*Hey everybody - based on the comments I'm reading I seem to not have been clear the oven prep in this RV. Winnebago does not offer an oven option. An oven can be added AFTERMARKET however at a dealership or if you have the know-how. Sorry for the confusion!*
We just took delivery of 1720tb 2 weeks ago. Took it on It's first outing this past weekend. We tow with a 2023 Ford Ranger with the tow package. It does tow real well even with a 25 mph crosswind. The only real drawback is the small bathroom, but we knew that. The 12v fridge is huge and works really well. Very happy so far.
Heng's Vortex fan is definitely the way to go. Installed two in our Micro Minnie and then swapped them over to our Voyage when we upgraded. So easy to install and great to not have to mess with anything on the roof.
I would absolutely prefer this with a sofa. If the divider was removed from that stand by the bed you could probably fit a pair of tv trays in it. As it is I would probably just go with the 1808FBS with the sofa in the slide. That said this floorplan does lend itself well towards a daybed type setup. If you got some of those wedge shaped pillows they make for sitting up in bed you could have a pretty comfortable rainy day lounge space up against the front wall. Edit: I really like the bathroom setup with the larger square shower and the kitchen and storage situation is remarkably good for such a small camper. I think I prefer this layout if it had a sofa to the 1808FBS. The 1720fb has a little more counter space and I feel like the cabinets over the dinette make for a decent panty space without reducing countertop real estate. Personally I've never had a problem with the idea of doing hand washing and tooth brushing at the kitchen sink in a small camper and I would rather have the larger rectangular shower than an a redundant sink crammed into a small bathroom. Edit 2: 1200~ pounds is very respectable for something this size.
@@JoshtheRVNerd In our old 2106FBS that would not have worked due to the wheel well taking up most of the space. A better solution is to leave some space between the back of the sofa and wall.
Instead of dinette, put two swivel chairs. Move the microwave to below the three burners. Make above stove, storage. And would like a two burner stove. Nice little camper
I love little campers. I love when companies, especially legacy companies like Winnebago, constantly rethink their designs to cram more into the smaller spaces it makes me really wonder if I really need that larger trailer or 5th-wheel. I don't mind the smaller sized almost everything, because that creates room for more of everything else; like the capacity for a true queen sized mattress, storage, etc. I'd usually wish for a more regular sized oven. But they include a convection/microwave unit. You can still roast a chicken, beef roast, or small turkey, or bake bread, cakes, and cookies, in a unit that size, with small adjustments is recipe and/or technique. I know...I have. If it was just a microwave that would be an instant thumbs down. It isn't. And don't forget folks, a convection oven is also a big air fryer. Three burner cooktop...nice. I don't usually care for single basin sinks. But, they give you a good sized one you can actually wash pots and pans in instead of a tiny one. And they include the counter extension that gives you a space for a dish pan when washing up. Normally, I'd complain about not having a true extractor fan. Not here. Upgrading to full sized fans works here because of the small size. (There's no excuse for large trailers and 5th-wheel, though.) I think I'd leave the dinette as is and use the bed as a pseudo-couch. The tiny sink in the bathroom is ok. Again space is saved for other things. BIG pass through storage; bigger than many larger trailers. Solar option is great, Josh. But, is there an option for more solar capacity, extra batteries, and 12V compressor fridge? That might just make this model nigh perfect.
They offer these in an FLX edition which will increase the solar, improve the A/C to a more energy efficient unit, add a large inverter, and a big battery/charger system
@@JoshtheRVNerd Excellent. The FLX sounds awesome. Also, someone told me yesterday that Dometic is now producing A/C-heatpump units that run on 12VDC for the RV and yacht world. This would require sacrificing some storage to battery space (due to all of us having to obey the laws of physics....except me, of course ;p ).
I agree on the stove top. Unless you have really small pans you can’t fit three pans on that stove. With a sofa you lose the storage under the dinette. I have a 2108fbs and I like that floor plan. With no range hood a high volume fan is necessary. The fire alarm goes off when you’re cooking your burger. Winnebago supposedly has a good reputation for quality but you couldn’t tell with my trailer. It’s less than 2 months old with a couple of serious problems. When full timing, loss of use can get really expensive. Winnebago needs to up their game with quality control.
Good Gravy & Biscuits! Do you mean Win has actually brought back the Oven Josh? Hallelujah!!!! They should make a 3 burner oven combo a option AND make a two burner stove top the norm. Looks like you're at the Win factory, how about a Win towable factory tour? Please!
Well turns out I just wasn't properly educated on the product. I don't claim to get it perfect. I guess they've ALWAYS had oven prep. I feel badly I missed that for so long on a number of videos
@@JoshtheRVNerd Josh, I seem to remember a few years ago when Win. eliminated the oven that they said that their dealers could easily retrofit a oven in the space. My only concern would be I would want to add heat insulation on the bottom with the electrical center directly under it. My other concern now is there has been a rash of BAL NXG frames cracking at and near the huckbolts. I have seen on the forums that it's happening on Micro Minnies, Minnies and Forest River products. To their credit I am also seeing that BAL will repair even out of the normal time period. I would guess they're avoiding repercussions from the NHSA
This is adorable in so many ways for one person. I like the light decor. I'm okay with the dinette. The cargo capacity is great. The interior & exterior storage is fantastic. But if I was designing it for my needs I'd move the backdoor forward enough to have a closet where that little window is. I'd make the bathroom a huge wet bath because the toilet & shower are too crowded as is.
Very well said. That bathroom is useless as is. I dont care how tiny you are you cant use that toilet. Making it all a wet bath would allow one to use the toilet. The foldout sink is fine. I never ever use the shower in my trailer but i use the toilet a LOT! I shower at the shower building in the campground but I am too old to go to the outhouse 3 x every nite. If they made this a full 8 ft wide you would have enough room in bath.
- 2-burner, front-back stovetop for more countertop space. The 3rd burner is basically useless when using normal sized pans, anyways. - Very glad they lowered the GVWR with those lighter axles. Our 1808FBS had x2 3,500lbs axles. 7k GVWR was overkill. **PS: The toilet installation angle seems to be inconsistent. The toilet was pivoted at an angle towards the shower in other 1720FBs that I've seen, making the seated position roomier, but some 1720FB toilets are installed straight out from the wall like this one that you showcased. The floorplan on Winnebago's website also indicates that it's supposed to be installed at an angle.
