Jurassic Park was just added to the national film registry by the library of Congress. It now stands next to Citizen Kane, Star Wars and Casablanca. It is now art.
Cristian Martinez YES!!! I had to BEG my Mother to take me to see JP1 as a kid. I was sheltered as a kid, and under the age of 13. She took me at the last minuet to see the movie. We BARELY got to the movie before the start. The opening SCARED my Mother and I could tell she wanted to take me out of the theater after the opening "Raptor opening scene". But the scene with the Brachi made my Mother gasp in AWE😧😍, and she stayed glued to the seat fixated the rest of the film. Leaving, she was no longer griping about the cost of tickets, but PRAISING the film and declaring it 3.50 per ticket worth it! She felt it was going to become a CLASSSIC. She grew up with dinos from the 50's and 60's. The idea that some dinosaurs were fast, related to BIRDS, and did not drag their tails blew her MIND. It is one of my core childhood memories!
What if Wu simply lied to Hammond at just how effective the lysine contingency was? If so he could have given false assurances to Hammond’s investors and would be able to continue to work on his creations if the initial park failed because he could claim plausible deniability.
I'm just going to go with that. That makes far more sense than saying that someone smart enough to clone animals that have been extinct for, a minimum, 65 million years somehow wouldn't know that animals can't produce lysine on their own, anyway.
This seems like something that could come up in the third Jurassic world movie when the governments are wondering how they can deal with dinosaurs on the main land. Some person will bring up the contingency but then a scientist in the proper field will bring up that all animals get lysene from outside sources and that Henry Wu probably lied to make himself look better.
Everyone in Park would have to be either scared of Wu or complete moron, including other genetic engineers who worked for Wu and Harding - who is kind of biologists himself. The knowledge that almost all multicellular animals do not produce lysine and they get enough of it just from natural plant/fungi life is not that obscure among people in biological subjects. Especially know. Either this is just plothole or when author wrote it, the knowledge of lysine biochemistry was much less explored than today. And I lean on the first option.
You'd have thought that someone with Henry Wu's knowledge of genetics and microbiology would have recognized his error, and would have proposed a different "kill switch" for escapee dinosaurs.
why would a person whose only interest was to push science as far as it could be pushed give a fuck about his kill switch working? there is a reason people kept letting him making super dinosaurs... because people thought he could handle them if something bad could happen. he's basically the guy who buys a fake fire extinguisher because he doesn't think he'll ever need it but also it gets everyone else to shut up about it.
i really like the Jurassic Park the game explanation. That game was so well written, it deserved to be the script for JP 3 or another movie! It's perfect and kind of a mix of JP1 and 2. I love it
So... I assume you're a genetically nominal human being who's body doesn't produce the amino-acid lysine? Do you feel the need to supplement your diet with an "antidote" or do you quite simply eat your lysine like every other human since the dawn of time?
TBH this explanation is equally stupid as the contingency itself xD Lysine is essential bio-molecule. Microscopic life in water would quickly scavenge whole supply of lysine from it within short period of time. In real-life amino acids like lysine are added to cell culture media in order to grow them. Waters in Isla Sorna would instantly bloom with nasty microscopic organisms who thrive on lysine and subsequently die with constant supply of new lysine.
The36th She did not put lysine in the water, but a "cure" to the faulty gene. Though that's equally weird, cause you can't change genes like that. Best bet would be a hormone that stimulates lysine production in some gland or something. But eh, yeah... xD
@@RedDeadSakharine Nope.There is NO DIFFERENCE between most types of hormones and lysine. Both are small organic compounds which has to be absorbed by digestive system of animal in order to reach blood stream and tissues and then either be absorbed by cells via proper receptors associated with lipid vesicles or membrane canals (lysine) or just attach to receptor and generate specific cellular signal. Hormones also are not designed by nature to sustain acidic environment of digestive system or even be taken from outside environment. Hormones were poor choice of explanation by You. Game is just stupid here. That's all.
Sir, thank you for clarify my ambiguities about the survival of the original dinosaurs back from the Jurassic park. Now I can understand how did Rexy survived so long.
I don't think the lysine contingency was well planned. It could be that Wu didn't know there were lysine enriched plants on the island (and/or) didn't think the animals would leave their enclosures. I used to hink this would work but then I read the JP novel and it all made sense.
It couldn't have been planned or implemented at all. You can't take away something, that wasn't there in the first place. Animals - including humans - can't synthesise lysine to begin with.
I was wondering nonstop about the Lysine Contingency since Fallen Kingdom and wasn't sure if I could settle for Tell Tale's explanation. Thanks for clearing it up.
Thank you, finally a good explanation to what's with the lysine problem. It's a pretty simple, but nevertheless a good explanation. I can't really think of how they could bring up this topic again in JW3. Maybe the plants in california are not as lysine rich and the herbivores die? Sounds rather unlikely, but i can't really think of something else.
A possibility could be to give the dinosaurs an autoimmune disease which would kill them in days unless they got treatment through immunosuppressants given in their diet
"So what's the contingency plan?" "We won't give them an aminoacid they can't naturally produce but can find anywhere because it's in their food." "..." "Wha?"
If I remember correctly, the game didn't have them release lysine into the water supply; it had that scientist develop a cure to the lysine contingency so the dinosaurs would no longer require external sources of lysine to survive. If anything, making sure the groundwater on Isla Nublar would have helped ensure the dinosaurs would stay there as--upon leaving the island--they would start suffering ill effects until they were able to figure out how to counteract the effect and find an adequate source of lysine elsewhere.
The cure would make infinitely more sense in a way as adding that finite amount of lysine before leaving would just have made the dinosaurs die out a few days later than they already woulda. So yea I also think that's what happened in the game.
I don't, there's too many people who combine the lore from both movie and books choosing to pick and choose and mix and match the lore to justify their head cannon.
"People are DYING!!! May you please shut down the system?" Guacamole!!!!! This is (As always) fun and very detailed that you present :) Though if they continue this tactic, it'll be a difficult cycle that science must endure. Wonderful vid you presented again :)
One thing that always confused me about the first movie was treating that as though they could activate it at range and at will or something. Maybe that wasn't the intent of that conversation but it sure felt like 'hey we'll be safe if we push this button to kill!'
What I'd like to know is what happened to the unauthorized breeding. That was also core to the instability of Jurassic Park and led to animals escaping to the mainland. That's hinted at in the first film but seems completely forgotten in Jurassic World which was open far longer and should have had far more problems as a result.
Jurassic World kind of answers this but it never states how it exactly does this. Given that Jurassic World had still been incubating eggs and there is a petting zoo exhibit for younger animals, it's possible that some dinosaurs had been bred instead of being born in exhibits. We know that they can breed via TLW and JP3 and they did have an active ACU implying they had been ontop of things. We don't know when the trackers are implanted but clearly had to be for all ages considering some came from Sorna. Likely breeding was a problem but not as much as it was prior.
