I'm using Madina Arabic book 1. Alhamdulilaah its better than nothing lol. By Allah's persmission I will reach my goal of fully understanding the Quran and being able to speak the language aswell . To anyone out there who is struggling and feel frustrated , I encourage you to keep going and keep the faith. This is the language of the Quran
@@bintrj6726 I found a different channel that is shorter and watching. Is there any group or website to take a quiz after studying the lessons? I know people charges $50-$80 per month for Madinah Arabic book. 😢
@@HametDembele-ni5hd Alhamdulillaah I've now completed Madina book 2, Bayna Yadayk book 1 and gone half way through Bayna Yadayk book 2. My progress is slow due to studies, travel and now work. I have not taken any Arabic lesson in months but I intend to resume soon. May Allaah make it easy for us all. Aameen
SubhanAllah. I was talking to my husband about this. I personally prefer Bayna Yadayk because I feel the vocabulary is more practical for everyday people. Whereas the vocabulary in Madinah Arabic books is more specific to university students, its also very grammar heavy. So if you’re not the type that loves grammar it can get pretty boring especially when you dont feel that you are getting enough practical vocabulary to use in day to day life at home.
True sister. But the thing is if you follow the Medinah curriculum properly,not just the 3 books,like you do the conversational drills,ahadith sahlah and a few more,I think it compensates for the lack of conversational-vocab present in it.
@@frederikantonio5742 the full madinah set isn't just the 3 books, the full set has side books e.g they have extra reading books and conversation books that have basic ahadith mixed in aswell.
Almost everyone I know is learning Arabic to understand the Deen so they don't really care about conversational Arabic (which the Madinah series covers anyway)
I've completed all the 3 Madina books and now I'm studying Arabiyya Bayna yadaik, and I can say that having built the basic grammar with Madina Books, now I'm finding Bayna Yadaik super easy. Otherwise starting from Bayna Yadaik can be confusing if you don't know basic grammar like the 3states of words and how the pronounciatiob changes. Studying both would be a good option.
The brother forgot to mention that not everyone who is trying their best through Madinah or Al Arabiyyah books may nit be able to travel abroad or study abroad. Use the tools you have in your hands and Allah will reward you.
Currently I do both books. Medina book 1 ( it has basic Nahwu) and Al Arabiyyah Bayna Yadayk (to do daily conversation easily) book 1. Hopefully I can be fluent in lughatul arabia soon
@@alburaqrecords4752 Madinah books have 4 books, same goes with Al Arabbiyah Bayna Yadayk, it has 4 books. All those books are available from online sources.
@@mohammadiaa Yes, Alhamdulillah I can understand well with Madina book 1 and as well as Al Arabbiyah Bayna Yadaik. It's recommend to go for Madina book firstly for few chapters to learn basic Arabic grammar (Nahw) before starting with Al Arabbiyah Bayna Yadaik (for fluency of conversation in Arabic with others). Next step.. learn Sarf (Arabic Morphology)
We don't learn Sarf and Nahw to converse with some in akhi in a coffee shop. The purpose behind these sciences is ultimately to understand the Quran. Many of these people who can converse in Arabic are poor in sarf and nahw. This is why you see so many misinterpretations and misunderstandings of Islamic texts.
He didn’t say to learn conversational Arabic to go to the coffee shops with some akhi, he said so you could understand the shaykh when he’s teaching you grammar.
I studied only madina book 1 and matn al jurumiyah. And listening much to arabic teacher, reading much hadeeth of our prophets and watching many arabic conversions videos in youtube, and talking much with others though i made more mistakes but alhamdulillah, i now reach a point if i speak, people are thinnking, I'm a native from the start of conversion. Hahaah alhamdulillah.
Subhana'Allah as a humble student on this journey, I completely agree. Nahw grammar and Sarf have helped immensely in understanding the Qur'aan and Sunnah better alhamdulillah, and conversational is what I will now learn to be able to access so many great Arabic texts taught by only Arabic teachers, after struggling to understand so many of them. Both is 100% necessary!
