Tighnari Party or Alhaitham Party vs Boss & Spiral Abyss【Genshin Impact】
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Tighnari actually came into one of the tops once in the top speedrunning leaderboard in abyss by the CN community.
His talent is to dish out huge amount dmg in a short amount of time, which is something you need to win the speedrun leaderboard.
It must be because it was during his banner. Abyss usually favours the Character Event Banners.
@vanthursday Bruh currently alhaitham banner… what you going on about tighnari banner lol
You mean people pull alhaitham then go back in time to tighnari abyss period to compare? 😅 just accept that tighnari is strong
@@vanthursday I mean, I never heard of characters like Itto, Ayato, Yoi going on top speedrunning leaderboards.
Always the usual Ayaka, Raiden yada yada. The fact that Tighnari, a standard character, came on one of the top is already something. Not all banner characters take the lead in the leaderboard during their banners.
@@vanthursday dude
.. THIGH IS A STANDARD CHARACTER AND ITS ALHATAIMS BANNER LMAO
ぼくのしってるげんしんじゃない…
親爺「え、原神って十数万かけて登場したキャラを全員完凸させてタルタリヤを殺すためのゲームじゃないの?」
@@あんちゃんちん-j1j ???「おれが犠牲になるよ」
@@あんちゃんちん-j1j いやいや、十数万…?数十万の間違いじゃ…
@@KT-zf1kg 数百万…
@@wvvwvvwvwvw 翻訳バグっててくさ
ティナリ完凸は隙間時間に一瞬で超火力出して下がるサブアタみたいな感じだな
ハイゼンは範囲攻撃かつ高火力両立してて上手い具合に差別化できてる
I’m thankful for having Tighnari
ティナリ…こんなんが恒常入りして本当に良かったんだろうか…
Alhaitham is really interesting and has beautiful animations. Especially the attacks that occur when NA'ing that have different animations with how many mirrors are activated. As for Tighnari. He only is usable in spread however he is so strong in single target dps that it just doesnt matter to me. Im glad i pulled tighnari since he is the character i had most fun with since Yelan
単体ならティナリの方良くて集団戦寄りならアルハイゼン向きな気がする人によるだろうけど
そうですね、自分が思ったのは課金者だとアルハイゼン=ティナリで無微課金だとアルハイゼン>ティナリだと思いました
Having Alhaitham made me appreciate Tighnari more. I still love Alhaitham but Tighnari is criminally underrated and is the best Standard character right now, I don’t might losing my 50/50s to him.
Guys, have a brain and don’t use this as a comparison for C0 lol…like hell you’re going to get similar results. Tighnari damage are very frontloaded, while Al Haitham comes in interval, you’ll get different results depending on your monetary power and situations.
Yeah, this is a whale account. At C6 R5, with a team of all 5 stars, even Diluc would shine.
草2人も強いんだけどさ
それより神子の強さが目立ってるんよ
敵が単体だとティナリで複数ならアルハイゼンの方が強いかなほかはあんま変わらん
彼は彼らをこれと比較するほど強くない
Пасаси
(ティナリは恒常キャラです)
There's only one keyboard face that can describe what I'm feeling rn while watching this. 0_0
タルタリヤ戦一瞬すぎて吹いてしまった
Thank you for making this.
Cool!! may i know your tighnari build??
I really like alhaitham's style and gameplay
But I think teghnari is way better DPS wise
Alhaitham is more of a driver I think
凸してるとお互いの凸効果の違いが出てくるので比べるのは難しいと思います やるなら無凸
Nada necesario almacén, nahida multi enemigos tignari único enemigo o otra compo
無凸なら超開花できるアルハイゼンが単体敵相手にも強い
The amount of em and Cr/Cd ratio on Al_Hetham ❤
結論
どっちも強い。
ライトユーザー向けの初歩的な比較をするならティナリは初撃当てるのにエイムが必要 アルハイゼンは鏡とかCTに対して頭を使わなきゃいけない 手先か脳内か、得意な方に合わせるのが最善だと思う
親爺さんのように初撃あえて足元に外して使う方が早くて確実だけどね
タル目線スキルで近づいてくる八重神子がもう恐怖
ティナリはスキルでタゲ外せるのと弓キャラってのが地味に普段使いで良い
Tighnari is wonderful. I was actually pleasantly surprised that he was faster than Al Haitham. But this applies, of course, only against single targets, but still! I love this fluffy boy. I want C6 тзт
I think the real difference is Alhaitham does most of his damage from the mirrors which take a second. I don't think Tighnari is a better damage dealer.