If you've ever had to break on a down hill on snow or ice, as you slowly slipped closer and closer to a drop of ,good tire tred and grip is something to appreciate.
WOW! great camper! I would change the dinette to a fold out sofa, remove the rear ladder so I could mount my grill holder and put a window in the front. Very cool camper though!
Love your videos!!! We rented one of these a while back, and it is absolutely one of the most uncomfortable RVs we've been in. Nothing in it seems right, everything is in an awkward place, and when you are in it, you want nothing more than to get out of it. Your video does not do justice to how small the restroom is, it makes me wonder who designed it, and whom exactly they had in mind using it. To be fair, I am 6'5", but there is three inches of space between the front of the commode and the door; you have to literally crap with one let in the shower and the other in the kitchen.
These Winnebago Micro’s are really nice!! I’m torn between the FLX’s and a Geo Pro. Could you possibly do an overview of a Micro Minnie 2100BH FLX in the future? Thanks for the in depth reviews and all the educational content. We all really appreciate it!!!
Very nice for the size. It is above the max weight limit for my truck but if weight wasn't an issue it checks the boxes. I would get an oven & keep the dinette. Using a table or TV trays you couldn't move in the space available. Love all the storage
Instead of the dinette, give me a shallow table to use as a workspace and computer desk with a solid wood top that I can mount my gear onto it for safe travels. Could even build it out as part of the entertainment center with more storage underneath. I throw a chair of my choice in and boom. Perfect bachelor and dog remote worker camper. And under 5,000lbs? Panther (TownCar/CrownVic) towable!
What I would like to add in every RV out there in place of the small ovens most come with, how about replacing those with a air frying oven? You know the kind that looks like a large toaster oven. Would be electric but would take the same amount of space and would give you the option of broiling, baking, and air fry all in one. A lot more useful than the ovens that come with them that most people don't use anyway...
I wish they would have kept the bathroom sink like the 1708FB. Then it would be perfect. Loved watching the video, way better than the RV show girls who apparently know nothing about the camper they're showing, lol. Kept me interested and laughing.
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV ,.🤣, a lot of RV videos are shot at RV shows, and they use young women to show the camper. It's obvious that they were hired to act like Vanna White to show the features of the camper. But it's just tacky to me, lol.
I could so live in this one with the phenomenal amount of storage. I do prefer the jackknife sofa, but I think the dinette is better with the placement of the TV.
...that's actually a good point -- the TV vs dinette I would love to see this with even a cheap, basic flip-up murphy bed up front. Would that make sense to you?
Love this Floorplan the storage is great. I would opt for a couch if possible & change out the fans. It is really tight around the toilet. Could you possibly switch out with a porcelain instead. I'd love to see how much this model is going to be priced. As always, thanks for the videos & laughs.
Apologies - I must not've been clear Winnebago doesn't offer an oven option They build the RV capable of accepting an oven One can be added... _aftermarket_ Sorry if I wasn't clear
I did like this, I love all the features and I really like the jackknife floating table idea! I wonder is that the sort of conversion that you guys are able, most places or able, to do there on site? or how would one go about seeing a smaller trailer with the dinette converted into a jackknife sofa floating table area? In my way of thinking that opens up all that into living space. More comfortable versatile living space. 😊 Thanks Josh is always love watching your work. 😊
Glad to see another small no slide camper. This has some nice touches and some that make me scratch my head. Like the dinette having two knee knocker posts so close together. Can’t imagine one person being comfortable let alone two. I will compare this with the ember 173mrb when the review comes out.
Does this come with the break hookup. Not sure I saw it. I may have missed it. I like this one. Has everything I’m looking for. I definitely prefer to have an oven.
Hey Josh, do you know if the Micro Minnie's are prepped for an inverter and what all that entails? I'm looking at a 1720fb and want to set it up for some light boon docking, but curious what Winnebego means when the say inverter prepped. Keep up all the videos. You do great reviews and honest industry updates. I always check your channel when looking at different models.
JUST had a new 2024 micro minnie video go live today: ua-cam.com/video/ahx1jTfRqrs/v-deo.html I can't recall but I THINK in that I state they're now inverter prepping and touch on some of it
Hey Josh! We love your videos! We also love the tandem axle Mini 1720. Is there an option on this tandem axle series that has a Murphy bed instead of the east/west bed? Thank you and keep up the great work!
Other than the plastic toilet and Dollar Store 4” fart fan it seems very well built with quality standard features👍and yes, my back would love a sofa option to replace the uncomfortable dinette😂
Dude I feel like I’ve been complaining on your page about not having a camper like this for years. I’ve been waiting for an overbuilt, small camper that doesn’t compromise features and quality. This time in 2021, you’d have to go for higher end/niche products for something like this.
Sounds like you need to go in that thing and close up the windows and take a well deserved nap! 😊 This is a nice job design.. I agree with the sofa and two burner stove options. This is a good one for a solo traveler.
🤣🤣🤣Too funny. Only problem is hubby is 6'6". Really like the size. Might be able to tow with my Tacoma. Any suggestions on something which might fit better? We would like the recliners instead of the dinette.
Just checked at www.bishs.com/rv-search?stocknumber=1720fb We don't seem to have any of this new model in quite yet. Our local teams can assist with figures. Not being in sales I don't have pricing files. Apologies -- sometimes that happens with early access footage
@@JoshtheRVNerd Sorry about that. I was talking about the one with two bunks and a dinette that turned into a bed. Just thinking of modifications I could make.
Most urban building codes will require a 30-36" wide area where the toilet is installed. So squeezing one in like the 17" seat on a cheap airliner...Not so good.
I noticed that the microwave looked like a convection oven so there ya go. also personally I like the 1808FBS with the sofa option. I don't like where the entertainment/TV is. Anyway, thanks nerd :)
I’ve noticed more 2 burner stovetops and, personally, on smaller “couple” trailers, YES, do it. I’d love to see a survey to see how many RV owners use 3 burners at a time, I know I never would. Personally, I prefer a dinette over a sofa or recliners. And why the heck does that dinette table stick out into the “aisle” so much?
