The Times Crossword Friday Masterclass: 1 November 2024: The Controversy

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  • @bradleyshannon7894
    @bradleyshannon7894 3 місяці тому +88

    Hey UA-cam algorithm, figure it out already!

  • @TokuHer0
    @TokuHer0 3 місяці тому +27

    Hey UA-cam Algorith, Simon and Mark do a wonderful job making these Cryptic Crosswords appealing to a wide audience and you should recommend them more!

  • @annabelleedwards5018
    @annabelleedwards5018 3 місяці тому +13

    I don't even do the cryptic crossword, but I just find these so enjoyable and interesting that I now look forward to them each Friday!

  • @khotsomoabi
    @khotsomoabi 3 місяці тому +71

    Press running = urge on.
    Latest = last
    Pictures = pics

    • @davidfranklin5426
      @davidfranklin5426 3 місяці тому +2

      Or “plastics” was considered the “latest” hot job for Benjamin (Dustin Hoffman) to pursue in the movie The Graduate, i.e. “in pictures.” 😅 Ok, I like your explanation better.

    • @benphelan88
      @benphelan88 3 місяці тому

      @@davidfranklin5426 I thought of exactly this too. It would warm my heart if it was the intent of the constructor.

    • @Antagony1960
      @Antagony1960 3 місяці тому

      I think Simon got too convinced by 'press' = URGE, so never twigged it could also be SURGE. Clever clue!

    • @grmmmmhpph
      @grmmmmhpph 2 місяці тому

      @@Antagony1960 Arguing purely for the algorithm - It could be, but the construction has "pictures" as plural so I'm agreeing with "pics" :)

    • @47Jamm
      @47Jamm 2 місяці тому

      Latest in pictures
      Last within pic
      P - last - ic

  • @bryanroland9402
    @bryanroland9402 3 місяці тому +14

    My favourite video of the week. I almost always learn something too. As for the ambiguity, "that has" can be contracted to "that's" when "has" is an auxiliary verb but not when it's the main verb. If we're meant to read it that way, then it isn't standard English. Very confusing.

  • @blackbunnii9719
    @blackbunnii9719 3 місяці тому +17

    Friday's edition of cracking the cryptic is always my fave ~

  • @debrabowen4276
    @debrabowen4276 3 місяці тому +11

    These cryptic crossword videos are a real high point of my week!

  • @willjohnsnow
    @willjohnsnow 3 місяці тому +38

    The Quick Cryptics have been brutal on some days this week. Today's was a DOUBLE pangram by the way!

    • @mace9770
      @mace9770 3 місяці тому

      I thought I was being thick!

  • @mafr95
    @mafr95 3 місяці тому +8

    First time watching one of your crossword videos. This was absolutely amazing. My mind is honestly blown

  • @icecreamandsadness
    @icecreamandsadness 3 місяці тому +4

    Simon's dulcit tones helping to keep my dog calm with the fireworks going off randomly outside. Finished the video and she's finally curled up next to me asleep. Thanks Simon ❤🐶

  • @katy-music
    @katy-music 3 місяці тому +1

    A leg is also part of a stage! It’s the hanging curtain that helps define the backstage area 🦵

  • @sue3458
    @sue3458 3 місяці тому +10

    Yes you can spell Neal like that e.g. Neal Foulds (snooker player). Great video as always

  • @otterotterottercid
    @otterotterottercid 3 місяці тому +3

    friday is my favorite day of the week solely for these videos! cryptic crossword superiority!

  • @aang_arang
    @aang_arang 3 місяці тому +2

    You have no idea how much I look forward to watching this video before bed every Friday

  • @rpb424
    @rpb424 3 місяці тому +5

    I was waiting for you to go back and look at 'Plastic Surgeon' again at the end and try and work out why plastic didn't seem to be clued, but I guess the whole Hamburg/Homburg thing meant that got forgotten

    • @barrycross8952
      @barrycross8952 3 місяці тому +11

      Latest = last
      Pictures = pics
      P last ics
      Simon confused himself by reading it as the latest letter of pictures.

    • @rpb424
      @rpb424 3 місяці тому

      @@barrycross8952 Ah yes, or course. Easy when you see it!

  • @waynethomas7406
    @waynethomas7406 2 місяці тому +2

    Simon, the shouting at the screen part is just an indication of how well you are teaching this content. Without spoilers, the two clues you are unsure of parsing, you have explained brilliantly previously and the fact that you sometimes struggle gives the rest of us great succour 🙏

  • @nsrikand1
    @nsrikand1 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent Simon!! Please keep it up! Great learning for us!!

