The Bombing of Pompeii during World War II

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  • In August and September 1943, a series of allied missions targeting nearby roads and railyards dropped about 160 bombs on Pompeii, damaging some of the site's most iconic structures.
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Introduction
    1:02 The Allied Invasion of Italy
    1:34 Why Pompeii was bombed
    2:23 The extent of the damage
    2:48 The Antiquarium
    3:30 The House of Sallust
    4:19 The House of the Faun
    5:04 The House of Trebius Valens
    6:02 Conclusion
    Thanks for watching!

КОМЕНТАРІ • 411

  • @LyricalSoul09
    @LyricalSoul09 2 роки тому +91

    That was heartbreaking, I know many parts of Italy were bombed but I didn’t realize the extent of the damage to Pompeii. It is the most amazing place I have ever visited. Looking forward to the audio version of your book!

    • @ericvosselmans5657
      @ericvosselmans5657 2 роки тому +9

      The Allies bombed so much cultural treasures. The sad truth is that both the English and the Americans were given a very powerful weapon that they were much to immature to handle properly.

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 2 роки тому +4

      @@ericvosselmans5657 If the Allies were unable to handle the weapon properly. Imagine how much of a shit fest it was on the Axis side of the war. (Hint: the Blitz)

    • @conradmcdougall3629
      @conradmcdougall3629 2 роки тому +4

      I don't support the axis but the allies really didn't care what they destroyed. A fifth century monetary was bombed due to poor intelligence.
      The Germans did what they could to preserve European cultural sites and her people. They were European after all.

    • @J.C.180
      @J.C.180 2 роки тому +2

      @@conradmcdougall3629 "And her people." LOL. If they cared about "preserving Europe's people" they wouldn't have followed a mad man into all out war for their "master race." Do ya reckon the Blitzkrieg tank warfare tactic "preserved" much when it overan France, Belgium and the Netherlands? Back to bed Kid. You clearly support the nazls.

    • @DiederikCA
      @DiederikCA Рік тому

      @@conradmcdougall3629 i remember Hitler ordered the demolition of Paris. The responsible military officer surrendered Paris without a fight, or a scratch to the city. He

  • @michaelwolfgadsby8958
    @michaelwolfgadsby8958 2 роки тому +351

    The algorithm is kicking in friend. You're gonna get a lot new views soon me thinks. I hope they enjoy your content as much as the rest of us! Keep up the good work.

    • @Vlad__b1401
      @Vlad__b1401 2 роки тому +7

      I follow small channels and they happen to blow the fuck up, i dont see why this channel is an expection...

    • @mackenzie8011
      @mackenzie8011 2 роки тому +2

      Made it to my homepage too!

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 2 роки тому

      @dev null Ignorance is bliss

    • @lizzie7825
      @lizzie7825 2 роки тому

      True that!

    • @mackenzie8011
      @mackenzie8011 2 роки тому +2

      @dev null it wasn’t worth letting him know I was recommended his vid? Thanks for letting me know the rules!

  • @jec1ny
    @jec1ny 2 роки тому +117

    I went there in December of 1986 while I was in the navy. My ship had moored for a short port visit in Naples. It was absolutely fascinating. Since then I understand that there has been a lot of excavation both in Pompeii and the neighboring city of Herculaneum. I really want to go back and see all of the new finds. The Second World War was such a tragedy on so many levels. It's hard to think of it w/o being overwhelmed by the sheer weight of all the misery.

    • @jhtsurvival
      @jhtsurvival 2 роки тому +5

      So much was destroyed

    • @dovobis
      @dovobis 2 роки тому +5

      It is mind blowing. All that death and destruction. For a lot of folks, that's all they ever knew in this life. The war destroyed so much.

    • @lynnedelacy2841
      @lynnedelacy2841 2 роки тому +3

      If you do go back make sure you visit the museum in Naples - and leave lots of time - as it is packed with artefacts from Pompeii

  • @525Lines
    @525Lines 2 роки тому +100

    Yet another example of something deserving a 3D virtual recreation.

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 2 роки тому +1

      Too late.

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 2 роки тому

      @@alukuhito Almost a century too late.

  • @BagelsnOj
    @BagelsnOj 2 роки тому +164

    I got a degree in Greek and Roman history and I never paid as much attention to my classes as I do with this guy's videos lol

    • @rossmcboss5887
      @rossmcboss5887 2 роки тому +2

      He’s like a 6 dawg- that must have been a college degree

    • @garyfrancis6193
      @garyfrancis6193 2 роки тому

      Εγώ επιζούσε . My degree is in Ancient Classical Art and Architecture. I lived in Greece for 8.5 years and visited Italy often including Pompeii.