It’s explained somewhere that they use more advance forms of birth control to limit the breeding and function like real zoos with SSP to control genetic diversity and numbers.
3:51 Yea like there's any way for the Dinosaurs to get out of the island. You know that any Dinosaur trying to swim would tern back because they need fresh water and food right Gerry? There's no way any of these animals could possibly get of this island. Like could you imagine if they somehow managed to distract us and lead us away from the boat's only for us to be left behind? That would be so unrealistic like a cartoon parody or sth.
There are swimming and flying dinosaurs on the island. What if a dino stowed away one delivery boat. What if someone found a way to smuggle one off the island. What if through corporate espionage another company stole the dino genomes. There are plenty of reasons why there would need to be a contingency plan to keep dinosaurs on the island.
I've always wondered about that, too. What DID happen to the lysine contingency? In The Lost World, Malcolm asks Hammond how the animals survived with the lysine amino acid.
@@BarelloSmith well maybe cause the vegetation might be different from the Sorna environment. And if you remember that there were also lots of vegetation that were poisonous to the dinos and according to Ellie they were there cause Hammond liked them for the park but not because they were healthy for the animals. But that’s my speculation
My dude! I just wanted to say thank you for your theoretical videos on the science of JP and it's predecessors. Dr.Crichton was ahead of his time and I'm just so swamped(in the best of ways) with all of his research through his books and film(Westworld). I love the philosophical and theoretical world and I have him and to some extent views like yours to thank. Much Peace & Love! Jaylien Kay
The lysine contingency and the DX infection are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the massive levels of incompetence that were going on in InGen.
I’ve always wondered about the lysine, but I’ve always forgotten to look it up. Thank you for saving me the effort and for presenting it in your awesome way!
You should make a video on why Isla Nublar looks like a typical tropical island but Isla Sorna looks like it’s in the dry rocky mountains with redwoods everywhere. Then other parts of Isla Sorna looks like a tropical island.
If you haven't made a video on the topic already, I think it would be interesting to hear how the mosasaurus of Jurassic World managed to survive the unspecified months after the fall of the park without being fed. Great vid as always, papa. 👍👍👍
I really hope Wu knew lysine was an essential amino acid and just plain lied to anyone - then again anyone working with genetics and cloning work would know it. I wish this was explained as it feels like an actual big hole in the JP films
it is a big plothole, and I also find the idea that the entire security of the park depends on there never being a power outage for any reason a bit much
I haven't watched the video yet, but plenty of plants, fruits and nuts contain lysine. Surely there are some of those on the island that the herbivores can consume, and from there the carnivores should be able to get it as well?
I have a question how much cows goats and pigs did the park needed to feed the dinosaurs? how much they costed to the park? where did they had them in a farm in the island? Did they breed them in the park? Did they have to deal about the animal cruelty on cows goats and pigs etc? and how they trained the pigs to outspeed the raptors? And how they could remove the carcase from the carnivores enclosure? Would be great to hear those small details if they have them of course you should totally make a video about it cheers :D
I read somewhere that the shark that was used to feed the Mosasaurus in JW was a cloned shark. If you can clone a dinosaur, cloning a goat should be absolutely easy
@@katenaccios I see but then the question is would a clone goats cow etc can be better than a original healthy one? In my opinion it wouldn't be the same and the dinosaur would have lack of who knows vitamins etc?
@@stevenirrizarry4208 if they notice lack of vitamines or something they could just modify their genetic code so that the dinosaurs could have more benefits on eating them. But in Jurassic Park it's often shown that the Ingen workers don't know much about dinos diet and other stuff, like the ill Triceratop
I guess Malcolm was right: Life Finds A Way. That's crazy how they made an antidote in the Jurassic Park game, knowing how dangerous the dinosaurs are if they had escaped to the mainland.
What I've always thought was odd about that conversation is that it seems to be brought up as an immediate solution to the problem at hand. In essence Muldoon is saying "lets stop feeding them and our friends will be safe". But one would assume that it would take awhile, at least days, for such a thing to take effect. And it doesn't seem like feeding the dinos would have been the first priority in that moment of crisis anyway. One would think that it would be a no brainer that they weren't going to go out and feed them lysine right then to keep them all alive. Or...am I missing something?
I always wondered about that myself. Also I never quite understood Hammonds response to it "That's out of the question!". Did he *want* to feed the dinosaurs in this situation? Or did he mean that it wasn't the immediate solution? But even then, it would have been more likely for him to say something along the line of "We can't wait that long!" not something, that made it seem like a bad idea in general...
@Mister Majestic What about the staff that would eventually return? I don't think that they left for several days. Also the conversation would still make no sense. How is waiting for the dinosaurs to starve a plan to a) rescue the people in the park and b) to get the park back running again? It is quite literally the opposite of a plan.
I'd have to imagine it would come up in the Third Jurassic World. The Third Jurassic World looks like its going to be exactly what the Lysine Contingency was meant to stop.
As far as it coming back up I think it could. The buyers from the dino auction may not have been told about the diet and could potentially kill their purchased dino through not knowing they need the lysine.
I doubt that the Lysine Contingency will make another appearance in the series. It has been raised since The Lost World - so it's hardly an open plot point. Plus, I'm skeptical that any new dinosaurs bred for Jurassic World would have had this fail-safe inserted into them, given how it ineffective it was when the first park failed. However, it would be interesting to see if Jurassic World had created any other fail-safes to ensure the animals didn't spread off the island - although it would be difficult to raise those and yet not somehow undermine the premise of Fallen Kingdom.
I'm with others in the comments in that I think Wu bald-faced lied about the whole thing. After all, how would you test it? Lock a specimen up in a room, feed it a Lysine-free diet, and watch it slip into a coma and finally die? Does anyone think Hammond would sanction that? It's also possible Wu just wasn't THAT smart of a geneticist and fully intended for the Lysine Contingency to get tripped, but it never did due to his own incompetence. After all, he was pretty young in the original JP and, while obviously brilliant, probably still had plenty of knowledge gaps. It also doesn't help that Hammond's scientists were likely in blue skies a good chunk of the time and probably didn't completely grasp what they were doing.
Hey man doubt you'll see this you get so manu comments but THANK YOU! I doubt you hear it enough because it cant be said enough man thank you for making these videos I love all your jp(w) videos they are sick af love that someone else loves the franchise and dinosaurs as much as I do keep up the good work man you save me from going nuts love watching your videos man thanks again
If I remember the second novel correctly, the incidents caused by escaped dinosaurs totally stoped after some time. I thought that mean that even trough feeding, the dinosaurs could´t get enough lysine. Clearly I was wrong.
