@@azaritox2910jay talks too much shit he really needs prove it personally or shut up. The console players on HIS OWN STREAMS have proved him wrong soooo many times at this point he’s talking shit on console for clicks 😂 he can’t possibly believe that fr
if console is so easy i wanna see jay get to GM on console, i also remember the console team shitting on u in one of ur videos. Console GM's have had to play against xim cheaters for years and alot of people like flats came from console and easily got to GM/top 500 on pc...
I think pc probably has a higher player base with more try hards and less kids which is why it's probably slightly higher but overall they're probably the same.
@@SecureBirch410 i can assure u for a fact there is not more tryhards on pc, pretty much every single lobby on console is an ashe/sojourn pocket that just dominates the entire lobby, most console casuals just play quick play theres alot of people with like no hours in ranked and even then quick play is insanely sweaty as well
Yeah exactly. It's a shame genuine mercy players reputation gets hurt so much by this. Remember that these are people cheating, they will do whatever it takes to win, they only play mercy because she's easy and provides extra value to the cheater. If any other characters did that they'd play them
Fr WTF is this nonsense? Once he said missing an arm and key role in Talon, I knew for sure this shit was rigged because Torb and Cass ain't in no Talon, that's for sure. lol
@Blitzvonic Genetically/robotically enhanced does not count. The arm/hand is still there, there's just state of the art enhancements applied to said limb. It's not the same as the arm/hand being completely gone and replaced with a fully mechanical/metal arm/prosthetic. By the logic you propose, you might as well add Sojourn into the mix. lol
@matthewperez3209 My brother in Christ Sojourns arm literally folds itself apart to be able to shoot out her disruption shot. Anyway I got it wrong anyway, it's actually his right arm, the one under the gauntlet, that's prosthetic. Just look at his background page.
Jay says console players are bad, then proceeds to lose to console players. And honestly, if people want to end the argument about PC vs Console, then let's merge them, even for temporary and see what happens. Let's put money where mouths are.
@@Jay3 The point is the people making this comparison aren't listening. Its two different systems of input you can't compare skill level based on that. I started on xbox and play pretty much exclusively on pc and my ability to play was easier. People think the aim assist is doing all the work but you can take a console player and give them a mouse and they'll still be pretty good, it ain't gonna work in reverse.
@@Jay3 Weren't the console vs. PC games your own viewers? Not quite understanding where the Xim thing is coming from since the comment is talking about a specific series of games you hosted with a well known console team.
@@ImaFrakkinNinjayou can compare skill level across platforms, but you have to keep in mind that console and pc have different skill ceilings. If you were to take the average skill level of a player and disregard their hardware completely (putting it in a vacuum) you’d see a drop between console towards PC. But is it by no means fair to say that console players are bad players since they are literally only able to be as good as their system allows.
There was one decent tik tok in there and that was the abc one, the rest were just not funny Edit: The last tik tok was good but not funny that’s why I didn’t add it
1:00 i booped 4 ENEMIES oof the map at that huge hole in Nepal once with Reinhardt. I then almost did it again but then i did it with 3 ENEMIES on the same match (i didn't use shatter)
For the last video, while I think he isn't totally correct I think he made some valid points. You can't compare console and pc players, since they both have their niches. Console has far superior aim but lacks when it comes to projectile and movement based characters, meaning characters like ashe, soldier and widow are better on console. Whilst, Pc players niche is characters with movement and projectile. They can both play outside their niche with practice but both those niches are superior on those inputs. They also have different meta's because of those niches, which can cause one to be superior to another at different points. But in my honest opinion, you can't compare console ranked and pc ranked 1 to 1.
