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The spectacular sound of a Vought F4U Corsair (Startup, Take-off, Fly-by)

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  • Опубліковано 25 кві 2021
  • There's nothing like hearing the spectacular sound of the Vought F4U Corsair engine up close. Here we have the Corsair starting up, taking off, and doing a low fly-by at Triple Tree Aerodrome!
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  • @BritIronRebel
    @BritIronRebel 5 місяців тому +59

    My Father flew the F4U Corsair in WWII as a USMC aviator in the Pacific. I've got a couple of old black and white photos of him in the cockpit.

    • @helenel4126
      @helenel4126 5 місяців тому +3

      Grateful for his service. Semper fi!

    • @michaelboykin9881
      @michaelboykin9881 5 місяців тому +3

      If he's still living, tell him thank you for me. Truly the greatest generation.

    • @BritIronRebel
      @BritIronRebel 5 місяців тому +4

      @@michaelboykin9881 Unfortunately no... He would have been 100 today if he were still alive.

  • @leelibby7348
    @leelibby7348 11 місяців тому +69

    My dad, Edwin Libby, put the first 2 hours on them when they came out of the Goodyear factory in Akron Ohio, where I was born in 1944.

  • @tylermorris5221
    @tylermorris5221 Рік тому +92

    Ah the soothing sound of a cartridge starter and a 18 cylinder Pratt and Whitney engine. I love the smell of Pratt and Whitney's in the morning.

    • @crazyhorse2995
      @crazyhorse2995 6 місяців тому +3

      Damn straight.

    • @joshualesicka2603
      @joshualesicka2603 4 місяці тому +3

      Smells like victory

    • @edwardkujawa
      @edwardkujawa Місяць тому +1

      vry rich mixture on strt up when i watch thisi can smell the exhautcrazy

  • @kirkmorrison6131
    @kirkmorrison6131 10 місяців тому +35

    The most beautiful aircraft of WWII to my eye

  • @bill8985
    @bill8985 6 місяців тому +48

    The F4U is poetry

    • @anjinsan5576
      @anjinsan5576 3 місяці тому +1

      Poetry, art, and emotion. The best dam girl in the sky.

  • @jameshancock7285
    @jameshancock7285 5 місяців тому +30

    There is no mistaking the sound of a radial engine. Love those old aircraft.

  • @williamgreen1489
    @williamgreen1489 5 місяців тому +28

    One of the most beautiful aircraft ever!

  • @Me2Lancer
    @Me2Lancer 6 місяців тому +30

    Gotta love the amazing Vought F4U Corsair fighter/bomber. I lived in Grand Prairie in 1948 when Chance Vought moved into the former North American manufacturing plant there. Enjoyed watching the Corsair take offs and landings.

    • @mistervacation23
      @mistervacation23 5 місяців тому +2

      I'm from Grand Prairie, and I always loved the Corsair

  • @LJG63
    @LJG63 11 місяців тому +34

    This is a great vid, TY. My Dad had the tv show Baa Baa Black Sheep on one day, & I fell in love with this plane, & the show too! I could watch Robert Conrad & the Corsair 🤣 I was 14 & female 😅

    • @thekingsilverado3266
      @thekingsilverado3266 10 місяців тому +2

      Somewhere high up above Pappy Boyington is smiling down on all us sayin oh my gosh no sheet nuggets....

  • @tackanderson4270
    @tackanderson4270 2 місяці тому +6

    My God, what a gorgeous bird. Chokes me up!

  • @user-gb6re9eg3i
    @user-gb6re9eg3i 5 місяців тому +19

    WOW!!!THE SWEET SOUND OF HISTORY!!!

  • @zaphodsrealm1549
    @zaphodsrealm1549 Рік тому +87

    My favorite Pacific Theater aircraft, what a beast!

    • @py2rpjrubens450
      @py2rpjrubens450 Рік тому +4

      Brutal tork!

    • @thekingsilverado3266
      @thekingsilverado3266 10 місяців тому +4

      I said this before including in person to Kurt Walton that somewhere high up above Pappy B is smiling down on all of Corsair lovers.

    • @eckyx9019
      @eckyx9019 6 місяців тому +4

      Fleet Air Arm also used these fantastic aircraft. They sorted out their problems and certified their carrier use.....one of the best.