@@kieragard he is
@@kieragard you could see the multi target in the abyss comparison
And tignari last floor was a kinda bad run, so tignari is better in both situations
@@nexuhs. arguably henna's rotation with tighnari team wasnt the best on the last floor yae miko's turrets expired also you dont want to do tighnari burst before you ca first (you do less dmg bc u arent getting em buff) so he wasnt spreading (4:34) and he finished only 1 second later than alhaitham
@@groguwiwi I think he is at C6, but Alhaitham is better at C0 imo. Also, Tighnari falls really short in comps outside of spread.
P.S. I just remembered that Alhaitham's damage is AoE while Tighnari is single target, which makes Alhaitham's overall damage significantly higher than Tighnari's. So, yeah, Alhaitham has a better damage output than Tighnari.
ティナリは他のキャラが数秒に渡って与えるダメージをスキル後の3連射で圧縮できているからあのダメージで倒せる敵や圧縮した後に他のキャラに仕事があるパーティだと強い(そして単体向き)
アルハイゼンは敵の数や耐久力に合わせて鏡の枚数を調整したりスキルや爆発を使わなくても元素攻撃したりできる。(単体が本領だけど複数戦もできる)
現状のコンテンツだとティナリのテクニックの6連撃+元素爆発を耐えられる敵がいないからその後のDPSダウンを気にしなくていい分ティナリが強く見える
so true
そもそもナヒーダいる場合単体、複数関係ないじゃない🤣?
@@パリんそこが凸を重ねやすい恒常と限定の違いなんだろうね
@@パリん ティナリって再PU来ない系?
@@パリん 引きまくってる人からすると出やすいけど、無課金からするとーだね
ティナリは週ボスみたいな単体戦が得意で、アルハイゼンは複数と戦うのが得意だと思う
Тигнари хорош везде)
3週間前のコメントに返信するのもなんですが、アルハイゼンもどちらかと言えば単体向けですよね
@@t8767 если уметь обращаться хорошо с персонажем можно и одиночную цель победить и если их много тоже, причём с легкостью
@@t8767 ティナリと比べてアルハイゼンの方が範囲攻撃が多いかな…って印象だったので!!アルハイゼン単体戦でも全然強いですけどね🤔
@@窓ガラス-j7z 体感アルハイゼンは単体戦の方が強い感じです。確かにアルハイゼンの攻撃範囲は広いですが、前方のみに追撃なのでそうなると複数戦に強いとは言いづらいですね。ただ、ティナリとアルハイゼンしか持っていないと言う場合アルハイゼンを複数戦で使うでしょう。悪魔で比較した場合アルハイゼンは複数戦に強いというかんじだとおもいます
So basically al haitham is the dendro version of childe in terms of effectiveness in group of enemies
Yeahhh!
And people complaining about skill cooldowns. Yes.
@@kirin1230 enabler/dps role and quick swap playstyle. yes
@@cosmicstargirI The fact this is now a genre of characters is beautiful lmao. I love em both.
やっぱりEnablerの概念が浸透してるなあ
日本のコミュニティの多くはタルタリヤのことをアタッカーっていうのやっぱ良くないよ
こうやって聞くとアルハイゼンの実戦紹介の曲って神曲ですよね!!
Lost 50/50 to my first Tighnari (pleasantly surprised) and still managed to get Alhaitham with primos left. So this gives me an idea what both are capable of accomplishing 👍
こんだけ強い強い騒がれてるアルハイゼンに並ぶ、状況次第ではアルハイゼンより速いティナリが恒常なのおかしい
So Alhaithem shines more in multiple targets
Ppl thought he was dendro keqing, turns out hes dendro childe all along lol
That is the point. They both have different uses.
It's like comparing Diluc and Yoimiya or Yelan and Childe. One is better in single target, while one excels against groups of enemies.
