"Ya got any durka durka durk????" Thats all i hear. "Well when ya gonna get one??? When do your shipments come in??? Can you order one???? Can ya put me on 'The List'?????" Yea i work gunstore. Pls shoot me.
@@armorers_wrench lol exactly what i am thinking. it's almost like this fractional reserve banking system isn't really worth it! people complaining about making money? i guess the money ain't worth a damn, huh?
@@armorers_wrench the Business is making money, i just don't wanna feel like laying in the highway at the end of the day. Facing this public is like fighting zombie hordes.
The biggest advantage I see to this is I don’t have to relearn anything, the feeling is the same, the controls are where I expect them to be and I know how to shoot my shield already. This feels like I get a free extra 5 rounds in a gun I’m already comfortable with, and it fits the holster I already have and like.
My ears thank you for the jacked volume during the first batch of shooting. 😐. I think I shit my pants and let out a chorus of swear words that scared the piss out of my cat.
This explains why I've been seeing (and actually bought one) all those S&W Shield bugout kits all over the place for like $460 (Shield 1.0 with five 8-round mags, carry bag and first-aid kit)
I seen one of these the other day. Even said to the guy behind the counter." That's actually a really fair deal. Anymore everyone wants the capacity of a 365 or 43x "
My first firearm purchase was the Shield 1.0 last month for $380. I was gonna go with a M&P 9 due to the larger capacity or the Glock 19 but I'm getting my CCW soon and I wanted something a wee smaller in frame and went with the Shield. I'm wondering if I should've waited now. lol I haven't shot my Shield yet either, need to find a place to go shooting here. All the ranges around me just doesn't sound ideal with some of their rules. But those 5 extra mags are an insanely good deal. I paid $35 for a extra 8-round mag.
@@jasonk3038 Quit assuming. I was talking about the rules due to covid are still rampant right now. Even the outdoor ranges here have mandatory masks still, when you're no closer than 10 feet from each other. I understand the need for that. However I don't wanna get sweeped by someone, or sweep someone myself because hot brass lands inside my mask. (Happened at a range not long ago and the dude sweeps and almost shot some poor brass boy cleaning up the casings.) Also ranges here are only allowing 1 box of 9mm right now due to shortages. Which is fine but 50 rounds is hardly worth while to PAY to use the range for 10 minutes. With all due respect I understand all of the above. I just wanna find a place to shoot outdoors away from people.
I’ve been looking at the Shield lineup for some time. I appreciate your straightforward, clear review - including the history, the market competition, and all the comparisons. Detailed, matter of fact, well presented. Thank you.
I'm sure out of over 2,000 comments, someone already mentioned this... the only thing I would like to have seen is a rail. I just got the optic ready bug out bundle and I'm so satisfied. Thank you for the review! We appreciate your time and humor.
I was pleasantly surprised with the TLR-6 I put on mine. 100 lumens, but I can see all the way across my dark basement with it. I think it’s adequate, far better than I thought.
I really appreciate this whole segment of the market. After handling most of the offerings, I picked the Shield Plus. It felt more substantial in my hand than the rest, even though it’s about the same size, and it is a pleasure to shoot.
The slide release isn’t meant to be used as such. It’s a slide lock that’s meant to be slingshotted. That being said, one can file down the internal slide catch lever ever so slightly - talking a few mm - to rectify that issue. I did that on my 1.0 and works like a charm. The new trigger on the Shield Plus, with the sure to be upgrade of an optic cut on a performance center, will make this gun worth it and then some.
@G Soap I have some guns that do that and some that don't. It's a coo feature tho. Wish all of them did it but yea I would've file any firearm. Chief make it a liability issue
@G Soap IDK I use the button as a stop and a release. I can see if some guns are old and springs are wore out it wouldn't throw slide hard enough to chamber a round but all modern handguns will function with the slide stop as a slide release. I do think the whole mag slap feature can be dangerous. I was shooting my grand power p40 which does it and it fired the first round!!! Granted I might of had my finger still on trigger but it did take me back a second. But yea I think over time most guns will eventually do it if it was designed to or not. If you think about it it could just be from the jarring of the handgun allowing the slide lock/release button to move out of the way.
I recently bought a second hand Shield Plus that had never been fired. The owner added Hogue grips and Truglow sights to it, then traded it in. I've put several hundred rounds through it and it is extremely accurate, reliable, and very fun to shoot. I will probably replace the Truglow sights with night sights. I highly recommend this gun to anyone interested in a very concealable compact firearm. I'm a longtime Glock boy but this is a great piece from S&W!
The sig p365 had a couple hiccups when it first came out, which led to a lot of people not bring able to trust Sig. Then there's the Springfield Hellcat, which holds one more round than the Sig but it's beloved by chuds who think XD's are legitimate firearms. And there's the Glock 48/43x, except you have to buy aftermarket mags for an arm and a leg. Smith and Wesson might actually bring something actually good from the get go. American made, with some pedigree from the CCW community.
@@JumCuggler Sure! Yeah at this point it's a meme lmao, for me personally it's not ideal. It's been said before, magazine feed lips can be damaged easily, the roll pins walk out after a couple thousand rounds, grip safety compromises the firearm if it goes out (which has been reported to do), made in Croatia. Not saying I wouldn't use it if it were my only choice, but for the money a Smith and Wesson M2.0 series is a way better value, priced similarly to a Springfield (and made in USA).
I have S&W 9mm Shield Plus. Installed a 3 5/8 inch True Precision Treaded Barrel. Better lockup, Stability and Accuracy. Also Hogue Grip. I also have a S&W Shield. I upgraded the Trigger and installed a 3 5/8 inch Faxon Barrel. Also Hogue Grip. Reliability no change. Very accurate .Shooting 12 ounces hanging beer cans 20 yard easy and at 40 yards Body size Targets. I don't need the PC 4 inch Shield Plus. I also Have a SD9VE. Installed Apex Trigger, Slide Bar and Slide Lock upgraded to Stainless Steel. No Malfunctions. I also have a Great Condition S&W M&P 40 Police Trade in. The police officer must have upgraded the Trigger Springs. Still has the Henge Trigger, But it shoots very well and the Trigger feels good. Bought a Gun Light for it.
Damnit! I wasnt planning to buy another new CCW gun but there it is, perfection. If they produce a Shield Plus XL (with a longer slide) I will buy one of each and CCW them both. I love it.
I just bought one with the bug out bag kit. Loved it!!! Best money on a gun I've ever spent. Mine is optics ready and came with night sights!!! Bug out bag had a first aid kit with 3, count em 3 thirteen round extended mags for a total of 5 mags!!! Showed it to my buddy and he ordered one from a gunstore on the spot! I carry the sig p365XL as my off duty carry but I think I'm gonna be switching it up here in a few days! Thanks for the info and great video bro!!! 😃👍
I absolutely love and respect Smith & Wesson as a manufacturer. Hopefully, if an M&P 3.0 series comes out, they will listen to their customer base and make the trigger like most other striker-fired handguns. The hinged trigger in my opinion isn't all that bad or unreliable as I've had no issues with it, but it's definitely a weird and unfavorable design.
The ruger Max 9 with the red dot slide cut and the day/night sights looks like a better buy. The trigger looks like it could be better on the S&W Plus. The Springfield Hellcat and the Sig 365 definitely have some solid competition now.
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 and it's about time lol I don't like Springfield pistols or the absolutely UNSAFE Sig 365. The Ruger Max 9 looks promising, and so does the S&W Shield Plus. I'm more in favor of the Smith, but that's just an old preference of mine. I haven't held or handled the Rugee Max-9 yet, but I have owned their LCP and even That was a comfortable pistol. I'm just excited we still have some innovative choices coming!