    • @4ur3n
      @4ur3n 2 роки тому +4

      I don't even have a degree in history and I am still paying attention here :)

    • @gorgeousgeorge7960
      @gorgeousgeorge7960 2 роки тому +5

      Learn to code

    • @lacey3880
      @lacey3880 2 роки тому

      He sounds like the history guy...his voice has changed to match

  • @GiuseppeLeopizzi
    @GiuseppeLeopizzi 2 роки тому +48

    It is not a problem linked only to Pompeii: all the Roman-medieval bridges, ancient houses and farms, medieval cities and castles! I think it is enough to mention the abbey of Montecassino (completely destroyed) and the refectory of Santa Maria delle Grazie in Milan which hosts Leonardo's Last Supper (miraculously survived the bombings).
    The carpet bombing strategy was a deliberate act of psychological terrorism.

    • @brianmccarthy5557
      @brianmccarthy5557 2 роки тому +6

      This wasn't carpet bombing. It was badly targeted bombing of a transportation objective. The question is was the objective worth the potential damage? I don't know if these were British or American bombers. The British tended to be extremely careless, it seems by design, in bombing Catholic countries. The completely unjustified destruction of Monte Cassino was one of their greatest war crimes. To their enduring shame some American units colaborated in these crimes though official American policy was to go to great lengths to avoid damage to irreplaceable cultural and religious sites. If the Allies committed any large scale war crimes it were those associated with their bombing campaigns against not strictly military objectives. They even, mostly the British, bombed neutral Bulgaria for years. Bulgaria was finally forced to declare war against the Western Allies in late 1943, around the time of the murder of Tsar Boris, but never actually fought any allied forces. They never even declared war against the USSR, which nonetheless invaded and conquered the country in 1944 witbout a declaration of war and with the full approval of their western allies.
      That the British were aware that their bombing campaign was criminal is shown by the lack of honors given after the war to the the leaders of the Bomber Force, in contrast to the almost innumerable honors and rewards given to all the other services. The Americans have never pursued a program of mass bombing since, designing their missles, planes and weapon systems for precision targeting.

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 2 роки тому +3

      "The carpet bombing strategy was a deliberate act of psychological terrorism."
      First before making such claims I think you deserve to know the nature of the Italian front. The Italian front became extremely stagnent after the initial invasion, as it was the perfect place to dig in and counteract maneuver warfare. Armoured vehicles, such as tanks have a hard time being useful in mountainous terrain. Something almost the entirety of the Italian peninsula consists of. This was just the ideal place to return back to WWI style trench warfare and so they did.
      However these men at the front still need to be supplied with food, armaments/ammunition and clothes for example. Thus the Allies started bombing all kinds of things of logistical importance. Places such as railyards and bridges became important targets.
      As the decision to bomb Monte Casino is way too complicated for me to explain I'm going to link to a timestamp of a video talking about it: ua-cam.com/video/ggden_EFHJQ/v-deo.html
      As for the bombing of Santa Maria delle Grazie, you are correct on that and you can blame Sir Arthur 'Bomber' Harris on that one.

    • @GiuseppeLeopizzi
      @GiuseppeLeopizzi 2 роки тому +9

      @@martijn9568 Thank you, maybe you didn't notice, but I'm Italian and I don't think it's necessary for you to educate me on the Italian front.
      Just to understand, some examples: the bombing of Rome, San Lorenzo district, on July 19, 1943, the bombing of Pisa, railway station and southern part of the city, of August 31, 1943 were certainly carpet bombings.
      Then if you do not agree with my statement you can always go and ask the inhabitants of Dresden for guidance.
      But in case you are still not convinced en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Naples_in_World_War_II

    • @biffin62
      @biffin62 2 роки тому +3

      @@brianmccarthy5557 The most destructive example of carpet bombing of civilian targets was the American bombing of Tokyo in March 1945 when all of the east of the city was destroyed and 105,000 civilians lost their lives in one night. I believe that to this day it remains the worst example of the (non - nuclear) bombing of civilians in history.

    • @heno02
      @heno02 2 роки тому +6

      @@GiuseppeLeopizzi Carpet bombing, compared to what exactly? We are talking about world war two. Any large scale destruction of targets via air bombing was done exclusively with carpet bombing. There was no precision bombing at that time. The closest you got where bombs dropped by smaller fighter bombers and bombers but those did not have the capacity to carry the needed explosive ordinance to deliver enough damage to have an impact on road and rail infrastructure. They where also a lot more vulnerable compared to high altitude flying heavy strategic bombers.
      The video also says that Pompeii was *NOT* the target. You speak with indignation when people "lecture" you, but clearly, you lack or are not willing to contemplate very crucial information that puts this in another context (and in a complete different reality than what you are drawing).

  • @57125
    @57125 2 роки тому +73

    Getting Mark Felton vibes from this video.

    • @TrevorTrottier
      @TrevorTrottier 2 роки тому +9

      I thought it was when I first hit it and then wrong voice and no music came on 🤣

    • @miketacos9034
      @miketacos9034 2 роки тому +1

      Had to check before I clicked. Still clicked though.