I doubt that it will come up again. Plus, we were told that all the animals were female and could NOT reproduce, but we saw eggs which were laid on both islands. For me the answer is just as Ian Malcom had stated, "Life will find a way" Even if the contingent was in place, lysine is easy to find in nature, for plant eaters, legumes, which there are many species on the islands, is one source. grains and grasses are another. For meat eaters, fish is high in it, so the Spinosaurus, Pteranodons and other fish eaters would be easily supplied
Anyone else want to see a Sorkin type character in JW3? Someone like her leading a group or organization determined to stop the capture/killing of the lose dinosaurs on the mainland would make sense. Maybe even as a member of the DPG? We don't really know what if any future the DPG will have in JW3.
How the lysine contingency will be discussed in _Jurassic World 3_ : *Owen:* Shouldn't the dinos have died after being taken off of the island, or better yet now that I think about it, after the collapse of the park? *Clare:* Oh, some crazy woman reversed it years ago. Fin. XD
I heard the scene was edited down. Apparently they discuss a time frame of like 5 days before the dinosaurs die. So they either wait it out, or shut down the system (which if I understand correctly, lead to the raptors being released).
It was the Apatasaurus and compys that are confirmed to have gotten off the island. There where 3-6 juvenile raptors that were on the ship in Jurassic Park but were found and killed before the ship made it to the mainland. In the second book the only raptor found on the mainland was one that was already dead that washed up on shore and was burned soon after be the Coastarican Government. Also all the dinos from Site A AKA Jurassic Park were burned to death by the coastarican government as those that survived were taken off the island. So there's two to three storylines in the JP/JW world, the books, the movies, and the games. So to do something like this you would have to do two to three venerations on this topic.
I find it really, really hard to believe that a geneticist brilliant enough to figure out how to clone living dinosaurs, wouldn't know that animals can't produce lysine to begin with. That's beyond a stretch.
One of the biggest questions was how were the carnivore surviving and that was obviously because they were eating the herbivores the book the lost world puts a lot more emphasis in detail into this question the whole point of going there was to find out about extinction and find out that how are they surviving it is a huge flaw it’s such a huge flaw it’s almost a huge flaw in the plot but overall it’s a really cool thing to think about
Its one of the reasons I wish the JW films would just officially say JP:TLW and JP3 didn't happen. A lot of my problems with the Jurassic world films would be fixed if the events of those films weren't in continuity anymore and Jurassic World was just a direct sequel to Jurassic Park..
I thought both means this one and this one; *all two* Technically there were two Tyrannosaurs in San Diego already, the bull and the hatchling :p Anyway, I get what ya mean. Woulda been even more madness although idk if two could fit into the cargo hold of that same ship.
Read it. He's still leaving out a bunch of stuff, in no way is a fault of his. The book (books, really) have a ton of additional detail, even a few wry jokes at the author's expense.
"If they were dependent on lysine" Well humans and a lot of other animals actually need lysine from their food and are unable to synthetize it. That's the reason why it's called "essential amino acid".
I wonder if Hammond knew about the antidote being put into the water supply, which is why he reacts so angrily when Muldoon suggests putting the LC into effect?
"The lysine contingency is the only thing keeping the dinosaurs from going global" Ya know, other than not going anywhere near the islands, not transporting them off of the island, and making sure that you have no stowaways on the ship in the first place. Because realistically a T. rex could totally swim the distance between Nublar and the mainland, or any other dinosaur. The only things capable of realistically making that trek are aquatic reptiles and pterosaurs. The second one would also depend on the size and how close the nearest islands are so that they can go island hopping.
Exactly. It's not like it wasn't *always* the humans bringing them to the mainland. _The bull rex has totally planned out the San Diego Incident, he swam there by himself and neutralized the target humans and wrought havoc in human infrastructure so the human species slowly gets exterminated by his one-man guerilla warfare. In Fallen Kingdom, the dinosaurs totally weren't shipped to Lockwood's residence on the mainland by humans, in fact, the dinosaurs built themselves the troop transport ferry vessel to make everyone forget D-day at Omaha beach and call the day of their invasion of America the real D-day; Dino day or sumthin._ lmao Lysine was kind of a useless attempt of dumb scientists to make handling of dinosaurs foolproof for even dumber regular people. It really was. In Crichton's original novel, an infant is killed by a flock of procompsognathus at a hospital. How did those little bastards get there? They didn't swim, that's for sure. At least not the whole way. They most definitely sneaked onto a cargo ship like raptors did/tried, thanks to Tim (who was the computer nerd in the book and Lex was his _little_ sister) the vessel turned back instead of docking and therefore avoided "importing" the nasty surprise to the mainland. But I'm pretty certain that the compies could go up on deck unnoticed by the crew and spread to other habitats like that.
This doesn't really have to do with this video but I have a question. What are you referring to when you say that the therapods skulls were shrinkwrapped?it would be nice to have some clarification on that subject
I like how the people created Jurassic park the game, I like how it tells the people that wanted to know what happened after the events in jurassic park in the game. 😉
One of the crazy things about Jurassic Park is that these dinosaurs existed not only millions of years away from humans, but millions of years away from each other. In some cases, the dinosaurs would have existed closer to our time that the times of others. Even if humans were to leave the dinosaurs alone completely, they would have still created an entirely new ecosystem of animals that never coexisted before.
I mean the lysine contingency would never work anyways because lysine is an essential amino acid so...NO LIVING ANIMAL ON EARTH CAN MAKE LYSINE ANYWAYS. We all get it from our diets. I find it so weird that Crichton missed this crucial detail despite going to med school.
Maybe he did´t missed it. At the end of the novel he states that everything in the book is actual fiction. So, to the non scientific mind of the common reader, the lysine would sound like a veritable mean to control the dinosaurs.
More likely, it was his idea of a 'dad joke'. He used to grin widely when it was brought up in publicity for the book, along with his admission that he couldn't figure out how to go from a reconstructed DNA sequence to a viable embryo, so his solution in the book was to skip it and hope nobody called him out on it- also with a wide grin.
But who says that dinosaurs had the same metabolism as ALL LIVING ANIMALS ON EARTH TODAY? Maybe for the dinosaurs lysine was a non-essential amino acid, so they possessed a metabolic pathway that could produce lysine by other bio-compounds. On that way it's a must for dinosaurs to possess an enzyme that is vital in the production of lysine, and so any defect gene that codes for an enzyme in lysine-synthesis pathway could compromise dinosaurs health and put them in coma, unless they get lysine from other sources through diet (lysine extract from the park staff, lysine rich food in the wild or lysine enriched water) than they could easily survive "The Lysine Contingency Plan".
