What tuning did you use? I have one of the first release JA Baritone. Now mine is tunning in A standard (ADGCEA) with 14-24-34-44-56-72 strings. I try a D'addario exl156 for a Bass standard E tunning and was funny but I have a 5 string bass and quit the low string and add the first of the original set. With pluggings the standard pickup are ok, but with a amp are noisy.
Having had initially opted for getting two of the Affinity JM HH models of the same era Squire released line instead of the baritone back in 2017?! I'm super stoked with the prospect of getting the HB JA! Great demo content BTW mate! Cheers!
Hello friend. I am interested about buying this baritone to be my back up Vi bass. I already use a Vi bass HB and I want to ask you if this baritone can be in E Standard one octave lower like the Vi bass. Could it be with the strings that the baritone have already? It is possible for this organ to take the 024-084 strings of a Vi? Happy new year Kostas Athens Greece
Dude how do you only have 550 subs?? the quality of your content is 🔥and so is your playing!! Great in-depth demo, this video convinced me to order one! Gonna be a long few days until it arrives...
pro quality vids. cant believe I just now discovered the channel. Found it by looking for demos after ordering my harley benton bass vi yesterday. keep up the great work
Sick vid!! Exactly what I was looking for. Love the different genre demos in between talking points. I’ve been super interested in getting one, and even though the quality control thing is a lil spooky, I still think it would be well worth the purchase for what I want to use it for. The Tiny Moving Parts shirt in the beginning is dope too hahahahah
Thank you!! Honestly most of the tech work it needs is super basic stuff - just action, intonation, restring, and neck relief. All pretty easily remediable things with no major consequences if you go slow with it
I just got this the other day, tuned it to E for bass VI and gigged it Wednesday. I really like it but the QC is basically what I kinda expected. Not hurt myself on any fret ends yet and it makes a cool Bass VI
Hello friend.when you say you tuned it to E standard to be Vi bass you did it with the 014-068 strings? Or with the 024-084 strings that a Vi can get? I am interested to buy this beautiful baritone to make it a back up Vi bass like the Vi bass HB I have.
I had this in my cart on day one and didn't pull the trigger. I needed to see reviews before I thought about spending money on it. Now that people have it in their hands it looks like everything I wanted in a baritone except a humbucker in the bridge. But I really like the P90s it turns out. I'm just going to replace the nut and tuners. But I do that to every guitar and know how to set up guitars so it's not a big deal. Great video!
Oh man! I felt the same about the P90, I had bookmarked a few replacement pickups and scrapped the plans as soon as the guitar turned up. I ought to replace the nut on this one, might be able to fix some of the tuning issues. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@KaiDown Replacing the nut will stop the tuning from being stuck and overshooting. 99% of tuning issues I've found to be problems with a bad nut. Putting some nut lube or graphite will help but replacing the nut will be the best option. I might go get the subzero rouge vi cause idk if I can wait 4 months for this to be in stock.
@@DoNotLookDown Yeah, seems like some Nut Sauce helped the issue out a little bit, still has some play where the tuners will go from being super tight to super loose.
@@KaiDown Oh yeah, I bet! I finally got some budget for picking up something like this. I was preparing to get the GuitarBass and mod it to my own liking (you inspired me), but this video made me rethink that. I think the JA Baritone is very close to what I would want, tho I'm not sure on the pickups. But I can always change those later. Thanks!
Asking to anyone already having the guitar and planning on changing the tuners. Not having the guitar yet myself it's difficult to say if these would fit just right on the guitar. What do you thing? Should I buy the guitar and the tuners in one go? @@KaiDown
I miss my 12:15 Squier Antigua jazzmaster, I sold in 2020 , and now is almos imposible to find here in mexico.. And now I want to recover the Baritone sound.. and this JA Baritone is perfect
Funny when I got mine it was fine right out of the box. Probably not perfect but I did not do a set up on it yet. The tuners are all that feel cheap, but the hold tuning great. It really sounds great.
Glad yours was great out the box, the stock setup is always a bit of a gamble - adding in international shipping, warehouse storages etc just increase the potential for issues. Tuners are definitely the weakest point of the guitar, but they're still not outrageously bad to the point of needing to swap them out instantly
Great video! Regarding the tunjng overshooting when tuning up d guitar it might be a nutslot issue, try reslotting the nut to the string gauge size and using pencil lead to lube the nut slot (lmao) Shud work!