Traveling to study in Egypt will never help you because EVERYONE SPEAKS SLANG/called amiyyah. Literally half of the vocab differs from fusha used in Quran and Modern Standard Arabic. I never met an educated Egyptian who could carry on a conversation for more than 5 minutes in proper Arabic. They even use the slang in the university. The only exceptions may be Quran teachers, and even some of them have difficulty. The reason is NOBODY SPEAKS ARABIC. NOW. Go to Egypt to learn Quran..they are the best! Memorize as much as you can and Allah will reward you for your effort and you will be able to speak Arabic by this means. Studying grammar is not important unless you have a high goal of reading classical books of tafseer, hadeeth, fiqh etc.in Arabic They add the prefix b to verbs and the suffix sh. Really it is tragic. Also literacy is only 60%.
This is horrible advice Egypt is probably the best place to learn Classical Arabic right now thousands of students go there and there are 100s of schools with 100s of students inside who you can practice fusha with all day.
This is simply false. Most arabs are entirely capable of speaking in fusha and understanding fusha. I am not sure who you were interacting with; however, your statements are verifiably false.
I studied Bayna Yadayk in Cairo at a school, and I found that it was the best experience because of the classroom environment with a teacher. However, if I was in a position where I had to self study I believe a more grammar focused book like Madina Books would probably be easier to follow
I think the charm with Madinah book 1 and 2 especially as a novice is that they teach you the sentence structure in Arabic and explain why you put them in order. This really aids you as a beginner student cause you get to practise that quite a lot and gradually. If you dive in to Arabiyyah Bayna Yadayk chances are you’ll get confused on the word order or how to build a sentence that makes sense. Madinah Books mentions the cases of the asmaa’ and this can greatly impact the sentence as well as sentence order etc. My recommendation if you’re studying alone without any teacher is doing Madinah Book 1 and 2 and then starting with Bayna Yadayk. MB will give you the foundation for which you’ll stand on and the vocabulary to build your sentences with as long as training in how to speak/vocabulary in context can be found in ABY.
100% with you. I’m about to finish madinah book 2 so I thought I’d look into Bayna yadak as I’m planning to do it to improve my vocab. I would definitely be lost in terms of grammar madi, mudariya etc.
I started with Baina Yadyek books, its the go to for traveling or communicating in Arabic. However, grammar and writing the Medina books are best. Inshaallah when i finish, i will go with the Medina books to improve my grammar.
Only الله knows how many people have learnt Arabic by using the Madinah Arabic books so I think this is very bad advice from a young student of knowledge to advise against studying the Madinah Arabic books. There's a reason why it is the most famous series of books teaching the Arabic language to those who cannot speak it. Sometimes we have to look at the evidence (of its popularity etc) and disregard our own opinions which is based on limited personal experience. I hope A.T has a chance to reflect upon his statements and take back some of what he has said.
I agree with you. I completed Madinah Book 1, and now am learning Madinah Book 2. At the same time I and my teenage son are now taking a lesson with ABY book. I am able to compose some variations of sentences, while my son is struggling as he did not start with Madinah Book
You dont know what youre talking about im a student in madinah and even the teachers themselves criticize the books. They are going to switch to another curriculum soon. This is not the most famous series at all in the Arab world its the most famous serious in the west because of the name attached to it “madinah university”. You are talking about opinions but i can tell you dont know arabic and have barely studied it. Since you dont understand the topic that is being discussed its best that you actually keep your opinion to yourself since you dont even know what is used for evidence on this topic.
Medinah arabic books are 3 volumes but the first volume has the main book which has grammar but it also has قراءة and تعبير . Also the other volumes have the main book and other books that include vocabulary
May Allah be mercy upon Dr Abdul Rahim the Author of Madina books , he was very knowledgeable person he has done magnificent job when it comes to study Arabic grammar. Please go search about him you will find out who he was what he has done . I recommend Madina books whoever wants to learn Arabic .