    • @miketacos9034
      @miketacos9034 2 роки тому +5

      BUM bupupubum BUM bupupubum BUM bupupubah Bah-bah-bah-bah!

    • @coryobrien8154
      @coryobrien8154 2 роки тому +1

      Dammit!! You beat me to it

    • @jimc.goodfellas226
      @jimc.goodfellas226 2 роки тому +5

      Ah fellow men of culture I see

  • @33Donner77
    @33Donner77 2 роки тому +10

    Never heard about the WW II bombing of Pompeii. Thanks for the presentation.

  • @MMijdus
    @MMijdus 2 роки тому +13

    Never knew this. Stupid war!
    I visited Pompeii in 2018, and none of this was mentioned anywhere as far as I know. But thank you for this informative vid.

    • @AnyoneCanSee
      @AnyoneCanSee 2 роки тому +9

      Hahaha "hello tourists, so remember that time we were fascists?" Italy really doesn't want to be reminded.

    • @bepinkfloyd814
      @bepinkfloyd814 2 роки тому +2

      @@AnyoneCanSee yeah but we got the duce little statues and shit in shops still and a lot of new fascist, Casapound and Forza Nuova. Different things etc but trust me some italians love fascism still even if they are not the magiority of the country.

    • @brianmccarthy5557
      @brianmccarthy5557 2 роки тому +2

      @@bepinkfloyd814 I've noticed a lot of you love communism too. Birds of a feather.

    • @bepinkfloyd814
      @bepinkfloyd814 2 роки тому

      @@brianmccarthy5557 yeah but italian comunism is not the same thing like the russian type, we had problems with everything... i mean look at the italian goverment Lol we can't never finish a mandate since Berlusconi, corruption etc etc. Italy is a beautiful shithole

  • @gabrielinostroza4989
    @gabrielinostroza4989 2 роки тому +8

    Every time i hear about ancient artifacts and structures getting destroyed my heart sinks to my stomach, especially the dismay of it happening just so close to modern times, i wish everything there had at least been photographed.

  • @remic2902
    @remic2902 2 роки тому +30

    It’s always a pleasure to watch your videos. Well documented and explained. Thank you. Keep them coming.

  • @jbhann
    @jbhann 2 роки тому +5

    At 5:44, that’s an enormous amount a bombs to hit Pompeii. So much so, that it could be interpreted as being an intentional target. And the areas which appear to have little or no ruins, have the least amount of bomb hits. It would be interesting to see a map of bomb targets outside of Pompeii, if such map or information even exists. Maybe the shear mass amount of bombs being dropped just happen to fall in the pattern they did, but something seems a bit off.

    • @GiuseppeLeopizzi
      @GiuseppeLeopizzi 2 роки тому +3

      5200 in the Pompeii Valley. 159 almost certain, about 70 are not confirmed, which would mean that they are still there: it is not known how many between 1943 and 1946 were defused by the American army. There are no certain records.

    •  2 роки тому +3

      I think they just didn’t care at all.

  • @AnyoneCanSee
    @AnyoneCanSee 2 роки тому +12

    Very interesting and once again something I knew nothing about despite having visited Pompeii and the museum. If it is mentioned at all it must be hidden away as I guess they don't want to be reminded of the war.
    When I went it was nearly empty and I bribed a guard to let me into the house of Venus which was not open to tourists at that time. I was with a young lady and the guard let me pick a rose from the bush for her. It was a very memorable moment.

  • @SewolHoONCE
    @SewolHoONCE 2 роки тому +29

    One more, “Been there.” Christmas vacation, 1964, while a student of George Pepperdine College Year-in-Europe, second group. My clearest memory is a street with no pavers. The report was that the marble pavers were taken to Naples to build new mansions.

    • @paoloviti6156
      @paoloviti6156 2 роки тому +7

      It is rather typical of the people of Naples as they always claimed that they love their city but they couldn't care less if they find roman floors or whatever and they cheerfully destroy it or sell it off to the black market. Many times I heard about it but it really makes angry...

    • @SewolHoONCE
      @SewolHoONCE 2 роки тому +8

      @@paoloviti6156 Similar story in Bath, England. The brick arches over the Roman Baths were mostly intact until the late 1800’s. Then black top paving was invented. The road builders found crushed Roman bricks to be an ideal aggregate. When I was in Bath, only part of one arch remained.

    • @silviamilamas
      @silviamilamas 2 роки тому +2

      @@paoloviti6156 that’s just offensive, and I’m not even Neapolitan. People all over Italy (and beyond) destroyed ancient artifacts and buildings, to make churches and other buildings. You can see Roman slabs used in many churches in Rome, Milan and many others.

