Tottenham Hotspur 2-7 Bayern Munich - 2019/20, Arsenal 1-2 Ostersunds - 2017/18 season and this Arsenal 1-5 Bayern Munich - 2016/17 season. Celtic were away, and those from the EPL were at home, just like Liverpool were Liverpool 2-5 Real Madrid - 2022/23 season. 2 games played 1 won 1 Lost BD only gets 3 points no more. These things happen in football and even happen to the elite.
Those teams don't get regular thrashings like celtic do. There are teams playing in Europe with far less money and resources than celtic who do better. Setting up in a 4-3-3 against Dortmund going toe to toe with them is a manager who is totally deluded. He refuses to change his tactics as if trying to prove a point that they can take anyone on and always get's these results, definition of madness is constantly doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result. Rangers don't have pot to piss in, but they do far better in Europe than celtic do and have taken some big scalps, they done so simply because they got their tactics spot on and didn't try to go toe to toe with teams they had no right to beat.
Yes you've had a lot of them, oh well back to skelping the dregs of Scottish football, plenty of celtic fans moaning about the vast difference in finance playing these teams and why they lose, but none of them ever mention that when playing teams like Ross county or Motherwell, pretty strange.
Brendan is nieve at this level he needs to swallow his pride and change things in his approach to these games. Celtic have pace out wide in meada and kuhn so why doesnt rodgers go long over the top and try to utilise that. Rodgers can only play one way and thats what is hurting Celtic.
Nope, tell me. Which players do Celtic deploy in a 451? We don't possess a single DM in the entire squad. Celtic play their football, that isn't what cost us. Individual errors cost us 6 goals.
Rodgers needs to take a leaf out of the book of O’Neill, Strachan and even Lennon. When playing in Europe financially out gunned by TV money and by Blood Money regimes you need to realise that defending and counter attacking are the way to go. He needs to wake up to that fact.
You trust scales Taylor trusty and Johnston with a low block to with stand wave after wave of attack ? Behave 😂! And do what when we get the ball? Punt it up to Kyogo who’s winning nothing in the air.
Pinging it behind for maeda, Kuhn and Kyogo to run on to. We got fast attackers that suit quick counter. Trying to play out with scales and trusty is worse than sitting deep. Scales can defend deep well. We had wave after wave last night anyway but we were in worse positions that we would have been if we had sat back.
We have the perfect outball for counter attacking too. Maeda and Kyogo are rapid fast so why Brendan refuses to set up for counter attacking is beyond me
@@AGxAG honesty, I think he did plan to counter this game, last season in the CL we were much more measured with our aggressive press than we were last night. But he saw Dortmund have been struggling this season and thought we could get them with our press. His comments after the game are the opposite of my theory, but I don’t think he wants to look foolish by saying he thought we could spank them after losing 7-1 😂
Celtic spent minus 11 million this transfer window which likely makes them the lowest spenders out of all 36 teams. Finishing in the top 24 despite this is still very much achieveable.
@@jacksonbow2766 But they weakened their team by selling an asset who was valued at 30 million. All I said was that their net spend was minus 11 million in the transfer window which is a fact like it or not.
@@jacksonbow2766 no they sold their best player. Making a profit in the transfer market is not what an ambitious team does. They didn't even spend the money they got. They sold a player worth 30 million and bought a player for 10 million to replace him, that's not strengthening the team.
Rangers have played a defensive 451 in every game for the last 5 years, that's their style - deploying long diagnols. It's suited to Europe, but can't get near Celtic domestically as actual football is needed then. Celtic don't have the squad to play a defensive 451, so can't.
Jim White “but Rangers got to a final” yeah they did Europa league but conveniently doesn’t mention what happened to them the following season in the Champions league 😂
It'll be interesting to see if Aberdeen can maintain their incredible start History suggests no, but it would sure be good for the league if The Dons could keep their momentum going
All this nonsense about budgets yet gap between Dortmund and Celtic is small compared to St.Johnstone and Celtic which is huge gap finacially and quality wise. The Scottish league is not just held back by lack of money, the clubs hold it back by refusing the changes that will bring more money in and also decelop their own talent every year. Celtic like their little thrown in that little pond of league and will never help to improve the league because they like their little holllow throne. The potential is there for big steps forward but the clubs refuse to sort it out.
Simon is spot on. Celtic are undoubtedly the best team in Scotland, but the Champions League is a whole different level that brings us back to reality after a dominant start in the first nine games of the season. Last night's result can be a pivotal moment, providing a chance to learn and push forward at the highest level. Keep the faith 🍀
You haven't really learned nothing in the past few years, where Rodgers has been in charge of some of their biggest defeats. His ego tells him he's always correct, he doesn't have a clue in Europe, not one away team in the champions league this week including Real madrid have set up in a 4-3-3, only one team did that and they lost 7 goals.