  • @davidbennett1316
    @davidbennett1316 2 місяці тому

    I can usually manage the concise and never the cryptic so made my day to get three of these before you did - I love your humility. (And I couldn't remember some of the concise answers even though I solved (most of) it last week 😬)

  • @sterling50
    @sterling50 3 місяці тому +4

    Long time watcher from texas! These are hard puzzles especially since i dont understand most of the british slang, but it is very entertaining and fun to watch and learn. Crack on!

    • @Meowsma
      @Meowsma 2 місяці тому +1

      Howdy from the Dallas area! It's always interesting to learn just how much British slang I am *completely* unaware of.

    • @sterling50
      @sterling50 2 місяці тому

      @@Meowsma Yea absolutely! I often have caught myself saying Daft now when making a slight against myself and its fun to explain the origin of that word for myself being from a cracking the cryptic video series ha!

  • @tamishea6198
    @tamishea6198 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the wonderful explanation of the clues!!! Watching your video gives me the courage to try these crosswords again ❤.

  • @glum_hippo
    @glum_hippo 3 місяці тому +4

    The possibility that I will miss ALL of the sudoku solves in a week is higher than the possibility that I will miss the cryptic solve.

  • @Majorr86
    @Majorr86 3 місяці тому +5

    The "Mass Extinction" is probably a bit tricky because the wordplay partially plays upon the other wordplay instead of the intended answer directly. An extinction does not precede a mass necessarily, but it would precede a funeral mass, or requiem.

    • @DadgeCity
      @DadgeCity 3 місяці тому +2

      Yes, Simon was reading the answer instead of the clue.

  • @johnciolfi5085
    @johnciolfi5085 3 місяці тому +3

    It’s funny, I put Hamburg in the puzzle when I solved it last night, but watching the video, I honestly couldn’t remember which one I’d put. I was probably saved by the fact that I just visited Hamburg a few weeks ago (lovely city, the city hall is tremendous and the franzbrötchen was delightful). It’s a shame so many people got caught out by that clue.
    Also, I think your fuselage troubles might come from the word fusillade, which is a volley of bullets (from the French word fusil - rifle).

  • @satchury
    @satchury 2 місяці тому

    absolutely love your cryptic crossword solves! I cant imagine ever solving one myself though

  • @mitrisharaiha8916
    @mitrisharaiha8916 3 місяці тому

    I love your channel so so much I’ve been watching since Covid times and absolutely love these cryptic crosswords. When Mark would complete the monthly special it was a joy to watch a master at work. These weekly Friday crosswords are amazing too it’s immense seeing you work these clues out so easily.

  • @leonhardeuler675
    @leonhardeuler675 3 місяці тому

    Love the cryptic crosswords. I remember back in the day when it alternated between the crosswords and the sudoku (or something like that). It really is invaluable to have such an authoritative place to point people who want to get started with them.

  • @mikechappell5849
    @mikechappell5849 3 місяці тому +8

    I was amused by how Simon, who is always on the lookout for pangrams, commented on all the weird letters in the quick crossword wihout noticing that it's a pangram

  • @david.james.t.kirk27
    @david.james.t.kirk27 3 місяці тому +1

    My favourite videos to watch right after coaching my Friday morning fitness class

  • @weirdandlazy1
    @weirdandlazy1 3 місяці тому

    These videos are my favorite to fall asleep to, then watch again during the day.

  • @konstantinosadamopoulos9918
    @konstantinosadamopoulos9918 3 місяці тому

    These have been very helpful for helping me in my cryptic crossword journey

  • @joanabbott9531
    @joanabbott9531 3 місяці тому

    I very much enjoy these solves. Thank you Simon.

  • @OUdarling
    @OUdarling 3 місяці тому

    On the quick cryptic - you were likely conflating fuselage with fusillade, which have their first two syllables in common. Thank you for the solves and the explanation!

  • @andrewgrant6516
    @andrewgrant6516 3 місяці тому +50

    I prefer my version. A container for ashes is an urn. A second container for ashes is Mo' Urn.
    Mo' urn, mo' problems.

    • @colej.banning2419
      @colej.banning2419 3 місяці тому

      That was my interpretation too before I heard Simon's explanation.