    • @paoloviti6156
      @paoloviti6156 2 роки тому +2

      @@silviamilamas it is true what you are saying, my deep apologies, I've been living in Rome for many years and for business I went very often in Naples and have a lot of friends there and visited many places around there.....

  • @lynnedelacy2841
    @lynnedelacy2841 2 роки тому +12

    Having visited Pompeii- this fills in the gaps in its history for me - thank you
    That crowd of tourists is astonishing I went in April 2006 - a 50th birthday treat and there were only a smattering of visitors and I had the pleasure of seeing the large statues by Igor Mitoraj scattered throughout the site which brought an ethereal feel to an already atmospheric site

    • @lynnedelacy2841
      @lynnedelacy2841 2 роки тому +3

      @ez icarus not your call

    • @alistar2590
      @alistar2590 2 роки тому

      @@ezicarus8216 Geez we get it your a sad loser irl but you dont need to vent your pitiful frustrations on someone sharing a nice piece of their life.

  • @2.7petabytes
    @2.7petabytes 2 роки тому +4

    I’m so glad I found your channel! Excellent work on all of your videos I’ve viewed so far!

  • @ftr1453
    @ftr1453 2 роки тому +7

    Excellent as usual. Love to learn things about Classical Antiquity with your videos.

  • @123ghj123ify
    @123ghj123ify 2 роки тому +2

    Just wanna say, I found your videos a week ago and have basically binged all of it. Love it and keep up the great work my fellow history nerd!!

  • @VanderlyndenJengold
    @VanderlyndenJengold 2 роки тому +27

    Is that a representative phot of tourists that visit? I was there twice, in the mid 80s and 1990 and I found myself alone in an avenue of tombs and the second time my pal and I 'fought' in the arena, with only two other people wandering in after five minutes.

    • @toldinstone
      @toldinstone  2 роки тому +32

      It's very seasonal. The crowds get pretty bad in the summer months, but I had Pompeii almost to myself once on a rainy day in spring.

    • @Gainn
      @Gainn 2 роки тому +5

      There's also a correlation between media coverage and visitor numbers.
      When the 'Pompeii' film came out it was rammed for a while.

    • @brucefreadrich1188
      @brucefreadrich1188 2 роки тому +9

      @@toldinstone Thank you! I live in Canada, but hope to visit one day and would love Pompeii (and Venice) to myself. I agree going on a quite day is great. (I once built a family trip around Disneyland's least busy day. Empty??? They guy in the Captain Hook costume was so bored he'd go on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride with you.)
      I love your channel and your videos.
      I am off to buy your book… which manor of purchasing it would net you the most profit?

    • @toldinstone
      @toldinstone  2 роки тому +3

      @@brucefreadrich1188 That's very kind of you! I get the same royalty from any purchase of a paperback copy, so feel free to use whichever site or store you prefer.

    • @drutalero2962
      @drutalero2962 2 роки тому +1

      @@toldinstone that must have been amazing

  • @madyjules06
    @madyjules06 2 роки тому +1

    Another fantastic video! thank you for this.
    This topic hits close to home for me as my mother’s entire family comes from a small town in Salerno that’s only 3 miles away from Pompeii. Grazie!!

  • @NicoLReino
    @NicoLReino 2 роки тому +8

    This type of things break my heart. It's sad to see all that destruction, all the artifacts and graffiti we could have now and it's gone.

  • @plotman394
    @plotman394 2 роки тому +1

    You're really good. I've been interested in ancient culture literally all my life and this format you have created is so satisfying.

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    @edkrakenn 2 роки тому +7

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    @barbarawillis5187 2 роки тому +5

    I always enjoy the illustrations and pictures with the story.

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    @Huntie_G 2 роки тому +2

    Your content made me go out and buy your wonderful book! Keep up your great videos dude!

  • @billiamtrillion
    @billiamtrillion 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve always wanted to visit Pompeii and your videos on it always intrigue and amaze me. Your book was also a great read!

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    @jodi4384 2 роки тому +2

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    @RindoRuruhara 2 роки тому +3

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    @Iconoplastt 2 роки тому +1

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  • @p1971cuda
    @p1971cuda 2 роки тому +9

    Modern destruction of ancient sites is just so depressing

    • @DJL78
      @DJL78 2 роки тому +3

      The third reich and nazi’s are worse. The destruction of these sites is a huge tragedy however I don’t think any of them where alive at the time as opposed to the millions of human lives lost in WWII.

    • @Shcreamingreen
      @Shcreamingreen 2 роки тому +3

      @@DJL78 People come and go, but it is art that prevails, and I assure you that many would be willing to sacrifice their lives for it.

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      @DJL78 2 роки тому

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    @TheGarrison979 2 роки тому +2

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    @Cottagepk 2 роки тому +7

    Absolutely delighted by your work! Thank you for putting together these great videos. Any chance your book will get an audible/audio book version anytime soon?