The main thing you lose from console to PC, is the aim n some mechanical skills. But u still have the game sense and positioning knowledge all that. If u play mostly dps hitscan, probably yeah u drop. Maybe other aim heavy hero like illari, hog, kiri, zen. Maybe. But other heroes? Probably no diff
Jay, you have hosted plenty of console vs pc games of the same rank. Both platforms are pretty much on the same level. Even though console has beaten pc teams more times than pc has beaten console 😈
For the pc to console debate, a low gm console is 100% equivalent to a pc plat, but a high gm/top 500 console might be more similar to higher ranked pc players, just depends on who they are, but ngl there’s like 100 actually good console players out there, everyone else is just not at the skill level of pc players, I’m sorry.
It’s fair to say that outliers shouldn’t change the overall sentiment. The top console players have found a way to be comparable to their pc equivalent but overall PC tends to have an average skill level higher than console. It’s almost like the higher ranked you are the less of a gap it becomes
It makes no sense to keep saying that console players are worse than PC players. They’ve done very well in the games you’ve hosted, Jay, and to add to that, you can’t discredit their game sense and knowledgeability. If they crossed over into PC, more than likely they would still be very high ranks.
came from console recently learned mouse and analog, i was masters console im plat pc barely played. also aiming on pc is WAY EASIER idk why ya'll get mad about aim assist
It’s mainly because it’s the game aiming for you which in most pc games is called an aimbot which is a common illegal software. So when you die to aim assist when playing against console it’s frustrating since it doesn’t exactly feel like you’ve just been out skilled
That last TikTok was just straight copium 😂 I'm a die hard console player and even I can say that objectively PC gamers are just better. A console GM isn't the same as a PC plat, but it is like PC master, or high diamond
I would say on average console is worse and I’ve played both. I’m a much better player on pc than I am console yet I go from master 3 on console to gold 2 on pc. It’s less about aim and more about strategy I feel like on pc
Pc gm is better than console gm but console gm is still gm compared to pc plat. I had a friend who was colsole gm and he ended up around diamond on rein who is arguably not a good hero but still doesnt require aim. He played rein the way he does in gm on console and it got him as far as diamond. But he still easily diffs plat reins and most diamond reins as well. The games are just played differently and pc requires significantly more skill to climb and to be good at the game.
Hey jay i feel like I’m in elo hell and I’m platinum 2 and I main ash you inspire me to play her a lot and I was wondering if you could give me a chance ppl who read this comment like it for jay 3 to read it
I don't get the take at the end. Didn't you spend like half a stream watching PC get pounded by a Console team before getting the same with your T500 friends? Ofc we know you weren't playing like it was a tourney but still. I don't think Console is that far behind PC if a bit of scrimming is all it takes to not just be on par with, but dominate PC players like they did.
Putting aside the rank argument, the movement characters being good on pc actually takes effort to learn compared to the aim assist that's available to everyone regardless of how good or bad you are.
Con players above diamond only zim and having aim assist. I had a gold friend get ow on his ps and he immediately went up to top 500. I think it’s a funny story because I think there’s cope on both sides, this is just like ya your bad.
2:40, i thought you are smarter than dat. You believe he was cheating too? how do you know mercy and hanzo was duo? what if mercy just wanted to win? all i see is LW trolling. I know 99% believe what was said to them but i thought you are the rest 1% who can think for themself.
Rank doesn't show anything other than how desperate you are for a win. Congrats, you shamelessly switched to a meta hero faster than anyone else could. The only high ranked players I respect are non-meta One tricks.
The support dating video was SO corny I can’t believe he willingly made that
Actually skipped through that shit damn 💀
It only bothers you all because you’re a bunch of incels and will never know the touch of a woman. It’s not that serious guys.
I thought I was tripping holy cringe
One of the worst videos I’ve ever seen 😂
That was terrible 😭
i can't believe i'm a french guy watching jay3 at 4pm in france
No one cares
@@no_name_7077 I do 🧚🎀💅✨🥰
@@no_name_7077I do.
Wait what’d you say I think it’s in french
Why are t you typing in French? Did you eat your daily baguette?