Well said Simon the bigger teams do get beat it’s the sport and players prices are up sky high and you get peanut cash compared to the epl etc then of course there’s a difference
Sir Lordship Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts McCoist give all Celtic fans that went over to Dortmund last night OBEs, I very doubt they will accept it.
When rangers and celtic play in the champions league it is a big gamble aye the money is handy but at the end of the day an embarrassing drubbing is never too far away ....out their depths and allways ends the same way ...not good enough different level
ermmm...... funny how they were the only club who could afford Mbappe on a ''free'' isnt it . What a stupid comment . Also , give ANY player the choice of City / Liverpool / Arsenal OR Real Madrid and they choose Madrid every day of the week . ''Best league in the world'' though.....where one team dominates every year
@@CraigWeir-q5v ye wot? That's all over the place. Mbappe didn't want to go anywhere else. They were able to afford his signing on fee and salary because they don't just go out buying everyone. Man U, City, PSG, even Arsenal, can all offer more than RM financially. Varane and Casemiro both went for double and triple wages respectively. Their transfer spending is offset by sales like Casemiro. And it was PSG who paid 220m for Neymar, leaving the "market" broken, with average players then becoming a minimum of 10m.
Seem to remember The Rangers getting beat at home 7-0 or 7-1 by Liverpool plus Dortmund are a far better team now than when they played them also when they played them Haaland wasn’t in the team
Nobody going to mention Celtic fans waving a Palestine flag last night ? no ? Or chanting about the IRA ? No ? funny that What is the weird obsession Celtic have with ''making friends'' with fans of other clubs . And this bizarre award they want for being fans
get back in your box. Last Celtic v Rangers at Hampden Rangers fans gave it the whole anti-Cathoilic jukebox while Celtic fans sang football songs & Palestinian flag isn't illegal! What a weird comment.
Personally, I think singing about "up to our knees in fenian blood" is a lot worse. Not to mention, they still wear the socks with the red stripe at the top. There's nothing wrong with waving a Palestine flag. We have done it for over a decade, maybe 2 now.
Prior to the start of the campaign, Celtic's opening two fixtures were Slovan Bratislava (H) & Dortmund (A) Most sane people would've predicted one win and one defeat from those two games. The manner of the opening game victory (5-1 going on 10-1) raised expectations going in to the Dortmund game and well.... we know what happened. There is no doubt that 7-1 is an embarrassing scoreline for any club at any level of football BUT when all is said and done, Celtic are on EXACTLY the number of points, after two games, that most people would've predicted us to be on. We've six more games to play. Atalanta & Aston Villa (both away) could be very sobering experiences but we've also got Club Brugge, Young Boys (both at home) and Dinamo Zagreb away which are all games we can get something from. Leipzig at home is a big ask but it's at home under the lights..... and you never know. So when all is said and done at the end of this campaign, Celtic could very well be sitting on 10-12pts and comfortably through to the next phase, despite a few heavy defeats along the way.
we do not have champions league standard centre halfs. Trusty and Scales would not get a game in the Eng Premiership. Rodgers should have signed a champs league standard centre half in the summer.
@@michaelross4735exactly unless you find someone like Van Dijk who’s rare then your not getting that standard of player in Scotland we just can’t afford it
If your budget is one of the smallest among UCL teams, expectations should also be at the bottom. Scottish League can only blame themselves by not joining the English league.
We weren't allowed to join. English teams knew at that point it would push a lot of them further down the table. The size of the clubs and the more money they both would have risen quickly
England don’t want Celtic. Quite rightly so because they they fly IRA flags etc etc. and the vile mouthed green brigade with their derogatory banners and the likes.
Rodgers think teams with big money we expect a doing, PSG barca,hes wrong him and leech Kennedy bad manager and supposedly defence coach, Desmond yes man leech Kennedy , when it happened last year and when poison chalice was last at Celtic when consistently happening under same regime and we can't totally blame players but defeatism filters down, Desmond still ripping Celtic off he's not real Celtic man coz couldn't buy man utd he's brought back POS rodgers,vast majority didn't want him he's failure in Europe, Kennedy we seen that snake in charge pathetic,soon as job in EPL comes up better not getting anges job,rodgers think in competitive matches think Burnley and crystal Palace should do us over because EPL money,Soon as these three POS leave Celtic better Lennon should be brought back before takes hun juniors hearts job,mccoist what competition are they in 😮
Tottenham Hotspur 2-7 Bayern Munich - 2019/20, Arsenal 1-2 Ostersunds - 2017/18 season and this Arsenal 1-5 Bayern Munich - 2016/17 season. Celtic were away, and those from the EPL were at home, just like Liverpool were Liverpool 2-5 Real Madrid - 2022/23 season.
