Im on a volly dept in mass and any training vids i can find i bring to the meeting so every body is on the same page and this one is good! Thanks for posting
The best way I have found to feel the rafters is to hold the saw as close to 90 degrees from the roof as posible. With this practice your bar contacts the entire rafter at once. It feel quit differant from the roofing materal. As you contact the rafter you lift and "roll" the bar over the rafter.
another great video, I'm not a firefighter(more med/sar) but enjoy the clear logical precise way you do the videos. Keep up the great work and stay safe. Maybe santa will get you a new helmet, considering budget cuts and all. Kiddin' ya. Cheers
The most important thing about peaked roof ventilation is to agressively attack interior fire. Rapid water on fire along with truck pulling ceilings to accesss attic is much more important. If the attic is not involved in fire, cutting roof is almost pointless. For a fire that has already flashed and has "darkened down" (ventilation limited), it is not possible to make a large enough roof opening to release all of the heat energy. Fire will still move horizontally and temperatures will increase.
Trey Great video! If the cutout has to be removed, do you drop it down the hole or pull it up and out? If you need to pull it out how would you do it. Thanks again for another great video! If the BBQ is ok with his Boss its ok with me! I like my bucket shiny so i know how hot I got each time I work, stay safe!
@flairball Its most likely a training helmet. Many instructors have roasted helmets that are used for training. It could be his frontline helmet though. I know a lot of truckies whos helmets look like his.
Hey Trey good video. I think I met some of your Bros at FDTN. I'm guessing that anyone that has an issue with your helmet is also unfamiliar with FDTN. Don't sweat it, someones gotta stand in the front yard. FTM-PTB
I agree with you, and hate whenever people bitch about how people bbq their helmets. I would like to say that this guy is a Fire Instructor, and has taught a handful of live burn classes, and burnt his lid up pretty bad. You should see some of our fire instructor's helmets here in PA haha
Yes and no, lol .... it's all about repetition with the same tools ... but then it also depends on type of timber used in construction ... I've cut holes after the fire is out and smoke is gone to look for extension when the roof is an add on over an existing roof and not felt the joist/truss ... some really like the depth gauge so you only cut through the sheathing and avoid too much of cut through the joist/truss ...
I'm not sure if this is a dumb question or not, but when you're cutting with the vent saw, how obvious is it that you've hit a truss? I know it's not supposed to be cut through. I'm just guessing there's a lot more resistance when cutting? Also, a flat head axe is also a good foot hold too.
Please explain how you ensure that this will pivot open properly first time every time and with little effort Thinking makes work easier and safer........ Im not a fire fighter but love knowledge and understanding my fellow mans life....... KEEP UP THESE GREAT VIDEOS I'M SURE THEY SAVE LIVES
+jolllyroger1 Still in training here but I think the way they ensure the hole they cut will pivot is they sound the roof with a tool to find the roof studs. It should sound different when you hit the stud and that is where you want the middle of the opening to be.
some like no depth gauge because they believe they can feel the joist better with more of the bar in the hole coming across the joist/truss which helps them pull up and run over it ... just another reason to train, train, train!
I realize this comment is 8 years old but if Trey is affiliated with training networks like FDTN a burnt helmet is pretty common. All of our instructors have helmets like his bc they have to stay in the units with love fire while people train inside.
Now can somebody tell me how the shingles and everything else is gonna provide a blockade from the heat and smoke while yet it is going above your shield and coming down on top of you?That is a good idea and all, But what advantage does it have to protect you from the heat and smoke rising above your shield that you have made with the piece of roofing that you have cut?It is just gonna be coming down on top of you while yet your trying to get off the roof.I mean you can't take it with you.
Leave the halligan for the FE team. Take a roof/rubbish hook for footing/sounding/pulling Some real good nuggets here, but lets do it "the way we do it"
This guy gives great training but he really needs to get rid of that helmet. Wearing it like a badge of honor is cool but it sends a bad example to younger guys. 1. That helmet is damaged with that much heat and burns on it. May not work the next time it gets that hot. 2. Cancer....look at all those carcinogens! Just my opinion. You can all rip me apart now.
that second cut is a waste of time and your saw...there's no reason to do five cuts..once you've begun your first cut, you'll feel your rafters and direction and don't need to to any additional cuts...
Im on a volly dept in mass and any training vids i can find i bring to the meeting so every body is on the same page and this one is good! Thanks for posting
I am glad I saw this! I was always trained just 4 cuts not 5... that 45* cut looks like a HUGE advantage! I am going to give that a try.
I knew I'd like this guy when he said "it looks like it's gonna be a hot one already". Good and informative video.
The 5th cut makes it all so much easier! Thaks for sharing a great reminder video!
The best way I have found to feel the rafters is to hold the saw as close to 90 degrees from the roof as posible. With this practice your bar contacts the entire rafter at once. It feel quit differant from the roofing materal. As you contact the rafter you lift and "roll" the bar over the rafter.
EAC Tried that recently and I was instantly sold on it. Makes the dice cut go very quick.
I like the haligan bar foothold! Stay safe
another great video, I'm not a firefighter(more med/sar) but enjoy the clear logical precise way you do the videos. Keep up the great work and stay safe.
Maybe santa will get you a new helmet, considering budget cuts and all.
Kiddin' ya. Cheers
Very professional vid, great info, thank you!
