Atari Gamestation Pro Controller Compatability Testing | What Are Your Options?
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- The new Atari Gamestation Pro from My Arcade is a fascinating new plug-n-play gadget, but there were lots of questions about the controller, its possible use in Windows, and the potential to replace it with another USB controller of your choice. Let's find out!
Founded in 1972, Atari® changed the way we approached gaming - from the way games were designed to the way they were played. Atari’s iconic games, including Asteroids®, Centipede® and Missile Command® have been played by many millions. Half a century later, Atari® ’s legacy endures. The Gamestation Pro has over 200 games, including Atari® 2600, Atari® 5200, Atari® 7800 and Atari® arcade games.
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• Officially licensed titles.
• Packed with over 200 built-in Atari® + bonus titles.
• System connects directly to TV.
• Two 2.4 GHz wireless joysticks, inspired by the original Atari joysticks, include paddles for paddle games like Breakout®, Warlords® and many more.
• Intuitive user interface
• Game save options.
• Dynamic RGB LED lights.
• Includes USB power cable and HDMI® cable.
• Joysticks require 4 AA batteries each (not included).
• Titles include Asteroids®, Centipede®, Pong®, Breakout®, Missile Command®, Crystal Castles® and many more
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🚨 UPDATES 🚨 As we get further info and detail about compatibility, I'll try to keep this comment updated.
• There seem to be power considerations with Xbox controllers. I get best results using a charged wireless controller (under its own power) connected via USB for communication. Strictly wired controllers may or may not receive enough power from the USB-C port to function.
Isn't that red controller you were using a PS "4" controller? Not a 2 or 3? It looks like a 4. Now I'm not sure! 🤣🫨🤷🏼♂️
@@chrisnunya7171 Sure, if you say so. 😀 I am not that familiar with modern consoles, and even less so with Sony consoles.
@@GenXGrownUpYou sure you are Gen X? You sound more like a proper boomer.
I was born in 79, I know the difference between a Dual Shock 1, 2, 3, 4, SIXAXIS and Dual Sense (yes, I know the difference between a DS 1 and 2 and a SIXAXIS and a DS3).
Anyway, is good to know that they are finally listening to the customers, let’s see how much does that last. Atgames used to listen, now they are fucking back all of their customers by stripping out their devices of advertised functionalities.
By 2026, My Arcade will be back to their ways, I’m sure.
You should try the Retro-Bit Official Sega Genesis USB Controller... it can use either D or X input (you said X input works with the Gamestation Pro) and because it uses the Genesis button layout (namely A, B, C buttons in a row) this should be PERFECT for games like Missile Command Arcade with three bases.
@@GenXGrownUpyou going too do a add rom video in the future ? I'm more of a Sega/Nintendo kid, but I'm starting too like this little Atari Gizmo after watching what it can do so far .
This is a great video! Thanks for following up on the controllers!
Just subbed. Your presence in front of the camera is top notch. Your content is also great.
Well, thank you, Martin. That's very kind of you to say. I appreciate your subscription and your viewership! 😀
Thanks for the new info- The GameStation really is beginning to get more appealing as each day goes by!
Very helpful, 🙂 great demo...thnx again!
The question I have now is how a new controller will work on added roms. I’m sure we will see in a follow up 👍
Good question. From what I've seen so far I'd expect the same results with add-ons via SD. As you noted, I will have to verify in the next one.
This is great, I was wondering about other controllers! Gonna try it out.
All this thing needs is a really slick custom firmware and its the Atari killer app. Just ordered mine based on your vids- thanks for the info!
Great follow up Jon. With various Flash Backs and Mini console I'm seeming building a collection of various controllers for each. The pack in Joysticks will still be my preference as im looking for this to just be what i play 2600 games on, still its nice to know that my X-Box controllers can be drafted in if needed. 😊
Great info! This is turning out to be a great system. It looks like MyArcade made a better Flasback than AtGames!
To be fair, AtGames’ Atari Flashbacks aren’t a high benchmark, but the point is well-taken...
Hot dang more info!!! My arcade take my money!!!!
Hope that adding the roms vid is soon.🎉🎉🎉🎉
Great video Jon. X-Input should be good for USB Arcade/Fight Sticks :-) Thanks for sharing and keep up the awesome work!
Thanks, will do!
This is awesome. Thanks!
i've been looking for an USB joystick for my PC and this would be perfect...thanks for the video!
