The African Origin of Mathematics

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  • @FromNothing
    @FromNothing  2 роки тому +8

    Go to www.mizizishop.com/ for high quality jerseys created for the black diaspora.

    • @sarttee
      @sarttee 2 роки тому +1

      No Durags, Jordans, Grills, Gold Necklaces? 😎

  • @atwilliux456
    @atwilliux456 2 роки тому +29

    So glad to see your taking about the part of black history that is not just slavery like so many people do, thanks man keep up the great work

  • @prophetofbara1214
    @prophetofbara1214 2 роки тому +50

    I'm not surprised math was invented independently in Africa. It's clear many forms of technology and science were achieved by many groups of people on their own.

    • @GlareBoxTV
      @GlareBoxTV 2 роки тому +1

      A video on the Engaruka irrigation system be great.

    • @samyasalama9393
      @samyasalama9393 Місяць тому

      Yes , what are these great inventions ? And which tribe in Africa invented the wheel ??!! Don’t count the Egyptians please , we are talking about the Subsaharan

  • @theblancmange1265
    @theblancmange1265 2 роки тому +16

    12 is divisable by 2, 3, 4 and 6, while 10 only by 2 and 5.
    This is why base 12, or multiplicatives of 12 were popular.

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 2 роки тому +15

    People tens of thousands of years ago were able to figure out math with a bone and a shard of rock. MY ass can't figure out the prime numbers without the tiny computer in my right pocket.

    • @goosebased
      @goosebased 8 місяців тому +1

      well that's the beauty of language and passing down knowledge and information. don't be too hard on yourself mate

  • @caleblott399
    @caleblott399 2 роки тому +5

    Why isn't this channel getting more views? These videos are incredible!

    • @xeon222
      @xeon222 Рік тому +2

      In a nutshell, most people(regardless of race) have their minds and perceptions pretty clear about what is assumed to be "Black" history.

  • @AdamBetweentheLines
    @AdamBetweentheLines 6 місяців тому

    Great video! I can’t believe it took me this long to find someone actually unbiased on these topics.

  • @Rkader11
    @Rkader11 2 роки тому +7

    Despite by beliefs I can't thank you enough for the amount of content convered about history on Africa (and other talking points) learn more here then I was taught in school lol.

  • @SamAronow
    @SamAronow 2 роки тому +5

    Excellent video! I look forward to the coming series.

  • @emerson3070
    @emerson3070 2 роки тому +6

    Enjoyed it very well...base 12 :)
    This is channel and others like it, are doing a great service, no WAY I would've learn this in school, or randomly come into this part of African history

  • @ColleenJousma
    @ColleenJousma 2 роки тому +7

    I really love our human history. We must honor our ancestors, even if it was much further in the past than it is for African and Black people today.

  • @muhammudbinislam7843
    @muhammudbinislam7843 2 роки тому +6

    There are carvings of a temple in India of a ambassador from one of the south African empire who brought a giraffe along with him to India some where around 1200 CE which means they were excellent navigators aswell. If this was the case then Africans constantly used to trade and exchange knowledge which also means we know calculus way before Europeans or any other white nation.

  • @murkyseb
    @murkyseb 2 роки тому +3

    Very interesting, great information I wasn’t aware of

  • @rosetownstumpcity
    @rosetownstumpcity 2 роки тому +2

    always happy when i get the notification that there is a new From Nothing video.... thanks for the content that is consistently informative, engaging, and entertaining

  • @veritasetcaritas
    @veritasetcaritas 2 роки тому +10

    "it has long been believed that Greece was the birthplace of mathematics"
    Actually Egypt and Sumeria have been credited as the birthplace of arithmetic, for over 100 years. I don't know any mainstream historian who says Greece was the birthplace of mathematics. Historians say Greece borrowed mathematics from these earlier civilizations, possibly through trade with the Phoenicians. What Greece is credited for is new forms of systematic arithmetic, especially via Archimedes.

  • @veritasetcaritas
    @veritasetcaritas 2 роки тому +5

    "However alternative albeit highly criticized theories suggest that the mathematical knowledge from the Nile Valley in turn came from an even earlier source from central Africa radiating into west Africa the Middle East and eventually Eurasia. This theory is actually quite possible due to a route of similar traditions traceable back through these respective regions. Unfortunately as with most of African history that indicates any level complex human thought or innovation this theory is highly scrutinized despite there being strong evidence to support it."
    I would love to see you do a video on this, citing the strong evidence to which you refer.