    • @user-oc5nw2fe5t
      @user-oc5nw2fe5t 5 місяців тому

      Have never seen one. Most favorite . 2 - p47 T-Bolt and 3- C 47 . It would be neat to see even a wreck of a Coursair . I understand there are so many left of the corsair. Would like to see one before they are gone. Please keep G R Ford Airport in Grand Rapids , Michigan for a show this summer . Please consider. Thanks .

  • @paulmysliborski4832
    @paulmysliborski4832 5 місяців тому +6

    This plane in the Pacific, and the P-51 in Europe really helped us along to victory in WWII.
    Majestic planes both, and a tribute to American grit and ingenuity when in really counted.

  • @TheSmarq17
    @TheSmarq17 2 місяці тому +3

    So beautiful. We are almost not deserving enough to witness this warbird in all it's grandeur. Watching this beauty take flight makes me wish that jet propulsion was never discovered and Corsairs still ruled the air like they did back in the 1940s. I will always envy those that flew this beautiful fighter in times of belligerence as well as, 80 years later, are able to fly it now as in this video. Thank you for this upload.

  • @TacticalMustache.-hv6sp
    @TacticalMustache.-hv6sp 5 місяців тому +5

    Man, the Corsair has got to be the sexiest plane ever made! With the P-51 Mustang right on its tail

  • @Ruger44Redhawk
    @Ruger44Redhawk Рік тому +27

    Finally, after waiting since I was a kid, I finally got to see a F4U Corsair not only fly but take pictures up close. I can now die a happy man! Took my kids to the Warhawk Air Museum Air Show in Nampa, ID last weekend where we saw three P-40 Warhawk's, three different P-51 Mustangs (including the Boise Bee), a P-38 Lightning, a B-25 Mitchell, some T-6's and torpedo bombers and of course the F4U Corsair. So glad I took my kids there to hear the 1940's music and watch these warbirds fly right over us.

    • @PlymouthVT
      @PlymouthVT 5 місяців тому

      That sounds like a blast!!

    • @jameshancock7285
      @jameshancock7285 4 місяці тому +1

      You should try the, Pensacola Naval Air museum. There are planes from WW1 and WW2 as well as some modern aircraft, such as the SR71. I took my boys back in the early 90s. We also stopped off and visited the USS Alabama, in Mobil Bay.

  • @castnerscutthroats9297
    @castnerscutthroats9297 3 роки тому +149

    The startup sound of the F4U Corsair is reminiscent of a combat seasoned U.S. Marine waking at O'dark thirty before moving out to the next objective

    • @TheAviatorsTV
      @TheAviatorsTV  3 роки тому +6

      Chilling!!!!

    • @davidmann4533
      @davidmann4533 Рік тому +4

      Pretty silly

    • @thekingsilverado3266
      @thekingsilverado3266 10 місяців тому +5

      Somewhere Greg Boyington is smiling down on all of us watching this stuff. I felt a kinship with Greg pappy when I got drafted into Iraq in 2001. I was accused of being him. I am a nonconformist sheet kicker. A man of my own style even begged to be court marshalled just like Greg did in late 1943 at the end of the war just before he was captured he had had enough. Greg I think was captured sometime early in 44 and said he just rode his days out in the prison camp because the Japanese treated him okay knowing how controversial the guy was they were not gonna abuse him that much. Upon his return from capture he told a senator I think was named Rolland to go to hell when the senator wanted to use him as campaign cow Boyington told the Senator to go sheet in his hat. In a bizarre twist Boyington insisted he had constantly been having drinks and meals with one of the Generals that ran the prison camp Yahatshi something I think was the Generals name. Boyington insisted as long as their talks began with the advancements he knew of concerning U.S. Navy war ships they then thereafter continually talked about what their endeavors would be after the war was over. Boyington said Yahatshi said it was too bad his daughter couldn't hook up with a warrior of Greg's stature. Greg wrote in his book he took it as compliment not a come on.

    • @2012roscoe
      @2012roscoe 10 місяців тому +1

      Drafted? Really?

    • @andrewsquire9892
      @andrewsquire9892 10 місяців тому

      The smell of the fuel and exhaust…

  • @jimsanders4412
    @jimsanders4412 10 місяців тому +13

    Between these and the P-51Ds, just can’t get enough!!👍👍

  • @yeildo1492
    @yeildo1492 6 місяців тому +7

    1:18 that shot .... what a badass airplane!