@@robl884 unsafe 365? I got it and the 365 xl safety is between your ears.......if you need a safety on a carry gun maybe you should leave it at home......
@@chevykent77 lol what a douchey comment. let people have a safety if they want one even if i dont like em who cares? and that Todd guy isnt even talkin about having a safety or not, hes talking bout the malfunctions that some p365 originally shipped with
It would be great to see that trigger carry over to the rest of the line for sure. If it does I will be buying lots of M&P's as I love them. This new Shield is definitely on my must purchase list.
If they start putting this Plus trigger in the whole M&P line, S&W will have the best offerings out there. I prefer M&Ps, but the older trigger has always been a letdown to many people. I don't mind it, but an Apex is always close behind for one. I don't feel the need for an Apex with the Shield Plus.
I wanted a new compact pistol, just bought a Sheild Plus and am impressed with it. I'm glad my local FFL talked me into spending the extra $50 for Sheild Plus over the standard Sheild.
@@MALICEM12 it’s got texturing on it. How is it not supposed to be a slide release you know? When I hear this cop out I immediately know it’s just a fact they didn’t want to mess with it so the nomenclature was changed to reflect the short coming.
The shield 2.0 is my favorite carry gun. I just crawled out of bed groggy Eyed to take my morning shit after reading the title I’m wide awake and pumped as ever! Eff yea!
I have one with the porting from the performance center and it's great. My wife's P365 suffered the typical trigger malfunction after 5 rounds, so head to head at 500 rounds the S&W is still running and the P365 is at about 100 rounds after coming back from Sig. I only use the 13 round mag. Only drawback is magazine availability and its great for people like me with hobbit size hands
I haven't met a person who had had an issue with their P365. Even at the fun shoot we had at our range with 17 people where about 12 had P365's (including me) and the only gun that broke was a G43x. My P365 FCU that was born about 1yr after the P365 release has 1000rds, and my recent P365 FCU that I got mid 2023 has 2000rds~.
3:26 That $553 MSRP is a little misleading: it's for the non-night sights version. With night sights the MSRP is $623. Since P365's all come with night sights, it should be compared with the higher priced Shield Plus :)
Pretty nice weapon but Ruger just released basically the same platform with a TFO front sight for $499.00. It will be interesting to see how many models in this class will be released this year.
To your point Stormy, at $499, the Ruger Max 9 includes the cut for a Micro Red Dot optic as a standard feature! Not an upgrade requiring more $$$ to be spent . Ruger really loaded it with features. Some nice new guns dropped today!!
Hey James: I really enjoy your gun review videos; they are the best on the Internet: detailed, comprehensive, and honest. I am in the market for a double stack, high capacity small subcompact 9mm carry pistol, and the Shield Plus is on the short list. Again, great gun review video, and I look forward to your future productions.
I've been carrying the P365 since 2018. I've had to send it in twice now for repairs in the last 4k or so rounds. I really like the M&P 2.0 compact that I have and I'm tempted to pick one of these up to carry.
Just ordered my copy. I've always loved the design of the Shield but came into the market when other options were available. This will likely go in the carry rotation if it is as reliable as the OG Shield, which it most certainly looks like it. This will take market share from Sig and SprIngfield for those of us who don't like being beta tested on nor like Croatian guns with no parts availability. Thankfully we have options. Bravo S&W!
The slide “release” is difficult bc it is not a release. It is a lock. If you look at manual the slide isn’t designed to be released by just popping that down but by going over and just racking it as you ended up doing naturally.
lol Carry guns are like cell phone they go one direction then you can go anymore so they go back..lets make guns as small as we can so its more comfortable then its like crap not enough rounds, ok lets go bigger again...I LOVE this idea but for me its either the shield or just go full since M&P....ahh screw it I want one!!!!!!
@@Chris-tw4jm Thats an opinion to one person its too small to another its too big, I get the industry is always trying to hit a sweet spot but you just cant have both, its large capacity or its easier to carry...Id go with shoot better and have a gun you will actually take everywhere lol...Its liker the age old caliber debate, there is NO wrong choices for guns only preferences and all gun guys should support each other to help the cause not constantly fight that the other guy picked a dumb gun...or carries it wrong...
@@cutlerylover max size to capacity efficiency is pure numbers. Shootability/do I like it? That's opinion. All other factors being equal, I'd take capacity. No reason to carry 6 rounds when you can have twice that in basically the same gun and make no sacrifices in reliability or shootability. Unless you live in a commie hellhole state haha
@@sauerkrautjr "make no sacrifices in reliability or shootability." Thats also up to opinion if you say X gun has 6 rounds but one just a tiny bit bigger holds 10 but one a tiny bit bigger than that holds 12 but one a tiny bit bogger than that holds 15 lol it never ends so I guess the best answer really is carry the biggest guin you shoot well and are comfortable carrying everywhere everyday...Capacity doesnt matter at all if you can shoot well, spare mag is a must IMO since most malfunctions are mag related and not the gun I dont mind my Glock 43 with 6 rounds since I carry a spare mag statistics show if im ever even in a situation where I need my gun 6 is spent if its not I have more available, I also carry condition 3 and some people will laugh at that but all these years later its never been a problem haha I dont live in the ghetto and Id probably win the lottery 5 tiems before I have to oull my gun and if I do pull my gun its morte likely going to be for a black bear or wild cat than a crackhead with a weapon or specialty trained ops guy who wants to kill me for some reason and has way more gun skills than I do...
@Great White exactly, the 365 is smaller than a single stack 9 or two (and not just Hi-Points). Very little of this is opinion--just straight numbers. People just want to make excuses to justify their choices.
i have the new Smith & Wesson Shield and its an awesome gun to shoot at the range. i love the recoil of it almost feels like you are shooting a much bigger caliber.
I had a shield 1.0 for a while and it was OK. I checked out the 2.0 and felt that the grip stippling was a little too aggressive for me and it still only held 8 rounds. Being a sig guy, when the p365 came out, I was excited. I eventually got one after they worked the bugs out and instantly fell in love with it. Now I've added the xl grip module which I believe is far better than the standard grip module plus it has a 12 round flush fit magazine. It shoots even better now and fits my hand perfectly. The shield is a great gun and it looks like they improved it drastically. I'll have to tell my brother in law about it because he loves his shield. Thanks for the review
I don’t know if it’s unusual, but the small weight & size advantage of the p365 makes a huge difference on whether I carry or not. I love my Shield but I only carried it occasionally. Since the p365 arrived, I carry every day. Maybe other people have a kind of “hard” weight threshold that determines if they actually EDC too?
I prefer the Sig P365 as a CCW, but still carry my S&W 1911 SC Roundtail 45ACP as my other CCW, weight of a full-size 1911/43 ounces vs 29 for my LW makes the 1911 Gov’t my nightstand gun
Meanwhile Taurus is making the G3C TORO with 3, 12 rounds magazines straight out of the box standard. Other companies need to step their mag game up if they want to truly compete for my money with their optic ready handguns.
Thank you, I was just about to comment that... Funny how he'll review anything and everything in a specific category EXCEPT a Taurus. Almost like he's actively trying not to like em.😐
Did he really leave out Taurus?! &&& Just to say, Frank.... I sent my P365 back for warranty work 3 times! That Taurus is up over 4K rnds and has never had anything but a cleaning. People are sleeping on Taurus!
@Frank Bonazza III I’ve had jams in my 365 and my M&P, never in my G2C. I’d put it against those pistols for reliability any day of the week. Take the Pepsi challenge.
Just bought the new M&P 9 shield plus, I think it came out in late 2021 going into 2022 and let me say it is the best 9mm I’ve ever shot hands down! I highly recommend it for entry- intermediate shooters! I have a $1500 dollar pistol at home (not gonna name any names) and the M&P’s trigger is hands down way smoother and breaks way better than it.