    • @Antagony1960
      @Antagony1960 3 місяці тому +1

      I really didn't understand this comment, so I used my Google fu to glean that "mo’" is American (maybe Ebonics) slang for "more". If so, that _does_ work, but most Brits - i.e. the primary target audience for The Times - wouldn't get it. "Mo’" for "more" is not in any _British_ dictionary I can find.

  • @limegreenelevator
    @limegreenelevator 3 місяці тому +36

    For the ambiguous one, I think the reason it's HAMBURG and not HOMBURG is the substitution indicator. "Key for Oscar" suggests an A taking the place of an O, and _that_ goes in just one direction. (I'd think "O for A" would suggest "HOMBURG" as correct, but not "A for O.") I do agree that the ambiguity in the linking indicators makes it much, much more difficult though.

    • @homewort-gf2ni
      @homewort-gf2ni 3 місяці тому +7

      I politely disagree that A for O generalIy means replace an O with an A; to me it reads more as replace an A with an O! It's funny we interpret things definitely, and does mean this clue is definitely ambigious! I think that it's more likely clueing Hamburg as the correct answer because the instruction makes more sense that way (i.e. you have the word for hat and then do something with it, rather than you do something to a word you don't have yet). An unfair clue, imo, but lovely work as always, Simon.

    • @homewort-gf2ni
      @homewort-gf2ni 3 місяці тому +3

      For example, if a sign read '£2 for a lolly', you expect to pay £2 and receive a lolly, not give a lolly and get £2!

    • @limegreenelevator
      @limegreenelevator 3 місяці тому +2

      @@homewort-gf2ni interesting, I've always seen in in cryptics as "A comes in for O" rather than "A goes out for O." Certainly raises questions about its use as a substitution indicator.

    • @Willd2p2
      @Willd2p2 3 місяці тому +4

      @@homewort-gf2ni I think the context is doing almost all of the work there though. A sign that said "lolly for £2" would also be read in the same way you imply. In this clue specifically I think with any reading of the contraction "that's" it only really makes sense to be read the way it was intended. I.e. in both "A that is X for Y [from B]" and "B that has X for Y [giving A]" I personally can only really parse that as X replacing Y and it meaning the opposite would feel very wrong.
      I do agree that the clue could have been worded better though - even just swapping the words Hat and City in the clue would be less ambiguous to me at least.

    • @PotmosHetoimos
      @PotmosHetoimos 3 місяці тому +2

      I think the “for” can be comfortably read either way, but in terms of the linking, “in” suggests to me that the substitution is taking place IN the city.

  • @aljones27uk
    @aljones27uk 3 місяці тому +1

    Helping you help the algorithm as you help me improve my solving!

  • @mr_enigma
    @mr_enigma 2 місяці тому

    Thank you, Simon, I love these videos!

  • @missioncardiac7599
    @missioncardiac7599 3 місяці тому +8

    Michael Tippett, English composer, 1905-1988. So allowable by the old rules.
    Apart from the hat/city problem, not quite taken with Mass extinction.

    • @Willd2p2
      @Willd2p2 3 місяці тому +6

      Mass extinction seems perfectly fine to me. A requiem is specifically a mass following a death, and extinction certainly implies death, so "requiem" gives Mass and "what it follows" gives Extinction in the sense that a requiem could certainly follow an extinction of life.

  • @ChairboyRules
    @ChairboyRules 3 місяці тому +4

    Always love the Cryptic crossword.

  • @archivist17
    @archivist17 3 місяці тому +1

    This cryptic video is a highlight every week! I do try to feed the algorithm each week.

  • @willygetssilly
    @willygetssilly 2 місяці тому

    I love these videos, they are my favourite!

  • @Byron418
    @Byron418 3 місяці тому +1

    Love these cryptic solves! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @emilywilliams3237
    @emilywilliams3237 3 місяці тому

    I definitely enjoy these. Thanks, Simon!

  • @sue3458
    @sue3458 3 місяці тому +11

    Quick Cryptic double pangram!

  • @MarcMcMillin
    @MarcMcMillin 3 місяці тому

    can't belive it's almost been two years!! Love these 🙂

  • @discostoo
    @discostoo 2 місяці тому +1

    This is the content I subbed for. Double pangrams ftw.

  • @toanoradian
    @toanoradian 2 місяці тому

    1:19 Simon: "Where's Matthew, Mark-"
    Me: "Luke, and John?"