We bought the GSP for our kids Christmas. There is no doubt that they will like the new sleek look as well as wireless controllers. We have a retro arcade near our home so they will recognize some of the pre loaded games and I’m looking forward to loading some of my old favorites. The smaller platform as well as the wireless controllers will make it perfect to connect to the tv in our mini van for road trips. And lastly the cost is a no brainer, I grew up with the original but don’t have the time or money to buy cartridges.
Could you please do a video on getting 3-4 player capability up and running for the paddle games? Would having 4 Gamestation Pro controllers let you do 4-player Warlords, Breakout, etc? That would be great to know. Thank you, and keep up the great work!
The fact that the joystick works in Windows is a major selling point for me. Thanks for doing this! I hope someone finds a way to make the paddle compatible.
Very cool. Now we need to test the analog joystick with 5200 games that use it. I am sure it will not have support, but would be nice. Would also be nice to add a spinner for tempest and the few 2600 games that used the driving contoler like indy 500.
That is cool. I really need one of those systems!
I have a Windows XP computer that I bought at a church sale for five dollars! I then used it for Mame games. It’s a little outdated but it works. I used a controller for it and then my cat chew through the wires and I thought I was screwed for the moment. But then I plugged in both PlayStation mini and Sega genesis minis controllers, and I’ll be damned , it worked. I can’t do any twin state games like Robotron but it’ll definitely hold me over until I find another PlayStation 2 like controller.
If someone made an adapter to use traditional atari controllers I’d be all in on this. Someone please make a 3rd party product! Maybe even throw in extra inputs for Nintendo etc. I can dream right?
Since getting the Gamestation Pro, this has been my #1 channel for information, and I hope you will continue investigating 3rd party controller support for this system. I would love any ideas or investigation on whether the 8bitdo Arcade Stick can work with the Gamestation Pro, I can only get button presses to work in the menu, but joystick navigation will not work in spite of the controller supporting X-input mode, and I fully enjoy using this controller with the Atari 50 collection on Steam.
Cool to learn this. I don't think it will have any impact on my decision though. I don't have any other types of controllers anyway. And I don't see me buying them either. But it is fascinating to know that some others will work with it.
very good...hey love your atari hat jon! i love japan as well . . and there rich gaming retro hardware and soft....the control issue is better now !
Thanks! I think I picked it up on a fire sale when they were closing down the Think Geek website.
Hey great video and I made sure to subscribe! I know I'm a little late to the party, but did you mention or test the spinner with emulation? Particular with MAME or arcade emulation for Arkanoid, etc?
Thanks and welcome! I have several follow-up videos that you'll no doubt find useful, but on the topic of the paddle, it's not observed in arcade emulation. Arcade games had spinners whereas the GSP's controllers have paddles. The non-stop nature of a spinner makes paddles with hard-stops sadly incompatible.
@@GenXGrownUp that makes sense. I was looking for a quick way to add Atari 2600 paddle to emulation and maybe spinner games to my existing arcade so figured I'd check. Also, I did see the Gamestation Pro on sale so I've been catching alot of your content and review of it. I appreciate the explanation!
What a great time to be an Atari fan
I'm always in AWE when I see the Steve Austin action figure on your shelf along with Oscar Goldman and Mask-a-tron.
😀 I've even featured Steve in a few of my videos in the past. Most recently last Christmas for the Hallmark ornament.
Props on an ad that's not annoying or too long! That's a PS4 controller by the way (the touchpad gives it away).
Thanks - we're trying to stay above water but definitly try to keep ads super short and to the point. Glad that's working. I have since learned that's a PS4 controller... I obviously don't have much knowledge of Playstation! 😜
This is an excellent video. In my top three of possible cons for this comsole was controller replacement issues/possibilities. An Xbox controller will suit me fine when I feel like it might be best to preserve the integrity of the sticks that come with the console. Let's face it, joysticks designed like this, these days, break. I would prefer that My Arcade offer replacements and I've put in an inquiry to find that out, but in the meantime, it's great to know that I have alternatives. I'm running out of reasons not to buy this. Being in Canada, I'm having issues with that (as of yeaterday) and still a bit on the fence. My other major issue is that the paddle doesn't work with paddles games, should I get into the SD card. The SD card is the biggest selling point for me because I already have the Flashback 9 Gold, by Atgames. It too has an SD card slot, which I am using so I have more than half of the games available on this. That means I care most about 5200 options, 7800 options, 8bit, 16bit, and arcade. I already have a bootleg nintendo with 300 games on it so that doesn't help this cause but at least I can narrow down my 8bit list to games I will actually play, on this console...that helps in the end. So I'm bouncing ideas around. I'm looking for reasons not to buy but I'm running out of reasons. This video is very helpful. I'll share what My Arcade tells me about my inquiry here, IF they respond. I had similar inquiries in to AtGames and they never responded...bastards. lol.