Having a 2 burner, I miss having 3. Spaghetti noodles in the front, sauce on one of the back burners, along with, say a pan of cut up carrots and cauliflower in butter and garlic…. But then I’m a weirdo who would also use a propane oven but not a microwave.
Jack knife sofa, make that rear counter/ cabinet thing smaller so the bath could be bigger with a dedicated sink and arm room! The one in the shower is strange. I'd have to stand in the shower to brush my teeth? 🤨 Two burner stove, so more counter space and this could be a great floor plan for couples. Thanks Uncle Josh!
This one is so close to perfect I'm tempted to make an offer even though my plan is to buy in the fall. LOL! (Are you aware your link goes to a "we're sorry..." page?) I definitely prefer the dinette over a sofa. TBH, I think sofas are dumb in small trailers. I prefer a table where I can sit and eat, or work on projects on a rainy day. And I don't want a floating table out in the walkway. If I want to stretch out, I'll go lay on the bed. The GVWR is 400 lbs over 80% for my truck, but still within the max for my truck. But the CCC is so high that I could realistically subtract 400 lbs from the cargo and still be within the limit I want to maintain and still have plenty of CCC. OTOH, the hitch weight is so high that I couldn't put much in my truck other than me and maybe some light-weight items, especially if I add a sway system or weight distribution hitch. (See how I'm talking myself out of being tempted? LOL) But overall, I really like this unit. I don't care that the toilet is cramped, I don't spend much time sitting there anyway. I love all that storage and the CCC. I'd prefer an oven, but it isn't the end of the world to not have one. I also appreciate that this one doesn't have those brush-guard rails around the bottom that seems to be getting popular lately. Hasn't anyone considered what it would be like to try to put skirting around the bottom with those on there, when you're cold weather camping? LOL! And finally, this unit is nice looking. It would look good behind my black truck. LOL
I've been getting a lot of advanced and early footage. I'm not sure these are even making landfall yet. That link will start populating once units start rolling in
I wonder why this camper doesn't have the fold/slide out steps under the entry door? Has Winnebago changed the entry step method for all of the Micro Minnie models or just this one?
I think they could lose the rear window and put a wardrobe on top of the lower cabinets. It would not be real large but would be able to hold several days of hangables for a couple. We swapped out the 4" fart fan in our Micro Minnie 2106FBS for a Vortex insert. It was a bit more work that I planned as I had to drill out the rivets holding the cross member from the roof. It wasn't a show stopper but meant I couldn't do it as a rainy day project. It was worth doing. The price was lower than the Maxxair and we didn't have to deal with removing then replacing all of the perfectly good sealant on a fairly new trailer. I wish more companies would go with the BAL frames.
Nice little camper. I would classify it as a "me and the dog" size. Does have some interesting features. One grip with most of the campers. Why can't someone design or put a better TV antenna on these campers? Granted, we don't watch a lot of TV, but would be nice to get the weather and news.
The only thing I want to do is put a full true Queen in their mattress and definitely put the oven stove combo swap out the fridge for the other fridge that you said in otherwise everything else is perfect
@@JoshtheRVNerd not quite sure how that would affect outside storage but as that trailer is currenty configure there is sleeping for 3 and seating for 2 unless somebody sits on the bed
Not in this model but I wondered about that. I think a murphy/sofa combo up front could be ideal for this camper on a rainy day - especially considering the TV setup
I have looked at this model before but the very small dinette in my opinion makes it look like an after thought. Now a sofa - love seat would possibly change my mind it would at least give me a reason to consider this trailer. It appears Winnebago has changed their outside skin on this and possibly ther models. It’s not smooth and shinny like they had been but I am not sure when or if they changed it’s skin’s texture. But I have noticed dirt seems to cling to the exterior more as of late models. There is a fiberglass type texture on the exterior now and I noticed it in your video even. It seems like the shower could have been made smaller by a bit to allow for a bit more room around its toilet. I know some people would complain about the shower if smaller but we are talking about possibly 5” less. In 1976 my wife and I purchased a 28 foot Holiday Rambler travel trailer- it had 4 roof vents but in each one as standard equipment- each one had a very nice fan if I recall the blade size was 7 inches and they had very heavy duty motors. If we had all 4 turned on it provided a very nice breeze around its interior instead of those very cheap fans - they are referred to as some that your lucky if they last a month before they start to rattle and soon after die. I also like the larger model with the twin beds. But their much more expensive and a bit to large for what we would want one for. BtW Winnebago used to refer to their smooth exteriors as having a boat like finish that could be waxed and buffed to bring the shine back. I am sorry for such a long comment I have a brain tumor and I am having confusion issues. Thank You - I might have to delete it latter
I'm not sure a full on theater sofa would work in here as they're larger and would eat up the small space quickly. But a jack knife sofa can be minimal and might actually "open it up" a little bit Please don't ever apologies for big comments! Just write what's on your mind. You're not a bother I'm sorry to hear of your medical issues & hope it's something you're able to heal thru
another cool one as always, after seeing so many i quit commenting on changes i would make for the most part, there is already another out there that has it. if look around long enough could probably find one almost exact to ones floorplan or even slightly different.... like cars, 5 look identical, entirely different inside, but yet the same... blah blah you know,.... love seeing it all regardless... since i am dedicated fan you should arrange to have a class c or something a car can tow sent to me for review for rest of my life to see how it lasts lol.... do daily review no matter what in exchange for free unit hehhe.... i will agree can never sell or trade it, must use until falls apart and review until the last day hehe, oh it sitting there in driveway today covered in leaves, holding up well...... lol..... camping today... hot ass sun, nice in here though. etc.... and on the fire exit issue.... well, with some of them, not this one per se, but some, until they make wall stronger than they do now, if my trailer catches on fire i probably will not need a window, just do some combination of bruce lee and the kool-aid man and just go through the wall to get out..... these things are not exactly built out of concrete after all.... and as fast as they go up in flames once they do get caught on fire, it will be totalled anyway, a human sized hole in the wall wont matter in the least.