2 games played 1 won 1 Lost BD only gets 3 points no more. These things happen in football and even happen to the elite.
Very well put, also Barcelona 2 -8 bayern
Those teams don't get regular thrashings like celtic do. There are teams playing in Europe with far less money and resources than celtic who do better. Setting up in a 4-3-3 against Dortmund going toe to toe with them is a manager who is totally deluded. He refuses to change his tactics as if trying to prove a point that they can take anyone on and always get's these results, definition of madness is constantly doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result. Rangers don't have pot to piss in, but they do far better in Europe than celtic do and have taken some big scalps, they done so simply because they got their tactics spot on and didn't try to go toe to toe with teams they had no right to beat.
Jim White is clearly loving it. Once a bluenose...always a ....
😂😢😂
Jim white was actually defending celtic and scottish teams history in Europe.
@@wbelfast777 Oh please 🙄
Fair play to Simon Jordan, sensible comments.
Well said Simon Jordan...onwards and upwards for Celtic....very bad night....but we move on
Yes you've had a lot of them, oh well back to skelping the dregs of Scottish football, plenty of celtic fans moaning about the vast difference in finance playing these teams and why they lose, but none of them ever mention that when playing teams like Ross county or Motherwell, pretty strange.
Brendan is nieve at this level he needs to swallow his pride and change things in his approach to these games. Celtic have pace out wide in meada and kuhn so why doesnt rodgers go long over the top and try to utilise that. Rodgers can only play one way and thats what is hurting Celtic.
Nope, tell me. Which players do Celtic deploy in a 451? We don't possess a single DM in the entire squad.
Celtic play their football, that isn't what cost us. Individual errors cost us 6 goals.
@@lf67hh28Sold the only DM we had to Birmingham for pennies. Given no chance under BR
Rodgers needs to take a leaf out of the book of O’Neill, Strachan and even Lennon. When playing in Europe financially out gunned by TV money and by Blood Money regimes you need to realise that defending and counter attacking are the way to go. He needs to wake up to that fact.
Yep defo
You trust scales Taylor trusty and Johnston with a low block to with stand wave after wave of attack ? Behave 😂! And do what when we get the ball? Punt it up to Kyogo who’s winning nothing in the air.
Pinging it behind for maeda, Kuhn and Kyogo to run on to. We got fast attackers that suit quick counter. Trying to play out with scales and trusty is worse than sitting deep. Scales can defend deep well. We had wave after wave last night anyway but we were in worse positions that we would have been if we had sat back.
We have the perfect outball for counter attacking too. Maeda and Kyogo are rapid fast so why Brendan refuses to set up for counter attacking is beyond me
@@AGxAG honesty, I think he did plan to counter this game, last season in the CL we were much more measured with our aggressive press than we were last night. But he saw Dortmund have been struggling this season and thought we could get them with our press.
His comments after the game are the opposite of my theory, but I don’t think he wants to look foolish by saying he thought we could spank them after losing 7-1 😂
Celtic spent minus 11 million this transfer window which likely makes them the lowest spenders out of all 36 teams. Finishing in the top 24 despite this is still very much achieveable.
They spent over 30 million not 11. ...
@@rebelxx4318 They spent 30 but took in 41 making a net spend of minus 11 million.
@@ianthomson3288 That is NOT MINUS 11million.
They still strengthened by breaking their own club records fees paid.
@@jacksonbow2766 But they weakened their team by selling an asset who was valued at 30 million. All I said was that their net spend was minus 11 million in the transfer window which is a fact like it or not.
@@jacksonbow2766 no they sold their best player. Making a profit in the transfer market is not what an ambitious team does. They didn't even spend the money they got. They sold a player worth 30 million and bought a player for 10 million to replace him, that's not strengthening the team.
Jim white absolutely loving it
Celtic were awful. Bottom line. It was the exact opposite of what Rodgers said before.
I’m amazed this does happen more often then Scottish teams budget is tiny
We went to a final on pennies. It can be done and there loaded as they love to say so no excuses man they should be doing better
@@Lb__92-z1u I honestly think you over achieve. If I go back to the days of Larson, Laudraup etc the SPL was strong now its below championship level.