I bought the P3 65 as the 365 XL‘s were coming into the gun shop delivery door. I went back in the next day to get the extended mag and a holster and after putting my hands on the XL wish I would’ve gotten the P3 65 XL because it was just a little larger and ideal to fit my hands. However I love my P3 65 it’s my favorite gun to shoot I shoot competition with what I carry and I carry every day because it’s The perfect size gun to keep on my hip all day long and doesn’t weigh me down
I own a 1.0 .40S&W full size M&P. I use it often with a KKM 9mm converted barrel. It came with factory 3 dot night sights. I may sell it & get a 2.0 model with no ambi safety.
That's why I love my 2.0 Subcompact. I can use 10 round, 12 round, 15 round and 17 round OEM mags. Yeah it's a little wider but you can't beat the versatility. Regardless.. I'm still picking up a Shield plus lol
Yeah, I like my shield but the 365 is still going to be optimal in comparison. Especially in the XL model. Cleanest trigger in a micro 9 you're ever going to find, rail setup for a weapon light and has the setup for a red dot as well. Extended magazine 15 + 1 and it still fits completely in my hand. The hellcat is garbage. Way too much side to side play in the trigger. Barely too much lateral pressure will render it dead. They cheaped out on the metal way more than Sig even did with the original 365 that had the primer scrape issue. It's an expensive paperweight. The Glock works fine but still can't compete and can't even properly be considered a micro nine or really even a subcompact. It's too big for that. Fact is Glock just doesn't care about micro pistols.
Great Video, as always!! I bought the Shield PLUS Optics Ready with night sights for the new lower retail price of $449. I added a SwampFox Sentinel Red Dot and a TLR-6 Light/Laser combo. Although the trigger is good; it did get better with a break-in.
I just bought this firearm. Took it to the range. Outstanding. I have the crimson trace on it. I’ve had the gen 1 for years. The plus is easier to grip, easier trigger pull. Love it
I've said it since the P365 and I'll say it again... When will companies apply this same magazine technology to mid and full size guns? I can't be the only one who wants to see a gun like a Glock 19 holding 22 rounds in a flush fit magazine am I?
Because at some point you would need a double and a half stack or a tri-stack magazine, and once you get beyond double stack the reliability generally takes a hit (and your width would increase as well).
@@Murphy82nd Well there were several prominent sub gun magazine designs that solved that. But also, just look at Shield Arms with the G43X and G48 magazines. For a Glock in particular, removing the polymer shell around the mag changes a lot. But I'm not specifically talking just Glocks. I'd also like to see Micro Compact .45's, .40's and 10mm's. Perhaps this new revolution of magazines could even revive the .45 GAP cartridge if done right.
It is the same double-stack as G19, just thinner mag walls (steel, not plastic) and narrow mag well. So with the same mag tech, you get G48 with that 15rd aftermarket mag, not "22 rds". 2.5 stack, double-feed mags are possible, but nobody makes them. Would give you about 3 extra rounds compared to G19, but nobody makes pistols like that. Double-feed mag alone gives 1 or 2 extra rounds, see GSh-18 for example.
You dont need to be a bullet hose. Battles are won with aimed fire. 🎯 I tote a 12rd Glock gen 5 9mm 26 at work. I tote a 17rd Magpul magazine as a spare.
@@DavidLLambertmobile Oh you're one of those "If ya can't do it with 7 then you shouldn't try at all!" kinda guys I see. It's not about need vs desire. Besides, the military applications are quite significant for something like that.
7:40 HEADPHONE WARNING! He goes from talking very silent to instantly switching to the sound of gunfire and it's loud AF, if you are wearing headphones beware!
Just picked up a shield plus on an easter special. Came with optic cut, night sights and 5 magazines + a bugout "bag" (more like a satchel or man purse) and a med kit, PLUS a $50 rebate. Got all that for only 600, after rebate that's 550. I got mine at my local gun shop but online you can find em for 580 I think, but after shipping and ffl transfer fee's you'll pay about what I did but damn 3 extra magazines, night sights, $50 rebate, the med kit/bag combo, killer deal I couldn't pass up
Finally ordered one of these to be my new carry gun. Found one that's exactly what I wanted. Optics Ready, Night Sights, no thumb safety and a hell of a deal at $470. Any holster recommendations? I had an IWB Crossbreed Supertuck for my CZ 2075 that's been my carry for a long time, but I've never found it comfortable, especially when sitting. I'd prefer it to be somewhere likely on the right side anywhere from 1 to 4 o'clock, but needs to be comfortable sitting and more secure than a ComfortTac (have one and like it for comfort, but doesn't seem secure in a fighting or running situation.
I have the Hellcat and love it, but Smith & Wesson has some of the best feeling grips in handguns with their M&P's and Shields, so this one probably feels great in the hands. I haven't seen one IRL yet though.
I've loved this handgun the whole time I've owned/carried it. This, the Equalizer, and my P365s (Reg, XL & Macro) are what I carry in my rotation, all of which are comfortable to the point that I most times don't even know they're there.
@@samuelmedina8884 They have them in stock at Nagel's Gun Store and Northwest Armory. NW's price is the best if you wanna snag one cheap-ish. Google both of those places.
Found my upgrade! Lol I still pack the 1.0 and love it but the capacity is lacking and have recently been wanting an optic. What a perfect coincidence! Lol.
I'm not knocking this in the least bit by saying this, I love S&W, and have actually owned a shield that I loved, but I'm good with my Gen 5 Glock 26. I carry 11 rounds with stock mag with an added pinky extention purely for grip, but if I want I can either add +2 extentions on the stock mags, or even better just carry any of the larger capacity double stack mags. I picked mine up last year with Ameriglo night sights and it was about $600. Ambi slide release, smooth trigger with a great improvement over the earlier generations, and marksman barrel. I'm more than happy with it and it hides away on my waist line just beautifully. That being said, If I didn't have it, and wanted a compact double stack, this new Shield would definitely be top of my list and I hope to get to shoot one now that I see this. I love all of these amazing new higher capacity tiny nines. It's an exciting time to be a gun guy 😂.
the max-9 being based on the security-9 is a smart move and simplifys logistics; on the dark side...the lcp, lcp2, lc9, lc380, lc9s, lc9s pro, ec9s, security-9, and max-9 all share the same aluminum chassis pinned inside a polymer frame shell; Kel-Tec developed it & under heavy recoil loads the pins can start walking out (especially the micro models -- lcp & lcp2); Skky also uses the same build architecture and there are reports of pins walking... I never had pins walking on any of the S&W polymer framed pistols I have owned on & off over the years (bodyguard 380 x 2, sd9ve x3, shield 1.0 x 3, sd40ve x1, sw9ve x 1, sd9 x 1, m&p 9 2.0 long slide x 1, m&p 9 1.0 compact x 1, and m&p 40 1.0 x 1)...I still have one of my shield 9's and it isn't going anywhere
I have a Shield 1.0 with Apex trigger kit, and I have put off upgrading for a long time because I didn't want different holsters etc. I shoot mine pretty well, but now I really want a Shield plus. I will have to get more extra mags (have like 6 for the Shield) but it's a small thing to do in order to get a much better gun.
I was a big Kimber fan, with my micro 9 Raptor having corrosion problems I looked at S&W. I looked at many 9mm carry guns and fell in love with the 3.1 Shield plus PC ported version. And the price made this purchase a no brainer.
@@IamShrimple the PPQ/P99 platform is darn near perfect, ngl. Because the changes are so incremental (and because... German engineering) I don't expect the PDP to have the kind of issues a lot of new models have (SIG cough cough)
I love german guns handguns lol i had a hk usp 40 for my first handgun traded it a walther pps 9mm cause i got my ltc and this little tiny walther pps shoots fucking amazing nice groups at 10 to 12 yards really accurate ill always prefer german handguns over others
@@Armymi33 all true, but apples and oranges. The PDP is still a full-sized handgun. If Walther had a high-capacity micro-compact, it would be a different story and I would buy the crap out of it if it offered something my current micro didn't.