  • @Anne_Mahoney
    @Anne_Mahoney 3 місяці тому

    Another Friday, another crossword video: it doesn't get any better than that! 😸💚

  • @davidotoole9328
    @davidotoole9328 3 місяці тому

    Forgotten how much I enjoy this. I've five unfilled and wondering when you'll find a stinker (or not).

  • @andrewkitching9339
    @andrewkitching9339 3 місяці тому

    Great video Simon!
    I went for HAMBURG, but failed with the game, biffing HALLA rather carelessly. Otherwise I found it straightforward, but admired the elegant clues.

  • @TheMacabreTavern
    @TheMacabreTavern 3 місяці тому +2

    Ended up on Tippett myself because a tip would be at the end, and I just remember the composer.

  • @foxmitten1443
    @foxmitten1443 2 місяці тому

    I love these videos! more cryptics

  • @romanthompson2024
    @romanthompson2024 2 місяці тому +1

    Best episode of the week

  • @longwaytotipperary
    @longwaytotipperary 3 місяці тому +2

    ❤to see these every week

    • @davidrattner9
      @davidrattner9 3 місяці тому +1

      Been such a pleasure for us that he and Mark have kept these going for nearly 2 years ❤❤

    • @longwaytotipperary
      @longwaytotipperary 3 місяці тому

      @ absolutely!!! ❤️💜💙🩷

  • @oscarbarnes2130
    @oscarbarnes2130 3 місяці тому +2

    Love these videos!

  • @royston1928
    @royston1928 3 місяці тому +3

    I love these videos!

  • @jbftcmof
    @jbftcmof 2 місяці тому

    I got my first ever full clue before you in this puzzle. 28 across. Now I just have to stop pausing the video so much :)

  • @karimmaasri1723
    @karimmaasri1723 3 місяці тому

    Another fantastic solve by Simon.

  • @WrathOfAnima
    @WrathOfAnima 3 місяці тому

    These videos are the only vids of yours I watch usually, figure it out already, algorithm! (Nothing against your sudoku/other puzzle videos, I'm just stumped enough by cryptics 😅)

  • @Sgray-ep7se
    @Sgray-ep7se 3 місяці тому

    love how the Quick Cryptic turned out to be a pangram

  • @Waldemar-10811
    @Waldemar-10811 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video as always

  • @Di0nysiac
    @Di0nysiac 3 місяці тому

    boo to the algorithm! I learned how to do cryptic crosswords watching these videos and never miss an episode.

  • @skullsNscalps
    @skullsNscalps 2 місяці тому

    I have been trying to solve cryptic puzzles since high school.
    Now I just watch.

  • @cameronnall1664
    @cameronnall1664 3 місяці тому

    Keep these puzzles coming. And UA-cam keep recommending these

  • @ColinStiles-o9r
    @ColinStiles-o9r 2 місяці тому

    Great fun as always. If you’ve committed to a solution that’s a proper noun, would it be worth Googling it to check, as it won’t be in the dictionary? Or would you run into copyright issues?

  • @sue3458
    @sue3458 3 місяці тому +2

    I would be interested in knowing Mark's opinion re the Homburg/Hamburg clue

  • @mrsstrople
    @mrsstrople 2 місяці тому +1

    I think all the Only Connect I watch lead my algorithm in this direction 👍

  • @cumulus888
    @cumulus888 3 місяці тому

    always enjoy the crossword video.

  • @bloodspatteredguitar
    @bloodspatteredguitar 2 місяці тому

    Since you didn't revisit it: "latest in pictures" yields p(last)ic|s, not just the final 's'.

  • @christhecyclist5998
    @christhecyclist5998 3 місяці тому

    Thank you as always

  • @nickr3115
    @nickr3115 3 місяці тому

    Very enjoyable, as always.

  • @duncanwilliamson3242
    @duncanwilliamson3242 3 місяці тому +1

    Highlight of my week as alway

  • @ranajamal3848
    @ranajamal3848 3 місяці тому

    Great solve as always

  • @A_CC_K
    @A_CC_K 3 місяці тому

    Best part of a Friday morning/mid afternoon.

  • @vickikaye2170
    @vickikaye2170 3 місяці тому +1

    Simon! Sir Michael Tippett indeed!

  • @grenvillephillips6998
    @grenvillephillips6998 3 місяці тому

    Thanks!

