a fuel filter on mine with the appropriate non high pressure leaching remote tank hose … also run a carbon monoxide sensor as an added measure even though the heaters have low oxygen cutoff safety features you can never be too safe. I can totally understand ditching a hot tent set up for hike in locations, its alot of extra work on top of extra work!
Would you like to come home to a cold or warm home? Hot tents are not great to have if your going far distance alone but if your in a group you can assign tasks to who pulls or brings what. It is great to have a hot tent in car camping. Its all personal preference and what everyone can afford.
Were is the lemonade on their table?
I have aproximitly at least 14 to 20 tents and 1 hot tent 2 hammocks, 8 different sleeping bags, 14 different sleeping pads, every coocking utensal from titanium to cast iron, all of my gear has a perpose to the lagistics to my adventure. I love them all, My age and phisical condition are involved. I had to adapt at a very young age from familly outings to solo and now to old man camping, proper gear for the envirement you are exploring is huge.
Gathering around the fire is a huge thing must always make that a goel.
Camper ready NOT YET adapt and push to the end
He makes some good point, but I can't do hammocks cuz I got a bad back. And personally I mainly do campground camping, so weights not really an issue cuz im like 30 feet from my truck. Neither is finding a flat spots cuz campgrounds are usually level.
what are those white boot covers?
I'd love a pair
Mukluks?
Great video. I camp in the Appalachians of Virginia. I prefer hammock camping do to the rocky terrain in the mountains. I haven't tried winter camping yet but I am considering trying out a hot tent setup this winter. I am from Florida and we camp different down there. I very quickly had to reevaluate my preferred camping methods when I moved to VA for the reasons mentioned above. I have a 4 season sleeping pad I use in my hammock but I am shopping for an underquilt as well. I also use a framed canopy tent I often erect over my hammock. I recently purchased side walls for the canopy to use when overlanding in my Jeep. I am considering converting that into a hot tent for experimental purposes. That being said, I've when overlanding, I find myself setting up the hammock for it's simplicity to get myself off the rocky ground. Setting up tearing down the hammock takes half the time as my ground tent. And I don't usually have to be concerned with water and dirt in and on my sleep setup with a hammock. Thanks for the informative and entertaining video.
So basically Miagi hauls a chow tent out for the troops. I can get down with that.
Then you got Shug, -35 in a hammock. Got to love him.
Just saw his video from a few days ago at below 25. He’s the dude
Whenever I think of hot tents I wonder what melted polyester would feel like on my skin.
Awesome video. Since a decent hot tent itself is running 2,000 CAN these days, stove and accessories not included i may just yurt/cabin it. Thanks for the video !
...try working for a couple weeks without one, claim-staking or line-cutting or timber-cruising...no way to dry your boots and clothes, you'll freeze to death like a russian in Finland. I get a big laff out of hot-tenters, sleeping on the ground...lol...fools...try getting up as high as you can in the tent, that's where the heat is...put candles under your cot, I do...
You sound like you have it down. Your long-term work situation sounds a little different than a weekend campout. What do you sleep on? Do you share a larger tent with others? Just curious. Thanks for watching.
Good video but you might be missing the point. The hot tent isn't about staying warm at night when you could just have a good sleep system for that. Its for people to enjoy while they are awake and hanging with other people. Freezing out by the communal fire isn't as enjoyable as sitting in a hot tent. It gets dark and cold super early so you want a place to enjoy the evening with friends. Sleeping is the easy part of winter camping....
If you are freezing by a campfire, your campfire needs to be bigger. Thanks for watching.
Scott, my views are much the same as yours. Last time I sat around a camp fire, part of me was warm the other cold. Then to go to a cold hammock w/quilts was not enjoyable. I’d rather tend to a hot hammock tent and be warm all around. When your old warmth is your friend.
If it’s cold I’d rather have a hot tent if set it up close to where you park. I wouldn’t want to lug the tent more than a quarter mile tops if that . I’ll just stay at home camp out there
Great job, I appreciate the honest feedback on the hot tenting, I think I’d lean a bit more on your side once everything is all said and done, is it really worth it? Probably not, but it has its place and it’s own perks.
Thanks for posting this! Great work! Loved the interview session I think that was creative.
ATB, & have a great week!