    • @FromNothing
      @FromNothing  2 роки тому +7

      Hello sir/ma'am! I am very pleased to see such a healthy level of skepticism about my video, especially when I'm already referring to similar skepticism from the thoughts of early Europeans scholars. If you'd like to review the information cited in this presentation, you are more than welcome to do so in the sources that I've generously cited, on the official From Nothing website. This is something that I do in every video and you are welcome to review the info in this resources any time you have questions.

    • @veritasetcaritas
      @veritasetcaritas 2 роки тому +4

      @@FromNothing thank you. I'm not intending to cast doubt on your statements, I'm just interested in the evidence since I've never heard this before. I have been a subscriber to your channel for a long time, and always appreciate your careful, balanced approach, and the fact that you cite and provide your sources.
      Looking at the sources you've used for this video, I see a paper on the Ishango Bone by Pletser (which I've read previously), and a paper on the Ishango Bone by Pletser and Huylebrouck (which I've also read previously). There's also a paper explaining the duodecimal system.
      I was hoping for sources related to your mention of mathematics emerging in Africa and then being transmitted to the Nile Valley. I was particularly interested in your sources for calculus being used thousands of years before the modern era.
      I've produced two videos on the Ishango and Lebombo bones already, reviewing videos on them by Home Team History, so I'm fairly familiar with the history of their analysis.
      For reference, I have "Black Athena" and "The Crest of the Peacock", so I'm aware of the foundation texts on which these ideas are typically based.
      Crest of the Peacock suggests some of the foundations of calculus were arrived at in sixteenth century India, but not thousands of years before the modern era. Black Athena doesn't say anything about calculus. This idea might have emerged after those books were written, in which case I'm out of date with the current research, so if you could point me to any sources for this I'd be very grateful. Thanks.

    • @elkranemonemo4453
      @elkranemonemo4453 Рік тому

      Understand something all that he is presenting is already shared, the African past is knowing of all we think we know now.

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 2 роки тому +3

    Be it adding, subtracting, multiplying, dividing, measuring, or and graphing many forms come into completion

  • @cavaugnsharkey2699
    @cavaugnsharkey2699 2 роки тому +3

    Road to 50k!!!

  • @bernardheathaway9146
    @bernardheathaway9146 2 роки тому

    Very good job! It is highly appreciated

  • @sarttee
    @sarttee 2 роки тому +3

    Use the Argon-potassium method to find out how old the bone is.

  • @CrowdPleeza
    @CrowdPleeza 2 роки тому +6

    Who are the descendants of the Ishango bone's mathematics?
    Are there people in the Congo who are known for their mathematics? I'd figure if that bone was mathematical then that math would have been built on over the years.

    • @FromNothing
      @FromNothing  2 роки тому +11

      Unfortunately their creators are unknown. The modern inhabitants share no relation to them.

    • @vanhuvanhuvese2738
      @vanhuvanhuvese2738 8 місяців тому +1

      If you know African history you know a lot was lost even by locals due to displacements and movements for example you will find one tribe that has method of sowing cloth lets call them tribe X they live in Congo however tribe X has also other members of tribe X who live 1000KM away in Zimbabwe THEY SPEAK SAME LANGUAGE AND SAME ANCESTORS and they dont know how to sow their own clothes but they know how to mine gold and use that to trade for clothes. Its only now that all African universities and individuals are cataloging all African knowledge and see how they can use it to develop their people or as individuals and integrate the knowledge in into schools and everyday culture where appropriate.

  • @StillerDenker
    @StillerDenker 2 роки тому +1

    I would really appreciate it, if you can do a video about Zara Yacob. He is seen as one of the first documented african philosopher.

  • @anneeq008
    @anneeq008 2 роки тому +1

    This was so informative!! One of your best videos!!

  • @reginaldgreene6092
    @reginaldgreene6092 2 роки тому +2

    BEAUTIFUL WOW 🤩

  • @j.gyamayaka5826
    @j.gyamayaka5826 2 роки тому

    Well I was hoping someone made a video about this.... aaaand here it is

  • @ISawABear
    @ISawABear 2 роки тому +3

    As a pasty mixed canadian guy. Thank you for taking on the challenge of presenting african history that often falls by the wayside unfairly.

  • @tobilobaokorodudu9594
    @tobilobaokorodudu9594 2 роки тому +10

    Don't really have anything to comment cause i just started watching, but ...............first.

  • @ColleenJousma
    @ColleenJousma 2 роки тому

    Those jerseys are AMAZING!