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      @toldinstone  2 роки тому +2

      Very kind of you! The audiobook will be released on October 26.

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    @sethbingo 2 роки тому +1

    This man has been blessed by the algorithm. Help his videos get more exposure!

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    @tamiam484 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this. I love your videos.

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    @bonsai5753 2 роки тому +1

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    @RickLowrance 2 роки тому +1

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    @bolbiiii 2 роки тому +1

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    It up!

  • @hamude6103
    @hamude6103 2 роки тому +1

    This was hella informative thanks

  • @rundbaum
    @rundbaum 2 роки тому +1

    those streets look 'slippery.' thank you, dr ryan!! . . .

  • @Joe_Peroni
    @Joe_Peroni 2 роки тому +1

    An excellent, informative video. 👏

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    @aubharris34 2 роки тому +1

    Great stuff!

  • @JustinBanks
    @JustinBanks 2 роки тому +2

    When you see the title and think it's a Mark Felton Productions video but instead its the other equally amazing history youtuber, toldinstone.

  • @spankflaps1365
    @spankflaps1365 2 роки тому +5

    I’ve been to Sorrento/Capri etc but didn’t get chance to go to Pompeii. But thinking of the terrain in that area, it would be very difficult to drop bombs accurately to hit the railway. Precision bombing was in its infancy.
    But by 1945, Mosquito Bombers could chase trains, and put a bomb into their tunnel.

  • @TheStargoose
    @TheStargoose 2 роки тому +1

    Fascinating channel. Thanks. Please would you consider doing something on the Eleusinian Mysteries?

  • @justinspringstun5836
    @justinspringstun5836 2 роки тому +1

    Very interesting man! I’ve never wanted to see this site more! Keep up the good work!
    Ps… ever think about doing limited walking tours of Roman and Greek sites? Tours with guests I mean, I would pay for that.

    • @toldinstone
      @toldinstone  2 роки тому +2

      Much appreciated! I don't lead tours myself, but my channel has an arrangement with Through Eternity Tours, an excellent company based in Rome. You can use the code TOLDINSTONE to get a discount on any of their tours in Rome or Pompeii.

  • @wojak6351
    @wojak6351 2 роки тому +5

    Last time I was here you had 50k subs
    👍

  • @mikebaginy8731
    @mikebaginy8731 2 роки тому +1

    A very interesting video, thanks.
    What a terribly tragic loss of precious history.

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b 2 роки тому +1

    My favourite fact about Pompeii is that 2000 years ago somebody was selling their wine under the name "Vesuvino". Marketing!

  • @T-6000
    @T-6000 2 роки тому +6

    This man is the Mark Felton of Roman and Greek history

  • @aka99
    @aka99 2 роки тому +1

    i like this video too! learned something new today!

  • @kristofferhellen7499
    @kristofferhellen7499 2 роки тому +1

    The Alexander mosaic isn't in the Naples Museum, it's in the House of Fawns.

  • @234dB
    @234dB 2 роки тому +1

    Who on earth would dislike Doctor Ryan´s videos -.-

  • @a_l_b__a607
    @a_l_b__a607 2 роки тому +3

    Really interesting video, I never knew about this. I wonder what the future plans are for preserving Pompeii.

    • @franchi8601
      @franchi8601 2 роки тому +1

      Pilfering the artifacts.... apparently this has been the trend from tourists. There has been stories where people are returning artifacts taken from ancient Pompei sites. These tourist are returning the ancient artifacts many years later claiming that the artifacts have brought them unrelenting bad luck into their lifes. This is a common consensus with many tourists pilfering ancient artifacts of Pompei. Most of the artifacts are taken from existing homes where there are dead bodies cast in ashes and from religious buildings.
      What people don't realize is that Pompei started as a city before Rome did and it had a very rough start and history.... and essentially ALL Pompei civilization moved upwards forming Rome to establish a new city away from the destruction of the volcano, bringing with them skills of art & warefare. Let's say that these artifacts are imbibed with energies of those ancient times for their specific uses or purposes of those ancient times that people are still ignorant and chose to be ignorant about, since it was a city existing before Rome.
      Pilfers deserve the bad luck that comes with the ancient Pompei artifacts.

    • @a_l_b__a607
      @a_l_b__a607 2 роки тому +1

      @@franchi8601 I the artefacts having ‘energies’ is simply false. I think we often try to associate misfortune to a specific thing whether that is a spiritual figure such as the Devil or in this case, an artefact from Pompeii.
      I completely agree with you that those looting from what is, already, a site irreversibly damaged by the modern world, deserve some of misfortune that comes to them.

  • @RedDevil66991
    @RedDevil66991 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting. I wasn't aware of this.

  • @AaronSikkink
    @AaronSikkink 2 роки тому

    How you manage to keep your commentary that calm and academic is beyond me. So much lost, I was fuming while listening.