I just got the Shield Plus Performance Center 4” ported barrel and slide! I Love it. I got it as a back-up carry to my older full size M&P .40. (I put night sights and an Apex trigger on that one).
I just got a new-used Shield 9 plus- optics ready. I do not have an optic yet. But this is better than the Ruger Security 9-compact. The trigger is great!
I got around this by adding MagGuts followers, springs and base plates to my (original) M&P Shield 9. Adds 1/8" to the flush & extended mags - which actually helps. Here in NYS we serfs are limited to 10 rounds; so that got me to the top limit with the extended magazine. LOVE the pistol. Though I like the concept of the new flat trigger (haven't tried one) on the Plus. The original isn't bad in use. Still my EDC choice.
This makes me inexplicably happy. Been carrying the og shield for years. Never been a big fan of how small the 365 was and it’s curved grip. I’ve always found the shield to be the perfect sweet spot. Can not wait to get my hands on an optics ready shield plus!
True, but I personally don't care for the too long harder to conceal grip of the P365 and like the fatter feel of the Plus grip with my big hands. Nicer mag release on the Plus also.
I just purchased the Shield Plus Performance Center model, not the optics ready version. Haven't fired it yet but looking forward to it. I've been carrying either my Shield 9 M2.0 or MP Compact 9c M2.0 and I LOVE being able to have 14 rounds at the ready, or 10 + 1 with a 13 round reload at the size and convenience to carry the same as my Shield M2.0. SO far the ONLY draw back for me is I can't find any magazines to buy extras and on the forums heard them referred to as unobtanium. Hopefully magazines will soon be made available!!! Like you I definitely like the black magazines much better than the plane steel shield mags!!! I liked your video! Subscribed and liked!
I guess he would call me a shield fan boy. I’ve been carrying the shield for two or three years now. But with my elderly eyes, I am looking at getting an optic. I was considering having my existing gun cut for an optic, but when I looked at the new shield plus, with the increase capacity and not having to have somebody mill my gun down, I decided that the new shield plus with the optics cut is gonna be the right gun for me. I’ll be sticking the house in 507 with the ACSS retical on top. Thanks for the informative review.
As a dealer for S&W, Ruger, ect ect. Tomorrow is going to be hell.
"Ya got any durka durka durk????" Thats all i hear. "Well when ya gonna get one??? When do your shipments come in??? Can you order one???? Can ya put me on 'The List'?????" Yea i work gunstore. Pls shoot me.
@@relevation0 Just means you're making money. Be happy. Most other industries are in a huge slump right now.
@@armorers_wrench lol exactly what i am thinking. it's almost like this fractional reserve banking system isn't really worth it! people complaining about making money? i guess the money ain't worth a damn, huh?
@@armorers_wrench the Business is making money, i just don't wanna feel like laying in the highway at the end of the day. Facing this public is like fighting zombie hordes.
@@relevation0 just filter people out by their voter registration cards. No lefties allowed. Problem: solved.
S&W will sell out instantly if they release that trigger body for sale.
I will definitely buy.
My apex is in transit for my M&P
@@enfuegosevensevenfour6220 will it work on the new m&p shield plus or you got out for the old m&p shield
@@johnsmith-ds6mo old m&p9c
I’d buy the 4” version in a heartbeat!
James: I want a low angle shot that forces the viewer to look at my taint.
verbatim statement I made to Ryan
The original “Goat”
That's the new improved "Taint Cam".....
@@tfbtv weird flex buddy
Now i'm blind.
The biggest advantage I see to this is I don’t have to relearn anything, the feeling is the same, the controls are where I expect them to be and I know how to shoot my shield already. This feels like I get a free extra 5 rounds in a gun I’m already comfortable with, and it fits the holster I already have and like.
''No step on snek'' in comic sans. That is gold.
Haha Seen that too and really enjoyed it, might have to emulate that on a future holster.
I have that on my glock slide plate. I love it lol
Ancient normie memes are epic style xd
My ears thank you for the jacked volume during the first batch of shooting. 😐. I think I shit my pants and let out a chorus of swear words that scared the piss out of my cat.
Right my fricken ear is bleeding
@@dee.snuts88 yo
Came to the comments to see if anyone else got ear effed like i did haha
@@bourbonator1873 ever been ear F Ed before?
I was washing dishes, wasn't watching, just listening... I dropped my plates... 😐
“It was like bowflex for your finger.”
Love it. That’s some Oscar Wylde-like wordplay right there.
This explains why I've been seeing (and actually bought one) all those S&W Shield bugout kits all over the place for like $460 (Shield 1.0 with five 8-round mags, carry bag and first-aid kit)
I seen one of these the other day. Even said to the guy behind the counter." That's actually a really fair deal. Anymore everyone wants the capacity of a 365 or 43x "
My first firearm purchase was the Shield 1.0 last month for $380. I was gonna go with a M&P 9 due to the larger capacity or the Glock 19 but I'm getting my CCW soon and I wanted something a wee smaller in frame and went with the Shield.
I'm wondering if I should've waited now. lol I haven't shot my Shield yet either, need to find a place to go shooting here. All the ranges around me just doesn't sound ideal with some of their rules. But those 5 extra mags are an insanely good deal. I paid $35 for a extra 8-round mag.
@@tylerangle2269 Range rules are there for a reason, Bub
I’ve had the 1.0 and carry it daily I paid $230
I will get the plus soon
@@jasonk3038 Quit assuming. I was talking about the rules due to covid are still rampant right now. Even the outdoor ranges here have mandatory masks still, when you're no closer than 10 feet from each other. I understand the need for that. However I don't wanna get sweeped by someone, or sweep someone myself because hot brass lands inside my mask. (Happened at a range not long ago and the dude sweeps and almost shot some poor brass boy cleaning up the casings.) Also ranges here are only allowing 1 box of 9mm right now due to shortages. Which is fine but 50 rounds is hardly worth while to PAY to use the range for 10 minutes.
With all due respect I understand all of the above. I just wanna find a place to shoot outdoors away from people.
I’ve been looking at the Shield lineup for some time. I appreciate your straightforward, clear review - including the history, the market competition, and all the comparisons. Detailed, matter of fact, well presented. Thank you.
I'm sure out of over 2,000 comments, someone already mentioned this...
the only thing I would like to have seen is a rail.
I just got the optic ready bug out bundle and I'm so satisfied.
Thank you for the review!
We appreciate your time and humor.
I was pleasantly surprised with the TLR-6 I put on mine. 100 lumens, but I can see all the way across my dark basement with it. I think it’s adequate, far better than I thought.
@@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 How did you mount it without a rail?
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 either by frame or recover tactical rail
Love the Bowflex for your index finger comparison!
Super Hyped for this. The optics ready long slide is right up my alley with the new trigger.
Am I the only one who wants to see James make a video in which he just talks about Bond?
Give me bond + the guns of James bond (YES INCLUDING THE CAICO) and I'm gonna headbutt the like button
Sit tight, gents. Sit tight.
I will watch this video every day when it comes out.
When he was comparing the 2 guns with the 2 I laughed 😅
Team Diamond Dave
Team Pierce Brosnan haha but Connery is the GOAT then Moore
Glad to see another Bull Moose. How are you brother?