Just got it today after they finally restocked I'd like to thumbs up the set up mine was horrible truss rod way to tight had buzzing all over upper registers. Plays like a dream now everything else on it was perfect but did need a good set up and fretboard was Sahara dry
Nicely done, enjoyed your video and breakdown of the guitar… also, your skills are 🔥🔥🔥 Been in the market for a baritone ( leaning towards the Squire Paranormal series) for a bit now but haven’t pulled the trigger yet. I mostly play in standard tuning but really wanna experiment with different drop tuning and let’s face it, most traditional guitars are designed for standard tuning and they sound flubby when dropped down no matter how well you set it up and intonate it because the scale length just isn’t conducive for the string gauge best suited for those drop tunings. Anyway, loved everything about this video. You rock!
Thank you so much! Glad you dug the video. 30" scale lengths are definitely my happy place with baritones, but I do have a couple around the 27" mark that I enjoy too
Really nice man! (Loved the riffs and how you shared your experience with it. I just got myself a squier jazzmaster, still not sure what tuning I'm going to leave it at but I'm starting with in on E. (I've mentioned this to 2 guitar techs and the reaction has been the same, surprised and "why don't you play a bass instead?" LOL
@@victormahtapene2573 I like it a lot, the design and the sound (I have it all the way down to E) however, the pickups are not that great. They do make a good sound but they’re super noisy, I’m getting them replaced so as far as cost/value it can get expensive for what it is. I have been looking at another brand the band LOATHE uses live but I think the new pups will do the trick
Awesome video man! It's great to see your passion come through both in the playing and how you speak about the gear. All you Brits are making me think I need to move there for the scene.... 🤔
P90s have a lot more bark to them, I would say they're more articulate than humbuckers, but the tradeoff is that they can get pretty noisy under high gain. I do think I prefer the sounds of single coils/p90s in ~30" guitars, the modern humbuckers in my Solar 29" sound too harsh when you try and get more articulation out of them
Great video! Was wondering what you would consider as replacement pickups on this bad boy? I received mine recently and as it is my first baritone - I am just learning how to approach eq & high gain with such low tuning while retaining good clarity. Would appreciate your thoughts 🙏
Thank you! Before deciding on keeping this one stock, I had initially planned to swap the pickups out for BKP Brute Force P90s, they’re semi-affordable and seem super aggressive
awesome vid! I've been looking at the GuitarBass for a 2 piece fuzzy sludge metal, do you think the GuitarBass will do a better job at filling the void of a bass player than this one? Always loved the sound of P90's but I feel like the GuitarBass fill out th low end a little better?
I think either one would be pretty comparable, the VS has the vintage voiced pickups which are pretty dark, but P90s have a lot more aggression to it that would work nicely for sludgy metal stuff
So the question really becomes how much of a bargain is this guitar if you're more than likely going to have to get it set-up, replace parts, or work around that general level of shoddy construction? It would seem then if you already own a Fender that it would just make more sense to get a baritone neck from Warmoth.
The tech work is all stuff that you can do yourself with tools provided - it's mainly just action, intonation, and relief that needed adjusting. The only part that needs replacing are the tuners, so you can expect to add £50 onto the price of the guitar. Still only brings it to £225 total. The Warmoth baritone necks are cool, but they're a little shorter at 28.625".
Nice demo man! I got mine last week. Indeed, the same issues, some buzz & terrible noise! The guitar looks great but sounds crap to me. I might change the pickups, pots & pickguard!
Great video mate! What is the difference between Harley Benton Bass VI Vintage Series or this one Baritone?! I want a a 6 string bass! I'm just confused about this baritone or bass VI from Harley Benton?! Can you help me mate? Great video. Well played! Thanks! 🙂 👍🏻
Happy to answer! JA baritone is geared more towards modern guitar players, while GuitarBass VS is a lot more vintage-vibed, and will work great as a traditional Bass VI. While there’s no set thing that differentiates Bass VI and Baritone, I consider the JA to be a long guitar, and the VS to be a short bass.