Even if you feel like a broken record I encourage people to keep sharing how they feel. MFGs cannot make a lot of changes on the fly and won't change because of ONE view point But if they start seeing and hearing the same thing repeatedly and if folks start agreeing, then they're more likely to make some updates
@@JoshtheRVNerd Mom was more of a ear puller. I grew up in the generation of the "wood shed" A good spanking never hurt anyone, I can think of some Politicians that seriously need one!🤣
As a single man, I like this trailer. But the location and tight quarters for the toilet is a deal breaker. As with a majority of people, I am a right-handed wiper, and this just would not be good. Winnebago should already know this, it’s demographic basics.
Is it possible to trick this out with as much Solar/lithium/ inverter as an FLX? How about adding a shower miser? Are those all possible to add after production? Why don’t they make THIS model in FLX?!? I’d buy it.
Pretty sure they offer this in FLX. I could be mistaken. If not they probably just havent had the opportunity to do so YET I don't think the juice would be worth the squeeze to try to retrofit the FLX package onto this as it changes some of base electrical systems
*Hey everybody - based on the comments I'm reading I seem to not have been clear the oven prep in this RV. Winnebago does not offer an oven option. An oven can be added AFTERMARKET however at a dealership or if you have the know-how. Sorry for the confusion!*
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We just took delivery of 1720tb 2 weeks ago. Took it on It's first outing this past weekend. We tow with a 2023 Ford Ranger with the tow package. It does tow real well even with a 25 mph crosswind. The only real drawback is the small bathroom, but we knew that. The 12v fridge is huge and works really well. Very happy so far.
Man THANK YOU for sharing this. It's the kind of stuff I suspected and love seeing confirmation -- especially in those winds!
please keep us posted!
Heng's Vortex fan is definitely the way to go. Installed two in our Micro Minnie and then swapped them over to our Voyage when we upgraded. So easy to install and great to not have to mess with anything on the roof.
I'm going to keep mentioning those things until everybody realizes they're the smartest way to go
Smaller... Lighter... No slide, no bunk, SolidStep™ as a standard feature, dry bath... Pretty much EXACTLY what I've been looking for! Yippee!!!
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I would absolutely prefer this with a sofa. If the divider was removed from that stand by the bed you could probably fit a pair of tv trays in it. As it is I would probably just go with the 1808FBS with the sofa in the slide. That said this floorplan does lend itself well towards a daybed type setup. If you got some of those wedge shaped pillows they make for sitting up in bed you could have a pretty comfortable rainy day lounge space up against the front wall.
Edit: I really like the bathroom setup with the larger square shower and the kitchen and storage situation is remarkably good for such a small camper. I think I prefer this layout if it had a sofa to the 1808FBS. The 1720fb has a little more counter space and I feel like the cabinets over the dinette make for a decent panty space without reducing countertop real estate. Personally I've never had a problem with the idea of doing hand washing and tooth brushing at the kitchen sink in a small camper and I would rather have the larger rectangular shower than an a redundant sink crammed into a small bathroom.
Edit 2: 1200~ pounds is very respectable for something this size.
TV trays is a good idea.. though with a sofa you MIGHT be able to store them under the couch!
@@JoshtheRVNerd In our old 2106FBS that would not have worked due to the wheel well taking up most of the space. A better solution is to leave some space between the back of the sofa and wall.
The "Brief" joke is in a class of it's own, and I am bothered by the fact I am really laughing at it quite so much.
A dad's work is never done!
Instead of dinette, put two swivel chairs. Move the microwave to below the three burners. Make above stove, storage. And would like a two burner stove. Nice little camper
I kinda like that!
@@JoshtheRVNerd - I agree with the idea of two swivel chairs!
Just bought one of these beauties today, can't wait to go out next summer to have some fun .
Hope you enjoy it!
The Wife and I have been waiting for this video ❤
Love the Micro Minnie’s
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Thank You for the Laughs
My pleasure! :)
I love little campers. I love when companies, especially legacy companies like Winnebago, constantly rethink their designs to cram more into the smaller spaces it makes me really wonder if I really need that larger trailer or 5th-wheel. I don't mind the smaller sized almost everything, because that creates room for more of everything else; like the capacity for a true queen sized mattress, storage, etc.
I'd usually wish for a more regular sized oven. But they include a convection/microwave unit. You can still roast a chicken, beef roast, or small turkey, or bake bread, cakes, and cookies, in a unit that size, with small adjustments is recipe and/or technique. I know...I have. If it was just a microwave that would be an instant thumbs down. It isn't. And don't forget folks, a convection oven is also a big air fryer. Three burner cooktop...nice. I don't usually care for single basin sinks. But, they give you a good sized one you can actually wash pots and pans in instead of a tiny one. And they include the counter extension that gives you a space for a dish pan when washing up.
Normally, I'd complain about not having a true extractor fan. Not here. Upgrading to full sized fans works here because of the small size. (There's no excuse for large trailers and 5th-wheel, though.) I think I'd leave the dinette as is and use the bed as a pseudo-couch. The tiny sink in the bathroom is ok. Again space is saved for other things. BIG pass through storage; bigger than many larger trailers.
Solar option is great, Josh. But, is there an option for more solar capacity, extra batteries, and 12V compressor fridge? That might just make this model nigh perfect.
This is my question as well.
They offer these in an FLX edition which will increase the solar, improve the A/C to a more energy efficient unit, add a large inverter, and a big battery/charger system
@@JoshtheRVNerd the closest Bish’s to me is Cold Water Creek! I’m going to give your team a call 😃
@@JoshtheRVNerd Excellent. The FLX sounds awesome. Also, someone told me yesterday that Dometic is now producing A/C-heatpump units that run on 12VDC for the RV and yacht world. This would require sacrificing some storage to battery space (due to all of us having to obey the laws of physics....except me, of course ;p ).
All of the overhead cabinets are impressive.
They really didn't waste anything in this one
I agree on the stove top. Unless you have really small pans you can’t fit three pans on that stove. With a sofa you lose the storage under the dinette. I have a 2108fbs and I like that floor plan. With no range hood a high volume fan is necessary. The fire alarm goes off when you’re cooking your burger. Winnebago supposedly has a good reputation for quality but you couldn’t tell with my trailer. It’s less than 2 months old with a couple of serious problems. When full timing, loss of use can get really expensive. Winnebago needs to up their game with quality control.