    • @podomuss
      @podomuss 2 роки тому +2

      Better than what old Adolph planned on doing with the ruins lmao

    • @solinvictus39
      @solinvictus39 Рік тому

      @@podomuss Please tell us how Hitler was going to destroy Pompeii?

    • @podomuss
      @podomuss Рік тому

      @@solinvictus39 Considering what they did to numerous other sites, this is child’s play
      The Allied targets were railroad and ports. However WW2 bombers were relatively rudimentary and so led to what happened in Pompeii
      Axis looting was absolutely intentional, look up the Amber Room. Hell, just look up how much the Axis looted and destroyed

  • @robert506007
    @robert506007 Рік тому

    You and Mark Felton should do a Collaboration video on Ancient Roman sites affectedby WW2. I would think such a video would do quite well.

  • @krisconrad6980
    @krisconrad6980 2 роки тому +25

    The destruction of the Antiquarim was a crime. I didn't know this had happened.

    • @jonathansoko5368
      @jonathansoko5368 2 роки тому +13

      The amount of history we lost in ww1 and ww2 is unfathomable. Also islamic destruction of the pre islamic cultures in their areas is also depressing to think about.

    • @rudiruttger
      @rudiruttger 2 роки тому +4

      One more crime of the forces responsible for the bombing being necessary.

    • @rudiruttger
      @rudiruttger 2 роки тому +1

      @@jonathansoko5368 it's worth pointing out that the destruction by the latter was not a by-product of conflict, but the intention of the perpetrators

    • @sergpie
      @sergpie 2 роки тому +2

      @@rudiruttger
      Very important distinction.

  • @Pyris.s
    @Pyris.s 2 роки тому +5

    Great videos

  • @michaelbrownlee9497
    @michaelbrownlee9497 2 роки тому +2

    The allies also attempted to blow up the site of davinchis last supper, without sucess.

  • @gplito
    @gplito 2 роки тому +1

    I was there in the late 70's and no crowds at all...a few things were closed but basically, there were streets you could feel alone on . I would never want to go there in these crowds today.

  • @juliepoppy1021
    @juliepoppy1021 2 роки тому

    I went there in 1984, I didn't know this and it was so unexplored when I was there.

  • @jackoboyle7749
    @jackoboyle7749 2 роки тому +2

    Hi I was wondering if you post a video about the average happenings of roman soldier on guard duty and any cool anecdotes that may have took place. Congratulations on the book by the way.

    • @aka99
      @aka99 2 роки тому

      Great Idea. Until it happens, ever heared about the Vindolanda papers? That gives a unique inview

  • @ericastier1646
    @ericastier1646 2 роки тому

    "I want to ask you .. A SERIES OF QUESTIONS !"
    This sentence came from an old chinese movie subtitles. It was pronounced in a very intriguing way, and has stuck with me. You might find this weird, but i really liked how uniquely it was intonated maybe because it's translated from the far east. I cannot explain it. Suddently i am reminded of it in your video first minute.

  • @cherylsmith4826
    @cherylsmith4826 2 роки тому +1

    Heartbreaking all the ancient osses from bombing throughout the world. A GLASS WINDOW? That would have been neat to see

  • @paoloviti6156
    @paoloviti6156 2 роки тому +11

    I know very well the story of the absolute folly of the bombing of Pompeii destroying irreplaceable paintings, graffiti and buildings. I have been a few times to visit Pompeii and always fascinated me very much but I understood that this bombing was totally useless because the Germans didn't use much that railway nearby and already was in full retreat in that area. I really liked the concept of "precision bombing" that the Americans was so proud of when in reality they couldn't care less. Really sad indeed 😞😢

    • @brianmccarthy5557
      @brianmccarthy5557 2 роки тому +8

      If your country wanted to avoid bombing, which I've condemned elsewhere, it shouldn't have gone into two world wars to conquer other countries. There weren't any notable Italian voices against your foreign campaigns from Abyssinia in the 1890's through 1943, except for the Papacy. We're all aware that all modernist Italians totally ignored the Papacy and prevented it from intervening in both World Wars. Since 1943 what we typically hear is whining about the ravages of war and brazen attempts to act as if Italy was one of the Allies instead of a defeated Nazi partner. You might try accepting Italian responsibility, at least the responsibility of politically influential Italians, in creating the situation that led to the damage. And before you say it, I actually know Mussolini's background as a left wing Socialist and his parents lifelong relationship with Garibaldi and his followers.

    • @nicktamer4969
      @nicktamer4969 2 роки тому +3

      @@brianmccarthy5557 So, If a population is responsable for everything happent in its country, than everybody is free to bomb US for the 3 millions dead in Vietnam and Laos in the sixties, just for.....for what again ? Yes, precision bombing of the US air force was something about 30 km "precision" in the WW2. And never forget, Nazi germany forbid interacial marriages between 1935 and 1945; the last 12 US states allowed interacial marriages (under federal injunction) in 1967 (AD)... Dear Brian, every countries history is dirty, your not a Disney princess.