@KaiDown Thanks a lot for your help mate! How about the tuning? Is the same as Harley Benton B-650 Progressive Series for example?! You know that one? I'm not sure about the tuning!? 👍🏻
@@BrunoHenrique-jr1uj 6 string Bass VI is tuned EADGBe (more like a 6 string guitar, just an octave down), while regular 6 string basses are tuned to BEADGC
@KaiDown Thanks a lot mate! I want a Hooky Viking similar sound, like New Order, Joy Division, The Cure, The Chameleons, The Smiths, The Sound, The Stranglers, Talk Talk, etc... So I think a regular 6 string bass tuning would be better isn't it?! A real bass sound but 6 string instead 4 or 5! 👍🏻 🙂
Thank you!! I've got a good mic, I just plugged it into the wrong port for this vid so it used the camera mic instead 🤦♂️ Lesson learned, thanks for checking it out!
Just got mine last week. Mine needs some work but there were no deal breakers. Just wondering if your pole pieces on your pickups are in line with your strings? Mine is good on the bass strings but as soon as I get up to my highest string they're missing the pole piece entirely on the neck pickup especially
Mine lines up close to perfectly, but it doesn't really matter regardless outside of visuals. It won't affect the tone in any way, unless yours are way off.
great demo! never played such a long scale. how would you describe the transition from a normal scale guitar to the 30 inch scale length? is it hard to play or do you get used to it in a couple of days?
It's a little jarring at first, but it shouldn't take more than a couple hours to feel natural, unless you're doing some crazy Holdsworth-style stretches on extended chords
dont even know if anyone will see this but i have a question for those that have owned 30 in. baritones, can you tune it to b-b? like a standard baritone would usually be tuned. if i get one of these suckers i'd want to be able to cover a wider range but would the string tension be too high with the higher tuning (albeit standard baritone b-b is still low)?
You can, but rather than a baritone set you’ll probably need 11-54s instead, which presents some issues regarding string length. You’ll need to go for Stringjoy, Kalium, Winspear or The String Source rather than the big brands
Oh yeah, the camera mic is omni directional and picks up the room sound 😬 thankfully my main mic is directional and doesn’t pick it up too much, I just have to remember to plug it in 😂
The issue yoi described with the tuners sounds more like a a sticky nut not allowing the string to pass through, building tension behind the nut then suddenly letting it go and sharpening the note too much.
Hi! Just received my new JA Baritone, but even with a small amount of distortion in the amp I can hear a lot of noise/hum/buzz coming from the speaker. The Only way to turn down considerebly this noise is to close all the way up the tone or use both pickups at the same time (I think emulating an Humbucker?). Said this, it's this normal? I've read and watch a lot of reviews and no one had complained about this kind of issue.
These are single coil pickups, so they can pick up mains hum more than other pickups. This depends on all sorts of things - wiring in your house, the gear you’re using etc. You might have better luck with a power conditioner. I haven’t really noticed any significant noise issues with mine, but I play through plugins - ground loops are much more prevalent with real amp rigs
So I'm primarily a bass player, and I really want to get into baritone guitar. This looks like a perfect opportunity, but I'm wondering now. Would that be better than Bass VI by Harley Benton or should I get the said Bass VI? I know that I would mod Bass VI with just putting a hotrail to the bridge as I want to get into djenty guitar-playing.
Good question! I'd say if you're looking to play it like a baritone guitar, the JA is definitely the better option. It just doesn't really need any modifications, which is really nice. If the JA and GuitarBass were available at the same time, I don't think I would've touched the GuitarBass
Its kinda a necrobump, but ive been into the VI world for years and have tried everything at this point. The regular VI pickups are the worst, the magnets pull too hard the thick strings, they feedback badly too. The harley benton comes with ceramic strats, and dont have this problem, and are easily changed to rails, thats what im using atm The p90s id say are what sounded the best for me in any way, but the hum is very strong, aand its the hardest to mod Theres a new aria pro 30” too that comes in hs configuration 🤔
Did you change your mind and make any mods to this guitar or has keeping it almost standard been good enough? Im waiting for the left handed model to be announced but its getting snatched up as soon as it is lol
I'd been looking into P90 shaped humbuckers for a while before the guitar arrived, but now that it's here I'm not actually too worried about modding it. It's such an awesome guitar, even bone stock
Thank you! I believe this video was using Winspear's 14-76 drop set, though I've since moved up to the 15-80 drop set so that I can dig in a little harder with my pick
Kai, if you slap a set of bassVI strings on this, do you know of any tuners that will fit the thick strings? I recently got a 27" baritone acoustic that I slapped the HB locking tuners on and the 56 string BARELY fit in there. I've ordered a JA Baritone and I was thinking of putting that bassVI stringset on it, but those are like 76s or something. Regular tuners will not work! Any ideas?