Study Madinah Books - If you want read and understand the Qur'an and speaking Arabic is not your priority. Study Al Arabia Bayna Yadaik - If speaking Arabic is your priority. Bonus point:- You can listen to Qur'an and understand it too. But if you have time then study both at the same time. Madinah books will cover the grammar parts and Al Arabia Bayna Yadaik will cover the conversation part.
There's a channel called "@Arabic Enthusiasts" He has a playlist for bayna yadayk I find the brothers' classes to be the best as the rest of the classes for example by green lane masjid are too old and uninteractive
Madinah arabic is better it teaches you both conversational arabic and grammar especially book 2 and book 3. Learning grammar and conversational arabic and learning only conversational arabic in the same period of time which is best or better
If your aim is not to become a student of Islam, then learning conversational Arabic is fine. The problem with not learning classical Arabic you cant even understand the Quran, or the Hadiths. Because you do not understand how Arabs spoke. How are you going to understand the meaning. Also Fuṣḥā which is Modern Standard Arabic is not the same as Classical Arabic, people today confuse the two.
I think it very much depends on the student. There are some people who really need that conversation early approach - maybe that's even most people. But the Bayna Yadayk dialogues irritated me and didn't feel helpful, it was so much new all at once and I didn't feel like I deeply understood anything. I'm working through Madina book 1 here on UA-cam with a wonderful teacher who doesn't speak much English, so he reads the Arabic words and sentences out and says much more Arabic than English (he just gives translations of new words) and I'm able to remember so much better. Of course, there are things missing from the madina books. But I find I'm getting through the first one very fast and though it takes ages to show you verbs, I can understand lots of basic sentences very quickly and make some of my own with the correct harakat. I don't plan to spend all my time with Madina, probably I will finish one and a half books and then move on to things like graded readers, but I'm happy that the madina books exist for me and that the Bayna Yadayk books exist for other people who learn through conversation and not through listening and reading and repeating like I do. Eta: I only recently heard about some arabic classes for beginners happening only in arabic, and this of course is no use. How can anyone learn without explanations he understands? It doesnt matter what book I use if I don't understand the teacher, so that isn't a problem with the book.
The medina books are frankly utterly outdated. Completing the entire bayna yadayk series will bring a student to a level where they can understand things at an advanced level (C1). Medina books, even including the few side books, will not bring you to that level.
SubhanAllah this came on its time. This tuesday coming my local masjid are starting Al Arabiyyah Bayna Yadayk but im not sure if I should join as I was told that one should atleast know how to read and write. I can do both but at a slow pace especially writting. So in sha Allah theres some advice here to take with me before I make the decision to join or not
Conversational fluency is different than being a student of knowledge learning Arabic. Abu taymiyahs opinion is turning people away from learning Arabic unless they move to Arabia smh.
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته can anyone who's studied the madina books (either done with all of them or only properly 1 and 2) tell me if you can now understand the Quran to a much greater extent? or is that not true and you need the ajrumiyyah and other books too. جزاك الله خيرا
Yeah i agree , beginners should learn conversational arabic first thereafter learn grammar. Think about it, how did you learn your 1st language as a baby? Before anything , it was learning to how to ... speak. This is the natural way to learn a language. Speaking and understanding should be prioritized at the beginning , then one can move onto grammar etc. الرحمن. علم القرآن. خلق الإنسان. علمه البيان.
I think the best is a combo: Madinah book 1 and 2 provides you with a solid grasp on the sentence structure of Arabic and how the order of the words used in a sentence can greatly impact the meaning and Bayna Yadayk teaches you vocabs, their implementation and helps you understand more.
I started the Madinah books and I’m enjoying it but it’s becoming a little bit difficult, I’ve learnt a little bit of conversational Arabic but mostly grammar. My goal is to be able to study advanced tafseer and other books that are in Arabic. Is learning conversational Arabic as important for my goal? Jazakallahu khair
If you’ve done book 1 and 2 in Madinah books then start doing Bayna Yadayk and the sidebooks of MB like the ahadith books, seerah books etc. They’ll aid your understanding and increase your vocabulary
Can we just say medina books Are for experts? Like algebra is for math experts? When you don’t know 1+1 you cant do Algebra so its Not very intelligent when you Start with algebra before you don’t know the basics, i think its that easy.