Strictly speaking, *possibly*, but only in the same gently qualified sense that "Anything is possible..." is a good reply to, "Dude, did we just see a chupacabras?" Much more likely that non-avian dinosaurs were pretty much like contemporary avian dinosaurs in this regard- indeed, that dinosaurs were much like all other terrestrial animals, animals generally, and on up. (Up? Down? Whatever.) It would be far odder- so odd as to be incredibly unlikely- that they would somehow be special in this regard, caps-lock-enthusiasm notwithstanding. Animals ingest their lysine. Absent a good reason to think otherwise, it's expected dinosaurs- by dint of their being animals, too- would be the same in this regard.
Didnt Sarah explain this in the lost world? Herbivores eat plants such as soybeans and such and that gives them their dose of lysine and carnivores eat them so it's a full circle effect
Im not here to see the video, but to point that, as ellie sadler pointed, there are lots of plants richs in lysine, which hervs eats, carnivores eats them, so they get the lysine from theyr food. Have a good year.
What do you think of what Collin Trevorrow just said in an interview about JW3, *Many assume Jurassic World 3 will feature dinosaurs terrorizing cities and suburbs, and fans are often referring to properties like Godzilla and Planet of the Apes. Are these connections a fair assumption, or do you plan to keep the dinosaurs in the wilder, more untamed landscapes?* "I just have no idea what would motivate dinosaurs to terrorize a city. They can’t organize. Right now we’ve got lethal predators in wild areas surrounding cities all over the world. They don’t go pack hunting for humans in urban areas. The world I get excited about is the one where it’s possible that a dinosaur might run out in front of your car on a foggy backroad, or invade your campground looking for food. A world where dinosaur interaction is unlikely but possible-the same way we watch out for bears or sharks. We hunt animals, we traffic them, we herd them, we breed them, we invade their territory and pay the price, but we don’t go to war with them. If that was the case, we’d have lost that war a long time ago." i think he needs to move on and let a more inspired film maker take over. Missed oppertunities galore in this franchise.
Oh, I see. They're in the redwoods, crossing foggy roads, scaring campers, making enormous tracks near a creek bed. Maybe a vacationing family will strike one with their vintage station wagon, take it home, and it'll wake up and raid the fridge. Hilarity and a heat-warming lesson to follow, no doubt. ;)
3 33 He is right though. If real dinosaurs suddenly ended up in the modern world, they’d keep to the woods and countryside and stay clear of urban areas, and even they didn’t, it would be during the night when things are quieter and they wouldn’t stay long. People forget that dinosaurs were real animals, not kaiju; they wouldn’t go looking for trouble, they’d avoid it if they could help it. So I give props to Trevorrow for deciding to remind people of that.
@@Rahonavis70m it would be impossible for all species to stay hidden like that. Youre right about it not being like godzilla or something, but the idea that they would be sticking to the wilderness off the bat is absurd. They would learn over time. Especially larger species who wouldnt be able to help it. Humans would have to adapt and try to control populations, much like we do with bears in certain areas. His idea is boring. I dont like his vision. I see it as something that could be spun into the best story of the franchise if it was done right. These are the same film makers playing with the "military wants to train dinosaurs" idea.... no just no.
i'd be willing to bet that the lysine contingency will get a token mention or acknowledgement in JP6/JW3 if nothing else than as a nod to the first novel. maybe Blue is caught eating chickens or something :P
Personally I'd much rather have the franchise address it with something along the lines of some former InGen lab tech going "There never was a lysine contingency. Almost every animal on Earth needs to get it from other sources, Wu just made that up to look good and we ran with it because it kept Hammond happy"
A more effective failsafe would be a calcium deficiency. Many modern reptiles have this, and without the proper insects to eat, they grow deformities and die. It is however a very painful and inhuman death
the thing I don't understand about the Lysine contingency, is why did Muldoon suggest such a long term problem solver to fix their immediate problem?! waiting out the dinosaurs for presumably weeks, maybe even months for them all to fall into a coma, I know they were in a bad situation, but I'm sure better ideas could be thought up before having to try boring the dino's to death.
Jurassic Park was just added to the national film registry by the library of Congress. It now stands next to Citizen Kane, Star Wars and Casablanca. It is now art.
Cristian Martinez
YES!!!
I had to BEG my Mother to take me to see JP1 as a kid. I was sheltered as a kid, and under the age of 13.
She took me at the last minuet to see the movie.
We BARELY got to the movie before the start. The opening SCARED my Mother and I could tell she wanted to take me out of the theater after the opening "Raptor opening scene".
But the scene with the Brachi made my Mother gasp in AWE😧😍, and she stayed glued to the seat fixated the rest of the film.
Leaving, she was no longer griping about the cost of tickets, but PRAISING the film and declaring it 3.50 per ticket worth it!
She felt it was going to become a CLASSSIC.
She grew up with dinos from the 50's and 60's. The idea that some dinosaurs were fast, related to BIRDS, and did not drag their tails blew her MIND.
It is one of my core childhood memories!
It always was Art
@@equarg imagine buying tickets for 3.50
*cries in inflation*
And the first Ghostbusters movie
Always has been
“Life uh, finds a way” lol
What if Wu simply lied to Hammond at just how effective the lysine contingency was? If so he could have given false assurances to Hammond’s investors and would be able to continue to work on his creations if the initial park failed because he could claim plausible deniability.
Oscar Stainton He’s a pretty sketchy dude. I wouldn’t put it past him.
That makes way too much sense.
I'm just going to go with that. That makes far more sense than saying that someone smart enough to clone animals that have been extinct for, a minimum, 65 million years somehow wouldn't know that animals can't produce lysine on their own, anyway.
This seems like something that could come up in the third Jurassic world movie when the governments are wondering how they can deal with dinosaurs on the main land. Some person will bring up the contingency but then a scientist in the proper field will bring up that all animals get lysene from outside sources and that Henry Wu probably lied to make himself look better.
Everyone in Park would have to be either scared of Wu or complete moron, including other genetic engineers who worked for Wu and Harding - who is kind of biologists himself. The knowledge that almost all multicellular animals do not produce lysine and they get enough of it just from natural plant/fungi life is not that obscure among people in biological subjects. Especially know.
Either this is just plothole or when author wrote it, the knowledge of lysine biochemistry was much less explored than today. And I lean on the first option.
You'd have thought that someone with Henry Wu's knowledge of genetics and microbiology would have recognized his error, and would have proposed a different "kill switch" for escapee dinosaurs.
why would a person whose only interest was to push science as far as it could be pushed give a fuck about his kill switch working? there is a reason people kept letting him making super dinosaurs... because people thought he could handle them if something bad could happen. he's basically the guy who buys a fake fire extinguisher because he doesn't think he'll ever need it but also it gets everyone else to shut up about it.
i really like the Jurassic Park the game explanation. That game was so well written, it deserved to be the script for JP 3 or another movie! It's perfect and kind of a mix of JP1 and 2. I love it
The troodons looked like shit but if they could get a facelift and feathers I would agree.
The weird last minute villains twist is kinda dumb though.