@@capio78 of course we do we can’t match 80/90% of these budgets but we win so it can be done
Rangers have played a defensive 451 in every game for the last 5 years, that's their style - deploying long diagnols. It's suited to Europe, but can't get near Celtic domestically as actual football is needed then.
Celtic don't have the squad to play a defensive 451, so can't.
@@lf67hh28 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jim White “but Rangers got to a final” yeah they did Europa league but conveniently doesn’t mention what happened to them the following season in the Champions league 😂
Jim whites blue n white Talksport army 🇬🇧👍🏻😎
It'll be interesting to see if Aberdeen can maintain their incredible start
History suggests no, but it would sure be good for the league if The Dons could keep their momentum going
Aberdeen will finish above rangers. No doubts about that
You're right Simon, it could have been worse. Rangers could have been whupped 7-1 in the UCL, also!
I mean, there's many other weak teams in the UCL from various leagues, none of them are as consistently bad as celtic are.
All this nonsense about budgets yet gap between Dortmund and Celtic is small compared to St.Johnstone and Celtic which is huge gap finacially and quality wise.
The Scottish league is not just held back by lack of money, the clubs hold it back by refusing the changes that will bring more money in and also decelop their own talent every year.
Celtic like their little thrown in that little pond of league and will never help to improve the league because they like their little holllow throne.
The potential is there for big steps forward but the clubs refuse to sort it out.
Simon is spot on. Celtic are undoubtedly the best team in Scotland, but the Champions League is a whole different level that brings us back to reality after a dominant start in the first nine games of the season. Last night's result can be a pivotal moment, providing a chance to learn and push forward at the highest level. Keep the faith 🍀
You haven't really learned nothing in the past few years, where Rodgers has been in charge of some of their biggest defeats. His ego tells him he's always correct, he doesn't have a clue in Europe, not one away team in the champions league this week including Real madrid have set up in a 4-3-3, only one team did that and they lost 7 goals.
Well said Simon the bigger teams do get beat it’s the sport and players prices are up sky high and you get peanut cash compared to the epl etc then of course there’s a difference
did simon say they might finish in the top 8 🤭
If Huw Edwards was a football team, he would be Celt*c
Sir Lordship Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
McCoist give all Celtic fans that went over to Dortmund last night OBEs, I very doubt they will accept it.
Sir Lord Simon Jordan & Sir Spectre = top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts 👌
@@GamerFrisco Mighty Lordship GamerFrisco = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Is jim a hun by any chance 😂
It was a good result for Celtic. It could have been more! 😂😂
Take it out on Ross County.. serious punditry. Definitely putting £20 on County
When rangers and celtic play in the champions league it is a big gamble aye the money is handy but at the end of the day an embarrassing drubbing is never too far away ....out their depths and allways ends the same way ...not good enough different level
Talking sense, Simon. This new format means we can just move on.
The best teams in history knew how to play on the counter in Europe, why does BR think he knows better?
Yeah they can only bounce back if they were facing a weak pReMiEr leAgUe team
Scottish football has lots of heart but little to no talent and it's only getting worse 😢.....MOT
Well said simon
Wait til they find out they're the best team in Scotland
Real Madrid cant compete financially with the top English clubs or PSG.
ermmm...... funny how they were the only club who could afford Mbappe on a ''free'' isnt it . What a stupid comment .
Also , give ANY player the choice of City / Liverpool / Arsenal OR Real Madrid and they choose Madrid every day of the week .
''Best league in the world'' though.....where one team dominates every year
@@CraigWeir-q5v ye wot? That's all over the place. Mbappe didn't want to go anywhere else. They were able to afford his signing on fee and salary because they don't just go out buying everyone. Man U, City, PSG, even Arsenal, can all offer more than RM financially. Varane and Casemiro both went for double and triple wages respectively. Their transfer spending is offset by sales like Casemiro. And it was PSG who paid 220m for Neymar, leaving the "market" broken, with average players then becoming a minimum of 10m.
@@abody499 With all the American revenues and Oil money you still fall short in Europe especially against LaLiga teams 😂
@@Dante--X wut
LOL,,YES THEY CAN and DO
Seem to remember The Rangers getting beat at home 7-0 or 7-1 by Liverpool plus Dortmund are a far better team now than when they played them also when they played them Haaland wasn’t in the team
Again lol when rangers beat dormund . Dormund had half the team injured
Bouncing back against Scottish Premier league titans FC Rabsey Nesbitt in front of 630 fans 😂😂😂😂
That’s exactly what it’s about, bouncing back 🧐I bet you Celtic get a play off place, there’s 6 games to play, we will do it 😊
Celtic fan her congratulations ally mccoist celtic have 6 games to collect a min 6 pionts can easily still be done
Yeah very bad night .yeah rangers lost 7 as well .there's no money in Scottish footy .so these teams have to do there best .was that it nope .