No . Madina book volume 1 is very easy and it's not for experts but for beginners who don't know anything except how to read arabic with harkaat . And I'm saying this with my experience .
Most learning conversational Arabic but have no Arabic speakers to practice on is a waste. Since you need constant practice otherwise you will forget what you learnt.
Nope, i speak english well and i never lived in a english speaking country. I simply used it here after years of listening and reading english. Soon as i started speaking it it became easier and now i can easily converse even though i haven't spoken it for 2 years or so. So no, learn to converse, learn basic vocab and everyone will be fine. Speak to yourself, anything to keep it going.
@@mohamudahmed6554 English is one of the easiest language to learn. So many who studied Arabic can't formulate a sentence properly. Everyone is different. You can't use yourself an expect people to be same as you. This is a basic common sense in the English language.
@@htmoh8115 True, can't generalize, but it kinda seems like its pretty general and that the exceptions are those who easily forget a language. If someone learns a language (listening and understanding what they read) then learn to speak it, unless they completely ignore the language they should be fine. This is usually specific to those who say "Yeah i once learned x as a kid, but then never used it and forgot about it" . I also have a similar experience, completely neglected this once language and now i only remember how to count. I also speak 2 other languages and use one daily and same goes for many people i know here. I have had the experience of my language skill becoming less advanced in my native tounge and so do most of us who's parents migrated to Europe specially when. So watching few videos in the target language here and there and reading books should keep one not forgetting about basic communication. At the end of the day, a person can use easy and simple sentences. So no, learning how to speak arabic is definitely not a waste. Specially in a country where the muslim in the masjid speak arabic like the UK and even here in Finland. Have you tried to learn conversational arabic and then forgotten it? I don't think so. It is not easy to forget a language specially if you read and listening in that language. As for english, its easy, but once you learn it and speak it, forgetting it is difficult unless you stop listening and reading everything related to that language and same goes for every other language.
@@mohamudahmed6554 anything is possible as long as you actually put it effort, be constant and persistent. An remember why you learning Arabic. Last but not least, make dua to Allah to make it easy for you. Hard work is where people fail, the journey is long. Need patience.
I went to Madinha a few years ago, i entered the Class with ZERO understanding of Arabic... but I could read the letters. The teach speaks in Arabic only and would give commands to the students in Arabic to open their books and write XYZ in our notepads... Naturally i didnt understand anything except the odd word like hadith or customary words of Muslims like Salah etc; It was very difficult to sit for 4 hrs and have teachers come in and teach books but not know what they are talking about... I am with Abu Taymiyyah
@@1986Faruq I am as calm as water bro Just you didn’t study madina books And you are speaking like you completed. Allah knows best But if you have ever studied even hardly madina book two you would have understood a lot things in class
I'm using Madina Arabic book 1. Alhamdulilaah its better than nothing lol. By Allah's persmission I will reach my goal of fully understanding the Quran and being able to speak the language aswell . To anyone out there who is struggling and feel frustrated , I encourage you to keep going and keep the faith. This is the language of the Quran
yes madina books are beautiful
How are you studying those books 📚 ? Tips, please.
@@tahrin.choudhury i used the lesson guide at the back which explains it
@@tahrin.choudhury These lectures of brother Asif Mehrali are awesome..
ua-cam.com/play/PLylRFHVuWeMDYhBWA9ItOg_FkGd9vZl5N.html
@@bintrj6726 I found a different channel that is shorter and watching. Is there any group or website to take a quiz after studying the lessons? I know people charges $50-$80 per month for Madinah Arabic book. 😢
Study both! I have finished Madinah book 1 and now I am about to start Madinah book 2 along side with Bayna Yadayk book 1.
How is it !?