So... I assume you're a genetically nominal human being who's body doesn't produce the amino-acid lysine? Do you feel the need to supplement your diet with an "antidote" or do you quite simply eat your lysine like every other human since the dawn of time?
@@williamlydon2554 aren't all of them sometimes
Doctor Sorkin, are you Insane?! That was our only Contingent if the Dinosaurs escaped! What were you Thinking!!!
Bryce McKenzie life finds a way......
TBH this explanation is equally stupid as the contingency itself xD Lysine is essential bio-molecule. Microscopic life in water would quickly scavenge whole supply of lysine from it within short period of time. In real-life amino acids like lysine are added to cell culture media in order to grow them. Waters in Isla Sorna would instantly bloom with nasty microscopic organisms who thrive on lysine and subsequently die with constant supply of new lysine.
Well she also released a monster....
The36th She did not put lysine in the water, but a "cure" to the faulty gene. Though that's equally weird, cause you can't change genes like that. Best bet would be a hormone that stimulates lysine production in some gland or something. But eh, yeah... xD
@@RedDeadSakharine Nope.There is NO DIFFERENCE between most types of hormones and lysine. Both are small organic compounds which has to be absorbed by digestive system of animal in order to reach blood stream and tissues and then either be absorbed by cells via proper receptors associated with lipid vesicles or membrane canals (lysine) or just attach to receptor and generate specific cellular signal.
Hormones also are not designed by nature to sustain acidic environment of digestive system or even be taken from outside environment. Hormones were poor choice of explanation by You.
Game is just stupid here. That's all.
Sir, thank you for clarify my ambiguities about the survival of the original dinosaurs back from the Jurassic park. Now I can understand how did Rexy survived so long.
I don't think the lysine contingency was well planned. It could be that Wu didn't know there were lysine enriched plants on the island (and/or) didn't think the animals would leave their enclosures. I used to hink this would work but then I read the JP novel and it all made sense.
It couldn't have been planned or implemented at all. You can't take away something, that wasn't there in the first place. Animals - including humans - can't synthesise lysine to begin with.
That thumbnail just makes me want to watch Jurassic Park.
I mostly watch one after his vidz :)
I was wondering nonstop about the Lysine Contingency since Fallen Kingdom and wasn't sure if I could settle for Tell Tale's explanation. Thanks for clearing it up.
Thank you, finally a good explanation to what's with the lysine problem. It's a pretty simple, but nevertheless a good explanation. I can't really think of how they could bring up this topic again in JW3. Maybe the plants in california are not as lysine rich and the herbivores die? Sounds rather unlikely, but i can't really think of something else.
John Cena
I always see you on TheGamingBeavers videos..........just saying......
The truth?
@@thegamingsloth5387 u can see who?
Who is everyone replying to?
Who is this John Cena? Is he an Alien?
It makes me wonder what would've been the best failsafe/kill switch for the dinosaurs instead of the lysine contingency
Strap a C-4 charge on every hatchling when they hatch lol
A possibility could be to give the dinosaurs an autoimmune disease which would kill them in days unless they got treatment through immunosuppressants given in their diet
@@hunormagyar1843 Exactly, just put a remote bomb on their spinal cord lmao
*SHELL CRACKS*
“Hello new world!”
*BOOM!*
*SHELL CRACKS*
“Hello new-“
*sniff sniff*
“Ooooh, what’s cooking? Mmm, smells delici-“
*SEES JERRY’s SMOLDERING CARCASS*
“JERRRRRYYY!!! NOOOOO-“
*BOOM*
Wu: The Semtex Contingency is foolproof.
InGen: Good…very good.
*Velociraptor learns how to disarm Semtex; becomes resident bomb squad technician*
dR. mAlCoM: Uhhh lIfE FiNdS a WaY.
"So what's the contingency plan?"
"We won't give them an aminoacid they can't naturally produce but can find anywhere because it's in their food."
"..."
"Wha?"
ikr lmao
If I remember correctly, the game didn't have them release lysine into the water supply; it had that scientist develop a cure to the lysine contingency so the dinosaurs would no longer require external sources of lysine to survive. If anything, making sure the groundwater on Isla Nublar would have helped ensure the dinosaurs would stay there as--upon leaving the island--they would start suffering ill effects until they were able to figure out how to counteract the effect and find an adequate source of lysine elsewhere.
The cure would make infinitely more sense in a way as adding that finite amount of lysine before leaving would just have made the dinosaurs die out a few days later than they already woulda. So yea I also think that's what happened in the game.
I absolutely love the differences between novel canon and film canon. Super exciting stuff!!
I don't, there's too many people who combine the lore from both movie and books choosing to pick and choose and mix and match the lore to justify their head cannon.
At long last! A solid, expanded answer to a long-standing question. Nicely done. 👍🏻
Agrees to a kill switch,
Disregards all possible outcomes because "VALUES"
"People are DYING!!! May you please shut down the system?"
Guacamole!!!!! This is (As always) fun and very detailed that you present :) Though if they continue this tactic, it'll be a difficult cycle that science must endure.
Wonderful vid you presented again :)
One thing that always confused me about the first movie was treating that as though they could activate it at range and at will or something. Maybe that wasn't the intent of that conversation but it sure felt like 'hey we'll be safe if we push this button to kill!'
What I'd like to know is what happened to the unauthorized breeding. That was also core to the instability of Jurassic Park and led to animals escaping to the mainland. That's hinted at in the first film but seems completely forgotten in Jurassic World which was open far longer and should have had far more problems as a result.
Jurassic World kind of answers this but it never states how it exactly does this. Given that Jurassic World had still been incubating eggs and there is a petting zoo exhibit for younger animals, it's possible that some dinosaurs had been bred instead of being born in exhibits. We know that they can breed via TLW and JP3 and they did have an active ACU implying they had been ontop of things. We don't know when the trackers are implanted but clearly had to be for all ages considering some came from Sorna. Likely breeding was a problem but not as much as it was prior.
It’s explained somewhere that they use more advance forms of birth control to limit the breeding and function like real zoos with SSP to control genetic diversity and numbers.
I'm so glad that I'm a Jurassic Park fan keep up the good work Klayton
That Lady sounded like Martha Stewart, breaking another law.
Was totally wondering what happened with the Lysine Contingency. Thanks Klayton for bringing this up and clearing it up.🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
3:51 Yea like there's any way for the Dinosaurs to get out of the island. You know that any Dinosaur trying to swim would tern back because they need fresh water and food right Gerry? There's no way any of these animals could possibly get of this island. Like could you imagine if they somehow managed to distract us and lead us away from the boat's only for us to be left behind? That would be so unrealistic like a cartoon parody or sth.
The books start off with compies getting on boats and eating babies in South America
There are swimming and flying dinosaurs on the island. What if a dino stowed away one delivery boat. What if someone found a way to smuggle one off the island. What if through corporate espionage another company stole the dino genomes. There are plenty of reasons why there would need to be a contingency plan to keep dinosaurs on the island.