I love my Shield Plus. After 1000 rounds the slide release as been in my comfort zone. Takes a little breaking inn!! Love the Plus
I really appreciate this whole segment of the market. After handling most of the offerings, I picked the Shield Plus. It felt more substantial in my hand than the rest, even though it’s about the same size, and it is a pleasure to shoot.
you said Padme is better than Leia. I need to scroll this comment section in a couple of days and see how fast that that shit his the fan lmao
@@f308gtb1977 Carrie Fisher as a slave girl to Jabba.
The gift that never stopped giving if you were a young man in those days.
nothing will ever beat slave Leia
Slave Leia for the spank bank
@@omardaniel1 agreed!!!
triggered you so hard you stutter typed
The slide release isn’t meant to be used as such. It’s a slide lock that’s meant to be slingshotted. That being said, one can file down the internal slide catch lever ever so slightly - talking a few mm - to rectify that issue. I did that on my 1.0 and works like a charm. The new trigger on the Shield Plus, with the sure to be upgrade of an optic cut on a performance center, will make this gun worth it and then some.
My slide stop turned into a slide release after 5k rounds and 4 years of consistent carry and training. Didn’t need to file anything down on my 1.0
You could always replace rear sight with an rmr plate on these ❤
@G Soap I have some guns that do that and some that don't. It's a coo feature tho. Wish all of them did it but yea I would've file any firearm. Chief make it a liability issue
@G Soap IDK I use the button as a stop and a release. I can see if some guns are old and springs are wore out it wouldn't throw slide hard enough to chamber a round but all modern handguns will function with the slide stop as a slide release. I do think the whole mag slap feature can be dangerous. I was shooting my grand power p40 which does it and it fired the first round!!! Granted I might of had my finger still on trigger but it did take me back a second. But yea I think over time most guns will eventually do it if it was designed to or not. If you think about it it could just be from the jarring of the handgun allowing the slide lock/release button to move out of the way.
@G Soap haha my 1st gun was a s&w and thought it was the normal way to do things .
I recently bought a second hand Shield Plus that had never been fired. The owner added Hogue grips and Truglow sights to it, then traded it in. I've put several hundred rounds through it and it is extremely accurate, reliable, and very fun to shoot. I will probably replace the Truglow sights with night sights. I highly recommend this gun to anyone interested in a very concealable compact firearm. I'm a longtime Glock boy but this is a great piece from S&W!
The fact that it fits the same holsters is pretty excellent
Shield footprint but more rounds!? Plus a decent price? S&W smacked this one out of the park 👍
Anyone else loving that "No step on snek" holster?
Bruh. That's my cover photo on FB lol
Was looking for this comment and yes
Any idea what brand the holster is?
The sig p365 had a couple hiccups when it first came out, which led to a lot of people not bring able to trust Sig. Then there's the Springfield Hellcat, which holds one more round than the Sig but it's beloved by chuds who think XD's are legitimate firearms. And there's the Glock 48/43x, except you have to buy aftermarket mags for an arm and a leg.
Smith and Wesson might actually bring something actually good from the get go. American made, with some pedigree from the CCW community.
I know it's a meme, but what's wrong with the XD platform?
@@JumCuggler Sure! Yeah at this point it's a meme lmao, for me personally it's not ideal. It's been said before, magazine feed lips can be damaged easily, the roll pins walk out after a couple thousand rounds, grip safety compromises the firearm if it goes out (which has been reported to do), made in Croatia. Not saying I wouldn't use it if it were my only choice, but for the money a Smith and Wesson M2.0 series is a way better value, priced similarly to a Springfield (and made in USA).
@@MuhTwo SA is so much worse than that.
@@briantouchette6182 I know lmao
@@MuhTwo no grip safety on the Hellcat
I have S&W 9mm Shield Plus. Installed a 3 5/8 inch True Precision Treaded Barrel. Better lockup, Stability and Accuracy. Also Hogue Grip. I also have a S&W Shield. I upgraded the Trigger and installed a 3 5/8 inch Faxon Barrel. Also Hogue Grip. Reliability no change. Very accurate .Shooting 12 ounces hanging beer cans 20 yard easy and at 40 yards Body size Targets. I don't need the PC 4 inch Shield Plus. I also Have a SD9VE. Installed Apex Trigger, Slide Bar and Slide Lock upgraded to Stainless Steel. No Malfunctions. I also have a Great Condition S&W M&P 40 Police Trade in. The police officer must have upgraded the Trigger Springs. Still has the Henge Trigger, But it shoots very well and the Trigger feels good. Bought a Gun Light for it.
Just upgraded and passed my 1.0 along to my grand daughter. I find the plus to be the perfect carry gun for me.
Just watched Colion's video about the new Ruger pistol. Then James tells us about the new Smith. Guys I only have so much money in my stimulus check.
I'm broke ...
Don't worry they'll be sold out and banned by the 31st
Just watched his Ruger video too!
@@bev8200 especially if "Alright, Alright, Alright" is elected governor in my state.
@@richki.24
Sorry you're broke bro.
I’m still carrying my old shield. Love it.
Me too!
I love mine, too...except for the slide release issue.
I can’t kill mine. Thing just keeps on running.
Damnit! I wasnt planning to buy another new CCW gun but there it is, perfection. If they produce a Shield Plus XL (with a longer slide) I will buy one of each and CCW them both. I love it.
It actually already exists. You can configure it on Smith's site. It's a Performance Center version (4" barrel).
I just bought one with the bug out bag kit. Loved it!!! Best money on a gun I've ever spent. Mine is optics ready and came with night sights!!! Bug out bag had a first aid kit with 3, count em 3 thirteen round extended mags for a total of 5 mags!!! Showed it to my buddy and he ordered one from a gunstore on the spot! I carry the sig p365XL as my off duty carry but I think I'm gonna be switching it up here in a few days! Thanks for the info and great video bro!!!
😃👍
I absolutely love and respect Smith & Wesson as a manufacturer. Hopefully, if an M&P 3.0 series comes out, they will listen to their customer base and make the trigger like most other striker-fired handguns. The hinged trigger in my opinion isn't all that bad or unreliable as I've had no issues with it, but it's definitely a weird and unfavorable design.
3:25 now that's a great shot, really shows off the balance of the pistol.
Just in time to compete with the new Ruger MAX-9!
And here comes S&W with the steel chair!
The ruger Max 9 with the red dot slide cut and the day/night sights looks like a better buy. The trigger looks like it could be better on the S&W Plus. The Springfield Hellcat and the Sig 365 definitely have some solid competition now.
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 and it's about time lol I don't like Springfield pistols or the absolutely UNSAFE Sig 365. The Ruger Max 9 looks promising, and so does the S&W Shield Plus. I'm more in favor of the Smith, but that's just an old preference of mine. I haven't held or handled the Rugee Max-9 yet, but I have owned their LCP and even That was a comfortable pistol. I'm just excited we still have some innovative choices coming!
@@robl884 unsafe 365? I got it and the 365 xl safety is between your ears.......if you need a safety on a carry gun maybe you should leave it at home......
@@chevykent77 lol what a douchey comment. let people have a safety if they want one even if i dont like em who cares? and that Todd guy isnt even talkin about having a safety or not, hes talking bout the malfunctions that some p365 originally shipped with
It would be great to see that trigger carry over to the rest of the line for sure. If it does I will be buying lots of M&P's as I love them. This new Shield is definitely on my must purchase list.
If they start putting this Plus trigger in the whole M&P line, S&W will have the best offerings out there. I prefer M&Ps, but the older trigger has always been a letdown to many people. I don't mind it, but an Apex is always close behind for one. I don't feel the need for an Apex with the Shield Plus.
I wanted a new compact pistol, just bought a Sheild Plus and am impressed with it. I'm glad my local FFL talked me into spending the extra $50 for Sheild Plus over the standard Sheild.
Mine came with CT red dot, trijicon tritium sights and flat face trigger. S&W 50 rebate ....paid 380 at Dunham's last week.