Anyways your GSP vids have been excellent. I was available to enjoy the live stream two days ago and even watched it again yesterday to make notes and I don't have many, so that's a good thing. ✌
Thanks for watching, and I'm very gratified to know I'm helping you to make an educated buying decision that's right for you! 😀
Ordered a couple of 10-foot USB C-C cables to connect my Xbox X controller. Do you know if the C button (trigger button on the pack in controller) maps to any Xbox button? I find the included remote SO maddening to use, I’m hoping I can ditch it for everything but the paddle games. Thanks for all the great videos!!!!
Hi, I would be interested how the Atari VCS Controllers like the Classic Controller and the Modern Controller are working with the Gamestation pro? And if, does the paddle function of the Classic work, too?
Hello , great review by the way ! Any chance on testing the Xbox 360 wired controller, there’s a good chance many viewers have one !
Yeah, I knew that would be a common one out there, but I don't have a genuine one handy. I did have a knock-off that I tested (not in this video) and it did nearly nothing, so I didn't include it. I don't know if that's representative of Xbox 360 controllers in general or not, though. I suspect this aftermarket version didn't have Xinput protocol compatibility.
Im curious on the gamestation pro controller how it behaves when its plugged into the Atari VCS! I know its not exactly what you show here, but i want to k ow if i can buy those controllers to use on my VCS. Thanks for any insight!
This would be so cool if the spinner would work on Mame like games Tempest, Frontline...
Great video! This does not influence whether I get the system or not but it is good to know that something else works. I have it on preorder. I don't plan on using another controller unless the game becomes really awkward. Nothing is more nostalgic than using a joystick to play classic Atari games.
Glad it was helpful! I appreciate you watching. 😃
Or, as with Battle Zone and Robotron, two controllers duct-taped together. (I'm Canadian, duct tape is a multi-tool)
I think it's hyperkin, that make the trooper or trooper 2 Atari joystick. I almost got it for PC to play Atari stuff, I wasn't sure if it had enough buttons.
Any possible steering wheel controllers work on this console? I'd love to play Night Driver 76 with an actual steering wheel (I'm aware it'll likely only be digital left and right but I'd be happy with that).
I want the original arcade Battlezone.
I just saw a gamer modder channel and he was showing a controller frame a company was making 3d printed, that locks the two gsp controllers side to side and he was playing Battlezone that had the original vector graphics, it looked exactly like original. So i guess ya can find the program through some of the providers. I cant recall the name of the peripheral company, i will get the name and add it on here.
@@d.aardent9382Did you find the peripheral company name?
I think it would be worthwhile to see if any 2.4Ghz controllers out there can connect wirelessly to the Gamestation Pro. 8bitdo and others make a few, and for those that are bluetooth: a USB-C to USB-A adapter plus either 8bitdo's or Mayflash's dongle should be able to support the rest.
I very briefly tried this last night. I have a Logitech F710 controller that I use with my Commodore 64 (TheC64 from Retro Games). I set the controller to xinput mode and activated it, but my Gamestation Pro couldn't connect to it directly. I think the F710 uses the 2.4 GHz frequency band, but the console couldn't see it. I want to plug the controller's RF receiver into my Gamestation Pro to see if that works, but as yet I don't have a USB-A to USB-C adaptor to try it. I may get one soon, but at the moment my priority is to get some USB-C cables so I don't have to use batteries in the controllers. I will try the Logitech controller in Directinput mode and see if that works, but I doubt that it will because even in Xinput mode the console and controller didn't detect each other's carrier signals.
Curious if the VCS modern controller works with it? This was fun, thanks for taking the time.
Just as interesting is the classic style vcs controller because it does have paddle functionality too.
@@dad7275 ohhhhhh ya!
I have a Bluetooth dongle controller that I use on my pc. I'm definitely going to try it on it when I get mines.