I wanna see a Jay3 unranked to Gm on console to prove his point
He plays on keyboard and mouse so it would literally handicap him
If someone on console had to do an unranked to gm on pc they would fail even if they were number 1 because its not a controller
@@azaritox2910jay talks too much shit he really needs prove it personally or shut up. The console players on HIS OWN STREAMS have proved him wrong soooo many times at this point he’s talking shit on console for clicks 😂 he can’t possibly believe that fr
@@Denarias lol jay got his ass handed by that hcpeful guy who plays on console. I cant believe how hard hes still in copium.
@@azaritox2910I don’t see your point, I’m Dimond on console, and I got to Dimond on pc after 2 days of playing pc
The only thing that's mysterious about Jay, is his hair when he zoomed closer to his webcam
chill bro, he did say at 05:32 that he was kinda of a BALDass. so, let it go. xDD
no worries jay3, i got your back. :3
What hair?
There’s no way he said console ranks lower he literally lost to the team of 5 console gms like 3 times lmaoooo, mannnnn u might be washhhhed
3:32 yo this guy is pissing me off hollyyyyy
the cringeeeee
Ong
16:00 jay didnt your team lose to console players a month ago? Champion 3 tracer named hopeful remember?
They literally haven’t beat a console team yet. I think it’s time to let this argument that PC players are better, go.
if console is so easy i wanna see jay get to GM on console, i also remember the console team shitting on u in one of ur videos. Console GM's have had to play against xim cheaters for years and alot of people like flats came from console and easily got to GM/top 500 on pc...
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I think pc probably has a higher player base with more try hards and less kids which is why it's probably slightly higher but overall they're probably the same.
@@SecureBirch410 i can assure u for a fact there is not more tryhards on pc, pretty much every single lobby on console is an ashe/sojourn pocket that just dominates the entire lobby, most console casuals just play quick play theres alot of people with like no hours in ranked and even then quick play is insanely sweaty as well
zen mains rise up
Id roll you
can't, our balls are too heavy
And our tits too huge
8:21 this junkrat clip is something I always do
Mercy players dont queue with cheaters, people that queue with cheaters play mercy
Yeah exactly. It's a shame genuine mercy players reputation gets hurt so much by this. Remember that these are people cheating, they will do whatever it takes to win, they only play mercy because she's easy and provides extra value to the cheater. If any other characters did that they'd play them
Nanananna, Doom ain’t missing an arm at all it’s literally a Gauntlet, INCORRECT INFORMATION!!!!!
Fr WTF is this nonsense? Once he said missing an arm and key role in Talon, I knew for sure this shit was rigged because Torb and Cass ain't in no Talon, that's for sure. lol
i’m pretty sure he has a prosthetic and the gauntlet on top of it
@matthewperez3209 Are yall forgetting the other arm that literally shoots shotgun pellets out of it and is made of metal?
@Blitzvonic Genetically/robotically enhanced does not count. The arm/hand is still there, there's just state of the art enhancements applied to said limb. It's not the same as the arm/hand being completely gone and replaced with a fully mechanical/metal arm/prosthetic. By the logic you propose, you might as well add Sojourn into the mix. lol
@matthewperez3209 My brother in Christ Sojourns arm literally folds itself apart to be able to shoot out her disruption shot. Anyway I got it wrong anyway, it's actually his right arm, the one under the gauntlet, that's prosthetic. Just look at his background page.
ngl i didnt know reaper gets lifesteal from meleeing
10:06 after watching Froggers recent video lol
Jay says console players are bad, then proceeds to lose to console players. And honestly, if people want to end the argument about PC vs Console, then let's merge them, even for temporary and see what happens. Let's put money where mouths are.
How tf does jay still think that console players are bad!? Litterly nearly every Pc vs Console Video of him got the Pc Team rolled...
And this was before they started banning for xims, checkmate
@@Jay3ye it was basicly only xim users in high ranked console with aim assist. Hopefully now it will show controller skill more
@@Jay3 The point is the people making this comparison aren't listening. Its two different systems of input you can't compare skill level based on that. I started on xbox and play pretty much exclusively on pc and my ability to play was easier. People think the aim assist is doing all the work but you can take a console player and give them a mouse and they'll still be pretty good, it ain't gonna work in reverse.