Soon we will have 20 round micro pistol.
single stack
Can’t wait
Ha , case less 9 mil
Yeah, but in 22 LR.
Glock 43 x with shield aftermarket mags 15 and 20
I’ve had customers specifically ask for the display gun when buying because of that damn slide release.
Same here lol
Yeah screw S&W with the whole "it's a slide stop not a slide release" thing, it should do both.
I’d like to hope mine got better over time. More likely that I just got more used to it.
@@MALICEM12 That actually sounds like a pretty good opportunity if one were an aftermarket mfg. Hmm...
@@MALICEM12 it’s got texturing on it. How is it not supposed to be a slide release you know? When I hear this cop out I immediately know it’s just a fact they didn’t want to mess with it so the nomenclature was changed to reflect the short coming.
Well, I know where my stimmy is going now.
Great minds think alike 😂😂
Afraid mine might too😄!
Yup lol
The shield 2.0 is my favorite carry gun. I just crawled out of bed groggy Eyed to take my morning shit after reading the title I’m wide awake and pumped as ever! Eff yea!
Same....like i was gonna get one anyways but...still
The Shield as been my CCW for years. Love that little gun, and can’t wait to get my hands on this one.
I just got the Shield Plus with a bronze slide, optics ready, w/night sights. Love it!
thanks
Thx
Whatever guy
@@PepeDeezNutz don't call him guy, buddy
@@bcs436 I'm not your buddy, guy
@IlIlIlIlIlIlIlIIIlll I'm not your friend, guy
Nope, couldn’t do the broadcast without saying Glock. Love the show, just have a running bet with a buddy. So far I’m down 17 to 0.
Thank you, very informative. The "no step on snek" holster is great!
I have one with the porting from the performance center and it's great. My wife's P365 suffered the typical trigger malfunction after 5 rounds, so head to head at 500 rounds the S&W is still running and the P365 is at about 100 rounds after coming back from Sig. I only use the 13 round mag. Only drawback is magazine availability and its great for people like me with hobbit size hands
I haven't met a person who had had an issue with their P365. Even at the fun shoot we had at our range with 17 people where about 12 had P365's (including me) and the only gun that broke was a G43x.
My P365 FCU that was born about 1yr after the P365 release has 1000rds, and my recent P365 FCU that I got mid 2023 has 2000rds~.
When I contacted Sig they said they had many of the early P365's come back in May 2022 when we sent ours in @@Osprey1994
I still carry the OG shield 12 years strong. Still love it like when I first got it in day 1.
3:26 That $553 MSRP is a little misleading: it's for the non-night sights version. With night sights the MSRP is $623. Since P365's all come with night sights, it should be compared with the higher priced Shield Plus :)
The new ruger has tritium sight and optic ready
@@slipps_mwb9478 Yup, value-wise MAX-9 is the king, can't be beat :)
Pretty nice weapon but Ruger just released basically the same platform with a TFO front sight for $499.00. It will be interesting to see how many models in this class will be released this year.
What did ruger release? What’s it’s called. I can’t find anything new online
Max 9 I found it. Hadn’t heard anything about it to this point
To your point Stormy, at $499, the Ruger Max 9 includes the cut for a Micro Red Dot optic as a standard feature! Not an upgrade requiring more $$$ to be spent . Ruger really loaded it with features. Some nice new guns dropped today!!
@@ArmedPolite Max 9 there are already a bunch of reviews on it.
Yes but why did they have to go putting a slide safety on it, sheesh. Also ruger finish's rust on their auto pistols and thats not with neglect.
RIP to my ear drums 7:43
Yep
Caught this just before, thank you
I know right! A phone would record audio better than what they used on this video lol.
Hey James: I really enjoy your gun review videos; they are the best on the Internet: detailed, comprehensive, and honest. I am in the market for a double stack, high capacity small subcompact 9mm carry pistol, and the Shield Plus is on the short list. Again, great gun review video, and I look forward to your future productions.
I've been carrying the P365 since 2018. I've had to send it in twice now for repairs in the last 4k or so rounds. I really like the M&P 2.0 compact that I have and I'm tempted to pick one of these up to carry.
Have you been getting pin drag at all? Mine has had lots of problems and it's tainted my view of SIG.
Just ordered my copy. I've always loved the design of the Shield but came into the market when other options were available.
This will likely go in the carry rotation if it is as reliable as the OG Shield, which it most certainly looks like it.
This will take market share from Sig and SprIngfield for those of us who don't like being beta tested on nor like Croatian guns with no parts availability. Thankfully we have options.
Bravo S&W!
The slide “release” is difficult bc it is not a release. It is a lock. If you look at manual the slide isn’t designed to be released by just popping that down but by going over and just racking it as you ended up doing naturally.
lol Carry guns are like cell phone they go one direction then you can go anymore so they go back..lets make guns as small as we can so its more comfortable then its like crap not enough rounds, ok lets go bigger again...I LOVE this idea but for me its either the shield or just go full since M&P....ahh screw it I want one!!!!!!
Not quite. The whole point of this sector of guns is that they’re tiny AND have a great capacity. Win win
@@Chris-tw4jm Thats an opinion to one person its too small to another its too big, I get the industry is always trying to hit a sweet spot but you just cant have both, its large capacity or its easier to carry...Id go with shoot better and have a gun you will actually take everywhere lol...Its liker the age old caliber debate, there is NO wrong choices for guns only preferences and all gun guys should support each other to help the cause not constantly fight that the other guy picked a dumb gun...or carries it wrong...
@@cutlerylover max size to capacity efficiency is pure numbers. Shootability/do I like it? That's opinion. All other factors being equal, I'd take capacity. No reason to carry 6 rounds when you can have twice that in basically the same gun and make no sacrifices in reliability or shootability. Unless you live in a commie hellhole state haha
@@sauerkrautjr "make no sacrifices in reliability or shootability." Thats also up to opinion if you say X gun has 6 rounds but one just a tiny bit bigger holds 10 but one a tiny bit bigger than that holds 12 but one a tiny bit bogger than that holds 15 lol it never ends so I guess the best answer really is carry the biggest guin you shoot well and are comfortable carrying everywhere everyday...Capacity doesnt matter at all if you can shoot well, spare mag is a must IMO since most malfunctions are mag related and not the gun I dont mind my Glock 43 with 6 rounds since I carry a spare mag statistics show if im ever even in a situation where I need my gun 6 is spent if its not I have more available, I also carry condition 3 and some people will laugh at that but all these years later its never been a problem haha I dont live in the ghetto and Id probably win the lottery 5 tiems before I have to oull my gun and if I do pull my gun its morte likely going to be for a black bear or wild cat than a crackhead with a weapon or specialty trained ops guy who wants to kill me for some reason and has way more gun skills than I do...
@Great White exactly, the 365 is smaller than a single stack 9 or two (and not just Hi-Points). Very little of this is opinion--just straight numbers. People just want to make excuses to justify their choices.
i have the new Smith & Wesson Shield and its an awesome gun to shoot at the range.
i love the recoil of it almost feels like you are shooting a much bigger caliber.
I had a shield 1.0 for a while and it was OK. I checked out the 2.0 and felt that the grip stippling was a little too aggressive for me and it still only held 8 rounds. Being a sig guy, when the p365 came out, I was excited. I eventually got one after they worked the bugs out and instantly fell in love with it. Now I've added the xl grip module which I believe is far better than the standard grip module plus it has a 12 round flush fit magazine. It shoots even better now and fits my hand perfectly. The shield is a great gun and it looks like they improved it drastically. I'll have to tell my brother in law about it because he loves his shield. Thanks for the review
I don’t know if it’s unusual, but the small weight & size advantage of the p365 makes a huge difference on whether I carry or not. I love my Shield but I only carried it occasionally. Since the p365 arrived, I carry every day.