Excellent video, the one thing I wanted to use was the paddle and even in the Gamestation, Tempest Arcade, unfortunately, doesn't use the paddle knob. I do hope someone writes a custom driver that takes advantage of part of the stick.
Thanks for watching. Tempest doesn't utilize the paddle because it requires a spinner - full 360 non-stop rotation.
@@GenXGrownUp thx, that makes sense.
Wondering if a Windows/Mac standard trackball or trackball mouse would work with games like the arcade or 5200 versions of _Missile Command, Centipede, Millipede, Crystal Castles_ and etc - especially because there are so many trackball games in Atari’s early history. Given the 5200 is a reworked Atari 400/800, which do recognize Atari’s trackball not just as a joystick, but also as an arcade-like trackball (using the switch on the back to toggle joystick/trackball input), for most if not all of those games, on an Atari 8-bit (working from 35-40 year-old memories, I remember that at least the OG and XL machines’ _Missile Command, Centipede_ and _Crystal Castles_ all work, as does _Crystal Castles_ on the Atari 2600, actually), then there’s a decent chance that the Gamestation or an emulator could work with a USB trackball, like an arcade trackball, for at least one of the versions on the Gamestation. Considering there are more than two buttons on modern USB trackballs-like controllers-and that they’re “standard sized trackball inputs,” some of those extra buttons might/could also work as Menu, Start, and Home buttons, too - if not for the 5200 games, then maybe for the 2600 or arcade versions. In fact, a mouse might actually work the same way, accounting for speed, which would be a great alternative to using the joystick, too, even if the included joystick accounts for speed, as an analog stick...
Also a good point that the spinner on the Gamestation is an analog input. So, that bodes well for at least a driver to accommodate USB trackballs...
I could think that, you could connect another controller with it and it would ask for the buttons or joystick(s) so it can map how it would be compared to the Atari controller. if there was to much buttons it would just remove it as it never existed, and it would also remember certain maps of controls on certain controllers. Like if you connected a hmmm…. A ps4-5 controller? it would remember it for future notice. But for the tech we currently have in 2023 i don’t think we can create a memory card like that.
hopefully you read all this and share your opinions bellow!
correcting me is accepted here.
Hey Jon! I was wondering if you have tried the Xbox One controller with any SNES games now that the GSP emulates it post-firmware update? Love your channel!
I have. I cover that (and the challenges) in this follow-up video: ua-cam.com/video/eHWGigO0M7Q/v-deo.html
Thanks for watching! 😁
Here's a good one to try considering and it DOES have paddle controls is the new Atari VCS classic controller. It also probably has as many buttons so it MIGHT just work!? The paddle functionality of the classic VCS controller is what would really intrest me.
The VCS paddles work when connected to a pc via bluetooth or usb but they only work correctly in stella.
That’s a nice option!
Quite fascinating. Would like to have seen how it worked with Missile Command controlling bases individually on the Xbox controller.
You're the second to suggest that and that was a total miss on my part. I'll remedy it just as soon as I can!
Did a quick update: ua-cam.com/users/shorts1gtUQX1Ve9U?feature=share
I bought an Xbox XJS controller from Amazon for $44, plus 10' usb c to c cables. The controller works great too. I did discover that I had to unplug the controller first , then turn on the Atari GSP, then I could plug in the Xbox controller and it functioned perfectly. I just read here that the xbox center button works as the home button. I will try that today. I just added some Genesis games and having a blast playing Pitfall, Earthworm Jim and Road Rash II.
Would you please send me a link to the controller you've verifed to be working? UA-cam may trap it for review, but I'll see it. Thanks.
Yes please share the link or pic. Thanks
This controller looks to be very promising to use with the Arcade version of Tron in some capacity. I would like to see that tested at some point.
Could be quite good. That'll require either a driver to try this on a PC, or an update to the GSP firmware to enable paddle control on games added via SD card.
@GenXGrownUp Have you tried any other 2.4 Ghz controllers wirelessly? Just wondering if that is possible, I know 8bitDo makes some for Switch that are 2.4
If someone figures out paddle, spinner, trakball support it'll be a must buy.
Working on it :)
Here's my updates:
I tried a pair of wireless PS4 (no name aftermarket) controllers, and they absolutely did not work.
I tried a wireless XBOX One controller (official, not aftermarket) 3:03 and it works fine (when plugged in with a USB cable). However, this controller works fine plugged in even when there are no batteries in it. So, it essentially functions as a wired controller. I wonder how a native wired controller would work.