@@vukkicos5688 how genshin community should have done while comparing characters instead of bias their mains
@@isthisayoutubechannel2277 I mean it is a videogame, most of the time is a bunch of kids with half a understanding of something screaming at each other
@@isthisayoutubechannel2277 I mean I main Tignari since his release and Al Haithaim is superior in any way. But idc I can beat the abyss with both of them👍
ティナリ本当に恒常キャラかよ
おティナリはとにかく使い勝手がいい。
他キャラとのスキル回しが安定して行える。デコイも優秀。スメル探索も便利。
弓キャラで打たれ弱いため、ボス戦等で攻撃を貰いすぎないように注意。
アルハイゼンはスキル発動中、継続的に火力が高くてスカッとできる性能。
でも鏡の管理とあまり長く使いすぎてると他のキャラのスキルがいつの間にか消えてる状態があるかもだから管理面で注意が必要。
スキルのクールタイムは長いけど崖登りや瞳探索の絶妙に面倒臭い所をショートカットできるのがありがたい。
長文失礼しました。
ほんとに概要欄にある通り
敵単体だとティナリ、複数になるほどアルハイゼンに軍配が上がる感じ…
無凸同士ならよりその差がハッキリ別れそうと思いました( .. )"
ティナリの方が強そう
こいつほんと恒常か?
Tighnari majorly underrated boss killer
ティナリは瞬間火力ルーティーン型で、配膳は継続型の高火力って感じする
配るな笑
I think this is the dendro version of Ayato vs Childe debate! All of them are super strong but one is great against a single target while the other is for groups of enemies.
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I mean ayato's aoe in general is better than childe's because it's off field and doesn't require enemies to be close to one another and his E has a weirdly huge range. i would actually argue childe might be better for bosses bc of the nuke
@@fluffy_magnus ayato has huge aoe but childe has quadratic scaling which makes him have better aoe dmg, so it kind of still goes to childe when it comes to aoe. As for ayato tho, I'd say he's much better on single target thanks to hyperbloom and burgeon (childe is pretty hard to manage in these teams).
Better comparison would be yoimiya vs diluc
@@maincheese7490 better ganti vs ayaka
単体なら圧倒的にティナリだね
対複数だとアルハイゼンに軍杯が上がる
Нет, не только на одиночные цели)
Tighnari/yae are just insane against single target fight.
Its so good to see how everyone is praising tighnari now, I remember during leaks tighnari was being shitted by meta players for having too low base atk and for being a worse ganyu lol. How quick the time changes.
I needed a Dendro DPS with my Yae Miko, so rolling for Alhaitham, I got bow user Alhaitham, so I couldn’t be happier.
Literally the best 50/50 loss I could’ve gotten.
True, but (we) still lost the 50/50...
@@ThommyTheThird but it’s not a bad loss.
Cuz I still got a Dendro DPS, and now, I’m SURE to win the next 50/50 cuz it’s not 50/50 next time.
I lost Al Haitham to Tighnari and fell in love with him and then pulled again for shits and giggles and got Al Haitham.
@@Drstrange3000 nice
I ALSO LOT AL HATHIAM TO DENDRO FOX but god I think I deserved it when I said “let’s pull for that dendro bitch” and I mean.. I got dendro 😂
ティナリは恒常キャラだよ( ^ω^ )
マジでティナリのホーミングとか普段使いやすいんよな
これを見て思うのはやっぱり原神って好きなキャラ使えばええんやなって...
i lost 5050 on weapon banner, aiming for alhaitham sword, got a skyward sword instead. cool video. showed me tighnari is as strong as alhaitham just a different playstyle
Weapon banner isn't a 50/50, It's a 1 in 3 chance.
@@ravenger2445 holy fuck my first draw is a win thank you i got rid of the curse 🥲 i won my first time
@@ravenger2445 yeah but still weapon banner has it, but 7525 instead 5050
The only thing tho is that tighnari doesn’t work in bloom team and al hailtham strongest team is hyperbloom
I actually got both in 20 pulls i got skyward and alhaithams sword.
I'm f2p btw,so Needless to say i was over the moon.