Firstly, I've cold camped a lot and have seen -27C while sleeping inside a summer single walled half dome tent. I've also done my share of hot tenting with both canvas and nylon shelters, and continue to do so. I wouldn't trade either experiences, but I have learned to appreciate a hot tent and feel they have their place, but not just in the deep cold. I also use my hot tents for hunting and fishing during the shoulder seasons. The only difference is, I don't prepare meals inside the tent during this time. So without further adieu, here are 5 reasons to counter your 5 reasons: 1. - My current hot tent and stove weigh 8.5lbs and cost less than your Ridge Reaper and tent. 2. - Although they are a bit heavier, they're still light enough to backpack which I done, and many others routinely do. I choose a "toboggan" (pulk) when I feel like adding additional accoutrements be super comfortable. 3. - My stove is efficient enough to allow for almost an hour burn before any attention is required. Also it doesn't move that much - often not at all - due to a simple light cookie tray underneath that helps reflect heat and reduce snow melt. 4. - You will burn SIGNIFICANTLY more wood outside to keep warm than I will inside my stove. This can be witnessed anywhere while cold tenting. 5. - I've hot and cold tent camped enough with and without friends to know time spent inside is no different than the time you will take to start a fire outside and warm up and prepare a coffee/breakfast. But if I'm with friends, we'll sit outside and enjoy a fire. And finally, the shot of you sitting outside by yourself while the rest of your friends are inside their hot tent having a drink and enjoying the evening warmth...well, is just sad..lol But keep telling yourself that hot tents suck, maybe you'll convince someone..some day. :)
I should clarify that my sleep system is plenty warm enough and I allow the stove to burn out in the evening so I don't have to attend to it during the night. This is done purposely to prevent any possible dangers due to wind/pipe separation while asleep which could be fatal.
So your saying you could die in a hot tent? Jk like I said, everybody can enjoy their own ways of camping.
@@MidwestBackpacker Hey you didn't love my comment like you did everyone else's, I'm feeling excluded and triggered :)
Great video, good points. Definitely a personal choice.
I live in Alaska. And when I say I live in Alaska, I mean I live IN Alaska. Sold my home 6 years ago and and never looked back. I live in my tent or hammock in my jeep down to -40 Fahrenheit. All your points are true but I’m not living 2 lives (tent and home).
Awesome dude. Can I contact you about more info? I actually want to do this but I'm in Canada.
I have used a UCO candlier when the weather is not too cold. That along with body heat from my two large breed dogs, and myself can keep things pretty comfortable down to about 25f. In colder trmps I have used a Mr heater little buddy. Great for overnights as you only need 2 one lb propane cannisters. That will give around 12 hours of heat. That heater will get my tent (4 season/3 person Hillebrrg)to at least into the 50sF even down to 0F.
My seek outside Silex with no inner is 1 lb 5 oz with stakes stuff sack and cordage, my titanium stove in the carrying case is right at 2 lbs…3 lb 5oz weighs less than my Hilleberg Soulo…
You always would have a heavy winter sleeping bag for serious camping, so what's your point
Ao how does someone stay warm in xold weather camping??
i agree 100%. Im hammocker - use FF Volant and WM Down Pants on -20F type conditions. My setup - HH 4-Season Explorer w/ Over Cover, WB Superfly, Exped Downmat, Bag of choosing -40F or -60F FF Snowy Owl. Key mod - Vapor barrier i made - Mylar sealed to Ripstop (mylar outside). Goes over ridgeline and from over head to torso. That keeps face and breathing so comfy. Can throw compact down blanker under vapor for extra warmth (Get out gear or something). If using down, can get some condensation on it, but mostly not at all and has not been issue. Couldn't be more comfy to any temp i have been out (sub -20F),
here;s another thing I disagree with completely. Underquilt versus pad. Pad 100%. Just as comfy. Twice as warm, half the space/weight. I cannot understand why people are pushing underquilts that don't work anything under 0F and take up massive space.
They have hot tents for hammocks.... My stove weighs less than 10 lbs and i can dry socks and gear. I can get warm and i feel safer by the fire. Its a peace of mind. Its also enetaining to watch the fire. Before hot tenting i lived off a motorcycle and was hammok and tarp camping for over a year in the mountains. Trust me you can only go so long trying to get warm around a make shift fire. I lived in the woods for years in a tee pee and two years in a jeep. Having a stove has been a total game changer. I can heat up water for a warm shower even. Thats worth evey penny of a stove. To me that stove is everything.
How could I get linked up with you guys? I recently got out of the military after 20 yrs. I loved field training and I am gonna miss it. I live in the Midwest and would enjoy what you guys do.
I never thought a guy from Minnesota would come out with a video like this 😁😁
I’ve never stayed in a Hot Tent so I don’t know much about it. But just hanging out in a tent most of the day doesn’t sound to much fun. But I also think it would be nice to have a warm place to get into after hiking. 🤷🏻♂️
Notice you NEVER see them out when the conditions are really tough. high winds, blowing snow/sleet, etc. They stay home. I do too.