I'm still not getting compatibility with Turbografx roms and the controller, though. Hopefully a future Myarcade firmware update will fix that.
I’ve got another experiment for using a controller to the GameStation Pro. I have an Xbox controller (model # 1537) that uses a USB-A dongle when I’ve used this in my PC. It makes me wonder how well it will perform with that USB-A to USB-C adapter. Would it work the same as wired?
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i like the console design but the joystick... i'm curious how the asteroids (arcade) works with that joystick. does it control the same as the 2600 version? is the control mapped to work with only one button (fire)?
It varied from controller to controller, but the Xbox One had A & B for sure (I don't remember if I tested for the third button) as I use them both in the video.
Have you tried the Xbox One controller with the Genesis games (like Immortal or Zany Golf) or with the NES games?
I didn't do a full multi-system test, but I would expect the same compatibility on those games as the others since they're invoking the same configured emulator.
Are there any recommended arcade-style joysticks to use with the Gamestation Pro?
Two questions.
Is there any sort of controller remapping? I'm left handed. I think I would like to use the "B" button as the main fire button in 2600 games.
When you add 5200 games, does the stock stick work an analog joystick or strictly digitial?
All bad news for you currently. No remapping available at the moment, and I found added 5200 games that required analog control to not be very playable.
@@GenXGrownUp Oh that's a shame. Hopefully those issues can be fixed in firmware updates. I'm assuning that you can update the firmware, correct?
What about using an Xbox One controller? Does the left stick work? You showed the dpad which is great. Does the left stick work too?
@@SatoshiMatrix1 Indeed, I have updated the firmware a couple times. That's right - note toward the end I play Yars' and show using the left analog as well as d-pad.
Have you tried plugging the GSP's joystick into your A500 Mini? Last night I plugged it into TheC64, which is a Commodore 64 replica also made by Retro Games. And, it worked! Yes! I couldn't believe it. I probably wouldn't recommend using it because the button mapping is a bit odd and confusing, but it does work.
I haven't tried it, but since it's recognized by my PC, I would epect it to behave similarly on compatible devices. That's cool. 😀
In theory then the 8bitdo arcade stick should work. That could be fun for the arcade games (or any of them). Cant wait to get mine and test
I wish I could've tried an 8bitdo, but both of mine are fully wireless. Those would be a great option if they work well.
I just picked up a used GSP for $50 bucks today! I'm going through these old vids because I'm a big ol' 50-year-old nerd!
Fantastic! I hope you find them helpful. 😁
@@GenXGrownUp Dude, they're amazing! I've already gotten the 1.30 update and I'm adding games! I've not added the 1.30c yet, I've got a gig to play tonight and I'm afraid I won't want to leave my house! :D
Oh man, someone has got to get the paddle knob working when using emulators... That controller w/Retropie would be awesome!
If I had to guess, I'd figure compatibility hinged on XInput support. It used to be that you could just plug in a USB controller and the system would recognize it, at least as far as the most standard inputs. Then Microsoft introduced XInput, and even though it offered no advantaged over DirectX, developers soiled themselves with joy over it, and it suddenly became the must-have feature in everything game related.
I arrived at the same conclusion.
To be honest, I think the controllers are quite cool. I don't see the point on using "my own". My main problem with the unit is that it contains less than 140 Atari games (no Pitfall, no Ninja Golf) and 60+ Piko games I already own on the Evercade.
💯💯💯😉👊✌🤚👋 So many "different Ataris" in the latest years or even months...
Did you also try playing games with A, B & C from various systems (since there are multiple different emulators in play)? Like Missile Command, a Genesis game and an Arcade Game? Oh and two button support for 7800 as well of course.
Yes, the compatibility was uniform across all platforms. Not every controller had every button available, as you saw, but with the Xbox One, I had all three buttons represented (not just in the order you might expect).
This may help: ua-cam.com/users/shorts1gtUQX1Ve9U?feature=share
I’m a 50 something year old gamer. The Atari 2600 was my first console. I am looking at this and the Atari 2600 plus. I am not sure what console is the best for me.
Understandable. I don't intend to take sides, but I do plan to do a pre-release comparison video of the two and weigh their pros & cons.
I am curious if there is any compatibility with retro arcade controllers? Have you tried any Arcade cabinet controls with this system?