I've always wondered about that, too. What DID happen to the lysine contingency? In The Lost World, Malcolm asks Hammond how the animals survived with the lysine amino acid.
And they did explain it in the same movie...
@@BarelloSmithyeah but that only affected the animals on Sorna not Nublar
@@warsthemarvel8608
Why shouldn't it affect both islands? Both of them have plants...
In reality, the plan would be nonsensical anyway, since no animal can synthesise lysin on their own in the first place...
@@BarelloSmith well maybe cause the vegetation might be different from the Sorna environment. And if you remember that there were also lots of vegetation that were poisonous to the dinos and according to Ellie they were there cause Hammond liked them for the park but not because they were healthy for the animals.
But that’s my speculation
My dude! I just wanted to say thank you for your theoretical videos on the science of JP and it's predecessors. Dr.Crichton was ahead of his time and I'm just so swamped(in the best of ways) with all of his research through his books and film(Westworld). I love the philosophical and theoretical world and I have him and to some extent views like yours to thank.
Much Peace & Love!
Jaylien Kay
The lysine contingency and the DX infection are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the massive levels of incompetence that were going on in InGen.
THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE :
"Life uh, finds a way"!
I’ve always wondered about the lysine, but I’ve always forgotten to look it up. Thank you for saving me the effort and for presenting it in your awesome way!
As always, a wonderful and insightful video, thank you :)
You should make a video on why Isla Nublar looks like a typical tropical island but Isla Sorna looks like it’s in the dry rocky mountains with redwoods everywhere. Then other parts of Isla Sorna looks like a tropical island.
If you haven't made a video on the topic already, I think it would be interesting to hear how the mosasaurus of Jurassic World managed to survive the unspecified months after the fall of the park without being fed.
Great vid as always, papa. 👍👍👍
I really hope Wu knew lysine was an essential amino acid and just plain lied to anyone - then again anyone working with genetics and cloning work would know it. I wish this was explained as it feels like an actual big hole in the JP films
it is a big plothole, and I also find the idea that the entire security of the park depends on there never being a power outage for any reason a bit much
I haven't watched the video yet, but plenty of plants, fruits and nuts contain lysine. Surely there are some of those on the island that the herbivores can consume, and from there the carnivores should be able to get it as well?
Honestly if Wu wanted to make a slightly more foolproof kill switch...making the dinosaurs dependent on insulin would have worked better
I sincerely thank you 👌for helping us all brush up on our high school biology🦠🧬🔬!
I have a question how much cows goats and pigs did the park needed to feed the dinosaurs? how much they costed to the park? where did they had them in a farm in the island? Did they breed them in the park? Did they have to deal about the animal cruelty on cows goats and pigs etc? and how they trained the pigs to outspeed the raptors? And how they could remove the carcase from the carnivores enclosure? Would be great to hear those small details if they have them of course you should totally make a video about it cheers :D
I have wondered about it as well.
@@wernergillespie6561 Me too
I read somewhere that the shark that was used to feed the Mosasaurus in JW was a cloned shark.
If you can clone a dinosaur, cloning a goat should be absolutely easy
@@katenaccios I see but then the question is would a clone goats cow etc can be better than a original healthy one? In my opinion it wouldn't be the same and the dinosaur would have lack of who knows vitamins etc?
@@stevenirrizarry4208 if they notice lack of vitamines or something they could just modify their genetic code so that the dinosaurs could have more benefits on eating them.
But in Jurassic Park it's often shown that the Ingen workers don't know much about dinos diet and other stuff, like the ill Triceratop
I always wondered about this! Thanks for the vid!🦖🦕🦖🦕😀😀
After a long day of work, watching your video is nice.
I guess Malcolm was right: Life Finds A Way. That's crazy how they made an antidote in the Jurassic Park game, knowing how dangerous the dinosaurs are if they had escaped to the mainland.
nah order 66 Contingency would have worked better lol.
Robert Muldoon execute order 66 shot her
“Commander Muldoon, the time has come. Execute Order 66.”
@@AOA9871 It will be done, hammond.
@@notmariolevi2863 lol
To quote Dr. Malcolm life cannot be contained Life breaks free life finds a Way
Klayton your my fav youtuber thank you for all great content
What I've always thought was odd about that conversation is that it seems to be brought up as an immediate solution to the problem at hand. In essence Muldoon is saying "lets stop feeding them and our friends will be safe". But one would assume that it would take awhile, at least days, for such a thing to take effect. And it doesn't seem like feeding the dinos would have been the first priority in that moment of crisis anyway. One would think that it would be a no brainer that they weren't going to go out and feed them lysine right then to keep them all alive. Or...am I missing something?
I always wondered about that myself. Also I never quite understood Hammonds response to it "That's out of the question!". Did he *want* to feed the dinosaurs in this situation? Or did he mean that it wasn't the immediate solution? But even then, it would have been more likely for him to say something along the line of "We can't wait that long!" not something, that made it seem like a bad idea in general...
@Mister Majestic you're wrong, stop acting like your illiterate ass knows what's going on.
@Mister Majestic
What about the staff that would eventually return? I don't think that they left for several days. Also the conversation would still make no sense. How is waiting for the dinosaurs to starve a plan to a) rescue the people in the park and b) to get the park back running again? It is quite literally the opposite of a plan.
I'd have to imagine it would come up in the Third Jurassic World. The Third Jurassic World looks like its going to be exactly what the Lysine Contingency was meant to stop.
Maybe the doctor was well aware of how flawed it was, and had another reason to implement a kill switch that doesn't actually work.
As far as it coming back up I think it could. The buyers from the dino auction may not have been told about the diet and could potentially kill their purchased dino through not knowing they need the lysine.
That'd be almost funny. Poor dinosaurs.
I doubt that the Lysine Contingency will make another appearance in the series. It has been raised since The Lost World - so it's hardly an open plot point. Plus, I'm skeptical that any new dinosaurs bred for Jurassic World would have had this fail-safe inserted into them, given how it ineffective it was when the first park failed. However, it would be interesting to see if Jurassic World had created any other fail-safes to ensure the animals didn't spread off the island - although it would be difficult to raise those and yet not somehow undermine the premise of Fallen Kingdom.
I'm with others in the comments in that I think Wu bald-faced lied about the whole thing. After all, how would you test it? Lock a specimen up in a room, feed it a Lysine-free diet, and watch it slip into a coma and finally die? Does anyone think Hammond would sanction that?
It's also possible Wu just wasn't THAT smart of a geneticist and fully intended for the Lysine Contingency to get tripped, but it never did due to his own incompetence. After all, he was pretty young in the original JP and, while obviously brilliant, probably still had plenty of knowledge gaps. It also doesn't help that Hammond's scientists were likely in blue skies a good chunk of the time and probably didn't completely grasp what they were doing.