Alright, that all makes sense. Thanks for that, and I enjoy your videos!
great video. stuff like this should be forced into high schoolers so theyd know it. i love videos like this and i love to learn.
As soon as I seen the 'stache I was like, yup, this guys legit 👍
I was just going to say the same thing. 🤣
Nice technique. You could mention how you light your work area if it's 3am, blowing snow and near zero vis before the smoke reduces vis even more.
Great video!
The most important thing about peaked roof ventilation is to agressively attack interior fire. Rapid water on fire along with truck pulling ceilings to accesss attic is much more important. If the attic is not involved in fire, cutting roof is almost pointless. For a fire that has already flashed and has "darkened down" (ventilation limited), it is not possible to make a large enough roof opening to release all of the heat energy. Fire will still move horizontally and temperatures will increase.
Good luck selling, putting water on burning material, on UA-cam.
Why is that?
Thank you for the video!
Trey Great video! If the cutout has to be removed, do you drop it down the hole or pull it up and out? If you need to pull it out how would you do it. Thanks again for another great video!
If the BBQ is ok with his Boss its ok with me! I like my bucket shiny so i know how hot I got each time I work, stay safe!
4 people didn't learn a thing. good video brother
@flairball Its most likely a training helmet. Many instructors have roasted helmets that are used for training. It could be his frontline helmet though. I know a lot of truckies whos helmets look like his.
Great video
Any veteran with a helmet that black deserves more respect than I can give.
Awesome video! Great info!
Hey Trey good video. I think I met some of your Bros at FDTN. I'm guessing that anyone that has an issue with your helmet is also unfamiliar with FDTN. Don't sweat it, someones gotta stand in the front yard. FTM-PTB
I agree with you, and hate whenever people bitch about how people bbq their helmets. I would like to say that this guy is a Fire Instructor, and has taught a handful of live burn classes, and burnt his lid up pretty bad. You should see some of our fire instructor's helmets here in PA haha
Great Video. Thank you!
Thank you for the info Sir!
Yes and no, lol .... it's all about repetition with the same tools ... but then it also depends on type of timber used in construction ... I've cut holes after the fire is out and smoke is gone to look for extension when the roof is an add on over an existing roof and not felt the joist/truss ... some really like the depth gauge so you only cut through the sheathing and avoid too much of cut through the joist/truss ...
I'm not sure if this is a dumb question or not, but when you're cutting with the vent saw, how obvious is it that you've hit a truss? I know it's not supposed to be cut through. I'm just guessing there's a lot more resistance when cutting? Also, a flat head axe is also a good foot hold too.
common in new york we have slate roofs. You would have to clear the slate before you vent
The house would burn down by then.
Please explain how you ensure that this will pivot open properly first time every time and with little effort
Thinking makes work easier and safer........ Im not a fire fighter but love knowledge and understanding my fellow mans life....... KEEP UP THESE GREAT VIDEOS I'M SURE THEY SAVE LIVES
+jolllyroger1 Still in training here but I think the way they ensure the hole they cut will pivot is they sound the roof with a tool to find the roof studs. It should sound different when you hit the stud and that is where you want the middle of the opening to be.
You really locate the roof rafters with the chainsaw. You can feel them, especially when the bar is 'steeper', instead of flatter.
Logic and thought goes into your ventilation strategy but not you ppe? What is that thing on your head for and why do you care so little about it?
some like no depth gauge because they believe they can feel the joist better with more of the bar in the hole coming across the joist/truss which helps them pull up and run over it ... just another reason to train, train, train!
That is nice to know.
The hole should be big enough to drive a Volkswagen through is what I was taught
Nice helmet. What is that 400 degrees for about 45 minutes, or did you just drop it in the BBQ grill?
I realize this comment is 8 years old but if Trey is affiliated with training networks like FDTN a burnt helmet is pretty common. All of our instructors have helmets like his bc they have to stay in the units with love fire while people train inside.
i take my fighter 1 test saturday dec 15,2018
I tihnk its time for a new helmet.... Or atleast some new paint and some burkes....
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@sk8eerbooy44 Sure is! First of all it looks stupid. Secondly it destroys the integrity of the helmet!
You can tell just by his helmet he’s been through hell and back
Now can somebody tell me how the shingles and everything else is gonna provide a blockade from the heat and smoke while yet it is going above your shield and coming down on top of you?That is a good idea and all, But what advantage does it have to protect you from the heat and smoke rising above your shield that you have made with the piece of roofing that you have cut?It is just gonna be coming down on top of you while yet your trying to get off the roof.I mean you can't take it with you.
Man, that helmet is roasted, in Germany you become a new helmet!
In germany you "get" a new helmet ;-)
Leave the halligan for the FE team. Take a roof/rubbish hook for footing/sounding/pulling
Some real good nuggets here, but lets do it "the way we do it"
I thought water will kill the firer ...!!!...why you spend so much time to cut off the rooftop when the house is on fire???...lol
This guy gives great training but he really needs to get rid of that helmet. Wearing it like a badge of honor is cool but it sends a bad example to younger guys. 1. That helmet is damaged with that much heat and burns on it. May not work the next time it gets that hot. 2. Cancer....look at all those carcinogens! Just my opinion. You can all rip me apart now.
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that second cut is a waste of time and your saw...there's no reason to do five cuts..once you've begun your first cut, you'll feel your rafters and direction and don't need to to any additional cuts...