I've tried lots of stuff including 8bitdo and some random controllers that came with other products, but nothing so far beats that wired Xbox One controller for me.
Have you, or anyone else, tried the Modern and Classic controllers that came with the Atari VCS? Would seem to make sense to have compatibility with other Atari products.
It's interesting to note that if you change the colour of the colour ring on the controller and it's connected to your PC, I believe button 9 'latches' when you select white, and button 10 'latches' when you selected orange. It might be the other way around. I don't understand why the A, B and C buttons aren't simply mapped to 1, 2 and 3, and I don't know why the paddle control isn't mapped to a throttle or something. Since the Gamestation Pro doesn't work too well with the Retro Games Gamepad for the A500 Mini, I have doubts that The Joystick for TheC64 will work too. I really want to try my Logitech F710 controller with the console, but I don't have the correct adaptor right now.
I didn't know about the color latching inputs. That's interesting. In fairness, the controller wasn't marketed as being compatible with PC, so My Arcade is well within their rights to utilize the inputs however it works for them.
@@GenXGrownUp That's true. It's easy to tell that the input is latched actually, because if you select a colour then turn off the controller but leave the console on, the lights on the console revert back to the colour changing mode. I've only put batteries in one of my controllers, but I'm curious to discover whether changing the colours on one controller will automatically change the colours on the other controller too, even if you don't press the light button on the second controller. I'm also a little surprised the the console and controllers don't remember what colour setting you selected when you turn them all off, that said, it makes sense now since the controller latches the inputs when you change the colour mode.
I purchased an xbox controller to try with the updated to 1.30 on the gamestation pro. I got it to work somewhat. Not all the buttons work as your video did. I saw you find out what buttons do what from the joystick and was wondering if I was able to assign the same imputs of the joystick to an xbox controller so I am emulating the joystick. I did confirm the power problem and got a controller that is battery operated. If I can remap, can you point me to a how to do it guide. I have never done it before.
There's no way to remap buttons from the GSP currently. I talk about this in the latest SD card (post firmware) video.
Would the XBox controller work better with SNES games like Street Fighter II on GSP? Those titles are missing XYZ buttons.
Quite odd the GSP controller reports so many buttons, maybe they used a generic firmware for a dual analog controller and didn't bother changing?
I think it would be worth checking the GSP controller with more systems, like the raspberry pi, android and gamepad-compatible browser games.
Does the xbox elite controller have any delay issues like the wireless controller that comes with it? It is unfortunate that we need to buy a 3rd party controller that costs twice as much as the GSP.
None that I've noticed. Additionally, I'm hearing that if you hardwire the GSP controller, the wireless latency vanishes.
So . . . where didja get that cool 2600 skin for your Xbox Controller?
I knew somebody would ask! www.decalgirl.com/artwork/5428/wooden-gaming-system
I appreciate that they've made these other options viable (via USB-C) but if you don't like the joysticks, IMO, don't buy the console, as the controllers consume a large percentage of the price tag. I am a very harsh critic of the _Evercade Vs.,_ but a huge portion of the value of that console is the quality of the controllers (i.e., they're good, and if you have a positive preference for the d-pad on classic Sega Saturn controllers, they're even great)… nobody would be well advised to buy either one (the Atari or the Evercade) as an emulation box to plug your own arcade sticks into _if they didn't_ like the included controllers (and there are many, many competitive options to consider, BYOJ).
Good points. Thanks for watching! 🤔
Thoughts on using an X-Arcade Tankstick?
I don't have one - does it support X-Input?
That’s next on my list. USB c adapter, cables, and a controller or two.
Thanks for the review. Now when the joystick is not ideal, one can just use a xbox compatible controller. Sweet.
Controllers aside, Man I’m so split on game station vs 2600+. I watched everything you put out, I’ve seen other UA-camrs criticize the emulator that Retro77 uses and wonder: is it that bad? Does 2600+ and/or use that retro77 emulator?
Seems to me then a good "universal" option for "Bring your own bluetooth controller" would be an 8bitdo original red brick usb adapter in X-Input mode. That perfectly emulates XB360/XBOne controllers and will connect with a rather extensive list of Bluetooth controllers from many manufacturers. You then get to maintain wireless play as well... I also can't wait to try my MadCatz Arcade GameStick (XB360 usb joystick with a spinner).
This is the MOST important thing for me. I was actually wondering if there might be a wireless option. This could be it. Thanks!