@@bucketsmith Ahhh, I see what you’re saying! I think most split post tuners should be able to take an 80, but most locking tuners will need to be drilled out to accommodate the thicker strings
Apologies for the camera audio on this one.. The Rode mic was plugged in, but it was plugged into the headphone port and not the mic port 💀
What tuning did you use?
I have one of the first release JA Baritone.
Now mine is tunning in A standard (ADGCEA) with 14-24-34-44-56-72 strings.
I try a D'addario exl156 for a Bass standard E tunning and was funny but I have a 5 string bass and quit the low string and add the first of the original set.
With pluggings the standard pickup are ok, but with a amp are noisy.
Having had initially opted for getting two of the Affinity JM HH models of the same era Squire released line instead of the baritone back in 2017?!
I'm super stoked with the prospect of getting the HB JA!
Great demo content BTW mate!
Cheers!
Hello friend.
I am interested about buying this baritone to be my back up Vi bass.
I already use a Vi bass HB and I want to ask you if this baritone can be in E Standard one octave lower like the Vi bass.
Could it be with the strings that the baritone have already?
It is possible for this organ to take the 024-084 strings of a Vi?
Happy new year
Kostas Athens Greece
Dude how do you only have 550 subs?? the quality of your content is 🔥and so is your playing!! Great in-depth demo, this video convinced me to order one! Gonna be a long few days until it arrives...
Thank you so much!! Enjoy it, and let me know what yours is like - would love to hear some more experiences with these
Some hypnosis from sleep token in that intro was spicy
glad someone else caught this lol, although sounded more like The Offering i think
We definitely need this in a lavender sparkle finish. I might have to buy one and do that myself hahahaha
pro quality vids. cant believe I just now discovered the channel. Found it by looking for demos after ordering my harley benton bass vi yesterday. keep up the great work
Thank you so much 🙏
The only real gripe i have with this thing, is that hb didint commit to a jazzmaster shaped body like the subzero did
That's fair, I am pretty partial to the more rounded offset shapes but the sleek lines of the traditional JM shapes are awesome too
Sick vid!! Exactly what I was looking for. Love the different genre demos in between talking points. I’ve been super interested in getting one, and even though the quality control thing is a lil spooky, I still think it would be well worth the purchase for what I want to use it for. The Tiny Moving Parts shirt in the beginning is dope too hahahahah
You should get an affinity strat and put a nice Fender tele neck on it instead
Thank you!! Honestly most of the tech work it needs is super basic stuff - just action, intonation, restring, and neck relief. All pretty easily remediable things with no major consequences if you go slow with it
I just got this the other day, tuned it to E for bass VI and gigged it Wednesday. I really like it but the QC is basically what I kinda expected. Not hurt myself on any fret ends yet and it makes a cool Bass VI
That’s awesome! What QC issues were present on yours?
was it anything a setup wouldnt fix?
Hello friend.when you say you tuned it to E standard to be Vi bass you did it with the 014-068 strings?
Or with the 024-084 strings that a Vi can get?
I am interested to buy this beautiful baritone to make it a back up Vi bass like the Vi bass HB I have.
I hear The Offering, sounds sick!
just bought one and some hipshot locking tuners too. Can't wait until it comes!!!!
Great Video Kia. Thanks for all the info on the new Harley Benton Bass VI. Can't wait for Thomas to get some more in.
Thank you so much Gary! Hopefully patience pays off and they bring this one out with some more variants 💪
I had this in my cart on day one and didn't pull the trigger. I needed to see reviews before I thought about spending money on it. Now that people have it in their hands it looks like everything I wanted in a baritone except a humbucker in the bridge. But I really like the P90s it turns out. I'm just going to replace the nut and tuners. But I do that to every guitar and know how to set up guitars so it's not a big deal. Great video!