@@HametDembele-ni5hd Alhamdulillaah I've now completed Madina book 2, Bayna Yadayk book 1 and gone half way through Bayna Yadayk book 2. My progress is slow due to studies, travel and now work. I have not taken any Arabic lesson in months but I intend to resume soon. May Allaah make it easy for us all. Aameen
@@getinspired7687how is it now?
@@getinspired7687 How much of arabic are you able to understand now?
@@muzammilshareef1951Did you do Madinah books and Bayna Yadayk together or Madinah books first then Bayna yadayk
SubhanAllah. I was talking to my husband about this. I personally prefer Bayna Yadayk because I feel the vocabulary is more practical for everyday people. Whereas the vocabulary in Madinah Arabic books is more specific to university students, its also very grammar heavy. So if you’re not the type that loves grammar it can get pretty boring especially when you dont feel that you are getting enough practical vocabulary to use in day to day life at home.
True sister.
But the thing is if you follow the Medinah curriculum properly,not just the 3 books,like you do the conversational drills,ahadith sahlah and a few more,I think it compensates for the lack of conversational-vocab present in it.
@@Lion_Heart14 what do you mean by conversational drills and ahadith sahlah?
@@frederikantonio5742 the full madinah set isn't just the 3 books, the full set has side books e.g they have extra reading books and conversation books that have basic ahadith mixed in aswell.
Just study both series
Almost everyone I know is learning Arabic to understand the Deen so they don't really care about conversational Arabic (which the Madinah series covers anyway)
I've completed all the 3 Madina books and now I'm studying Arabiyya Bayna yadaik, and I can say that having built the basic grammar with Madina Books, now I'm finding Bayna Yadaik super easy. Otherwise starting from Bayna Yadaik can be confusing if you don't know basic grammar like the 3states of words and how the pronounciatiob changes.
Studying both would be a good option.
I agree
The brother forgot to mention that not everyone who is trying their best through Madinah or Al Arabiyyah books may nit be able to travel abroad or study abroad.
Use the tools you have in your hands and Allah will reward you.
Currently I do both books. Medina book 1 ( it has basic Nahwu) and Al Arabiyyah Bayna Yadayk (to do daily conversation easily) book 1. Hopefully I can be fluent in lughatul arabia soon
Asalamualikum Which book they told please
@@alburaqrecords4752 Madinah books have 4 books, same goes with Al Arabbiyah Bayna Yadayk, it has 4 books. All those books are available from online sources.
Assalamualaikum brother/sister, are you able to understand the arabic lectures of scholars with your current level of the language?
@@mohammadiaa Yes, Alhamdulillah I can understand well with Madina book 1 and as well as Al Arabbiyah Bayna Yadaik. It's recommend to go for Madina book firstly for few chapters to learn basic Arabic grammar (Nahw) before starting with Al Arabbiyah Bayna Yadaik (for fluency of conversation in Arabic with others). Next step.. learn Sarf (Arabic Morphology)
What about to understand Quran in salah
We don't learn Sarf and Nahw to converse with some in akhi in a coffee shop. The purpose behind these sciences is ultimately to understand the Quran.
Many of these people who can converse in Arabic are poor in sarf and nahw. This is why you see so many misinterpretations and misunderstandings of Islamic texts.
He didn’t say to learn conversational Arabic to go to the coffee shops with some akhi, he said so you could understand the shaykh when he’s teaching you grammar.
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yes we learnt for this reason. however we need to know how to speak also to understand the teachers who speak in Fusha brooooo
You can’t understand the Quran if you have no vocabulary
I studied only madina book 1 and matn al jurumiyah. And listening much to arabic teacher, reading much hadeeth of our prophets and watching many arabic conversions videos in youtube, and talking much with others though i made more mistakes but alhamdulillah, i now reach a point if i speak, people are thinnking, I'm a native from the start of conversion. Hahaah alhamdulillah.
Wow Masha'Allah, I'm at Madinah book 2,i hope we all reach that level Insha'Allah
Subhana'Allah as a humble student on this journey, I completely agree. Nahw grammar and Sarf have helped immensely in understanding the Qur'aan and Sunnah better alhamdulillah, and conversational is what I will now learn to be able to access so many great Arabic texts taught by only Arabic teachers, after struggling to understand so many of them. Both is 100% necessary!