  • @veritasetcaritas
    @veritasetcaritas 2 роки тому +3

    "common forms of mathematics such as multiplication and division as well as algebra and calculus predate modern mathematics by thousands of years"
    I would be fascinated to see the evidence for people using calculus thousands of years before the modern era. Even algebra as the mathematical system we know doesn't date back any earlier than the ninth century, during the Islamic Golden Age. Prior to that some algebraic type functions were performed, but not systematically, and only in the form of problem solving. That dates back to at least 1,800 BCE, but that's not the algebra of today, or even of the ninth century.

  • @erikjrn4080
    @erikjrn4080 2 роки тому

    "The origins of mathematics" is more a matter of definition, than anything else. We can trace specifics, such as the current decimal system, with some accuracy. We can even say something sensible about the first sophisticated use of individual mathematical disciplines, such as that the early Egyptians are the first (known) to have developed sophisticated geometry (to redraw property lines after annual flooding). However, the fundamentals of mathematics may go as far back as humanity itself, in which case it was definitely developed in Africa. A possibly tens of thousands year old calendar (or, at least, purposeful notation of numbers) is fantastic. It says a lot about Africa, but also a lot about how old mathematical knowledge may be.

  • @Speedy300
    @Speedy300 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @bbobjs
    @bbobjs 2 роки тому +1

    Base 12 is actually VASTLY superior to using base 10 because 12 is a highly composite number while 10 is not. 10 is actually one of the worst non-prime numbers we could have chosen as base and unfortunately, we're basically stuck with it now.

  • @noxolotshabangu8055
    @noxolotshabangu8055 11 місяців тому

    Hopefully you will be able to confirm what about to say through research, the Ishango Bone is predated by the Lebombo Bone found in a cave in the Lebombo mountain range between eSwatini and South Africa. The Lebombo Bone is almost identical to this one and it dates to about 250 000 years old.

  • @JoeyTeam31
    @JoeyTeam31 10 місяців тому

    The Libombo bones are older

  • @charlestaylor8355
    @charlestaylor8355 2 роки тому +4

    I like the fact that you focus on many different sub-Saharan tribes, cultures and kingdoms but in my opinion, you shouldn't exclude North Africa either. There was no invisible wall keeping black people from North Africa lol. Ancient Kemet/Egypt was an African civilization and should not be excluded from African studies. For example: The Tashwinat Mummy, (sometimes referred to as the Black Mummy), was found at an archaeological site in Libya. It pre dates any mummification in Egypt and it was at 1 point in time a black African child in North Africa thousands of years ago. That's a short video you can do on and it's not appropriating anything because that child was black and the culture which mummified him was black. We must not be afraid to tell our history, just because somebody may feel offended. That's their problem and their lack of history of Africa. I really like this channel and appreciate the information that you give out to others. Keep doing you brother. Please don't take this as me coming at you, just giving my opinion, my 2 cents. All is well, be good and can't wait to watch the next video.

    • @f1i273
      @f1i273 2 роки тому +6

      Specifically black Africans have always been looked down upon & mocked in history, even by North Africans where many of them say they aren’t African.
      Sub Saharan African content is needed

    • @FromNothing
      @FromNothing  2 роки тому +12

      It's not there is an "invisible wall." It's just that North Africa hogs the spotlight and makes Sub-Saharan African history seem inferior or irrelevant. The moment people discuss the history of Africa, Egypt is like 99% of the discussion. Then if Sub-Saharan African history is discussed, it's largely in a negative context.

    • @charlestaylor8355
      @charlestaylor8355 2 роки тому

      @@FromNothing I get that but my experiences and my perception is a little different than yours. I see that a lot of times, when people talk about African cultures and people. They purposely leave out Egypt as if Egypt isn't an African civilization, as of Egypt isn't literally attached to Africa lol. They want to separate Egypt from Africa, which to me is impossible because at it's very core, it's character, it's language, it's kingship and cattle cults were African. I get it that Egypt takes a lot of the spotlight away from other African civilizations, when it comes to African history. Which when I create my own channel, I will talk about all of Africa, not just Egypt but I also think it's a disservice to not to include Egypt, for those who don't know that it was an African civilization as well. I would not only talk about Egypt by the way but other North African cultures as well. A lot of people don't even know about this black mummy in Libya that predates any mummification in Egypt and could be the origins of mummification in Africa, which would be outside of Egypt. There's another civilization in North Africa people don't know exist and people don't know was created by black Africans. Nabta Playa: this astronomical megalithic site in lower Nubia, is one of the oldest astronomical sites in the world and is never talked about ever. I would address that. See there's this notion that there wasn't a black presence in North Africa, which is completely false. It's racist propaganda that unfortunately is still being told as if it's the truth today. It's your channel, do what you like. Like I said before brother, just giving my opinion.