@@FeldwebelWolfenstool when we plan our deep winter BWCA trips we purposefully plan them for the first few weeks of February when the weather potentially is at its worst. These trips are planned months in advance. One of these years we will get lucky and get hammered!
Im a fan of hot tents, i own 2... i also have 4 other tents. All 6 serve a purpose in the style of camping i will be doing. I do not own an RTT (roof top tent) i'll sleep in truck bed with cap for overland. Besides i have seen many rtt's sustain damage in narrow trails. I do own a hamock and i love it for hike/kayak/canoe trips. I will not limit my adventures to one tent... enjoy all of the outdoors
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I think hot tents are good as a base camp. I plan to use it on fishing trips in the mountains in fall. After a day of fishing or hiking around, having a warm area out of the wind to rest and enjoy a good meal with my dog will be nice. Ill see if i enjoy it.
Great video!!! I knew when I seen the picture of the sign on Facebook last weekend you had to be involved with it!!! I most likely won"t get one due to the cost and the number of times I will actually use or not use it. I just tough it out with the hammock crowd. I t was fun hanging out with Rob when he came down to Iowa, but it definitely is a lot of work to cut and split the wood. I did not get to sleep in one yet, but still don't think it would change my mind. Are you coming to Tim's event at Yellow River?
It's a lot of work and heavy for sure. This is where having the right dogs come in handy. I have a Husky and a Canadian Eskimo/Norwegian Elkhound so they do most of the sled pulling. Convenient for hauling firewood too. But YES. when you think you have enough firewood...TRIPLE it. Hot tenting is great in the late fall...it's work work work in January/February
What tents and stoves are y’all using that weight 25lbs or more. Kifaru, Argali , Vivam have so many tents and stoves that don’t tip the 6lbs mark with everything. This is even a 4p or 6p size tent.
I noticed that the best debater was not included in this. Not only are my feelings hurt, but your video is missing your biggest challenger. Despite this video being very well done, I think the lack of Buckley may be a sign of fear.
Yes, you definitely are a master debater, wait maybe I spelled that wrong? :-)
@@MidwestBackpacker if you want to get technical, I'm a master debater AND a master at the other thing you implied. So...
Slept in a quinzhee a couple times. It was very comfortable but takes a while to make.
Dude I don't know where you get y'all's hot tents and stoves from, but my 6 man tent weights 9 pounds and my stove weighs 5 pounds. I've backpacked it in many days with no problem. I agree there's a time and place but when I carry my whole family I wouldn't have it any other way
You might consider adding skis to the bottom of your sleds. You can carry more gear and the skis slide over the snow/ice much easier than a sled alone.
So that's why they race dog sleds instead of dog toboggans.
Buddy, I’ve disliked tenting for a long time now, especially since discovering the beauty of a hammock.
Nothing quite like falling asleep in the winter time, in your Arctic Gear, in a hammock.
The only time that hammocks are miserable, is, if there’s actually rain or sleet, and the person camping didn’t bother to bring a tarp to tent the hammock. or maybe didn’t bring the right quality of sleeping kit.
but if I’m entirely honest, we’ve all been places where the trees were just too stunted or not even present to use a hammock, and that’s where the problem starts.
Everybody hates sleeping on the ground. At least when it gets cold enough, everybody does.
A Person has to be willing to do a little more work at that point, and a hot tent makes all the difference. particularly if you’re gonna be outside for a week or two.
When outside for more than a day or two, it’s almost a guaranteed thing that there will be moisture to contend with. Boot liners are much better when they’ve had a chance to warm up and dry overnight. Sometimes items of clothing get wet, or freeze.
It’s no small blessing to be able to sort your gear out, and dry it nicely, and even to be able to melt down some of the ice and snow, and not only have something to eat and clean up properly, but to be able to give the body a good wash in a warm environment. as opposed to trying to get a body wash, while still in the sleeping bag, so you don’t freeze, while trying really hard not to get moisture inside the bag. It’s just not practical. after all, There’s a positive correlation between, being dry and clean, and being able to do well under those conditions, all other things being equal.
If a person plans to go tinting in very cold weather, that’s automatically about logging in loads of winter, sleeping gear and such.
At the point where it becomes too heavy to manage winter camping, maybe it’s time to invest in a skidoo with a kometiq. And maybe a sat phone for emergencies, if camping outside of areas, where cell phone service is really a thing. Just in case of emergency.
Of course, that’s just one opinion.
My HT with stove weights 9lbs. Can be set up in 10min. I can sleep on my stomach/side. Requires no more than a 0deg bag and ins pad. I can dry out my wet gear. I can ice fish using ice stakes and cook my filets in a blizzard.