  • @tayninh69
    @tayninh69 Рік тому +48

    A beautiful take off and landing using flaps. Great sound, beautiful aircraft. JOB WELL DONE.

  • @francisbusa1074
    @francisbusa1074 9 місяців тому +5

    Nothing quite like the sight and sound of a Corsair. Love that bird.
    I once talked with a former Marine officer who flew them during the war. He called the plane a death trap. Always leaking lots of hydraulic fluid. I guess the maintenance where he was wasn't so great...

  • @hellbent7976
    @hellbent7976 Рік тому +12

    Best sounding motor ever

    • @thekingsilverado3266
      @thekingsilverado3266 10 місяців тому

      There had been a video that Diamond P sports had of an unspecified carrier at sea 1944 had a flock of Corsairs warming up on deck and taking off. It was that long ago it was on Beta tape early mid 1980s. I had worn that tape out to this day it is my favorite aircraft of all time and my shop & offices is smothered in model Corsairs and RC Corsairs. I am a marine black squadron A-10 pilot. Don't let em fool ya only the AF flies the A-10 that ain't true no more after Iraq. Marines have 2 black Squadrons of em 4 planes each. I flew way over 90 sorties over Iraq. The Navy disqualified me because I am color blind but that leads to other gifts like being able to read a bill board a little less than a half mile away which still blows my families minds and being able to see right thru a camo covered target and detect movement because I might be color blind but I am extremely far sighted. I can totally smoke a target 4 to 6 miles away & not even use electronic sighting. And I truly believe in my heart that Greg Pappy Boyington had my very same handicapped blessings from hearing reading stories about him. One tail of Boyington is the fact he just saw a glint of a little tiny reflection out of the corner of his eye in his canopy window went inverted straight down came back up like rocket ship and smoked a Zero that was after him with a single burst from his guns. Fantasy? No not if he had my eye sight gift not at all. I have high perf vision perception and I could have done such a thing as I am thee one thee only A-10 jock to ever have smoked a soviet made Mig over the Iraq Iran border ever. I saw a glint pulled my flaps and my speed brake jammed the throttle to nil went over on one wing saw the mig and smoked it with my gun not a rocket. The guy blew by me fired one rocket at me way too late. Then his butt was all mine. Boyington was god gifted not just a gifted pilot he had some other attributes other people regular people cannot comprehend. It was not all skill. Some of the skills were gods giftings.

    • @spacecoyote6646
      @spacecoyote6646 4 місяці тому

      How do you feel about the Hellcat and the thunderbolt? They used the same engine

  • @Thwarptide
    @Thwarptide 13 днів тому

    I experienced this at an airshow. They are frick’n loud on the ground and in the sky! The amazing thing is you can actually feel the power these engines produce. It takes a special pilot to handle the torque!!

  • @jeffhussey6049
    @jeffhussey6049 5 місяців тому +5

    Nice, I’ve always loved the WW2 vintage fighter planes

  • @ozzy6852
    @ozzy6852 3 дні тому

    I think you can hear the turbo in the beginning of the video. That’s so cool!

  • @KerboOnYT
    @KerboOnYT Рік тому +26

    I had the pleasure of seeing and hearing one of these beautiful aircraft up close at an air show one time. Amazing! Thanks for the video

  • @TrulyUnfortunate
    @TrulyUnfortunate 5 місяців тому +2

    Always loved the Corsair especially as a kid who watched Baa Baa Black Sheep.
    As I got older I learned about the difficulties the Corsair had with carrier landings.
    Still love the plane!!

  • @stargazeronesixseven
    @stargazeronesixseven 3 місяці тому +1

    😊🙏 The legendary WWII Pacific theatre Vought F4U Corsair " Whistling Death " ... Thank You So Much for making this beautifully edited & concised video for the fans & for sharing it! 🌷🌿🌍✌💜🕊

  • @ajaronis1
    @ajaronis1 Рік тому +14

    That flyby is amazing.

  • @mannygarcia759
    @mannygarcia759 5 місяців тому +1

    What a beautiful plane! We all talk about the P51, but this is such a great looking plane as well. So many amazing aircrafts from WWII!! The P47, P38, Bearcat and Wildcat just to name a few.