Nobody going to mention Celtic fans waving a Palestine flag last night ? no ?
Or chanting about the IRA ? No ? funny that
What is the weird obsession Celtic have with ''making friends'' with fans of other clubs .
And this bizarre award they want for being fans
But when they disgrace the minutes silence every November, Jim comes on national radio to talk poorly about ‘Rangers and Celtic’
No one gonna mention how clinical Dortmund were infront of goal? dont think the flag waving fans affected the players. 😂
get back in your box. Last Celtic v Rangers at Hampden Rangers fans gave it the whole anti-Cathoilic jukebox while Celtic fans sang football songs & Palestinian flag isn't illegal! What a weird comment.
Personally, I think singing about "up to our knees in fenian blood" is a lot worse. Not to mention, they still wear the socks with the red stripe at the top. There's nothing wrong with waving a Palestine flag. We have done it for over a decade, maybe 2 now.
What's wrong with singing about Irish freedom fighters?
When rangers beat dorment
Birdbrain Jim
Celtic will go on to beat a team in Scotland which a fraction of Celtics budget at the weekend and be back to world beaters 😂
Celtic Glasgow is really bad... We invite them to compete in *2.Bundesliga* 😂 they play like Schalke 04😅
Donkey
Like Bayern no?
Prior to the start of the campaign, Celtic's opening two fixtures were Slovan Bratislava (H) & Dortmund (A)
Most sane people would've predicted one win and one defeat from those two games. The manner of the opening game victory (5-1 going on 10-1) raised expectations going in to the Dortmund game and well.... we know what happened.
There is no doubt that 7-1 is an embarrassing scoreline for any club at any level of football BUT when all is said and done, Celtic are on EXACTLY the number of points, after two games, that most people would've predicted us to be on.
We've six more games to play. Atalanta & Aston Villa (both away) could be very sobering experiences but we've also got Club Brugge, Young Boys (both at home) and Dinamo Zagreb away which are all games we can get something from.
Leipzig at home is a big ask but it's at home under the lights..... and you never know.
So when all is said and done at the end of this campaign, Celtic could very well be sitting on 10-12pts and comfortably through to the next phase, despite a few heavy defeats along the way.
celtic should be baned from football for boy club
Google Gordon Neely rangers fc. Not the rangers boys club.
rodgers is the best joke in whole european football-what a gardener🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
we do not have champions league standard centre halfs. Trusty and Scales would not get a game in the Eng Premiership. Rodgers should have signed a champs league standard centre half in the summer.
No Scottish team can afford to buy a CL quality Centre half its out of their budget
@@michaelross4735exactly unless you find someone like Van Dijk who’s rare then your not getting that standard of player in Scotland we just can’t afford it
The league , weather and lack of funds is putting anyone at a high level of coming
If your budget is one of the smallest among UCL teams, expectations should also be at the bottom. Scottish League can only blame themselves by not joining the English league.
Don't want em in the English leaque full stop never going to happen
Nobody wants to associate with that pdofile club Celtic. Stain on football 🤢
We weren't allowed to join. English teams knew at that point it would push a lot of them further down the table. The size of the clubs and the more money they both would have risen quickly
@@weeJinky why would they let Scottish teams into English leaques
England don’t want Celtic. Quite rightly so because they they fly IRA flags etc etc. and the vile mouthed green brigade with their derogatory banners and the likes.
Thay should pay their
🇬🇧VICTIMS🇬🇧
They should pay their
🇮🇪TAXES🇮🇪
Rodgers think teams with big money we expect a doing, PSG barca,hes wrong him and leech Kennedy bad manager and supposedly defence coach, Desmond yes man leech Kennedy , when it happened last year and when poison chalice was last at Celtic when consistently happening under same regime and we can't totally blame players but defeatism filters down, Desmond still ripping Celtic off he's not real Celtic man coz couldn't buy man utd he's brought back POS rodgers,vast majority didn't want him he's failure in Europe, Kennedy we seen that snake in charge pathetic,soon as job in EPL comes up better not getting anges job,rodgers think in competitive matches think Burnley and crystal Palace should do us over because EPL money,Soon as these three POS leave Celtic better Lennon should be brought back before takes hun juniors hearts job,mccoist what competition are they in 😮
Celtic by far the most hated club in world football. State of them 🤢🤡
State of you crying 😂😂 wee man
@@Realzezro state of you suporting the biggest cover up in sporting history 🤢
U support hearts pipe down
Jim White super hun