@@Jay3 Weren't the console vs. PC games your own viewers? Not quite understanding where the Xim thing is coming from since the comment is talking about a specific series of games you hosted with a well known console team.
@@ImaFrakkinNinjayou can compare skill level across platforms, but you have to keep in mind that console and pc have different skill ceilings. If you were to take the average skill level of a player and disregard their hardware completely (putting it in a vacuum) you’d see a drop between console towards PC. But is it by no means fair to say that console players are bad players since they are literally only able to be as good as their system allows.
8:22 Junkrat almost broke Jay
12:41 I said Soldier with no hesitation💀
The last guy is crazy
And then there were the jay3 vid where gm console players rolled the pc players..
That junk rat one is pretty good if you somehow run out of mines in those certain spots lol
4:13 as a LW & Mercy main, I feel called out. I can't help that I'm tall...and crazy
The Mercy main thing from the dating video is absolutely true about my gf lol
12:05 bro I knew the second they said he's in talon and he's missing an arm
8:19 valorant raze mains be like
I keep stray Mercys as pets. they can be really cute
2:45 "duo queuing with a cheater"
Welcome to console top500 gamplay Jay. That's literally what every xim users do.
Reaper’s lifesteal includes melee? Is that true⁉️
where tf did his bed go
hold up, my brother is a zen main let me go check
Winton
Mercy players aren't Queuing with cheaters. Cheater supporters are just playing mercy.
but doom isn't even missing an arm isn't it more like a power glove?????
I do beleive rankes are in flated a little in console ranked but it is no where near that much
Me a Moira/Zen main: 💀💀💀💀
There was one decent tik tok in there and that was the abc one, the rest were just not funny
Edit: The last tik tok was good but not funny that’s why I didn’t add it
1:00 i booped 4 ENEMIES oof the map at that huge hole in Nepal once with Reinhardt. I then almost did it again but then i did it with 3 ENEMIES on the same match (i didn't use shatter)
Nah the last guy was cooking cause y’all pc players can play with hundreds of fps while ps4 is capped at 60 fps and it fluctuates all the time for me
Bro still had the AUDACITY to say console is worse when he got wiped my hcpeful and his team
Thanks for proving my point. A full team who practices together > random players put together on a team. Thank you!
@@Jay3 youre welcome Jay4
@@Jay3 u right tho u right
For the last video, while I think he isn't totally correct I think he made some valid points. You can't compare console and pc players, since they both have their niches. Console has far superior aim but lacks when it comes to projectile and movement based characters, meaning characters like ashe, soldier and widow are better on console. Whilst, Pc players niche is characters with movement and projectile. They can both play outside their niche with practice but both those niches are superior on those inputs. They also have different meta's because of those niches, which can cause one to be superior to another at different points. But in my honest opinion, you can't compare console ranked and pc ranked 1 to 1.
The main thing you lose from console to PC, is the aim n some mechanical skills.
But u still have the game sense and positioning knowledge all that. If u play mostly dps hitscan, probably yeah u drop. Maybe other aim heavy hero like illari, hog, kiri, zen. Maybe.
But other heroes? Probably no diff
12:03 Am I crazy but doesn’t Doomfist still have his arm? Doesn’t he just wear a gauntlet?
Jay, you have hosted plenty of console vs pc games of the same rank. Both platforms are pretty much on the same level. Even though console has beaten pc teams more times than pc has beaten console 😈
I'm a gold 1 console player and a silver pc player 💀
I cant trust what jay says cuz he mains ashe
For the pc to console debate, a low gm console is 100% equivalent to a pc plat, but a high gm/top 500 console might be more similar to higher ranked pc players, just depends on who they are, but ngl there’s like 100 actually good console players out there, everyone else is just not at the skill level of pc players, I’m sorry.