Hey man doubt you'll see this you get so manu comments but THANK YOU! I doubt you hear it enough because it cant be said enough man thank you for making these videos I love all your jp(w) videos they are sick af love that someone else loves the franchise and dinosaurs as much as I do keep up the good work man you save me from going nuts love watching your videos man thanks again
If I remember the second novel correctly, the incidents caused by escaped dinosaurs totally stoped after some time. I thought that mean that even trough feeding, the dinosaurs could´t get enough lysine. Clearly I was wrong.
This was a great debate
3:59
Proceeds to release one Tylosaur in International waters.
I doubt that it will come up again. Plus, we were told that all the animals were female and could NOT reproduce, but we saw eggs which were laid on both islands. For me the answer is just as Ian Malcom had stated, "Life will find a way"
Even if the contingent was in place, lysine is easy to find in nature, for plant eaters, legumes, which there are many species on the islands, is one source. grains and grasses are another. For meat eaters, fish is high in it, so the Spinosaurus, Pteranodons and other fish eaters would be easily supplied
Anyone else want to see a Sorkin type character in JW3? Someone like her leading a group or organization determined to stop the capture/killing of the lose dinosaurs on the mainland would make sense. Maybe even as a member of the DPG? We don't really know what if any future the DPG will have in JW3.
Uuuummm didn't Sorkin wanted to save the dinosaurs ?
@@WhyTho525 Yes..
I love the jp telltale game. I already know it's gonna be in this video.
How the lysine contingency will be discussed in _Jurassic World 3_ :
*Owen:* Shouldn't the dinos have died after being taken off of the island, or better yet now that I think about it, after the collapse of the park?
*Clare:* Oh, some crazy woman reversed it years ago.
Fin. XD
Too bad Dominion didn’t mention this
Young Sam L. Jackson's voice🤩
I heard the scene was edited down. Apparently they discuss a time frame of like 5 days before the dinosaurs die. So they either wait it out, or shut down the system (which if I understand correctly, lead to the raptors being released).
I can see the Lysine contingency coming up in the new movie in a scene where someone is telling Henry Wu about his many failures at the Park.
"Perry Mason And the Case of the Failed Contingencies"
It was the Apatasaurus and compys that are confirmed to have gotten off the island. There where 3-6 juvenile raptors that were on the ship in Jurassic Park but were found and killed before the ship made it to the mainland. In the second book the only raptor found on the mainland was one that was already dead that washed up on shore and was burned soon after be the Coastarican Government.
Also all the dinos from Site A AKA Jurassic Park were burned to death by the coastarican government as those that survived were taken off the island. So there's two to three storylines in the JP/JW world, the books, the movies, and the games. So to do something like this you would have to do two to three venerations on this topic.
I find it really, really hard to believe that a geneticist brilliant enough to figure out how to clone living dinosaurs, wouldn't know that animals can't produce lysine to begin with. That's beyond a stretch.
One of the biggest questions was how were the carnivore surviving and that was obviously because they were eating the herbivores the book the lost world puts a lot more emphasis in detail into this question the whole point of going there was to find out about extinction and find out that how are they surviving it is a huge flaw it’s such a huge flaw it’s almost a huge flaw in the plot but overall it’s a really cool thing to think about
Great video klayton
I think it's part of what makes JP: the Game soft-canon
Its one of the reasons I wish the JW films would just officially say JP:TLW and JP3 didn't happen. A lot of my problems with the Jurassic world films would be fixed if the events of those films weren't in continuity anymore and Jurassic World was just a direct sequel to Jurassic Park..
Here's an interesting topic for a future video:
What would happened if BOTH Tyrannosaurs, from the Lost World, came to San Diego? 😯
I thought both means this one and this one; *all two*
Technically there were two Tyrannosaurs in San Diego already, the bull and the hatchling :p
Anyway, I get what ya mean. Woulda been even more madness although idk if two could fit into the cargo hold of that same ship.
@@hunormagyar1843 I'm sure it could, considering the inside was big enough 🤷🏻♂️
I believe you forgot the most viable piece of this flawed plan: John Hammond himself. He was the one who came up with the contingency plan.
Hey klaiton im currently reading the JP book so do i finish it and watch your videos related to the book or do i just watch them???
Read it. He's still leaving out a bunch of stuff, in no way is a fault of his. The book (books, really) have a ton of additional detail, even a few wry jokes at the author's expense.
"If they were dependent on lysine" Well humans and a lot of other animals actually need lysine from their food and are unable to synthetize it. That's the reason why it's called "essential amino acid".
I wonder if Hammond knew about the antidote being put into the water supply, which is why he reacts so angrily when Muldoon suggests putting the LC into effect?
"The lysine contingency is the only thing keeping the dinosaurs from going global"
Ya know, other than not going anywhere near the islands, not transporting them off of the island, and making sure that you have no stowaways on the ship in the first place.
Because realistically a T. rex could totally swim the distance between Nublar and the mainland, or any other dinosaur.
The only things capable of realistically making that trek are aquatic reptiles and pterosaurs.
The second one would also depend on the size and how close the nearest islands are so that they can go island hopping.
Exactly. It's not like it wasn't *always* the humans bringing them to the mainland. _The bull rex has totally planned out the San Diego Incident, he swam there by himself and neutralized the target humans and wrought havoc in human infrastructure so the human species slowly gets exterminated by his one-man guerilla warfare.
In Fallen Kingdom, the dinosaurs totally weren't shipped to Lockwood's residence on the mainland by humans, in fact, the dinosaurs built themselves the troop transport ferry vessel to make everyone forget D-day at Omaha beach and call the day of their invasion of America the real D-day; Dino day or sumthin._ lmao
Lysine was kind of a useless attempt of dumb scientists to make handling of dinosaurs foolproof for even dumber regular people.
It really was. In Crichton's original novel, an infant is killed by a flock of procompsognathus at a hospital. How did those little bastards get there? They didn't swim, that's for sure. At least not the whole way. They most definitely sneaked onto a cargo ship like raptors did/tried, thanks to Tim (who was the computer nerd in the book and Lex was his _little_ sister) the vessel turned back instead of docking and therefore avoided "importing" the nasty surprise to the mainland. But I'm pretty certain that the compies could go up on deck unnoticed by the crew and spread to other habitats like that.
This doesn't really have to do with this video but I have a question. What are you referring to when you say that the therapods skulls were shrinkwrapped?it would be nice to have some clarification on that subject
I believe it got a mention in Evolution of Claire as something that Wu was reworking for Jurassic World
I like how the people created Jurassic park the game, I like how it tells the people that wanted to know what happened after the events in jurassic park in the game. 😉
cool video man
One of the crazy things about Jurassic Park is that these dinosaurs existed not only millions of years away from humans, but millions of years away from each other. In some cases, the dinosaurs would have existed closer to our time that the times of others. Even if humans were to leave the dinosaurs alone completely, they would have still created an entirely new ecosystem of animals that never coexisted before.