    • @FromNothing
      @FromNothing  2 роки тому +9

      @@charlestaylor8355 I get that but that. But I find all too often people make African history content and spend a great part of their time desperately trying to prove the extent of "blackness" that was in North Africa/Egypt. That isn't the goal of this channel. I am very well aware that there was "black presence" in North Africa but no more so than "white presence." North Africa was a cultural melting pot. Historically, most of its kingdoms/civilizations were predominantly neither black nor white but "brown" and/or mixed populations. I'm well aware of so-called "Black Mummy" from the cave in Libya. I'm also aware of Nabta Playa aka "African Stonehenge." I'm also well aware of Greek accounts of black Egyptians. I just think there needs to be focus on civilizations that were 100% unapologetically black African people, speaking black African languages and share cultural, historical, and linguistic heritage with the Black diaspora. Desperately clawing/clinging to black Egyptians does nothing for us in my opinion. I see it as scraping the barrel for some scraps from a civilization that is predominantly non-black despite having some black influence/presence throughout history. Notably the 25th dynasty and some of it's pharaohs. It is important to mention from time to time but I think it makes just as much sense to dedicate entire videos to those civilizations as it would to discuss the history of Persia on a European history channel. They share the same landmass and several ideas, people, and innovations as Europe but they are not at their core, an European civilization. I look at Egypt as the same. Sharing a lot with the rest of Africa but genetically, culturally, economically, and linguistically being more similar to civilizations of the middleast and primarily inhabited and ruled by people who don't look like me or speak the languages of my ancestors.

    • @GlareBoxTV
      @GlareBoxTV 2 роки тому +4

      @@FromNothing A great video that could be made is the use of fractal design in Bamileke architecture. Their style is beautiful and showed sub Saharan African architecture is varied beyond the negative stereotypes perpetuated by those outside the continent.

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm6769 2 роки тому

    🤠👍🏿

  • @twipameyer1210
    @twipameyer1210 2 роки тому +1

    6:33 you talk about prime numbers and show a depiction that includes several numbers of which very few are prime.
    there are 4 prime numbers in a row but that's pretty much it.

  • @GallowglassAxe
    @GallowglassAxe 2 роки тому +4

    Awesome video but I disagree that the base 12 is the same of the base 10. The base 12 is much easier to use and this is why English currency (pence, shillings, pounds) is base twelve. The base 12 lets you create fractions much more efficiently. 12/2 = 6, 12/3=4, 12/4=3. 3/4th of a dozen is 9. Now if you try to make a third of 10 then you have 3.3333.... and if you dived is by 1/4 you get 2.5. This makes the math much more complicated. There is an actual term for it but I don't remember. Also our imperial measurement (inches, foot, yards, etc) is also base 12 as well. It wasn't just some random measurements that people decide to throw together like you're taught in history books.

    • @FromNothing
      @FromNothing  2 роки тому +3

      You're right. I didn't think about it that way.

    • @jameson44k
      @jameson44k 2 роки тому

      There's nothing inherently more difficult about 3.333... (= 10/3) or about 2.5 compared to integers. The decimal system's 0.2 is non-terminating in base 12, so there's hardly any advantage for base 12 here. Imperial measurement (or U.S. Customary) also doesn't use base 12, as the only time 12 shows up in it is in 12 inches to a foot. The metric system is vastly superior at any rate.

    • @GallowglassAxe
      @GallowglassAxe 2 роки тому +1

      @@jameson44k Well you try to do 1/3 of 10 eggs over 1/3 of a dozen eggs. The math isn't as much a problem now because we have calculators on hand at all times but our ancient ancestors did not. That is why most ancient math systems are not base 10.

    • @jameson44k
      @jameson44k 2 роки тому

      @@GallowglassAxe Again, the decimals' 0.2 is 0.2497... repeating in duodecimal. I can't think of a situation where even with decimals, a "fifth of a dozen eggs" wouldn't be approximated to something less accurate or more workable. This is basically barter and bookkeeping, mathematics is much more than that.

    • @anthonyoer4778
      @anthonyoer4778 2 роки тому +1

      @@jameson44k 10 based systems are only divided by 1, 2, 5 and 10 evenly. 12 is divided by 1, 2,3, 4, 6, and 12. 12 can be separated even further and simpler.