恒常キャラのティナリが限定キャラのアルハイゼンに張り合えるのがまずやばい。
ヒント
単体.複数
ティナリは今後星座が進んでいく可能性もあるからねー
Thighnari is the most fun dendro character kit wise
His charged shots are so satisfying and his ultimate ks also satisfying
どっちも良いところがあって、どっちもしっかり強い...やっぱり原神って神なんだなって思う。
あとどっちも同じ条件でしっかり検証してくれる親爺さんも神
you all think it's just Tighnari & Alhaitham showcase, until you see Yae do 46k - 85k per E tick 💀
Pulled for Alhaitham, got my first Tighnari instead. Possibly the second best outcome. 🎉
haha this happened to me too. After watching this, no regrets at all.
Ha, that's exactly what happened to my back then
No one talks about yae miko skill doing 60k 💀💀💀
C6 R5 + quicken
Bish slapping close to 150k every 3 seconds, off field, no downtime.
@@Tsareena54i yes, whale life 🤡
@@FF-dq2mo tru.
ティナリは精鋭狩りで使ってるけどなんも考えんでもいいのが楽。てか恒常キャラだし十分すぎる
出ないもん……ティナリ出ないもん…!!
@@とらねこ-n5j ティナリ四連続すり抜けてる俺が通るぜ
@@みみくそくん いいもん…アルハイゼン来たもん…
Im glad i lost 5050 on his banner with tighnari 😂 i just learned that alhaitham's mechanics are a bit complicated for my tiny brain to understand
Well if you do get him literally its keep 3 mirrors up at all time
So ult then chargs attack then e skill if u ever lose a mirror
im not guaranteed so IF i lose i hope its with tighnari!
@Super Childe may Nahida Bless us!
@@r3fian nahida gave me 4 monas in a row instead :/
ティナリ強すぎてセノが恒常の方がよくない??と思ってしまう
People aren't even talking about his Yae's amazing damage.
Yeah like she was doing 45k-80k+ like nothing
I have her weapon with crowned talent 60/200 and make around 15K 😢
Yae only do this dmg with constellations (like the difference btween C0~c2 Baal), C0 its close to Fishl even w/her signature weapon (less dmg than Beidou c6, but easiest to play).
Yae c0 still bad compares to another chara, really need kazuha and nahida to max her dmg
アルハイゼン息切れしないから楽
使い方上手いんやな、俺よく息切れさせてまう
結構息切れしちゃう
@@秋雨-g2s まじか、祭礼良いらしいよ🤔でもやっぱ爆発無い時は息切れしちゃうか…1凸すると世界変わりそうだけどね
コンボ覚えられれば割と息切れしないけど実戦でチャート通りにやるの結構難しいんだよねw
頭使うというかコンボ考えて継続火力出させるというのが天才のアルハイゼンらしい性能してるわ
Is this the power of credit card?
i feel that thignari powercreeps more of his c6 than alhaitham
I’m a f2p player and I got very lucky with getting raiden and tagnari, i started playing 3 months ago during cynos banner. Raiden I got on 20 pity and I got tagnari from a random 1 pull on the standard banner. They have made my life so much easier there even underlevled and still disroy everything. Pared with Yaoyao and Xingqiu. My new team is honestly great I’m very proud of how far I’ve come
I got 2 skyward pride from my standard banner and both were around 70+ pulls. I have been playing for around 4 months. I can't believe my bad luck. Not only i got back to back 5 star weapons but i got the exact same one
@@soumojitchowdhury151 I heard that there's some kind of unwritten rule to balance out 5 star items in standard banner so your next 5 star will almost certainly be a character
@@kasala965 again i got skyward blade instead of skyward pride this time. Back to back weapons
@@soumojitchowdhury151 it's possible to get two weapons in a row, but every 270 pulls on standard must have at least one 5 star character and one 5 star weapon. It's super hard to get that many acquaint fates for f2p though :/
@@kasala965 i got 3 back to back.
omg, 103k yae miko's pillar
完凸だと敵が柔らかすぎて違いがわからなそう
このティナリって子恒常なのガチやばい。
The way Tighnari just cheesed the bosses. 💀
故マッシュラプトル「僕一応草元素耐性あるんっすけどね...」
3冠して厳選もそこそこしてる僕をこんな簡単に超えるなんて、、金は偉大だ
holy mama the way tighnari finished childe
It's so awesome Tighnari's dmg is high
I would go for Tighnari
私も原神ってゲームしてるけどこの動画見て違うゲームだって事に気づいた
- *Everyone comparing them and discussing who better* -
Me: daaAMM THEY BOTH SLAPP SO HARD.😭🥹
えぇ...ティナリこれで天賦まだ9なの?