  • @turbodpv5908
    @turbodpv5908 3 місяці тому

    Love the sound of the R-2800 Double Wasp at idle. And the F4U is one of my favorite warbirds. I also love flying my RC model versions of them too, don't let them get too slow in the turns to approach for landing or they'll bite you, other than that they always astonish me.

  • @gabbyhayes4561
    @gabbyhayes4561 4 місяці тому

    The sound of an a round engine starting up sends chills up and down my spine. Always have loved that sound.🇺🇸😎

  • @user-bl6ne3hc6n
    @user-bl6ne3hc6n Місяць тому +2

    Ohhhh the sound of FREEDOM,

  • @simonboland
    @simonboland Місяць тому

    Saw one of these at air show at Reading airport, PA in 2015. Spectacular!

  • @PabloToscano
    @PabloToscano Рік тому +7

    Simply beautiful, the video almost take my mind away of what a deadly machine it is.

  • @timf2279
    @timf2279 5 місяців тому +2

    What a fantastic aircraft.

  • @sixxftundr
    @sixxftundr 4 місяці тому +1

    Damn, that thing is gorgeous!

  • @noncalamari
    @noncalamari Рік тому +7

    Amazing that they were able to put that big of a prop on that airframe.

    • @gmm6885
      @gmm6885 Рік тому +10

      Think the gull wing is how they got that big prop on them...😊

    • @johnarnold893
      @johnarnold893 9 місяців тому +2

      @@gmm6885 The Gull Wings was to make the landing gear shorter and stronger.

  • @michaelmartin5534
    @michaelmartin5534 4 місяці тому

    Nothing sounds as sexy as pistons and propellers. God bless Marines! 30 year Viper crew chief here, still love the sound of horsepower!

  • @rags417
    @rags417 6 місяців тому +1

    My dad used to fly a PzL-104 Wilga which also had a big radial engine, although nowhere near as powerful as the Pratt and Whitney R2800 on the Corsair. Every time we took her out I got the job of pulling the prop through 8-10 blades until the oil that had pooled in the lower cylinders had worked through the exhausts and started pouring out on the ground. Even then the start up was always loud and messy and we burned a lot of oil before it finally kicked in.

  • @Fredsbank78
    @Fredsbank78 10 місяців тому +4

    The low fly-by looks like what my dad said he did when he buzzed freight trains at night while getting flight hours in his Corsair in WWII…

  • @Burhanontheranch
    @Burhanontheranch 5 місяців тому +2

    That was pleasant and relaxing. Always will be a cool plane.

  • @mikewilliams4702
    @mikewilliams4702 6 місяців тому +1

    Best looking’ and one of the most fierce fighters of World War II” Loooooove these aircraft!!!!!💖💖💖💖🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼👍👍👍👍

  • @TrustyZ900
    @TrustyZ900 5 місяців тому +1

    One of the HOTRODS of WW2. Love it.

  • @davidlj53
    @davidlj53 9 місяців тому +2

    That’s a monster with wings! Love it!

  • @erikroberts3545
    @erikroberts3545 4 місяці тому

    The F4U Corsair is one of my favorite warbirds. This is amazing! ❤

  • @thor3279
    @thor3279 Рік тому +13

    i don't think any other aircraft has managed the astounding level of art and function that this airplane achieved. It looks alive, purposeful, magnificent. great video thank you for posting

  • @Office_De_Receiver_Complaints
    @Office_De_Receiver_Complaints Рік тому +11

    Pure grace in aeronautics.

  • @greghelms4458
    @greghelms4458 Рік тому +5

    Man I love those airplanes.

  • @LeonardCooperman
    @LeonardCooperman 5 місяців тому

    That’s so beautiful, my god to fly one in WW2, just amazing. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @robertfindley921
    @robertfindley921 5 місяців тому

    A thing of beauty. How in the world could anybody a give thumbs down to this video?!?!?

  • @sum12see
    @sum12see 6 місяців тому +2

    I always loved the Corsair...What an awesome fighter!! Pappy Boyington was a great aviator, with the Black Sheep squadron!

  • @Jonno2summit
    @Jonno2summit 5 місяців тому

    Best music video ever! Even better with headphones.