    • @tensaibr
      @tensaibr 2 роки тому +2

      @@brianmccarthy5557 he is a modern italian, who cares about what his country did in the past? Was he involved in it? No.

    • @ironhornforge7970
      @ironhornforge7970 2 роки тому +3

      That's what happens in a war, collateral damage.
      It's the Germans fault no one else's.

    • @paoloviti6156
      @paoloviti6156 2 роки тому +6

      @@brianmccarthy5557 it is a kind of moralism that I am not very interested because both USA and England were doing exactly the same like USA did with Cuba, partially with Philippines and had various colony around and the beauty was that England and France had more of the half of the world. Regarding Italy and what they did in Abyssinia was more or less a standard procedure as France and England did with their countries. My Italian grandfather fought in that country and Libya and he was in the area as a doctor where it happened that the used gas on the troops and population but he and his friends never saw or heard any use of the "famous" gas but he did heard mistreatment or killing around but nothing comparable to what the Russians and the Germans did later. Fact is that England, France, USA and other countries capitalised on the illegal use of gas "producing" witnesses/victims that looked healthy, therefore it was inflicted a very heavy embargo to Italy but angering very much the population and pushed Mussolini to join Germany. Talking about responsibility did Italy flattened cities or caused massive destruction as the allies did? Italians did accepted their responsibilities to a certain extent, both the left and the right, but did the allies ever accepted their responsibilities? The truth is that in war nobody is a Saint....

  • @DMSparky
    @DMSparky 2 роки тому +2

    UA-cam’s algorithm is quite interesting and also quite effective.

  • @tribudeuno
    @tribudeuno 2 роки тому

    Van Gogh’s Yellow House in Arles France - where Gaughan also lived - also suffered the same fate during WW2 …

  • @markmark2080
    @markmark2080 2 роки тому +1

    Spent the better part of a day there in '68, roamed almost all of the streets, maybe one person every 25 meters, very pleasant.

  • @Rnankn
    @Rnankn 2 роки тому +3

    The level of arrogance of the allies is incredible. To call the indiscriminate allied destruction of art and history unethical is insufficient. The presumption that their moment in history mattered more than the accumulated past, and entire future is unforgivable. Its a crime against humanity.

    • @DPryce
      @DPryce 2 роки тому +1

      Speaking of crimes against humanity, who was it that started the war? I don't think it was the Allies.

    • @solinvictus39
      @solinvictus39 Рік тому

      @@DPryce Actually, the allies had a lot to do with pushing the axis powers into the war. For instance, the USA deliberately put sanctions on Japan to cut off Japan's ability to import oil prior to Pearl Harbor. If the Treaty of Versailles wouldn't have been as unfair to Germany as it was, including stripping Germany of large portions of its land, there would have been no need for Hitler. Just as now where the western powers pretend that Russia had no justification for the Ukraine invasion, the allies in WWII liked to pretend they had no role in the lead up to the conflict. Historians always lie and cover up for those in power and victors in war.

    • @apollo53122
      @apollo53122 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@DPryceThe so-called Allies declared war against Germany, not the other way around.

  • @garyfrancis6193
    @garyfrancis6193 2 роки тому

    My father was there in 1943. I have his diary from that time. I have never read it. I should check to see if he mentions this.

  • @laura-bianca3130
    @laura-bianca3130 2 роки тому

    0:34 Pompei was empty this summer though, when I was there.
    We were in 4

  • @pzzuo1387
    @pzzuo1387 2 роки тому

    Reminds me of that saying "People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.".......

  • @That-Google-Guy
    @That-Google-Guy 2 роки тому +1

    That graffiti was dope! 2000-3000 years old, I love it!

    • @m.c.724
      @m.c.724 2 роки тому

      Graffiti, dude?! Reeaallyyyy?!?! What about those ancient skaters and the Roman rappers? You didn’t spot them in the video? 😂 P.s. they’re called frescoes…….although some of them are actually egg tempera or encaustic painting techniques……….jeeeeez

    • @That-Google-Guy
      @That-Google-Guy 2 роки тому

      @@m.c.724 lol not graffiti in the modern sense, but Pompeii is well known for its graffiti. Drawings of d*cks and lewd messages about local women were common and an incredible view into the minds of the citizenry of Pompeii :)

  • @feffe4036
    @feffe4036 2 роки тому

    Love pompeii, especially in low season spring but Herculaneum is a bit more special. I wish i could spend a couple of seasons helping out on digs there purely out of my own fascination of its archaeology

  • @tessat338
    @tessat338 2 роки тому

    On top of the bombings, Vesuvius also erupted in March, 1944. That's what the photo at 1:35 is showing. The ash damaged Allied aircraft that was based nearby.