What is Nahw grammar and Sard and when should you begin with them, like first Madinah books and Bayna yadayk or ?
@@Abdulr-zo3tk Madina yes, any 'Quranic Arabic' books, learning verb and sentence structures will help in analysing text
Traveling to study in Egypt will never help you because EVERYONE SPEAKS SLANG/called amiyyah. Literally half of the vocab differs from fusha used in Quran and Modern Standard Arabic.
I never met an educated Egyptian who could carry on a conversation for more than 5 minutes in proper Arabic. They even use the slang in the university.
The only exceptions may be Quran teachers, and even some of them have difficulty.
The reason is NOBODY SPEAKS ARABIC. NOW.
Go to Egypt to learn Quran..they are the best!
Memorize as much as you can and Allah will reward you for your effort and you will be able to speak Arabic by this means.
Studying grammar is not important unless you have a high goal of reading classical books of tafseer, hadeeth, fiqh etc.in Arabic
They add the prefix b to verbs and the suffix sh. Really it is tragic. Also literacy is only 60%.
This is horrible advice Egypt is probably the best place to learn Classical Arabic right now thousands of students go there and there are 100s of schools with 100s of students inside who you can practice fusha with all day.
Facts bothing but facts @@Islam.is.the.truth..
This is simply false. Most arabs are entirely capable of speaking in fusha and understanding fusha. I am not sure who you were interacting with; however, your statements are verifiably false.
I studied Bayna Yadayk in Cairo at a school, and I found that it was the best experience because of the classroom environment with a teacher. However, if I was in a position where I had to self study I believe a more grammar focused book like Madina Books would probably be easier to follow
How long did it take to have a full conversation in atabic
@@ukhtis3276It's take 4 month if you are attending 4 days a week.
I think the charm with Madinah book 1 and 2 especially as a novice is that they teach you the sentence structure in Arabic and explain why you put them in order. This really aids you as a beginner student cause you get to practise that quite a lot and gradually. If you dive in to Arabiyyah Bayna Yadayk chances are you’ll get confused on the word order or how to build a sentence that makes sense. Madinah Books mentions the cases of the asmaa’ and this can greatly impact the sentence as well as sentence order etc. My recommendation if you’re studying alone without any teacher is doing Madinah Book 1 and 2 and then starting with Bayna Yadayk. MB will give you the foundation for which you’ll stand on and the vocabulary to build your sentences with as long as training in how to speak/vocabulary in context can be found in ABY.
جزاك الله خيرًا
100% with you. I’m about to finish madinah book 2 so I thought I’d look into Bayna yadak as I’m planning to do it to improve my vocab. I would definitely be lost in terms of grammar madi, mudariya etc.
That’s not true they teach you how to put together basic sentences together from book 1 arabiyyah bayna ya dayk
What‘s the best and most affordable school in egypt? With accommodation and stuff, can someone recommend one?
I started with Baina Yadyek books, its the go to for traveling or communicating in Arabic. However, grammar and writing the Medina books are best. Inshaallah when i finish, i will go with the Medina books to improve my grammar.
On preply using bayna yadaik
Only الله knows how many people have learnt Arabic by using the Madinah Arabic books so I think this is very bad advice from a young student of knowledge to advise against studying the Madinah Arabic books. There's a reason why it is the most famous series of books teaching the Arabic language to those who cannot speak it. Sometimes we have to look at the evidence (of its popularity etc) and disregard our own opinions which is based on limited personal experience. I hope A.T has a chance to reflect upon his statements and take back some of what he has said.