I finally got around to buying the USB 8BitDo Wireless Adapter 2 and it partially works with an Xbox One controller, but not 100%. Did you find wireless controller that’s 100% compatible?
For some reason my comments keep disappearing - anyways tested with standard XBox 360 wireless controller, plugged in without batteries. Everything worked great except for Home - XBox logo button did not seem to do anything. No more controller lag!
We had trouble with lag with the Gamestation Pro controller. I am assuming it is interference with our Orbi wireless network. Did you have this problem? It would be great to turn it off.
Huh. I didn't experience any interference from my wifi, but those mesh routers are pretty powerful. (I use Eero myself.)
I have 10 different controllers in my house and none of them work with the GSP. Almost $200 for an Xbox Elite controller is way too pricey for my budget. It's my only complaint. They fixed all of my other issues with the latest firmware update. Now if they could give us some more compatibility and button mapping options it a true winner. I only play the paddle games with their controller.
I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to buy an Xbox Elite JUST for GSP play. I hear PS4 & PS5 controllers do great, but I don't own one yet to test with.
I just got my Xbox Elite Series 2 Controller, the one GXG recommended, as well as the charging cable he recommended.
I can say without a doubt that it works great! The big lit X serves as the reset button. The only thing I recommend is removing the paddles from the bottom of the controller because they can cause the Save button functionality to pop up a lot if you press the paddle by accident. Removing the paddles from the controller took care of this. They are fully removeable and go right in the carry case. All the paddles do is mimic the A, B, or C buttons anyway, so for me they weren't of any use.
I will still use the controllers that came with the Gamestation Pro for 2600, 5200, and 7800 games. But for Genesis, NES, and Arcade games, the Xbox controller can't be beat! Yes it's more expensive than the Gamestation Pro itself. But I felt the cost was worth it because I know I won't get tired of the system now that I have a decent controller where I didn't have to feel awkward using the built in controllers, and did not have to remap any buttons for the Xbox controller!
I am also guessing that any Xbox controller with a USB-C connector will work. But I did not want to take a chance and went with the Xbox Elite Series 2 Controller, the one GXG used in this video.
Great to hear! Remember that you can remap those buttons on the elite and create a variety of profiles to switch between on the fly (NES layout? Genesis layout?). 😀
@@GenXGrownUp That's good to know. I'll have to figure that out since the Xbox manual didn't give those instructions, unless I missed it.
unfortunately I can’t get my Series 2 controller to work - after plugging it in just no response - did you use the usb cable that came with your controller with a converter to plug into the usb-c jack in the console? or used a third party usb-c to usb-c cable? or configure the controller before using? thanks
@Chekmate99 I used the cable that came with the controller and a usb to usb-c adapter I bought pff Amazon.
@@e815usa thanks for replying! I’ll give that a go as I used a usb-c to usb-c from Walmart - thanks
My remote control joystick already got messed up. Can I buy another replacement exactly like the two that came with it?
Not yet, but I understand that's being considered as an option in the very near future.
I bought this to relive some childhood memories. I found the joy stick and paddle to have terrible response time no matter what sensitivity setting changed to. I may have to try a different controller.
Do you have a 2.4Ghz wifi network? I've heard of interference as a possibility.
I do but I am not near any of my access points if that means anything. Also just received my usb c cables and while plugging into the console, I can navigate on the menu of games but when I start a game to play, the joystick or paddle stops responding.
@@djsirius6694 Goodness! Must be a defective component - I've never seen so much as a single disconnect.
Many of these could be great though, if remapped?
PS4 controller works REALLY well with the arcade games - both the analog and digital controls work.
Hello - I do have an XBox One S Controller. What cable do I use to connect to Atari Gamestation Pro? I already know the other end to be USB-C, but I do not know what the other end is that connects to the XBox One S Controller. Thank you.
Hey. You can see in my controller video (ua-cam.com/video/jD1RQ_3oK40/v-deo.html), how I use a USB-C-to-USB-C cable to connect my Xbox One controller to the GSP.
One joystick for my primary gaming and emulation PC and one for the actual gamestation!
Do you have a trackball controller to try on trackball games?
I don't, but I have a mouse (which is essentially an upside-down trackball). I'll give it a shot next time I have it hooked up.
from this video and most of the comments below, this topic need much further review, and expansion to paddles/spinners/trackballs/tanksticks.
Plus not noted, only wired controllers will work with this A-GSP.