  • @andrewsquire9892
    @andrewsquire9892 10 місяців тому +2

    Sheer aviation beauty

  • @zhengsng6203
    @zhengsng6203 Місяць тому

    Imagine a carrier deck full of Corsairs and Hellcats startup together, revving the engine and take off one by one.. what a beautiful day.

  • @lawrenceneuenii3564
    @lawrenceneuenii3564 Рік тому +6

    Soo beautiful!!!

  • @Msflamingo-wl4qo
    @Msflamingo-wl4qo 2 місяці тому

    The beautiful Corsair is one of my favorites! ❤

  • @robroy9867
    @robroy9867 5 місяців тому

    They are awesome aircraft always liked them.

  • @70s80sVintage
    @70s80sVintage 4 місяці тому

    One of the most beautiful planes ever built.

  • @user-ym9yp3ci9p
    @user-ym9yp3ci9p 5 місяців тому +1

    The old man fought on Okinawa. He loved the Corsair!

  • @mikebunner3498
    @mikebunner3498 Рік тому +3

    What a great machine!!!! I love it..............

  • @justsavetheplace
    @justsavetheplace 2 місяці тому

    Beyond gorgeous.

  • @wfo0070925
    @wfo0070925 4 місяці тому

    To me, this is the F14 of WWII. Beautifully Majestic when on the Tarmac... Sinisterly Lethal in the Air.

  • @531c
    @531c 5 місяців тому

    Sounds so good. All the best from England chaps!

  • @user-hb4ed8ej1r
    @user-hb4ed8ej1r 3 місяці тому

    Awesome! No other word fits.

  • @LedufInfraLeDufiNFrA
    @LedufInfraLeDufiNFrA 3 місяці тому

    What a lovely plane❤

  • @ccacrislan
    @ccacrislan 3 роки тому +5

    that is my dream, right there...

  • @TBNTX
    @TBNTX 4 місяці тому +1

    My late Dad flew Corsairs from the carrier USS Bennington (CV-20). He bombed the IJN Hyuga, at Kure harbor in late July, 1945. His wingman (Jory Jorgensen) witnessed the bombing run.

  • @dallisb1047
    @dallisb1047 5 місяців тому

    Beautiful!! The sounds and the vibrations of a radial engine is thrilling!! O miss working on aircraft.

  • @dulcelima6150
    @dulcelima6150 5 місяців тому

    Radial sound vought f4u consair ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @pushing2throttles
    @pushing2throttles 3 роки тому +17

    Great aircraft but boy oh boy was it hard landing on the carriers!

    • @TheAviatorsTV
      @TheAviatorsTV  3 роки тому +5

      Aren't they all!

    • @Slithey7433
      @Slithey7433 Рік тому +1

      “Hose Nose”

    • @scrappydude1
      @scrappydude1 11 місяців тому

      Only before the strut issue was corrected and the Brits figured out the proper landing approach. After that it was no harder to land than anything else.

    • @thekingsilverado3266
      @thekingsilverado3266 10 місяців тому

      Go Pros were not made for Corsairs landing gear.

  • @stevp51
    @stevp51 4 місяці тому

    There wasn’t, nor has there ever been a more beautiful airplane

  • @KennyDodge-of2sp
    @KennyDodge-of2sp 6 місяців тому

    Wow,man it sounds great.that looks like Arnold's field between Big Sandy,and Camden,Tn.i looked every time but never saw a Corsair.
    It is a Beauty

  • @johnlockhart1272
    @johnlockhart1272 11 місяців тому +4

    Wow! That was so cool!

  • @dogsbyfire
    @dogsbyfire 5 місяців тому

    Beautifully shot and edited video

  • @Melody_Raventress
    @Melody_Raventress Рік тому +10

    The Corsair really does have a huge snozz, I can empathize.

  • @sylviass8295
    @sylviass8295 4 місяці тому

    absolute beauty

  • @wizerulz
    @wizerulz 5 місяців тому

    I love how the Tail starts to lift before the plane even takes off! The Corsair used the same basic engine as the P-47 Thunderbolt only the Corsair was supercharged ( crankshaft driven between the engine and the )cockpit and the Bolt was turbocharged

  • @Gatoronronero
    @Gatoronronero 4 місяці тому +1

    Algún día tendrá yo la oportunidad de volar uno se estos 😎

  • @Aminelido
    @Aminelido 3 роки тому +6

    The legend

  • @pappy017
    @pappy017 5 місяців тому

    how cool! Love the video!! Imagine being on the ground in the Philippines and seeing your flyin friends buzz over. Talk about a morale booster!