I really like the camper, it’s perfect for me. I’m okay with the dinette and love the rear window.
TY Dovie
Good Gravy & Biscuits! Do you mean Win has actually brought back the Oven Josh? Hallelujah!!!! They should make a 3 burner oven combo a option AND make a two burner stove top the norm. Looks like you're at the Win factory, how about a Win towable factory tour? Please!
Well turns out I just wasn't properly educated on the product. I don't claim to get it perfect. I guess they've ALWAYS had oven prep. I feel badly I missed that for so long on a number of videos
@@JoshtheRVNerd Josh, I seem to remember a few years ago when Win. eliminated the oven that they said that their dealers could easily retrofit a oven in the space. My only concern would be I would want to add heat insulation on the bottom with the electrical center directly under it.
My other concern now is there has been a rash of BAL NXG frames cracking at and near the huckbolts. I have seen on the forums that it's happening on Micro Minnies, Minnies and Forest River products. To their credit I am also seeing that BAL will repair even out of the normal time period. I would guess they're avoiding repercussions from the NHSA
I forgot to add it's amazing the product knowledge that you do have...I don't see how you can keep the numeric, alphabet soup of models straight!
Thanks Nerd! My wife always tells me that I binge watch you because I’m a fan boy and I don’t think I can disagree with her.
Tell her to go look in the mirror and realize one thing: You just have great taste.
@@JoshtheRVNerd 🤣 absolutely!
This is adorable in so many ways for one person. I like the light decor.
I'm okay with the dinette. The cargo capacity is great. The interior & exterior storage is fantastic.
But if I was designing it for my needs I'd move the backdoor forward enough to have a closet where that little window is. I'd make the bathroom a huge wet bath because the toilet & shower are too crowded as is.
Thank you! 🤗
Very well said. That bathroom is useless as is. I dont care how tiny you are you cant use that toilet. Making it all a wet bath would allow one to use the toilet. The foldout sink is fine.
I never ever use the shower in my trailer but i use the toilet a LOT! I shower at the shower building in the campground but I am too old to go to the outhouse 3 x every nite.
If they made this a full 8 ft wide you would have enough room in bath.
doing a great job josh... Wish they still made 5th wheels some of the older ones I found have great floor plans.
Perhaps one day!
- 2-burner, front-back stovetop for more countertop space. The 3rd burner is basically useless when using normal sized pans, anyways.
- Very glad they lowered the GVWR with those lighter axles. Our 1808FBS had x2 3,500lbs axles. 7k GVWR was overkill.
**PS: The toilet installation angle seems to be inconsistent. The toilet was pivoted at an angle towards the shower in other 1720FBs that I've seen, making the seated position roomier, but some 1720FB toilets are installed straight out from the wall like this one that you showcased. The floorplan on Winnebago's website also indicates that it's supposed to be installed at an angle.
Ty for insight on the toilet. Will let Mr factory guys know about that
If you've ever had to break on a down hill on snow or ice, as you slowly slipped closer and closer to a drop of ,good tire tred and grip is something to appreciate.
That's where ABS is really handy as well. I wish more RVs had it
WOW! great camper! I would change the dinette to a fold out sofa, remove the rear ladder so I could mount my grill holder and put a window in the front. Very cool camper though!
Sounds great!
Great job on the review. Very informative.
Much appreciated!
I love my 2108FBS and it’s towable with my 2020 Tacoma!!
good pairing!
I’ve got that model on my short list! How do you like the handling and build quality?
Can you get to the bathroom with the slide in?
@@laurieat383 yeah you can. I have video showing you here: ua-cam.com/video/ROEsawk5udM/v-deo.html
@@JoshtheRVNerd I was in one with the slide closed and no I couldn’t which is why I purchased the 1720.
❤❤❤I loved this video of the camper. My husband and I are looking for a camper.
Thank you for watching!
Well done Winnebago! This will be on my short list when I am ready to upsize!
Hope you enjoy it!
I really like the cabinets! The color & handles are nice. The Azdel, fridge & solar are a +.
Glad you like them!
Decrease that sink by 25-50% for more workspace. Agree, if no oven go dual burner. Bit I'd like the full oven with a smaller sink.
I thought about that but also thought about some kind of heavy duty sink cover that could double as work space
Love your videos!!! We rented one of these a while back, and it is absolutely one of the most uncomfortable RVs we've been in. Nothing in it seems right, everything is in an awkward place, and when you are in it, you want nothing more than to get out of it. Your video does not do justice to how small the restroom is, it makes me wonder who designed it, and whom exactly they had in mind using it. To be fair, I am 6'5", but there is three inches of space between the front of the commode and the door; you have to literally crap with one let in the shower and the other in the kitchen.
This is great feedback. Ty
These Winnebago Micro’s are really nice!! I’m torn between the FLX’s and a Geo Pro. Could you possibly do an overview of a Micro Minnie 2100BH FLX in the future?
Thanks for the in depth reviews and all the educational content. We all really appreciate it!!!
I'll keep an eye out for one. What I have on file is dated for sure
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you!!!
Very nice for the size. It is above the max weight limit for my truck but if weight wasn't an issue it checks the boxes. I would get an oven & keep the dinette. Using a table or TV trays you couldn't move in the space available. Love all the storage
TY Julia! It's great you know your vehicle's safety limits
Are you sure about the oven option? Win. isn't showing it on their website, yet anyway?
Just about the closest RV to what I'm looking for‼️
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I agree with the jackknife sofa and stand alone table.
Instead of the dinette, give me a shallow table to use as a workspace and computer desk with a solid wood top that I can mount my gear onto it for safe travels. Could even build it out as part of the entertainment center with more storage underneath. I throw a chair of my choice in and boom. Perfect bachelor and dog remote worker camper. And under 5,000lbs? Panther (TownCar/CrownVic) towable!
A shelf with chairs is an interesting idea...