Fun fact; No animal can manufacture lysine. It's always from plants.
Awe love that intro
I mean the lysine contingency would never work anyways because lysine is an essential amino acid so...NO LIVING ANIMAL ON EARTH CAN MAKE LYSINE ANYWAYS. We all get it from our diets. I find it so weird that Crichton missed this crucial detail despite going to med school.
Maybe he did´t missed it. At the end of the novel he states that everything in the book is actual fiction. So, to the non scientific mind of the common reader, the lysine would sound like a veritable mean to control the dinosaurs.
More likely, it was his idea of a 'dad joke'. He used to grin widely when it was brought up in publicity for the book, along with his admission that he couldn't figure out how to go from a reconstructed DNA sequence to a viable embryo, so his solution in the book was to skip it and hope nobody called him out on it- also with a wide grin.
@@AbogadodeAsmus to the common reader, and to the in-universe overexcited billionaire running the show and signing the checks.
But who says that dinosaurs had the same metabolism as ALL LIVING ANIMALS ON EARTH TODAY?
Maybe for the dinosaurs lysine was a non-essential amino acid, so they possessed a metabolic pathway that could produce lysine by other bio-compounds.
On that way it's a must for dinosaurs to possess an enzyme that is vital in the production of lysine, and so any defect gene that codes for an enzyme in lysine-synthesis pathway could compromise dinosaurs health and put them in coma, unless they get lysine from other sources through diet (lysine extract from the park staff, lysine rich food in the wild or lysine enriched water) than they could easily survive "The Lysine Contingency Plan".
Strictly speaking, *possibly*, but only in the same gently qualified sense that "Anything is possible..." is a good reply to, "Dude, did we just see a chupacabras?" Much more likely that non-avian dinosaurs were pretty much like contemporary avian dinosaurs in this regard- indeed, that dinosaurs were much like all other terrestrial animals, animals generally, and on up. (Up? Down? Whatever.) It would be far odder- so odd as to be incredibly unlikely- that they would somehow be special in this regard, caps-lock-enthusiasm notwithstanding.
Animals ingest their lysine. Absent a good reason to think otherwise, it's expected dinosaurs- by dint of their being animals, too- would be the same in this regard.
I remember the Lysine dependance from the book.
Didnt Sarah explain this in the lost world? Herbivores eat plants such as soybeans and such and that gives them their dose of lysine and carnivores eat them so it's a full circle effect
3:33 I get serious That Vegan Teacher vibes here. I mean it looks like her too before she got too withered.
Im not here to see the video, but to point that, as ellie sadler pointed, there are lots of plants richs in lysine, which hervs eats, carnivores eats them, so they get the lysine from theyr food. Have a good year.
What do you think of what Collin Trevorrow just said in an interview about JW3,
*Many assume Jurassic World 3 will feature dinosaurs terrorizing cities and suburbs, and fans are often referring to properties like Godzilla and Planet of the Apes. Are these connections a fair assumption, or do you plan to keep the dinosaurs in the wilder, more untamed landscapes?*
"I just have no idea what would motivate dinosaurs to terrorize a city. They can’t organize. Right now we’ve got lethal predators in wild areas surrounding cities all over the world. They don’t go pack hunting for humans in urban areas. The world I get excited about is the one where it’s possible that a dinosaur might run out in front of your car on a foggy backroad, or invade your campground looking for food. A world where dinosaur interaction is unlikely but possible-the same way we watch out for bears or sharks. We hunt animals, we traffic them, we herd them, we breed them, we invade their territory and pay the price, but we don’t go to war with them. If that was the case, we’d have lost that war a long time ago."
i think he needs to move on and let a more inspired film maker take over. Missed oppertunities galore in this franchise.
Oh, I see.
They're in the redwoods, crossing foggy roads, scaring campers, making enormous tracks near a creek bed. Maybe a vacationing family will strike one with their vintage station wagon, take it home, and it'll wake up and raid the fridge. Hilarity and a heat-warming lesson to follow, no doubt.
;)
3 33 He is right though. If real dinosaurs suddenly ended up in the modern world, they’d keep to the woods and countryside and stay clear of urban areas, and even they didn’t, it would be during the night when things are quieter and they wouldn’t stay long. People forget that dinosaurs were real animals, not kaiju; they wouldn’t go looking for trouble, they’d avoid it if they could help it. So I give props to Trevorrow for deciding to remind people of that.
@@Rahonavis70m it would be impossible for all species to stay hidden like that. Youre right about it not being like godzilla or something, but the idea that they would be sticking to the wilderness off the bat is absurd. They would learn over time. Especially larger species who wouldnt be able to help it. Humans would have to adapt and try to control populations, much like we do with bears in certain areas. His idea is boring. I dont like his vision. I see it as something that could be spun into the best story of the franchise if it was done right. These are the same film makers playing with the "military wants to train dinosaurs" idea.... no just no.
i'd be willing to bet that the lysine contingency will get a token mention or acknowledgement in JP6/JW3 if nothing else than as a nod to the first novel. maybe Blue is caught eating chickens or something :P
The raptors are just dudes in masks, I can’t stop laughing.
Why because they wanted to make it as real as possible for the actors instead of relying on fake cgi and half assed reactions?
Klayton Fioriti, so how did the dinosaurs get to the mainland between novels besides the ships?
👍👍
Personally I'd much rather have the franchise address it with something along the lines of some former InGen lab tech going "There never was a lysine contingency. Almost every animal on Earth needs to get it from other sources, Wu just made that up to look good and we ran with it because it kept Hammond happy"
A more effective failsafe would be a calcium deficiency. Many modern reptiles have this, and without the proper insects to eat, they grow deformities and die. It is however a very painful and inhuman death
and hammond didn't;t want to give his animals an inhumane death.
the thing I don't understand about the Lysine contingency, is why did Muldoon suggest such a long term problem solver to fix their immediate problem?! waiting out the dinosaurs for presumably weeks, maybe even months for them all to fall into a coma, I know they were in a bad situation, but I'm sure better ideas could be thought up before having to try boring the dino's to death.
Yes always wonder about this
Well this explains mostly on how the dinosaurs who escaped the Lockwood estate will survive on the mainland
Simone with skills and knowledge like Wu would never miss such thing as basic as lycine.
Xander Guldie prob did it on purpose so he'd get paid. He's a sketchy guy to begin with
I always thought the Sorna explanation was the same for Neublar.
I learned about Amino Acids while taking biology this past semester!
Life finds a way-myself
I almost like to think that Henry Wu at the start knew and did it on purpose to insure the animals survived so they could evolve and adapt.
Did Wu know about it though. Might be his entire plan