Oh man! I felt the same about the P90, I had bookmarked a few replacement pickups and scrapped the plans as soon as the guitar turned up. I ought to replace the nut on this one, might be able to fix some of the tuning issues. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@KaiDown Replacing the nut will stop the tuning from being stuck and overshooting. 99% of tuning issues I've found to be problems with a bad nut. Putting some nut lube or graphite will help but replacing the nut will be the best option. I might go get the subzero rouge vi cause idk if I can wait 4 months for this to be in stock.
@@DoNotLookDown Yeah, seems like some Nut Sauce helped the issue out a little bit, still has some play where the tuners will go from being super tight to super loose.
Great demo, great song & mix and absolutely blowmind clean tones. Good Job Mr. Down!! 🤘🤘🤘
Thank you ever so much for checking it out!!
Will be getting one soon!! Thanks for the review!
Awesome stuff!
Given your previous vids on the GuitarBass, this was a very insightful video, thank you.
Thank you! It's nice to be able to have the both of them to hand to compare like this
@@KaiDown Oh yeah, I bet! I finally got some budget for picking up something like this. I was preparing to get the GuitarBass and mod it to my own liking (you inspired me), but this video made me rethink that. I think the JA Baritone is very close to what I would want, tho I'm not sure on the pickups. But I can always change those later. Thanks!
Awesome 😎👍👍 looks you got used to these bad boys of modern metal pretty great.. have a great journey with them!
came across this video since I'm looking for reviews before I commit to it, and random observation but we have such a similar riff writing style lmao
Sounds great in your hands. Brutal!
Thank you so much!
Great video! Concerning the tuners, Gotoh should have black vintage style locking tuners, at least on Thomann. Gotoh SD91-05M MG-T Locking 6L B
Thank you so much for the recommendation! These might just be the way to go
Asking to anyone already having the guitar and planning on changing the tuners. Not having the guitar yet myself it's difficult to say if these would fit just right on the guitar. What do you thing? Should I buy the guitar and the tuners in one go? @@KaiDown
@@gasparortiz6556 I kept the guitar for over a year with the stock tuners, I’d say try them out for a bit first
@@KaiDown cool! thanks for the video and your answer!
I wish you were my guitar teacher ,riffs are so sick dude !
That is major high praise - thank you ever so much!
I miss my 12:15 Squier Antigua jazzmaster, I sold in 2020 , and now is almos imposible to find here in mexico.. And now I want to recover the Baritone sound.. and this JA Baritone is perfect
I'm glad this guitar came along, managed to kill off my GAS for the Squier without having to spend £1000 on it!
thank you for showing the possibility to swap with humbuckers
Funny when I got mine it was fine right out of the box. Probably not perfect but I did not do a set up on it yet. The tuners are all that feel cheap, but the hold tuning great. It really sounds great.
Glad yours was great out the box, the stock setup is always a bit of a gamble - adding in international shipping, warehouse storages etc just increase the potential for issues. Tuners are definitely the weakest point of the guitar, but they're still not outrageously bad to the point of needing to swap them out instantly
Tomorrow! It’s coming tomorrow 🤘Sick! Can’t wait 😊
Yesss! Let me know what yours is like!!
Great video! Regarding the tunjng overshooting when tuning up d guitar it might be a nutslot issue, try reslotting the nut to the string gauge size and using pencil lead to lube the nut slot (lmao)
Shud work!
Thank you! I did end up fixing this issue with some nut sauce, the stock tuners ended up being completely usable and I've kept with them since
Instant sub. Well deserved Sir
What a bloody filthy sounding riff!
Thank you!! 🙏
Just got it today after they finally restocked I'd like to thumbs up the set up mine was horrible truss rod way to tight had buzzing all over upper registers. Plays like a dream now everything else on it was perfect but did need a good set up and fretboard was Sahara dry
Nicely done, enjoyed your video and breakdown of the guitar… also, your skills are 🔥🔥🔥
Been in the market for a baritone ( leaning towards the Squire Paranormal series) for a bit now but haven’t pulled the trigger yet. I mostly play in standard tuning but really wanna experiment with different drop tuning and let’s face it, most traditional guitars are designed for standard tuning and they sound flubby when dropped down no matter how well you set it up and intonate it because the scale length just isn’t conducive for the string gauge best suited for those drop tunings. Anyway, loved everything about this video. You rock!
