Good example of the "ego dissolution" in a true artist. His soul is wide open and unprotected with nothing but the piano. Cziffra is one of the most undervalued and overcritized pianist of the past.
He's having so much fun, but when he performs with pain and intensity, it is very believable as well. Cziffra is not only incredible talented, but is also mature and extremely virtuosic. This is deliciously post modern and perfectly suits the music and art post WWII. It's angry, it's sad, it's passionate, it's desperate, and it is pure self expression.
He's definitely understand what he's playing. And this is absolutely brilliant variations and performance . This deserves to transcribe in music notes for others could play this.
While I agree that he probably didn't have the mental capability in this video that he did when he was younger, I don't think that statement reflected his choice of style. It's more of an example of a musician who's played and heard so many diatonic possibilities that they resort to a more dissonant approach in music. Take Scriabin for example. Like numerous composers, his earlier music was very romantic and accessible, but his later music was more avant-garde. This is intentional.
Cziffra seems to express an outrage through extreme, aggressive anger which he makes no effort to subdue. It is violent playing that makes me feel much compassion for him.
People read so much into the music based on what they already know about a person's life. If this improvisation was strictly audio and the title was "Horowitz original rendition of Grieg's 'Peer Gynt'" all the comments would be singing its praises. Yes his son died and I'm sure anyone would be sad about that. But a great musicians are great because they can play during all kinds of circumstances.
I completely disagree. Shallow interpretations and not knowing the who the musician and composer is and what they were about is essential for understanding a piece, it's nature, and why it was performed/composed the way it was in the first place. Music is far more than scribbles on paper, and real people bring the music to life. If you want restrained "professionalism" that lacks emotional depth, then get a robot to play it. Personally, I'll prefer the human and their interpretation any day. If people praise Horowitz, but harshly critique Cziffra, then they must be blind, deaf, and dumb. Arm chair critics that know nothing of the piano should be altogether ignored. Every pianist I know love Horowitz and is ASTONISHED by Cziffra. Often, Cziffra makes them want to quit playing because he is so incredible. I imagine Liszt to be the best combination of Cziffra and Horowitz, but a womanizer and, paradoxically, a very devout man as well.❤😂 Do you not care to know about a composer's life? Do you think Mozart is a giggling boy genius? Perhaps Beethoven was only a cold hearted madman? Both are false. It is imperative to know the nature of the piece you are playing, along with the style, the time period, art of the time, the language used in the notation (at least the words on the page), art of the time, etc. Otherwise, you are doomed to give a flat performance with a shallow and uninformed interpretation, and it will most likely have the wrong style, shape, phrasing, etc.
@@evifnoskcaj I'm not sure what this had to do with my comment. I'm referring to the host of other comments saying that they can "hear the pain and suffering of a mentally unstable Cziffra" in this improvisation. I don't think people blindly come to this conclusion on a listen to the music with no context. This has nothing to do with studying composers or musicians and their lives. Obviously it's good to do this. But it's also important to be able to listen objectively. Confirmation bias does exist...
I retain in shady 2007 (or 2006) user marcelmombeek uploaded this (in colour), but in 2008 it was removed. Since that, I have despaired to find this piece, but it is here again! THANK YOU, Pironet! I have been hunting for this jewel. Only think he had lost his son and this was recorded 6 yrs before Cziffra's decease, and the last years of life his fingers hurt (long after having been damaged in youth). 00:29-00:30 - that gaze leaves aghast! But the evil smile at 00:31 spoiled the nameless dread.
Desde que lo vi por primera vez tuve la sensación de que Cziffra era la viva reencarnación de Liszt. No tengo argumentos, podría haber pensado en otro gran pianista como Chopin, pero no es así. Siento que fue el mismísimo Franz Liszt. Si alguien más tuvo esa sensación déjemelo saber.
This was hard to watch, nothing wrong with his playing- just that I could see grief manifest so transparently in his face and hear it transformed in the music.
Dreaming Warlord the technique is though chiffra isn’t the Musik is representing his feelings and maybe it’s not happy because he wasn’t but that doesn’t make it bad
He’s old. Read biographies of Cziffra and you’ll see that his hands were incredibly damaged from being forced to work. Hear a little bit of dissonance and you call the man insane; what would you think of Crumb, Bax, Boulez, Stockhausen, Sorabji, Szimanovski, Godovski, Scriabin, Bortkiewicz, or any of the others..??
People read so much into the music based on what they already know about a person's life. If this improvisation was strictly audio and the title was "Horowitz original rendition of Grieg's 'Peer Gynt'" all the comments would be singing its praises. Yes his son died and I'm sure anyone would be sad about that. But a great musicians are great because they can play during all kinds of circumstances.
Good example of the "ego dissolution" in a true artist. His soul is wide open and unprotected with nothing but the piano.
Cziffra is one of the most undervalued and overcritized pianist of the past.
He's having so much fun, but when he performs with pain and intensity, it is very believable as well. Cziffra is not only incredible talented, but is also mature and extremely virtuosic. This is deliciously post modern and perfectly suits the music and art post WWII. It's angry, it's sad, it's passionate, it's desperate, and it is pure self expression.
He's definitely understand what he's playing. And this is absolutely brilliant variations and performance . This deserves to transcribe in music notes for others could play this.
While I agree that he probably didn't have the mental capability in this video that he did when he was younger, I don't think that statement reflected his choice of style. It's more of an example of a musician who's played and heard so many diatonic possibilities that they resort to a more dissonant approach in music. Take Scriabin for example. Like numerous composers, his earlier music was very romantic and accessible, but his later music was more avant-garde. This is intentional.