...it is amazing how the E/Geo-Pro 19FD is basically the same size, but seem SO much bigger...
Even a small slide makes a huge difference
What I would like to add in every RV out there in place of the small ovens most come with, how about replacing those with a air frying oven? You know the kind that looks like a large toaster oven. Would be electric but would take the same amount of space and would give you the option of broiling, baking, and air fry all in one. A lot more useful than the ovens that come with them that most people don't use anyway...
Heartland is doing that actually!
I wish they would have kept the bathroom sink like the 1708FB. Then it would be perfect. Loved watching the video, way better than the RV show girls who apparently know nothing about the camper they're showing, lol. Kept me interested and laughing.
No idea who the RV show girls are but TY for watching! :)
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV ,.🤣, a lot of RV videos are shot at RV shows, and they use young women to show the camper. It's obvious that they were hired to act like Vanna White to show the features of the camper. But it's just tacky to me, lol.
Great job as always Josh, I"d still take the 1708 for bathroom storage and medicine cabinet.
I don't know for sure but I suspect this might retire the 1708.. not sure of their plans
The Winnebago website says “ Dealer Stock Only” for the 1708, so I suspect @Josh the RV Nerd is right. She’s on the way out.
@@scottsmith5095 1720 replacing her
@@JoshtheRVNerd Exactly what happened.
I could so live in this one with the phenomenal amount of storage. I do prefer the jackknife sofa, but I think the dinette is better with the placement of the TV.
...that's actually a good point -- the TV vs dinette
I would love to see this with even a cheap, basic flip-up murphy bed up front. Would that make sense to you?
@@JoshtheRVNerd That would be ok too. Im more partial to the bendy-bed behind a sofa.
Love this Floorplan the storage is great. I would opt for a couch if possible & change out the fans. It is really tight around the toilet. Could you possibly switch out with a porcelain instead. I'd love to see how much this model is going to be priced. As always, thanks for the videos & laughs.
Yes, I'd also like to know the price, it's not available in the description.
My pleasure, Michelle :)
Oven & sofa would be my preferred build.
Apologies - I must not've been clear
Winnebago doesn't offer an oven option
They build the RV capable of accepting an oven
One can be added... _aftermarket_
Sorry if I wasn't clear
Great unit and like you said almost one of a kind. Quick question what is in the cabinet above the tv? Kinda looked like a hotel safe.
Stereo unit
I did like this, I love all the features and I really like the jackknife floating table idea! I wonder is that the sort of conversion that you guys are able, most places or able, to do there on site? or how would one go about seeing a smaller trailer with the dinette converted into a jackknife sofa floating table area? In my way of thinking that opens up all that into living space. More comfortable versatile living space. 😊
Thanks Josh is always love watching your work. 😊
POSSIBLY.. we'd have to see what all is where. Sometimes MFGs hide stuff under dinettes that aren't readily obvious
Glad to see another small no slide camper. This has some nice touches and some that make me scratch my head. Like the dinette having two knee knocker posts so close together. Can’t imagine one person being comfortable let alone two. I will compare this with the ember 173mrb when the review comes out.
173MRB video is done and will be rolling out!!
Yeah, tiny camper isn't my cup of tea 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍 it's right for someone though😊😊
Same buddy
It’s a cute little trailer, I would swap out the dinette for a couch & I could pull it with my Tacoma TRD.
Sofa would be really nice there I think. I'd put a pillow up against the bed area and makeshift a sort of lounger out of it
This thing is pretty cool. 😁
It's dynamite in a small package :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd I like your videos Josh keep up the good work bud!
Does this come with the break hookup. Not sure I saw it. I may have missed it. I like this one. Has everything I’m looking for. I definitely prefer to have an oven.
Sorry - break hookups? Could you clarify perhaps?
The RV has breaks if that's what you're asking
Any trailer over 2,500lbs is required to have brakes
Say no more this is fantastic
I was able to put a “full XL” in my MM 2225RL, so the 7’ body is wide enough for a full queen.
👍🏻 TY
Hey Josh, do you know if the Micro Minnie's are prepped for an inverter and what all that entails? I'm looking at a 1720fb and want to set it up for some light boon docking, but curious what Winnebego means when the say inverter prepped. Keep up all the videos. You do great reviews and honest industry updates. I always check your channel when looking at different models.
JUST had a new 2024 micro minnie video go live today: ua-cam.com/video/ahx1jTfRqrs/v-deo.html
I can't recall but I THINK in that I state they're now inverter prepping and touch on some of it
Hey Josh! We love your videos! We also love the tandem axle Mini 1720. Is there an option on this tandem axle series that has a Murphy bed instead of the east/west bed? Thank you and keep up the great work!
Not that I know of but I like that idea
Other than the plastic toilet and Dollar Store 4” fart fan it seems very well built with quality standard features👍and yes, my back would love a sofa option to replace the uncomfortable dinette😂
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How do you get the water heater going on this camper?
Great stuff 👍 thanks for sharing. ✌ GOD bless America 🇺🇲
My pleasure. TY :)
Dude I feel like I’ve been complaining on your page about not having a camper like this for years. I’ve been waiting for an overbuilt, small camper that doesn’t compromise features and quality. This time in 2021, you’d have to go for higher end/niche products for something like this.
And keep voicing that opinion! Doesn't bother me. That's how MFGs know they have a need to fulfill sometimes!
Sounds like you need to go in that thing and close up the windows and take a well deserved nap! 😊
This is a nice job design.. I agree with the sofa and two burner stove options. This is a good one for a solo traveler.
Funny story.. I got my start in this business because I was hired to replace a guy they caught sleeping in the campers.
@@JoshtheRVNerd really? 🤣
🤣🤣🤣Too funny. Only problem is hubby is 6'6". Really like the size. Might be able to tow with my Tacoma. Any suggestions on something which might fit better? We would like the recliners instead of the dinette.
Without hard tow ratings in the truck I am not sure what to suggest that may fit him as well
I would much prefer a sofa and floating table. Very much.
Another great job by Uncle.
Thanks again!