Thank you so much! Glad you dug the video. 30" scale lengths are definitely my happy place with baritones, but I do have a couple around the 27" mark that I enjoy too
Amazing review! What is the song at 7:41 metalcore? It’s really awesome!
Really nice man! (Loved the riffs and how you shared your experience with it. I just got myself a squier jazzmaster, still not sure what tuning I'm going to leave it at but I'm starting with in on E. (I've mentioned this to 2 guitar techs and the reaction has been the same, surprised and "why don't you play a bass instead?" LOL
Thank you, and congrats on picking up the Squier! The "Why don't you just play bass" is one that you'll have to get used to 😆
How is the Squier Jazzmaster baritone? Is it worth it for $800 plus dollars?
@@victormahtapene2573 I like it a lot, the design and the sound (I have it all the way down to E) however, the pickups are not that great. They do make a good sound but they’re super noisy, I’m getting them replaced so as far as cost/value it can get expensive for what it is. I have been looking at another brand the band LOATHE uses live but I think the new pups will do the trick
Jazzmaster-like pick-ups have replaced P90s in the Harley Benton JA-xx models years ago. They must have chosen P90s here for their sound.
Awesome video man! It's great to see your passion come through both in the playing and how you speak about the gear. All you Brits are making me think I need to move there for the scene.... 🤔
Thank you so much Kevin! I will say, UK is nowhere near as glamorous as we'd have you believe 😆
@@KaiDown It's never about the place man, it's always about the people. There's some awesome folks making awesome music over there 🤘
Great video. How would you compare humbuckers vs single coil p90 pickups for this scale length? What are the biggest differences in sound?
P90s have a lot more bark to them, I would say they're more articulate than humbuckers, but the tradeoff is that they can get pretty noisy under high gain. I do think I prefer the sounds of single coils/p90s in ~30" guitars, the modern humbuckers in my Solar 29" sound too harsh when you try and get more articulation out of them
@@KaiDown Thank you very much
Hell ya bro. Sick riffs!
Great video! Was wondering what you would consider as replacement pickups on this bad boy? I received mine recently and as it is my first baritone - I am just learning how to approach eq & high gain with such low tuning while retaining good clarity. Would appreciate your thoughts 🙏
Thank you! Before deciding on keeping this one stock, I had initially planned to swap the pickups out for BKP Brute Force P90s, they’re semi-affordable and seem super aggressive
That first demo riff had to be a sleeptoken reference haha
Oh yes! 🔥
awesome vid! I've been looking at the GuitarBass for a 2 piece fuzzy sludge metal, do you think the GuitarBass will do a better job at filling the void of a bass player than this one? Always loved the sound of P90's but I feel like the GuitarBass fill out th low end a little better?
I think either one would be pretty comparable, the VS has the vintage voiced pickups which are pretty dark, but P90s have a lot more aggression to it that would work nicely for sludgy metal stuff
So the question really becomes how much of a bargain is this guitar if you're more than likely going to have to get it set-up, replace parts, or work around that general level of shoddy construction?
It would seem then if you already own a Fender that it would just make more sense to get a baritone neck from Warmoth.
The tech work is all stuff that you can do yourself with tools provided - it's mainly just action, intonation, and relief that needed adjusting. The only part that needs replacing are the tuners, so you can expect to add £50 onto the price of the guitar. Still only brings it to £225 total. The Warmoth baritone necks are cool, but they're a little shorter at 28.625".
It's not, more shitty clickbait.
Such a great content, bro!
Thank you so much 💪
Great review!
Hey thanks for the video! Do you think that it can wear a 100 cauge string (The fender VI strings)? And could you intonate it well?
Nice demo man!
I got mine last week. Indeed, the same issues, some buzz & terrible noise! The guitar looks great but sounds crap to me. I might change the pickups, pots & pickguard!
Have you set yours up yet? Mine was great after I'd adjusted the action, intonation and neck relief
@Kai Down No, I did not have time yet! But man, even if set it up.. the noise is terrible 😑
Great video mate!
What is the difference between Harley Benton Bass VI Vintage Series or this one Baritone?!