  • @PlymouthVT
    @PlymouthVT 5 місяців тому +1

    The sounds of WW2. Amazing.

  • @xfirehurican
    @xfirehurican 3 роки тому +2

    Pappy's 'Cactus Air Force' beast. Semper Fi!

  • @raystack6250
    @raystack6250 4 місяці тому

    One of the most.beauiful. prop planes.what a motor

  • @timmoffat3182
    @timmoffat3182 Рік тому +4

    If that doesn't give up goosebumps nothing will

  • @teufelhunden3606
    @teufelhunden3606 6 місяців тому

    Absolutely beautiful aircraft and the sound of a radial engine ❤

  • @davewallace8219
    @davewallace8219 10 місяців тому +5

    Magine. Being on a carrier...with a. Flight of these....warming up!

  • @DigbyOdel-et3xx
    @DigbyOdel-et3xx 5 місяців тому

    The coolest, bad a$$, toughest looking fighter plane of WWII and even beyond into the 50's. Love🥰 the F4U Corsair.🥰

  • @paulbailey2032
    @paulbailey2032 7 місяців тому

    Thank you Marine that I never heard that sound and that I’m around to hear that old Coursair crank up! Airedale Navy 4life

  • @bradshaeffer8122
    @bradshaeffer8122 10 місяців тому +1

    That is one beast of an aircraft

  • @user-gj5nw9vn3d
    @user-gj5nw9vn3d 5 місяців тому

    What a beautiful sound and sight !! Thanks.

  • @jeffhdpd782
    @jeffhdpd782 14 днів тому

    whistling death!!! love that plane. my favorite of ww2

  • @Brian-hd4rf
    @Brian-hd4rf 5 місяців тому

    Makes my heart race when it goes by low and fast.

  • @kevinpomerenke8115
    @kevinpomerenke8115 3 роки тому +13

    My favorite WWII fighter! Was 416 one of the planes used in Black Sheep Squadron tv show?

    • @kevinpomerenke8115
      @kevinpomerenke8115 3 роки тому +2

      @@johnklatt3522 thanks John

    • @Aaron-om4dw
      @Aaron-om4dw 3 роки тому +2

      That is one sexy lady. Whistling Death was a fitting name especially if it was after you

    • @kevinpomerenke8115
      @kevinpomerenke8115 3 роки тому +2

      @@johnklatt3522 thanks John

    • @ChizAfterHours
      @ChizAfterHours 2 роки тому +2

      Jim's Corsair here wasn't on the show. There is another F4U-4B that was in it which is still around. That one is 97359. Flew in Korea, Black Sheep Squadron TV, and was flown as #205 in the upcoming movie "Devotion" based off Adam Makos' book (Tom Hudner's plane). It flies under a new scheme now since it was reunited with a pilot who flew it in Korea. They painted it to look like as he flew it.

  • @dd-nv6sw
    @dd-nv6sw 5 місяців тому

    Just plain cool! 😎

  • @normanwyatt8761
    @normanwyatt8761 9 місяців тому

    My brother and I belonged to a boys model airplane club way back during w.w.2 in 1944 in Massachusetts........Every kind of warbird was built in that club, but the most popular model was the F-U-4 CORSAIR WITH THE GULL WINGS......NICE.....

  • @margaretbehler4935
    @margaretbehler4935 4 місяці тому

    Beautiful!!

  • @portnuefflyer
    @portnuefflyer 5 місяців тому

    I knew a former Marine pilot who had 2000 hrs of S Pacific combat flying (plus 50 years of crop dusting and 14 years of ranch Super Cub flying after the war), he once made an off hand comment about how once they were on short final, the entire carrier disappeared!

  • @damrgee8279
    @damrgee8279 2 місяці тому

    Incredible

  • @lindomarthomaz4873
    @lindomarthomaz4873 5 місяців тому

    Maravilhoso ouvir o som do motor de um war- bird veterano ainda em perfeito estado é muito bom parabens