I like everything about this accept the east/west bed. I really prefer a north /south bed like the KZ sportsman 160QB
Yeah I figured that'd be the major hangup on this one
This is beautiful. How much$$$
Just checked at www.bishs.com/rv-search?stocknumber=1720fb
We don't seem to have any of this new model in quite yet. Our local teams can assist with figures. Not being in sales I don't have pricing files. Apologies -- sometimes that happens with early access footage
Yes jack knife sofa with cup holders in arm rest with those trays that fit into them
Thx David
The back bed would be a great place for a two seat dinette and a desk on the other side. Where the dinette sits could be a bed.
Could you clarify? This rv doesn’t have a rear bed
@@JoshtheRVNerd I was talking about the one with twin beds and the dinette that turns into a bed.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Sorry about that. I was talking about the one with two bunks and a dinette that turned into a bed. Just thinking of modifications I could make.
Most urban building codes will require a 30-36" wide area where the toilet is installed. So squeezing one in like the 17" seat on a cheap airliner...Not so good.
I'd prefer a large wet bath than this. The toilet & shower are cramped.
Great review, do you know how much weight the rear hitch will take? Was hoping to use it for a dirt bike carrier, 250-300lbs
There will be a sticker right on at the tells you. I think these are 250.
Thanks NURRD! 😅great video. The DO need a jack knife sofa instead of table. I needa place to prop up my dogs ! 😊
Took me a sec - thought you were talking about actual dogs for a sec lol 🤦🏻♂️
@@JoshtheRVNerd oh them too! 😆
I noticed that the microwave looked like a convection oven so there ya go. also personally I like the 1808FBS with the sofa option. I don't like where the entertainment/TV is. Anyway, thanks nerd :)
Josh does your family own a RV? If so what did you choose personally?
Not currently but when I was able to camp more I was usually in something basic like this one ua-cam.com/video/LPFosjQJ2N4/v-deo.html
Thank you for sharing
My pleasure
I like it perfect for single and a pet ❤❤❤❤😊
Kinda how I felt. Greta single person camper. Very cozy for couples
I like the small ones like this. The bathroom space is a bit too small for me here. I would like a couch over the table in ones like this.
Yeah bath is small but I think that goes with the territory with a 7ft wide camper
I’ve noticed more 2 burner stovetops and, personally, on smaller “couple” trailers, YES, do it. I’d love to see a survey to see how many RV owners use 3 burners at a time, I know I never would. Personally, I prefer a dinette over a sofa or recliners. And why the heck does that dinette table stick out into the “aisle” so much?
Lot of people don't realize not all 3 burners have the same output. Typically only the front one can even boil water
@@JoshtheRVNerd this is true but still…
Having a 2 burner, I miss having 3. Spaghetti noodles in the front, sauce on one of the back burners, along with, say a pan of cut up carrots and cauliflower in butter and garlic…. But then I’m a weirdo who would also use a propane oven but not a microwave.
@@JeffinTD it’s a personal preference
@@petertarantelli Agreed. Totally depends on how you camp, how you cook, and personal preferences.
Jack knife sofa, make that rear counter/ cabinet thing smaller so the bath could be bigger with a dedicated sink and arm room! The one in the shower is strange. I'd have to stand in the shower to brush my teeth? 🤨 Two burner stove, so more counter space and this could be a great floor plan for couples. Thanks Uncle Josh!
Thx Tim. I like bath idea
Like it but would like it
More with the option of a Murphy bed and a dineofa. That brief joke is hilarious.
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This one is so close to perfect I'm tempted to make an offer even though my plan is to buy in the fall. LOL! (Are you aware your link goes to a "we're sorry..." page?) I definitely prefer the dinette over a sofa. TBH, I think sofas are dumb in small trailers. I prefer a table where I can sit and eat, or work on projects on a rainy day. And I don't want a floating table out in the walkway. If I want to stretch out, I'll go lay on the bed. The GVWR is 400 lbs over 80% for my truck, but still within the max for my truck. But the CCC is so high that I could realistically subtract 400 lbs from the cargo and still be within the limit I want to maintain and still have plenty of CCC. OTOH, the hitch weight is so high that I couldn't put much in my truck other than me and maybe some light-weight items, especially if I add a sway system or weight distribution hitch. (See how I'm talking myself out of being tempted? LOL) But overall, I really like this unit. I don't care that the toilet is cramped, I don't spend much time sitting there anyway. I love all that storage and the CCC. I'd prefer an oven, but it isn't the end of the world to not have one. I also appreciate that this one doesn't have those brush-guard rails around the bottom that seems to be getting popular lately. Hasn't anyone considered what it would be like to try to put skirting around the bottom with those on there, when you're cold weather camping? LOL! And finally, this unit is nice looking. It would look good behind my black truck. LOL
I've been getting a lot of advanced and early footage. I'm not sure these are even making landfall yet. That link will start populating once units start rolling in
REALLY appreciate the head's up though. I've missed them or screwed them up before
@@JoshtheRVNerd ahhh, I see! :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd I purchased mine at the end of February, now if it will just stop snowing so I can bring her home.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Came back to see if there's a price yet...still getting the "We're sorry" message. :'(
I wonder why this camper doesn't have the fold/slide out steps under the entry door? Has Winnebago changed the entry step method for all of the Micro Minnie models or just this one?
Pretty sure they use stable steps on all main entry doors now
I love this and my heart broke when I realized my Ascent can’t pull it.
This is a great upgrade for winnebago
I thought so too!
Definite and very loud YES on a dinofa rather than the dinette!
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Is there any good recommendations for lighter trailers like this with a Murphy bed and the larger bunkhouse?
Something like this maybe? ua-cam.com/video/687GCs1cqLc/v-deo.html
I think they could lose the rear window and put a wardrobe on top of the lower cabinets. It would not be real large but would be able to hold several days of hangables for a couple.
We swapped out the 4" fart fan in our Micro Minnie 2106FBS for a Vortex insert. It was a bit more work that I planned as I had to drill out the rivets holding the cross member from the roof. It wasn't a show stopper but meant I couldn't do it as a rainy day project. It was worth doing. The price was lower than the Maxxair and we didn't have to deal with removing then replacing all of the perfectly good sealant on a fairly new trailer.
I wish more companies would go with the BAL frames.