Also found elsewhere, battery state will effect function. Also found elsewhere, variations of the same model controller may work differently.
Again much more testing and review is needed.
Have you played Atari today !!
Indeed! As I learn definitive information I've been adding to the pinned comment.
I'm having issues with Pole Position I & II mame versions. The Gamestation Pro loads the two versions of each game, the controller allows movement to the left & right, the 3 buttons A, B & C do not serve any purpose. Is there a compatible controller available to allow this game to be played properly?
Best advice is to inquire in the #tech-support of our Discord server.
Do we know if the Gamestation Pro controllers work while plugged in? Sorry if it was mentioned already.
Do they work plugged into what?
@@GenXGrownUpProbably meant plugged into the system itself, so that you can use them whilst charging
@@DryPaperHammerBro yes thats what I meant
Thanks for the info. After watching I used windows to map my Xbox and a wired SNES controller I have. The SNES was what I was hoping would work, for the NES games or SNES if anyone gets that working. But the D-pad is treated as analog x/y instead of the POV-Hat making it useless, plus while Button C=#1 and B=#2 are workable (on the SNES X and A buttons,) there is nothing on the controllers to match button 7 for the all important "A" button.
Anyone know of a SNES/NES controller where the D-pad is assigned to the POV-Hat function instead of an analog stick? I'm thinking 8bitdo might since it has both, but I don't have one.
Obviously not a playstation fan, I doubt a Ps4 controller would do anything on a ps2. Diamond😁 great video
I know, I know... Where did I even get a PS4 controller? I have no idea! 😁
So since is a low voltage device, can this run a wireless X Input using a usb dongle? My X Input controller is a wireless Logitech f710. Why I ask this is because I have an AtGames Genesis Flashback (sd card one) and I also have a RetroBit wireless Genesis controller. The dongle doesn’t work unless I supply the dongle with its own power. I assume the 5v power cant deliver the juice to the dongle. Will something like that work on the GSP?
I don't have any electrical specifications - only anecdotal observations. I've tested lots of controllers and just haven't found any that I own which are more compatible than the Xbox one I show in this video. The answers to your question may just require some trial and error testing.
@@GenXGrownUpthanks pal. I do appreciate you answering my question from an older video too
@@Metal-Josh For sure. I try to keep up with comments as best as I can! 😁
I'd be curious to know if Nintendo Switch pro controllers work with this console, I have a Switch, but only have the Joy Cons, and I know they won't work because they used Bluetooth only, but the Pro Controller has a wired mode it can operate in. I think it has enough buttons to work. Also, when you use the XBOX controller, is there a button mapped to the home button? If not it doesn't matter too much since the console has a home button on its control panel.
I tried a Switch controller I had but couldn't get it to work. With my Xbox One Elite 2 (seein in the video), the Xbox button (illuminated in the center) functions as a HOME command to the GSP.
@@GenXGrownUp Well that's good to know. How do paddle games work with an alternative controller. Speaking of paddles, I did try to play both Breakout and Super Breakout with the paddle, and I found the paddle to be quite jerky and rough in its operation, the bats in the games didn't move smoothly. That said, I only tried the games very briefly. My console needs to go back to the factory anyway, so maybe the controller also needs replacing. I've only used one of my two controllers with the console.
@@Lachlant1984 I didn't experience that. I'm actually working on a troubleshooting video script right now, and one thing that can contribute to troublesome wireless performance is not having sufficent power to the console. The manual notes 5v/2a power supply or better. Below that will power on & work, but can impact both game and controller performance. As for paddle games with an alternate controller, no paddle on those, but the joystick/thumbpad worked as you might expect. Not ideal, but operable.
@@GenXGrownUp OK. I'll need to check the AC Adaptor I'm using for it's ratings, I don't have issues with game performance and general controller operation, just the paddle knob on at least one of my controllers operates a bit roughly in my experience. I'll keep an eye out for your troubleshooting video.
@@GenXGrownUp Well apparently the AC Adaptor I'm using has a rating of 5 volts at 2.4 amps according to its label, assuming the specifications are correct, that unit should be ample to power the GSP correctly, so hopefully that's not the cause of my issue.
Quick question - can you plug in a wired Xbox 360 controller and see if that works with it? Thanks
See my pinned "UPDATE" comment in the comments section of this video.
@@GenXGrownUpAh- good to know! Maybe a powered USB hub would solve some issues.