Hammocks suck change my mind
Where can i oirchase some good warm xamping gear
ebay, MEC
Back in the Air Force we did a winter survival camp, we did used hot tents, the sarg or Lt says get more wood , you do it, it brings enjoyment, an a great workout an even my native Cherokee family used them to move camp to camp.
An you tell us that they suck because your a backpacker, ha what do u have hand warmers to warm up your food
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Whatever backpacker, your the only one laughing, till there's a dangerous blizzard an your caught in it, I would be in a hot tent, then we come look for u tomorrow
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You clearly haven't used the Russian Bear Hot Tent. Hands down the best winter tent known to man.
Hot tents offer comfort. At 38 with 4 kids i am all for a little comfort these days. Ive spent too many years guiding the minnesota backcountry with ultra light (sufferage) gear. It has its place but if kids or a female are involved, it is a must.
Also ill add, if you camp with kids you have to have the ability to dry out kids snowgear. Constantly.
I hot tent camp from my car. So big tent. Nice stove if its 15f out i can keep it 75f inside easy. I combine it with snowboarding. So disperded camping for free instead of paying hundreds for a hotel and drying my socks by the stove after a good day boarding is great
I have the ecperience of being "Rob" but the weird part was that I was almost at the camping site already, I was just all out of energy, mistake was opening that tasty bottle of beer at the campsite, and not using that to get there. I'm alcohol using idiot but if that is something you do, it is a relly fast energy and morale boost. There are non alcoholic alternatives too, but that was what I had at the moment.
You make it sound like a hardship being comfortable and warm 😂.
Hot tents are great for winter camping... if you are winter hiking it's all about warm gear and lightweight tents. You need to speak in circumstance. If you were doing winter survival for a week... trust me you will want to sit in a hot tent.
I get what your saying, but there is a lot of ultra light hot tents. I like being around the camp fire in the summer and fall, but in the dead of the winter the hot tent is like a cabin for me. It is really hike your own hike and doing what makes you happy. I always enjoy your content , especially in the Boundary Waters.
Hammock camping also sucks in a lot of situations. You gotta find the perfect spot in between 2 trees. In winter, if you get sweaty it's more difficult to get dry. Hypothermic sucks. I could go on but you got the idea anyway. Thanks for video
You’re not wrong. 😜
I use a Gloy's Heat Pal alcohol heater and cook stove.
I love my hot tent but it's for car camping only. I'd never drag it over 100yards.
Get yourself a Snow trekker base camp tent with an Alaskan stove and 2 cots
I agree with you bud. I think there are some pros. I even think it could be an added safety net for the group. But it is more work. Me and my buddy left both of our hot tens behind last weekend. Anyways have a good one try to keep your beaver from freezin and I'll see you on the trail.
Ohh so you weren’t part of the hot tent party!? And I saw you sled in so what’s your beef with weight!? But I will definitely agree on the cost segment! But if three extra pounds allows me to set up a tent for a ten day hunt and dry clothes and cook with out extra fuel and be comfortable while I’m fogged out or rained out… totally worth it!! Three pounds on a “polk?” Easily worth it! I pack in! And the hot tent adds only four ounces to my pack tent
I like the video and the pros and cons of using a hot tent. I haven't got one yet but plan on getting a hot tent soon, but am shopping around for one I like that isn't heavy, and suits my preferences. The main reason I want a hot tent, specifically a Tipi style is it's sentimental to me. When I was a child (up to age 12), my family used to do Rondevus (Black Powder Shoots), and my father had a 28 foot tipi that I loved! I'd prefer to have something like that, but carrying one of those in without a vehicle or horse, is insane! So a good lightweight tee-pee style hot tent, weather I use a stove or not, is meaningful to me. Secondly, I want the space, which they have, without the complexity of something like a cabin tent, where I can use a cot if I wish, or a stove if I feel like it. Lastly, I really don't like hammocks! Yes that is a jab at your love of your hammock ;)
All good points pros and cons. To each his own. I prefer my hammock setup year around. Nothing like downy goodness. and a relatively quick setup. I don't have a hot tent but did build a camp shelter in our woods. My family prefers it so when they come over it keeps the cold of their shoulders. That's just me being lucky and owning a couple of acres. Really enjoy your channel and the gang you hang out with. Keep up the good work. Headed out this weekend to enjoy some cold weather. Take care, Al
Thanks for watching Al. Have fun this weekend.
Love it!! But I want to be like you with friends that pull all that in so when i am freezing during the start of the day I can warm up. I sleep warm in my hammock to -15 for sure, getting up and making fire and getting other chores done is tough for an old guy like me with poor circulation. Good video. Enjoy all of your videos!!
pound the chest… “come at me bro.” I lost it ROFL