I want a a 6 string bass!
I'm just confused about this baritone or bass VI from Harley Benton?!
Can you help me mate?
Great video.
Well played!
Thanks!
🙂 👍🏻
Happy to answer! JA baritone is geared more towards modern guitar players, while GuitarBass VS is a lot more vintage-vibed, and will work great as a traditional Bass VI. While there’s no set thing that differentiates Bass VI and Baritone, I consider the JA to be a long guitar, and the VS to be a short bass.
@KaiDown Thanks a lot for your help mate!
How about the tuning?
Is the same as Harley Benton B-650 Progressive Series for example?!
You know that one?
I'm not sure about the tuning!?
👍🏻
@@BrunoHenrique-jr1uj 6 string Bass VI is tuned EADGBe (more like a 6 string guitar, just an octave down), while regular 6 string basses are tuned to BEADGC
@KaiDown Thanks a lot mate!
I want a Hooky Viking similar sound, like New Order, Joy Division, The Cure, The Chameleons, The Smiths, The Sound, The Stranglers, Talk Talk, etc...
So I think a regular 6 string bass tuning would be better isn't it?!
A real bass sound but 6 string instead 4 or 5!
👍🏻 🙂
Great review and points! Hope you get a better mic because the video and B-rolls are good!
Thank you!! I've got a good mic, I just plugged it into the wrong port for this vid so it used the camera mic instead 🤦♂️ Lesson learned, thanks for checking it out!
@@KaiDown Cheers! Btw what is the fret size and fret finish?
Tuning ang gauge of strings??? Im inclined to buy 2 HB. Great vídeo man!
I think for this demo it was 14-76 drop set from Winspear in Drop E, but I've since bumped the gauges up to 15-80 (still in Drop E)
Great video! Is it intonating correctly?
Yes it is!
Just got mine last week. Mine needs some work but there were no deal breakers. Just wondering if your pole pieces on your pickups are in line with your strings? Mine is good on the bass strings but as soon as I get up to my highest string they're missing the pole piece entirely on the neck pickup especially
Mine lines up close to perfectly, but it doesn't really matter regardless outside of visuals. It won't affect the tone in any way, unless yours are way off.
great demo! never played such a long scale. how would you describe the transition from a normal scale guitar to the 30 inch scale length? is it hard to play or do you get used to it in a couple of days?
It's a little jarring at first, but it shouldn't take more than a couple hours to feel natural, unless you're doing some crazy Holdsworth-style stretches on extended chords
@@KaiDown thanks for the info!
dont even know if anyone will see this but i have a question for those that have owned 30 in. baritones, can you tune it to b-b? like a standard baritone would usually be tuned. if i get one of these suckers i'd want to be able to cover a wider range but would the string tension be too high with the higher tuning (albeit standard baritone b-b is still low)?
You can, but rather than a baritone set you’ll probably need 11-54s instead, which presents some issues regarding string length. You’ll need to go for Stringjoy, Kalium, Winspear or The String Source rather than the big brands
@kaidown in your opinion could I use this guitar as a bass VI for post punk darkwave?
Voice over room mic could definitely benefit from some acoustic treatment FYI.🖖
Oh yeah, the camera mic is omni directional and picks up the room sound 😬 thankfully my main mic is directional and doesn’t pick it up too much, I just have to remember to plug it in 😂
Awesome vid, Kai! top notch! congratz getting this beast. which one do you prefer; the SubZero or the Harley Benton JA?
Thanks Kevin!! Really need to try a SubZero some day, haven’t had a chance to get my hands on one yet
@@KaiDown Ooow thought you got the Rogue6 last year and fully refurbished it to your wishes? 🙂
The issue yoi described with the tuners sounds more like a a sticky nut not allowing the string to pass through, building tension behind the nut then suddenly letting it go and sharpening the note too much.
In my experience it can be either, but in this instance it was solved with some lube on the nut. I've not needed to swap the tuners out on this one
Hi! Just received my new JA Baritone, but even with a small amount of distortion in the amp I can hear a lot of noise/hum/buzz coming from the speaker. The Only way to turn down considerebly this noise is to close all the way up the tone or use both pickups at the same time (I think emulating an Humbucker?). Said this, it's this normal? I've read and watch a lot of reviews and no one had complained about this kind of issue.