I think the winner here is yae miko😇😇💪
完凸したらティナリの方が強そう
螺旋のTAには完凸ティナリ使われてたらしい
Tighnari 🦊💚
俺の知ってる原神ってゲームに似てますね。
なんていうゲームですか?
Honestly never understand ppl who feel the need to compare strict on-fielder (can quickswap but probably be quite a waste since Alhaitham's ICD pretty much set him up to be on-field enabler like Childe...) to strict quickswapper to almost strictly off-fielder (unless you have C6 which turns her into quickswapper)...Who gives the fuck? They aren't even in the same position...lol
Ppl think same element + both dealing damage = insta comparison
It's still interesting how they perform either way. They kept up with each other pretty well despite their differences in playstyle, which I find pretty cool
Also big dmg numbers are satisfying to see lol
I don’t think people necessarily care that much, it’s just fun to see
its not that deep bro
Tighnari 💚💚💚
I didn't go for alhaitham since my tighnari is already pretty good man I want him c6 already
I love tighnari more
自分のティナリとダメージが1桁違うんだよなぁ…(遠い目)
ティナリつよ
アルハイゼンも強いけどティナリもすごいと思った通常だから弱いと言う概念を壊してくれる動画だなと思った
This general damage out put is insane… poor raiden
I have both and I love both. I just switch them because I can't choose lol
ハイゼン引こうとしたらまたティナリすり抜けて(1凸)
そのあと恒常で天空の翼でました。
これ絶対運営がティナリ使えっているでしょ
Surprisingly in 20th pity i got my guarenteed alhaitham and after 6 more pull i losy my 50/50 to tighnari
So lucky
Now I’ve another guaranteed 5*
Dendro ganyu vs dendro keqing
I honestly prefer losing 50/50 for Tighnari cons.. Now I only have him on C0 but he's soo easy to build and actually very f2p friendly since with a 3 star weapon he can already be strong enough (which is sharpshooter's oath, BCS Tighnari can make a full use of it's passive). But now that I got skywarp harp, it's a better option for him I had so far.
Other than that, his team need and rotation is easy to use. As long as you bring an electro character, , he don't need any other support anymore. Raiden and Yae Miko is the best option for electro slot since they have a great electro off field support. Fishcl is ok but pretty too slow to provide electro damage, her cons may fix her.
But of course to make this team better, just bring a healer and a shielder (better with any other dendro character for double resonance bonus)
FYI my Tighnari can kill a mirror maiden, fatui cicin mages and even hilichurl chieftain even faster than my any other dps. His skill helps a lot! He usually doesn't take any damage. I can solo Alzdaha domain with his team now. Thanks to him
裏から10万出してる八重が怖い
ティナリパーティー自分のと一緒のはずなのに火力が全然違う……すごい。
At least tighnari's CA charging time reduction from his e stays when you swap out of him🤭
Alhaitham gets a free mirror from his charged or plunge even after swapping out!
@@mozzarella6126 -every 12 seconds and it still disappears if you swap out🤭
@@yaemiko0614 i meant when you swap back in??
@@mozzarella6126 can you read? even if you accidentally swap out of him after doing a charge attack it will disappear
@@yaemiko0614 That sounds like a skill issue if you can't manage mirrors. a C0 Alhaitham outclasses a C0 Tighnari every time when played by an intelligent player.
つっっよ
Tighnari, the only standard 5* that I want to get C6
Me thinking 'i have all these characters, one day I might...' then I saw C6R5... ;_; maybe not.
ティナリほしいいいいい
申鶴すり抜けて、ティナリでたぉぁぁぁあ🎉
今日楽団のスコア52.9出たからティナリ育成するか
Already have alhaitham, but wanna loose 50/50 to tighnari so bad, why does it always have to be fkin diluc man:(