  • @krisposkett
    @krisposkett 3 місяці тому

    Best videos on the channel!

  • @GalagoShogi
    @GalagoShogi 2 місяці тому

    50:52 - There goes Maverick again!

  • @MarkBennet10001
    @MarkBennet10001 3 місяці тому +2

    Love these videos. Quick Cryptic is pangram.

  • @johanneshasund2571
    @johanneshasund2571 3 місяці тому

    I'm just in pure awe 😮

  • @missioncardiac7599
    @missioncardiac7599 3 місяці тому

    Enjoyable as always

  • @brycecrux2730
    @brycecrux2730 3 місяці тому

    my fave as well, many thanks

  • @mjkluck
    @mjkluck 3 місяці тому

    Good stuff, Bubs.

  • @timrutherford-johnson7003
    @timrutherford-johnson7003 2 місяці тому

    Tippett is Sir Michael (as others have pointed out), but "Wanting Tippett" is a great name for something. Maybe a cat.

  • @dethbygaming
    @dethbygaming 3 місяці тому

    Sir Michael Kemp Tippett, CH CBE was one of the premier British composers around the end of World War II. Should give New Year Suite a listen.

  • @NeoXDotEXE
    @NeoXDotEXE 2 місяці тому

    I might just be stupid and please correct me if so. Hat being the first word in the clue should mean that there is no A to be replaced with an O. Like if you just read the clue as "Homburg that's key for Oscar". But if the clue said "City that's Oscar for key" it would be the other way around. Im not sure if the placements of the words in the clue usually have much meaning though so im probably wrong. (Very new to this type of crossword)

  • @cheeseonhead
    @cheeseonhead 3 місяці тому

    Hey algo, this vid is good

  • @simonb670213
    @simonb670213 3 місяці тому

    Was very taken with Simon’s tiara in the thumbnail.

  • @mikaylaalford5062
    @mikaylaalford5062 2 місяці тому

    Always love

  • @Fortunalux
    @Fortunalux 16 днів тому

    Commenting on this ancient controversy for the algorithm. I think a justification for [city] over [hat] is that A is the key letter of "that's" - I'm sure I've seen 'key' used as a 'take the middle letter(s)' indicator. So if you have the key of "that's" for Oscar, the clue only works in one direction, since there is no Oscar in [city]. But the other reading still legitimises [hat], of course, so the clue needed to be fixed.

  • @garrettsmith9788
    @garrettsmith9788 3 місяці тому +6

    A comment for the all powerful algorithm!

  • @Gorm169
    @Gorm169 3 місяці тому

    "Prince Hal" usually refers to Shakespeare's portrayal of Henry V before he became king. Henry V was the son of Mary de Bohun.

  • @bloodspatteredguitar
    @bloodspatteredguitar 2 місяці тому

    The Requiem (rest) Mass is the Mass for the Dead. Requiems-specifically, rather than Masses in general-therefore follow death=extinction.
    As an aside, I had the privilege of singing the ancient chants of the Requiem Mass this Saturday for the Commemoration of the Faithful Departed.

  • @annastevenson27
    @annastevenson27 3 місяці тому

    Friday Fav.

  • @GeorgeFrideric71
    @GeorgeFrideric71 3 місяці тому

    I like these videos.

  • @RSDonovan
    @RSDonovan 2 місяці тому +1

    Robert throws out mild expletive (7)

  • @5t757
    @5t757 3 місяці тому +3

    Commenting for engagement and to say please keep making these videos. At sudoku I can routinely match your and Mark's solves but in cryptic crosswords you are Messi and Ronaldo levels of magnitude better than me and I enjoy watching the best solvers in the game solve them.

  • @Emmibean77
    @Emmibean77 3 місяці тому +1

    Come on Algorithm!!! There videos are the best

  • @MrBileDuct
    @MrBileDuct Місяць тому

    I love Cryptic too! - Algorithms - less so!

  • @bobblebardsley
    @bobblebardsley 2 місяці тому

    I'm a bit late to this video, I think I was away at the time, but I've learned not to shout at my screen if Simon appears to spell something wrong, since 9 times out of 10 it turns out to be a valid alternative spelling in the dictionary and required for the solution to be correct 😄

  • @smb7yv
    @smb7yv 3 місяці тому

    The only two clues I was able to do on my own were the two teeth which Simon struggled. Unfortunately, the Times never has two clue puzzles.