I agree with you. I completed Madinah Book 1, and now am learning Madinah Book 2. At the same time I and my teenage son are now taking a lesson with ABY book. I am able to compose some variations of sentences, while my son is struggling as he did not start with Madinah Book
@@dimatasayajazakallahu khairen that was very helpful 👌🏼
You dont know what youre talking about im a student in madinah and even the teachers themselves criticize the books. They are going to switch to another curriculum soon. This is not the most famous series at all in the Arab world its the most famous serious in the west because of the name attached to it “madinah university”. You are talking about opinions but i can tell you dont know arabic and have barely studied it. Since you dont understand the topic that is being discussed its best that you actually keep your opinion to yourself since you dont even know what is used for evidence on this topic.
@@Islam.is.the.truth..could you give some reasons why the Sheyukh criticise the book Akhi?
@@dimatasayahow is your arabic now
what did the ustadh meant at 2:00, he said there are other books as well?
Medinah arabic books are 3 volumes but the first volume has the main book which has grammar but it also has قراءة and تعبير . Also the other volumes have the main book and other books that include vocabulary
May Allah be mercy upon Dr Abdul Rahim the Author of Madina books , he was very knowledgeable person he has done magnificent job when it comes to study Arabic grammar. Please go search about him you will find out who he was what he has done . I recommend Madina books whoever wants to learn Arabic .
Study Madinah Books - If you want read and understand the Qur'an and speaking Arabic is not your priority.
Study Al Arabia Bayna Yadaik - If speaking Arabic is your priority. Bonus point:- You can listen to Qur'an and understand it too.
But if you have time then study both at the same time. Madinah books will cover the grammar parts and Al Arabia Bayna Yadaik will cover the conversation part.
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Can anyone suggest where to learn Al Arabiya bayna yadaik online please?
There's a channel called
"@Arabic Enthusiasts"
He has a playlist for bayna yadayk
I find the brothers' classes to be the best as the rest of the classes for example by green lane masjid are too old and uninteractive
@@Lion_Heart14 بارك الله فيك 💖
@@مريمنح و فيكي
walaikum mussalam
@@Lion_Heart14 May Allah SWT reward you for recommending it 🤩❤️
Sheikh Abdul wahid from ICT in croydon!!!! Mashaallah tabarakallah
Madinah arabic is better it teaches you both conversational arabic and grammar especially book 2 and book 3.
Learning grammar and conversational arabic and learning only conversational arabic in the same period of time which is best or better
Lol you need to try bayna yadayk son
If your aim is not to become a student of Islam, then learning conversational Arabic is fine. The problem with not learning classical Arabic you cant even understand the Quran, or the Hadiths. Because you do not understand how Arabs spoke. How are you going to understand the meaning. Also Fuṣḥā which is Modern Standard Arabic is not the same as Classical Arabic, people today confuse the two.
Can I understan Quran in taraweeh without grammar madinah book
My dad is natibe arabic speaker from egypt he didnt study fusha buy csn still understand pretty much all of Quran and hadiths
I think it very much depends on the student. There are some people who really need that conversation early approach - maybe that's even most people. But the Bayna Yadayk dialogues irritated me and didn't feel helpful, it was so much new all at once and I didn't feel like I deeply understood anything.
I'm working through Madina book 1 here on UA-cam with a wonderful teacher who doesn't speak much English, so he reads the Arabic words and sentences out and says much more Arabic than English (he just gives translations of new words) and I'm able to remember so much better.
Of course, there are things missing from the madina books. But I find I'm getting through the first one very fast and though it takes ages to show you verbs, I can understand lots of basic sentences very quickly and make some of my own with the correct harakat.
I don't plan to spend all my time with Madina, probably I will finish one and a half books and then move on to things like graded readers, but I'm happy that the madina books exist for me and that the Bayna Yadayk books exist for other people who learn through conversation and not through listening and reading and repeating like I do.
Eta: I only recently heard about some arabic classes for beginners happening only in arabic, and this of course is no use. How can anyone learn without explanations he understands? It doesnt matter what book I use if I don't understand the teacher, so that isn't a problem with the book.
The medina books are frankly utterly outdated. Completing the entire bayna yadayk series will bring a student to a level where they can understand things at an advanced level (C1). Medina books, even including the few side books, will not bring you to that level.