Maybe other people have a kind of “hard” weight threshold that determines if they actually EDC too?
I prefer the Sig P365 as a CCW, but still carry my S&W 1911 SC Roundtail 45ACP as my other CCW, weight of a full-size 1911/43 ounces vs 29 for my LW makes the 1911 Gov’t my nightstand gun
@@robertellison2851 Roger that. Good decisions all around 👍
I was sold at the thumbnail. I love my shield but I wanted more capacity. Now this is a must have.
Meanwhile Taurus is making the G3C TORO with 3, 12 rounds magazines straight out of the box standard. Other companies need to step their mag game up if they want to truly compete for my money with their optic ready handguns.
Thank you, I was just about to comment that...
Funny how he'll review anything and everything in a specific category EXCEPT a Taurus.
Almost like he's actively trying not to like em.😐
Did he really leave out Taurus?! &&& Just to say, Frank.... I sent my P365 back for warranty work 3 times! That Taurus is up over 4K rnds and has never had anything but a cleaning. People are sleeping on Taurus!
@@BOHAWGGRIND 💯🙏👊
@Frank Bonazza III I’ve had jams in my 365 and my M&P, never in my G2C. I’d put it against those pistols for reliability any day of the week. Take the Pepsi challenge.
Just bought the new M&P 9 shield plus, I think it came out in late 2021 going into 2022 and let me say it is the best 9mm I’ve ever shot hands down! I highly recommend it for entry- intermediate shooters! I have a $1500 dollar pistol at home (not gonna name any names) and the M&P’s trigger is hands down way smoother and breaks way better than it.
I bought the P3 65 as the 365 XL‘s were coming into the gun shop delivery door. I went back in the next day to get the extended mag and a holster and after putting my hands on the XL wish I would’ve gotten the P3 65 XL because it was just a little larger and ideal to fit my hands. However I love my P3 65 it’s my favorite gun to shoot I shoot competition with what I carry and I carry every day because it’s The perfect size gun to keep on my hip all day long and doesn’t weigh me down
I’ve carried a regular shield 2.0 and even a 1.0 for years, I trust in big blue and in James shorts I will be buying it and know I’m already in love
When will the mags be available for sale?.....Im totally pumped for this but gotta get those mags before team blue says they are to dangerous for me.
M&P 2.0 compact with the 3.6 inch barrel is my edc. Just a little wider and uses any M&P magazines.
I own a 1.0 .40S&W full size M&P. I use it often with a KKM 9mm converted barrel. It came with factory 3 dot night sights. I may sell it & get a 2.0 model with no ambi safety.
Hmmmm...they just had the Subcompact which also has very similar specs
That's why I love my 2.0 Subcompact. I can use 10 round, 12 round, 15 round and 17 round OEM mags. Yeah it's a little wider but you can't beat the versatility. Regardless.. I'm still picking up a Shield plus lol
@@85DJW And you also get an accessory rail.
Sig: “Fuck the pocket pistol market watch this”
Springfield: “wait till y’all see THIS.”
S&W: “oh ya? Hold my beer”
But wait , where's taurus, do they have something new coming out
Nope. The Shield is still not as small as the P365. P365 all the way.
@@leahcimthgirw3163 hype to see it. I love when the market challenges itself and makes itself grow.
Yeah, I like my shield but the 365 is still going to be optimal in comparison. Especially in the XL model. Cleanest trigger in a micro 9 you're ever going to find, rail setup for a weapon light and has the setup for a red dot as well. Extended magazine 15 + 1 and it still fits completely in my hand.
The hellcat is garbage. Way too much side to side play in the trigger. Barely too much lateral pressure will render it dead. They cheaped out on the metal way more than Sig even did with the original 365 that had the primer scrape issue. It's an expensive paperweight. The Glock works fine but still can't compete and can't even properly be considered a micro nine or really even a subcompact. It's too big for that. Fact is Glock just doesn't care about micro pistols.
@@NDTexan spot on bröther. I LOVE the shield don’t even have a 365 and I’d still take it
Great Video, as always!!
I bought the Shield PLUS Optics Ready with night sights for the new lower retail price of $449. I added a SwampFox Sentinel Red Dot and a TLR-6 Light/Laser combo. Although the trigger is good; it did get better with a break-in.
That’s a good deal, where at?
I just bought this firearm. Took it to the range. Outstanding. I have the crimson trace on it. I’ve had the gen 1 for years. The plus is easier to grip, easier trigger pull. Love it
Glad someone finally gave Kel tech props for being there first, 20 years ahead of anyone else.
And now they're 20 years behind, hope they can make something that works. They've had lots of good ideas, but poor execution.
I've said it since the P365 and I'll say it again... When will companies apply this same magazine technology to mid and full size guns? I can't be the only one who wants to see a gun like a Glock 19 holding 22 rounds in a flush fit magazine am I?
Because at some point you would need a double and a half stack or a tri-stack magazine, and once you get beyond double stack the reliability generally takes a hit (and your width would increase as well).
@@Murphy82nd Well there were several prominent sub gun magazine designs that solved that. But also, just look at Shield Arms with the G43X and G48 magazines. For a Glock in particular, removing the polymer shell around the mag changes a lot.
But I'm not specifically talking just Glocks. I'd also like to see Micro Compact .45's, .40's and 10mm's. Perhaps this new revolution of magazines could even revive the .45 GAP cartridge if done right.
It is the same double-stack as G19, just thinner mag walls (steel, not plastic) and narrow mag well.
So with the same mag tech, you get G48 with that 15rd aftermarket mag, not "22 rds".
2.5 stack, double-feed mags are possible, but nobody makes them. Would give you about 3 extra rounds compared to G19, but nobody makes pistols like that. Double-feed mag alone gives 1 or 2 extra rounds, see GSh-18 for example.
You dont need to be a bullet hose. Battles are won with aimed fire. 🎯 I tote a 12rd Glock gen 5 9mm 26 at work. I tote a 17rd Magpul magazine as a spare.
@@DavidLLambertmobile Oh you're one of those "If ya can't do it with 7 then you shouldn't try at all!" kinda guys I see. It's not about need vs desire. Besides, the military applications are quite significant for something like that.
7:40 HEADPHONE WARNING!
He goes from talking very silent to instantly switching to the sound of gunfire and it's loud AF, if you are wearing headphones beware!
Just picked up a shield plus on an easter special. Came with optic cut, night sights and 5 magazines + a bugout "bag" (more like a satchel or man purse) and a med kit, PLUS a $50 rebate. Got all that for only 600, after rebate that's 550. I got mine at my local gun shop but online you can find em for 580 I think, but after shipping and ffl transfer fee's you'll pay about what I did but damn 3 extra magazines, night sights, $50 rebate, the med kit/bag combo, killer deal I couldn't pass up
Finally ordered one of these to be my new carry gun. Found one that's exactly what I wanted. Optics Ready, Night Sights, no thumb safety and a hell of a deal at $470.
Any holster recommendations? I had an IWB Crossbreed Supertuck for my CZ 2075 that's been my carry for a long time, but I've never found it comfortable, especially when sitting. I'd prefer it to be somewhere likely on the right side anywhere from 1 to 4 o'clock, but needs to be comfortable sitting and more secure than a ComfortTac (have one and like it for comfort, but doesn't seem secure in a fighting or running situation.
Good. I wanted a 365 type of gun without buying a Sig. I'll be buying this very soon.
I like both guns. You can't go wrong with this one.
Is it the price, the gun or the company?
@@sd09gfh8sfgjmsf9yhkm The company.
Looks great. But in the end, I’m still in love with my P365XL. Love that longer slide
Nothin beats it🇺🇸
How’s the trigger?