  • @agrevstegvsgbytngyunm337
    @agrevstegvsgbytngyunm337 2 роки тому +1

    Burgers also destroyed the monastery of Montecassino and the ships of Nemi. Barbarians.

  • @4ur3n
    @4ur3n 2 роки тому

    damn I had no idea about the bombs there. I always thought that only the volcano ruined that little town, but 'eeeere we are

  • @James_BAlert
    @James_BAlert 2 роки тому +1

    While it is distressing to see the destruction of ancient ruins & artefacts by all sides during World War II, l can't help but think of Alexander at Persepolis & the Romans in Carthage , were those destructions⚡ necessary? 🤔

  • @petersicheri9670
    @petersicheri9670 2 роки тому +1

    Wtf. . Never knew this
    🤯🤯🤯🤯

  • @backspace1904
    @backspace1904 2 роки тому

    If your into UA-cam collaborations, I’d suggest doing a WW2 to antiquity related video with Mr. Mark Felton. Would be very interesting

  • @neptunevibe
    @neptunevibe 2 роки тому +1

    That's so sad

  • @moesypittounikos
    @moesypittounikos 2 роки тому +1

    It's madness letting thousands of people walked through the ancient streets. You wouldn't allow people to play tossing competitions with King Kuts mask

  • @NimN0ms
    @NimN0ms 2 роки тому

    We always think that war affects the present and future, but it can clearly affect the past as well.

  • @vinodpaul9596
    @vinodpaul9596 2 роки тому

    What happened to the rest of the roman settlements throughout Europe during the war. I cannot find any material online.

    • @GiuseppeLeopizzi
      @GiuseppeLeopizzi 2 роки тому +2

      The most important Roman settlements throughout Europe are modern cities today, so if you don't find them it's because you already know them by other names, (for example London), or they are incorporated into newly founded cities, or often archaeological parks.
      I'll give you an example: the ancient port of Rome, Ostia (Ostia Antica) is preserved and can be visited.

  • @andresmata4949
    @andresmata4949 2 роки тому +1

    Read Naples 44 by Norman Lewis. The most harrowing war memoir ever.

  • @Therileyrileyriley
    @Therileyrileyriley 2 роки тому

    I was hoping this was a mark felton collab

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 2 роки тому

    Man, so much history has been lost to wars. 😒⚔🏹🌋

  • @dnash2131
    @dnash2131 2 роки тому +2

    Why dont we roof sites, or spray them with some type of plastic sealant

    • @chompythebeast
      @chompythebeast 2 роки тому +3

      Sealant would likely be a bad choice as over time it would almost certainly erode the things it would be meant to protect, but many sites do have roofs constructed over them. One famous example similar to Pompeii is the "First Pompeii", the city of Akrotiri on the isle of Thera (Santorini) in Greece

    • @brianmccarthy5557
      @brianmccarthy5557 2 роки тому +1

      Roofs on metal supports with glass or plastic walls to seal off weather and UV rays. They could be fairly light structures, though they'd need to be built to the earthquake standards we use in California and Japan. Shouldn't be that expensive, though you'd need to deal with drainage issues too and mold avoidance.

  • @ChalkyWilston
    @ChalkyWilston 2 роки тому

    Tragic losses :(

  • @frankcommatobe8009
    @frankcommatobe8009 2 роки тому

    Can you post in 1080p?

  • @johnholliday5874
    @johnholliday5874 2 роки тому

    The Italian campaign was another one of Churchill's grand schemes. He may have been a great statesman but as with Gallipoli, his military strategies were not all that. Europe's "soft underbelly" yielded some of the hardest fighting of the ETO.

  • @kiellandiskool
    @kiellandiskool 2 роки тому

    what are your thoughts on Tartaria?

  • @RestoringReality
    @RestoringReality 2 роки тому

    Are you aware there's a town near Pompeii with a big plaque on the wall stating that erruption occurred in i631 or 1631, as our timeline has been manipulated by one thousand years?

  • @22vx
    @22vx 2 роки тому +2

    Damn those allies! Oh, wait, that's us.

  • @PowerfulDragon
    @PowerfulDragon 2 роки тому

    I think you sound almost exactly like Danny Pudi in this one.

  • @kelvyquayo
    @kelvyquayo 2 роки тому

    @1:44
    It looks like the planes are bombing Vesuvius but it’s the other way around!

  • @squttnbear
    @squttnbear 2 роки тому +1

    This depresses me.

  • @solinvictus39
    @solinvictus39 Рік тому +1

    Thanks, Allies!
    Not only did they intentionally destroy parts of Pompeii, but don't forget what they did to the Nemi ships and Monte Cassino among other places. Of course, all of this is tragic, but really nothing in comparison to the thousands of people burned alive in the firebombing of Hamburg and Dresden. Isn't "democracy" and "freedom" wonderful?
    Remember, the victors write the history books.