It’s fair to say that outliers shouldn’t change the overall sentiment. The top console players have found a way to be comparable to their pc equivalent but overall PC tends to have an average skill level higher than console. It’s almost like the higher ranked you are the less of a gap it becomes
Bro if YOU are gm in PC then PC is washeedddddd
It makes no sense to keep saying that console players are worse than PC players. They’ve done very well in the games you’ve hosted, Jay, and to add to that, you can’t discredit their game sense and knowledgeability. If they crossed over into PC, more than likely they would still be very high ranks.
winton
Im pretty sur you did a video of gm console vs gm on pc and the console were winning... Very interesting isnt it
As well as, you said in that video you think that master pc will lose to gm console
I want you to prove it. Play console comp and let's see if you can hit GM 1 or top 500. Put your money where your mouth is and let's see what you got.
mmmmmmmmmmmm, winton
came from console recently learned mouse and analog, i was masters console im plat pc barely played. also aiming on pc is WAY EASIER idk why ya'll get mad about aim assist
It’s mainly because it’s the game aiming for you which in most pc games is called an aimbot which is a common illegal software. So when you die to aim assist when playing against console it’s frustrating since it doesn’t exactly feel like you’ve just been out skilled
That last TikTok was just straight copium 😂 I'm a die hard console player and even I can say that objectively PC gamers are just better. A console GM isn't the same as a PC plat, but it is like PC master, or high diamond
GET IN THE HOLE
,,JRM,,
I would say on average console is worse and I’ve played both. I’m a much better player on pc than I am console yet I go from master 3 on console to gold 2 on pc. It’s less about aim and more about strategy I feel like on pc
4:30 prob the worst one
Pc gm is better than console gm but console gm is still gm compared to pc plat. I had a friend who was colsole gm and he ended up around diamond on rein who is arguably not a good hero but still doesnt require aim. He played rein the way he does in gm on console and it got him as far as diamond. But he still easily diffs plat reins and most diamond reins as well. The games are just played differently and pc requires significantly more skill to climb and to be good at the game.
Hey jay i feel like I’m in elo hell and I’m platinum 2 and I main ash you inspire me to play her a lot and I was wondering if you could give me a chance ppl who read this comment like it for jay 3 to read it
All caps
im a kiriko main and i get hangry like very hangry
they were wrong
Its easyer to get better at a pc.
Grandmaster console is Pc bronze cu grandmaster console is just a cheater 🤷🏽♂️
You mean xim?
Yo Jay, I think I caught Arrge cheating. I have video proof, can I get your opinion??
I don't get the take at the end. Didn't you spend like half a stream watching PC get pounded by a Console team before getting the same with your T500 friends? Ofc we know you weren't playing like it was a tourney but still. I don't think Console is that far behind PC if a bit of scrimming is all it takes to not just be on par with, but dominate PC players like they did.
You should play again console player and see who’s better
🎉
Putting aside the rank argument, the movement characters being good on pc actually takes effort to learn compared to the aim assist that's available to everyone regardless of how good or bad you are.
Not a single good tiktok!!! Editors cooked NOTHING with this comp
Con players above diamond only zim and having aim assist. I had a gold friend get ow on his ps and he immediately went up to top 500. I think it’s a funny story because I think there’s cope on both sides, this is just like ya your bad.
shiddup
This the corniest shit i seen all day
16:36 how about you try some console ow2 then, since you think your pc skills will carry your hindquarters to victory
1 min gang👇
No one cares
@@JAX-xp4mz I liked that! :D
5 minute gang
2:40, i thought you are smarter than dat. You believe he was cheating too? how do you know mercy and hanzo was duo? what if mercy just wanted to win? all i see is LW trolling. I know 99% believe what was said to them but i thought you are the rest 1% who can think for themself.
Rank doesn't show anything other than how desperate you are for a win. Congrats, you shamelessly switched to a meta hero faster than anyone else could. The only high ranked players I respect are non-meta One tricks.
winton