The long slide for this new M&P will be the same size (roughly).
I'm just hype for more options out there.
@@JackAustin613 its nice
Glock 48. Nuff said
I have the Hellcat and love it, but Smith & Wesson has some of the best feeling grips in handguns with their M&P's and Shields, so this one probably feels great in the hands. I haven't seen one IRL yet though.
Picked up a shield plus today. The new offerings have Nite sites included and optics ready too
I've loved this handgun the whole time I've owned/carried it. This, the Equalizer, and my P365s (Reg, XL & Macro) are what I carry in my rotation, all of which are comfortable to the point that I most times don't even know they're there.
Been waiting 3 years for this to come out, haha, finally!
Where to buy
Right I’m show waiting cause all the sites say out of stock🤔
@@samuelmedina8884 They have them in stock at Nagel's Gun Store and Northwest Armory. NW's price is the best if you wanna snag one cheap-ish. Google both of those places.
And that’s why I got in the habit of “going over the top” because several pistols’ slide stops can be a pain to operate.
Found my upgrade! Lol I still pack the 1.0 and love it but the capacity is lacking and have recently been wanting an optic. What a perfect coincidence! Lol.
Love this video ALMOST as much as my shield plus. Great job, and I like you throw the negatives in as well.
I'm not knocking this in the least bit by saying this, I love S&W, and have actually owned a shield that I loved, but I'm good with my Gen 5 Glock 26. I carry 11 rounds with stock mag with an added pinky extention purely for grip, but if I want I can either add +2 extentions on the stock mags, or even better just carry any of the larger capacity double stack mags. I picked mine up last year with Ameriglo night sights and it was about $600. Ambi slide release, smooth trigger with a great improvement over the earlier generations, and marksman barrel. I'm more than happy with it and it hides away on my waist line just beautifully. That being said, If I didn't have it, and wanted a compact double stack, this new Shield would definitely be top of my list and I hope to get to shoot one now that I see this. I love all of these amazing new higher capacity tiny nines. It's an exciting time to be a gun guy 😂.
Yeah, but does it shoot better than the Sig p365 which is dead nuts accurate? You should do a comparison video James.
Agreed. And the P365 is lighter and smaller...if we're most concerned about concealability.
The 7 rounds of .40 in my shield 1.0 all of a sudden makes me feel like a country bumpkin
Lol right? My Glock 43 six plus one Your not alone Jeb.
"making it probably the cheapest micro 9"
Ruger max-9 : starts existing
Except
the max-9 being based on the security-9 is a smart move and simplifys logistics; on the dark side...the lcp, lcp2, lc9, lc380, lc9s, lc9s pro, ec9s, security-9, and max-9 all share the same aluminum chassis pinned inside a polymer frame shell; Kel-Tec developed it & under heavy recoil loads the pins can start walking out (especially the micro models -- lcp & lcp2); Skky also uses the same build architecture and there are reports of pins walking...
I never had pins walking on any of the S&W polymer framed pistols I have owned on & off over the years (bodyguard 380 x 2, sd9ve x3, shield 1.0 x 3, sd40ve x1, sw9ve x 1, sd9 x 1, m&p 9 2.0 long slide x 1, m&p 9 1.0 compact x 1, and m&p 40 1.0 x 1)...I still have one of my shield 9's and it isn't going anywhere
I have a Shield 1.0 with Apex trigger kit, and I have put off upgrading for a long time because I didn't want different holsters etc. I shoot mine pretty well, but now I really want a Shield plus. I will have to get more extra mags (have like 6 for the Shield) but it's a small thing to do in order to get a much better gun.
I was a big Kimber fan, with my micro 9 Raptor having corrosion problems I looked at S&W. I looked at many 9mm carry guns and fell in love with the 3.1 Shield plus PC ported version. And the price made this purchase a no brainer.
Meanwhile, Walther: "hey look, an angrier PPQ!"
How do you improve perfection? Make it angry!
@@IamShrimple the PPQ/P99 platform is darn near perfect, ngl. Because the changes are so incremental (and because... German engineering) I don't expect the PDP to have the kind of issues a lot of new models have (SIG cough cough)
I love german guns handguns lol i had a hk usp 40 for my first handgun traded it a walther pps 9mm cause i got my ltc and this little tiny walther pps shoots fucking amazing nice groups at 10 to 12 yards really accurate ill always prefer german handguns over others
Trigger and grip are improved over OG PPQ and the OG ppq blows the S&W out of the water. The stock trigger alone in the ppq and now pdp.
@@Armymi33 all true, but apples and oranges. The PDP is still a full-sized handgun. If Walther had a high-capacity micro-compact, it would be a different story and I would buy the crap out of it if it offered something my current micro didn't.
New trigger shoe! Thank, God!! 🙌🏾
I just got the Shield Plus Performance Center 4” ported barrel and slide! I Love it. I got it as a back-up carry to my older full size M&P .40. (I put night sights and an Apex trigger on that one).
I just got a new-used Shield 9 plus- optics ready. I do not have an optic yet. But this is better than the Ruger Security 9-compact. The trigger is great!
They could have added a rail to make it perfection
Probably not enough space for a pic rail. And don't need another proprietary Bullshit
But than you wouldnt buy those bs 250$ lights that only fit this model
@@920utdoor you would rather not have the option than have a proprietary option?
Nah
You just said that like the TLR-6 don’t exist
I own a 43X. I love it!
How the heck did they get 14 rounds into a micro-compact?
Think I want this one too
THIS is what I've sat back and waited for...Improvements in the smart way,and MAYBE the only way I'll trade off a flawless carry...;)
I got around this by adding MagGuts followers, springs and base plates to my (original) M&P Shield 9. Adds 1/8" to the flush & extended mags - which actually helps. Here in NYS we serfs are limited to 10 rounds; so that got me to the top limit with the extended magazine. LOVE the pistol. Though I like the concept of the new flat trigger (haven't tried one) on the Plus. The original isn't bad in use. Still my EDC choice.
Subscribed because of this review. Great shooting and camera work brother! Might just have to pick one of these up.
Thank God almighty you weren't wearing your shorts for that low camera angle 🤣
Lmao
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Umbros were banned when I was in Catholic School 🤣🍻
This makes me inexplicably happy. Been carrying the og shield for years. Never been a big fan of how small the 365 was and it’s curved grip. I’ve always found the shield to be the perfect sweet spot. Can not wait to get my hands on an optics ready shield plus!
Wow - S&W managed to fit the same capacity as a P365 offers into a larger gun! This changes everything!
Sarcasm?
True, but I personally don't care for the too long harder to conceal grip of the P365 and like the fatter feel of the Plus grip with my big hands. Nicer mag release on the Plus also.
I just purchased the Shield Plus Performance Center model, not the optics ready version. Haven't fired it yet but looking forward to it. I've been carrying either my Shield 9 M2.0 or MP Compact 9c M2.0 and I LOVE being able to have 14 rounds at the ready, or 10 + 1 with a 13 round reload at the size and convenience to carry the same as my Shield M2.0. SO far the ONLY draw back for me is I can't find any magazines to buy extras and on the forums heard them referred to as unobtanium. Hopefully magazines will soon be made available!!! Like you I definitely like the black magazines much better than the plane steel shield mags!!! I liked your video! Subscribed and liked!
I guess he would call me a shield fan boy. I’ve been carrying the shield for two or three years now. But with my elderly eyes, I am looking at getting an optic. I was considering having my existing gun cut for an optic, but when I looked at the new shield plus, with the increase capacity and not having to have somebody mill my gun down, I decided that the new shield plus with the optics cut is gonna be the right gun for me. I’ll be sticking the house in 507 with the ACSS retical on top. Thanks for the informative review.
3:50 Oh Yeah, that's the shot there.