  • @TherealElijhawatkins
    @TherealElijhawatkins 4 місяці тому

    11:11

  • @samyasalama9393
    @samyasalama9393 Місяць тому

    I am
    A Mathematician !! So , the discovery is a bone , of number base 12 , and you did not built on it !! Nothing !! And the Rest of the world use base 10 , and they came out with . Algebra from the Arab , Trigonometry from the Egyptians . Geometry , Greeks , and Egyptians, Calculus, from European , Zero from China . Add to that , Engineering Depends on all the the subjects mentioned above , and chemistry also need math !! so you are saying that Math was discover and developed in west Africa ????? Really !! Math is not just base 12 , or 5 .. it is accumulation of knowledge, time , efforts, and Education !! I am glad , that there are different asthmatics basses in Africa !! But this is a scratch with a pen when you talk about the Subject of Math and Calculus!! Math is the God’s truth !! ,

  • @kingza97
    @kingza97 2 роки тому

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  • @rich763690
    @rich763690 2 роки тому

    Sooooooooooo.................i'm the only that says eleven-teen an twelve-teen?.......................

  • @mikepowell2776
    @mikepowell2776 2 роки тому +1

    As with all your videos the subject is interesting, usually regrettably obscure, important and internally self-supporting. Although I understand the premise of your intros, using a third of screen time for them might be considered slightly excessive. Many of us know about Black History Month and some are even aware that the history of the sub-Saharan’Dark Continent’ wasn’t nearly as dark as European taught history suggests. Some ad-hoc viewers, though, might tune out before you get to the meat of your subject. That would be a self-defeating shame.

    • @FromNothing
      @FromNothing  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the advice. I did think about that and considered shortening my intro. However I decided to keep it as is because not all of my viewers are aware of Black History Month. It's a very American thing. Also "using a third of screen time" is nothing short of an exaggeration. Even if that was the case, I'd like to think that people would just click past the intro rather than exiting the video completely.

  • @thefrenchkiwi9435
    @thefrenchkiwi9435 2 роки тому

    Guess Zambia's attempt at sending people to Mars isn't so far fetch after all.
    But for real tho, this is quite interesting.

  • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
    @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 2 роки тому

    Next: the world's first animé?

  • @guillaumerusengo9371
    @guillaumerusengo9371 2 роки тому

    Technically Jabari is an arabic loanword.

  • @Matemo
    @Matemo 2 роки тому +2

    Hey Jabar, are you an astronomer? Coz you study the continent from a distance, never having set foot in Africa. Ever. Not even Morocco. And you've been running this channel for 6 whole years!
    Are you a Japanologist claiming expertise despite never having been to Japan?
    Or maybe you're just fixated on an abstract Africa that you read about in mouldy dusty books? Take a trip and plant your feet on the ground if you're really about this. And try and pick up a language while you're at it.
    Till then, you're merely a cultural astronomer. Not a historian.

    • @FromNothing
      @FromNothing  2 роки тому +11

      Since when do you have to physically visit a place to be considered a historian? Find me an official definition that says "You must have visted the region of study." That literally makes no sense. Just because I've never been to DRC that means the Ishango bone never existed and everything I said about it is a lie? Me never physically being there doesn't invalidate the sources presented. Not to mention, you're acting as if its easy to travel like that. Not everyone is financially capable enough for such trips, as much as I'd like to. I've also never claimed to be a Japanologist. My knowledge on Japan is surface level at best. Do me a favor and go after the racists and pseudo-historians. Not me. And if you have any questions about the accuracy of the facts that I present, you are welcome to check my sources or check with anyone from those respective regions.

    • @FromNothing
      @FromNothing  2 роки тому +13

      I'd love to visit Africa. I'd love to dig deeper into the history and cultures of its various peoples. I'd love to speak with griots, visit museums and ruins, and vlog my experiences. I just don't have the financial capability of doing so. With that being said, what I do now is the next best thing until I'm capable of accomplishing my goals. What I do now doesn't even scratch the surface of what I want in the future. Despite that, I feel like I do more than enough to be classed as a proper historian. Even colleges and universities refer to me for help and resources.

    • @hummingbirdstudio
      @hummingbirdstudio 2 роки тому +5

      @@FromNothing what a beautiful reply. I'd frame it if I could.

  • @RaphielHot
    @RaphielHot 4 місяці тому

    🤣its blackkk now its 2024 keep up