I think you could install 3-4 of those Heng's fans for the price of one true maxxair install and laugh all the way to the bank
Nice little camper. I would classify it as a "me and the dog" size. Does have some interesting features. One grip with most of the campers. Why can't someone design or put a better TV antenna on these campers? Granted, we don't watch a lot of TV, but would be nice to get the weather and news.
"me and the dog" is a great way of putting it I think. tight quarters for a big dog perhaps
The sink in the shower allows a great water-saving technique. You can wash your produce in the sink while you shower. Work smarter, not harder!
hahahaah
This guy gets it
Mike GETS it!
I need to use it for a year to see how I like it 👌
love your videos ❤
That is a certified WOW!!!!
Nice! :)
Does this come with a 12v frig, one in vid wasnt...TY
Yep!
The only thing I want to do is put a full true Queen in their mattress and definitely put the oven stove combo swap out the fridge for the other fridge that you said in otherwise everything else is perfect
Awesome. TY for watching
that thing needs a murphy bed up front and the jacknife sofa would make sense also
Would you be OK losing some outside storage to gain the murphy bed?
@@JoshtheRVNerd not quite sure how that would affect outside storage but as that trailer is currenty configure there is sleeping for 3 and seating for 2 unless somebody sits on the bed
@@JoshtheRVNerd no. That is another reason I dislike murphy beds.
Love the huge outside storage. I am oddball who actually likes an east west bed.
Nice camper all around... I would prefer oven and sofa though
TY Brad. See pinned comment regarding oven. I must not've been clear about that
How to change out a grommet marker light on a Winnebago FLEX
🎉 nice! BR wall\slide door?
Early riser\ Late riser. 🎉
Not sure how they’d pull off a private bedroom in this one
I wonder if that bed has the Murphy bed option.
Not in this model but I wondered about that. I think a murphy/sofa combo up front could be ideal for this camper on a rainy day - especially considering the TV setup
I have looked at this model before but the very small dinette in my opinion makes it look like an after thought. Now a sofa - love seat would possibly change my mind it would at least give me a reason to consider this trailer. It appears Winnebago has changed their outside skin on this and possibly ther models. It’s not smooth and shinny like they had been but I am not sure when or if they changed it’s skin’s texture. But I have noticed dirt seems to cling to the exterior more as of late models. There is a fiberglass type texture on the exterior now and I noticed it in your video even. It seems like the shower could have been made smaller by a bit to allow for a bit more room around its toilet. I know some people would complain about the shower if smaller but we are talking about possibly 5” less. In 1976 my wife and I purchased a 28 foot Holiday Rambler travel trailer- it had 4 roof vents but in each one as standard equipment- each one had a very nice fan if I recall the blade size was 7 inches and they had very heavy duty motors. If we had all 4 turned on it provided a very nice breeze around its interior instead of those very cheap fans - they are referred to as some that your lucky if they last a month before they start to rattle and soon after die. I also like the larger model with the twin beds. But their much more expensive and a bit to large for what we would want one for. BtW Winnebago used to refer to their smooth exteriors as having a boat like finish that could be waxed and buffed to bring the shine back.
I am sorry for such a long comment I have a brain tumor and I am having confusion issues. Thank You - I might have to delete it latter
I'm not sure a full on theater sofa would work in here as they're larger and would eat up the small space quickly. But a jack knife sofa can be minimal and might actually "open it up" a little bit
Please don't ever apologies for big comments! Just write what's on your mind. You're not a bother
I'm sorry to hear of your medical issues & hope it's something you're able to heal thru
I love your presentations, but the link doesn't bring any results up
This was early access footage. I'm not sure these are even in production and making landfall yet so we likely don't have any in stock to offer
Winnie’s low quality, lower reliability makes Rockwood/Flagstaff a better value on all levels.
another cool one as always, after seeing so many i quit commenting on changes i would make for the most part, there is already another out there that has it. if look around long enough could probably find one almost exact to ones floorplan or even slightly different.... like cars, 5 look identical, entirely different inside, but yet the same... blah blah you know,.... love seeing it all regardless... since i am dedicated fan you should arrange to have a class c or something a car can tow sent to me for review for rest of my life to see how it lasts lol.... do daily review no matter what in exchange for free unit hehhe.... i will agree can never sell or trade it, must use until falls apart and review until the last day hehe, oh it sitting there in driveway today covered in leaves, holding up well...... lol..... camping today... hot ass sun, nice in here though. etc.... and on the fire exit issue.... well, with some of them, not this one per se, but some, until they make wall stronger than they do now, if my trailer catches on fire i probably will not need a window, just do some combination of bruce lee and the kool-aid man and just go through the wall to get out..... these things are not exactly built out of concrete after all.... and as fast as they go up in flames once they do get caught on fire, it will be totalled anyway, a human sized hole in the wall wont matter in the least.
Even if you feel like a broken record I encourage people to keep sharing how they feel. MFGs cannot make a lot of changes on the fly and won't change because of ONE view point
But if they start seeing and hearing the same thing repeatedly and if folks start agreeing, then they're more likely to make some updates
Love Micro Minnie's, BUTT I have my Mother's hips......the tight toilet would be a "no go"🙃 LOVE the HUGE CCC!!!
what the heck? Why'd you take her hips. Give them back. she needs those to walk 😉
Was it revenge for those times she got your nose growing up?
@@JoshtheRVNerd Mom was more of a ear puller. I grew up in the generation of the "wood shed" A good spanking never hurt anyone, I can think of some Politicians that seriously need one!🤣
As a single man, I like this trailer. But the location and tight quarters for the toilet is a deal breaker. As with a majority of people, I am a right-handed wiper, and this just would not be good. Winnebago should already know this, it’s demographic basics.
Fair points. Ty
Is it possible to trick this out with as much Solar/lithium/ inverter as an FLX? How about adding a shower miser? Are those all possible to add after production? Why don’t they make THIS model in FLX?!? I’d buy it.
Pretty sure they offer this in FLX. I could be mistaken. If not they probably just havent had the opportunity to do so YET
I don't think the juice would be worth the squeeze to try to retrofit the FLX package onto this as it changes some of base electrical systems
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you sir, much appreciated!