Cziffra seems to express an outrage through extreme, aggressive anger which he makes no effort to subdue. It is violent playing that makes me feel much compassion for him.
People read so much into the music based on what they already know about a person's life. If this improvisation was strictly audio and the title was "Horowitz original rendition of Grieg's 'Peer Gynt'" all the comments would be singing its praises. Yes his son died and I'm sure anyone would be sad about that. But a great musicians are great because they can play during all kinds of circumstances.
I can't see anyone mistaking this for Horowitz's playing. It is way out of character.
@@zavilov I don't think that's the takeaway lol
I completely disagree. Shallow interpretations and not knowing the who the musician and composer is and what they were about is essential for understanding a piece, it's nature, and why it was performed/composed the way it was in the first place. Music is far more than scribbles on paper, and real people bring the music to life. If you want restrained "professionalism" that lacks emotional depth, then get a robot to play it.
Personally, I'll prefer the human and their interpretation any day.
If people praise Horowitz, but harshly critique Cziffra, then they must be blind, deaf, and dumb. Arm chair critics that know nothing of the piano should be altogether ignored. Every pianist I know love Horowitz and is ASTONISHED by Cziffra. Often, Cziffra makes them want to quit playing because he is so incredible.
I imagine Liszt to be the best combination of Cziffra and Horowitz, but a womanizer and, paradoxically, a very devout man as well.❤😂
Do you not care to know about a composer's life? Do you think Mozart is a giggling boy genius? Perhaps Beethoven was only a cold hearted madman? Both are false. It is imperative to know the nature of the piece you are playing, along with the style, the time period, art of the time, the language used in the notation (at least the words on the page), art of the time, etc. Otherwise, you are doomed to give a flat performance with a shallow and uninformed interpretation, and it will most likely have the wrong style, shape, phrasing, etc.
@@evifnoskcaj I'm not sure what this had to do with my comment. I'm referring to the host of other comments saying that they can "hear the pain and suffering of a mentally unstable Cziffra" in this improvisation. I don't think people blindly come to this conclusion on a listen to the music with no context. This has nothing to do with studying composers or musicians and their lives. Obviously it's good to do this. But it's also important to be able to listen objectively. Confirmation bias does exist...
I retain in shady 2007 (or 2006) user marcelmombeek uploaded this (in colour), but in 2008 it was removed. Since that, I have despaired to find this piece, but it is here again!
THANK YOU, Pironet! I have been hunting for this jewel. Only think he had lost his son and this was recorded 6 yrs before Cziffra's decease, and the last years of life his fingers hurt (long after having been damaged in youth).
00:29-00:30 - that gaze leaves aghast! But the evil smile at 00:31 spoiled the nameless dread.
This must be one of Cziffra's last recordings...
I can feel that he was happy when he played this :) BRAVO Cziffra!!
Desde que lo vi por primera vez tuve la sensación de que Cziffra era la viva reencarnación de Liszt. No tengo argumentos, podría haber pensado en otro gran pianista como Chopin, pero no es así. Siento que fue el mismísimo Franz Liszt. Si alguien más tuvo esa sensación déjemelo saber.
Superb!
But i am not able to hear anything from my right earpiece 😅
Grandioso, nella sua disperazione. Sublime grande !!
Genio increíble!!!
Really a creepy performance, Cziffra seems destroyed by the loss of his son and his cancer. Poor man
he looks so sad here god bless him.
awesome
Cziffra seems really hurt in this.
It was Cziffra, and the others.
This was hard to watch, nothing wrong with his playing- just that I could see grief manifest so transparently in his face and hear it transformed in the music.
Now that’s anxiety
@theoryjoe Its hard, but known and played in some pieces... It comes with good technique ;)
Sounds like he turned it into Bartok
0:43 is that an octave glissando?
Yep. Cziffra does several throughout. Some more around 2:30.
Sacred video
@𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙𒈙 sacred Cziffra
The
this fucking scary
@triton382 failing mind ? he is at the end of his life,where he lost his son, therefore someone could get a little insane ….
Какой же он страшный...
Ярослав Ткаченко a вы?
Ярослав Ткаченко Состарился он уже. Все мы такими будем
This is a perfect example of a failing mind...it has reached the boundary of where sanity an insanity link together....Poor man...
dont see how a "failing mind" could have near perfect technique
Dreaming Warlord the technique is though chiffra isn’t the Musik is representing his feelings and maybe it’s not happy because he wasn’t but that doesn’t make it bad
He’s old. Read biographies of Cziffra and you’ll see that his hands were incredibly damaged from being forced to work. Hear a little bit of dissonance and you call the man insane; what would you think of Crumb, Bax, Boulez, Stockhausen, Sorabji, Szimanovski, Godovski, Scriabin, Bortkiewicz, or any of the others..??
Failing mind? Maybe. The music is ingenius though.
People read so much into the music based on what they already know about a person's life. If this improvisation was strictly audio and the title was "Horowitz original rendition of Grieg's 'Peer Gynt'" all the comments would be singing its praises. Yes his son died and I'm sure anyone would be sad about that. But a great musicians are great because they can play during all kinds of circumstances.
It’s not only his son, his whole life was a drag :/
@@halokoko7638 very true, but he managed to play despite what happened to him. Lots of great musicians throughout history had super tough lives.