These are single coil pickups, so they can pick up mains hum more than other pickups. This depends on all sorts of things - wiring in your house, the gear you’re using etc. You might have better luck with a power conditioner. I haven’t really noticed any significant noise issues with mine, but I play through plugins - ground loops are much more prevalent with real amp rigs
So I'm primarily a bass player, and I really want to get into baritone guitar. This looks like a perfect opportunity, but I'm wondering now.
Would that be better than Bass VI by Harley Benton or should I get the said Bass VI?
I know that I would mod Bass VI with just putting a hotrail to the bridge as I want to get into djenty guitar-playing.
Good question! I'd say if you're looking to play it like a baritone guitar, the JA is definitely the better option. It just doesn't really need any modifications, which is really nice. If the JA and GuitarBass were available at the same time, I don't think I would've touched the GuitarBass
Its kinda a necrobump, but ive been into the VI world for years and have tried everything at this point.
The regular VI pickups are the worst, the magnets pull too hard the thick strings, they feedback badly too. The harley benton comes with ceramic strats, and dont have this problem, and are easily changed to rails, thats what im using atm
The p90s id say are what sounded the best for me in any way, but the hum is very strong, aand its the hardest to mod
Theres a new aria pro 30” too that comes in hs configuration 🤔
Did you change your mind and make any mods to this guitar or has keeping it almost standard been good enough?
Im waiting for the left handed model to be announced but its getting snatched up as soon as it is lol
Still totally stock, I didn’t even change the tuners in the end
Guitar fetish sells a p90 shaped humbucker and you can even get a pre wired harness that uses 1/8 jacks to connect. They sound great
I'd been looking into P90 shaped humbuckers for a while before the guitar arrived, but now that it's here I'm not actually too worried about modding it. It's such an awesome guitar, even bone stock
I bought one of these and have no clue how to set up a guitar, how screwed am i?
It’s down to chance as to whether you get a good setup or not, but setting up a guitar is a fairly easy thing to pick up. Well worth learning too!
Nothing more Thall than a Tiny Moving Parts shirt hahaha
Too right! 😆
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hello! what is that amps plugin?
ML Sound Lab Amped Flagship 💪
free?@@KaiDown
That was a great Demo Mix man!! 🔥🤟
It is a cover or an original yours??
Thank you! This was an original, inspired by Loathe and Vildhjarta 💪
@@KaiDown Nice job man!!👌
Great video !what strings are you using btw ?also great intro track
Thank you! I believe this video was using Winspear's 14-76 drop set, though I've since moved up to the 15-80 drop set so that I can dig in a little harder with my pick
@@KaiDown awesome man thanks! Recently got my self a sub zero paradigm, ,but i think ill get one of these too after seeing this vid :)
Kai, if you slap a set of bassVI strings on this, do you know of any tuners that will fit the thick strings? I recently got a 27" baritone acoustic that I slapped the HB locking tuners on and the 56 string BARELY fit in there. I've ordered a JA Baritone and I was thinking of putting that bassVI stringset on it, but those are like 76s or something. Regular tuners will not work! Any ideas?
I've got 80 gauge strings on it right now with no issues at all, you should be good!
@@KaiDown alright, but that would be on the standard tuners... Which are not that great
@@bucketsmith Ahhh, I see what you’re saying! I think most split post tuners should be able to take an 80, but most locking tuners will need to be drilled out to accommodate the thicker strings
@@KaiDown hmm thank you dude. I'll have a look around.
What the Tuning and string gauge are you use?
Currently I'm running 15-80 drop set from Winspear in Drop E tuning
Are there locking tuners that fit this thing?
I’ve been eyeing up the Gotoh SD91, they seem to be a good drop-in locking option
What’s the fret board radius?
I'll have to check that, I think it's likely 12" - HB seem to use that radius on most of their models
Have you played aria pro ii jet b'tone?
I haven't, they look cool though! I imagine I'd likely deck the trem but I love the vibe
thank you
You're welcome!
dam sounds great for 200 pounds, think i gonna get one
Time to Evertune it
Don't you tempt me boy
Just buy a new guitar if you want to Evertune...
@@ben5542 Right. Or don't.
Ex. Andrew Baena