SubhanAllah this came on its time. This tuesday coming my local masjid are starting Al Arabiyyah Bayna Yadayk but im not sure if I should join as I was told that one should atleast know how to read and write. I can do both but at a slow pace especially writting. So in sha Allah theres some advice here to take with me before I make the decision to join or not
That's the best Arabic starter
If you can write and read
Lol just realised I have watched this before on the Madinah College channel.
@@abuilyaas1383 lol i too thought ust abu T is going to give some more insights,turns out its a snippet
my Arabic Teacher in morocco said that Ajroomeeyah book has lot of mistakes in the arabic text formattting
Can you give us exemples ?
Conversational fluency is different than being a student of knowledge learning Arabic. Abu taymiyahs opinion is turning people away from learning Arabic unless they move to Arabia smh.
What if you read both
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
can anyone who's studied the madina books (either done with all of them or only properly 1 and 2) tell me if you can now understand the Quran to a much greater extent? or is that not true and you need the ajrumiyyah and other books too.
جزاك الله خيرا
Medina books meaning دروس اللغة?
Yeah i agree , beginners should learn conversational arabic first thereafter learn grammar.
Think about it, how did you learn your 1st language as a baby?
Before anything , it was learning to how to ... speak. This is the natural way to learn a language.
Speaking and understanding should be prioritized at the beginning , then one can move onto grammar etc.
الرحمن. علم القرآن. خلق الإنسان. علمه البيان.
subhanallahhhhhh
I think the best is a combo: Madinah book 1 and 2 provides you with a solid grasp on the sentence structure of Arabic and how the order of the words used in a sentence can greatly impact the meaning and Bayna Yadayk teaches you vocabs, their implementation and helps you understand more.
I started the Madinah books and I’m enjoying it but it’s becoming a little bit difficult, I’ve learnt a little bit of conversational Arabic but mostly grammar. My goal is to be able to study advanced tafseer and other books that are in Arabic. Is learning conversational Arabic as important for my goal? Jazakallahu khair
same question. I want to read Quran tafseer in Arabic
You don't need conversionational Arabic if your goal is to advance in the Islamic sciences. Concentrate on Sarf and Nahw.
After the Madinah Books there is also the Conversation Drills book, and much more after that. So I like the Madinah Book course very much.
@@MuhammadAli-mz4pq conversation drills? Where can I find them?
If you’ve done book 1 and 2 in Madinah books then start doing Bayna Yadayk and the sidebooks of MB like the ahadith books, seerah books etc. They’ll aid your understanding and increase your vocabulary
Madinah books are important due to grammar in it and baina yadaik is good for conversation.
نحن لا نفهم جيدا و لا نتكلم بطلاقة لأننا نركز على النحو و الصرف غالبا و لا نركز على المفردات و التراكيب.
i have almost completed medina book 2 so I am biased
Bayna Yadayk is the best. The madinah books are terrible to learn Arabic from. All they teach you is a bunch of grammar rules.
need bothhhhh brooooo
i personally beleive if you go straight to Bayna Yadayk, it will be hard, as they go straight into the Mazeed verbs and etc
Grammar isn't terrible Akhī, it might not be the place to start from, but it's one of the most important sciences.
@@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp4905 it’s great gives you a good foundation helps with understanding islamic sciences
@@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp4905 last to learn though. Unfortunately islamic schools teach it first
Do you guys know schools in Egypt that can help me learn Arabic? I currently live in US and I want to live abroad to study arabic.
asalam aleikum. are you still intressted in this?
@@QualityLifeControl Wa alaykum salam, I am.
@@yxkubu asalam aleikum, are you a sister 🧐,
La I'm not @@QualityLifeControl
I’m in Egypt right now! Go to Marla’s Al Ibaanah Arabic Center
Where was this filmed?
Madina books taught by bro aasif then give your opinios
Medina books are fine. Be patient and proceed slowly. There's nothing to stop you using other resources in parallel.
I Agree with Abu Taymiyyah
Can we just say medina books Are for experts? Like algebra is for math experts? When you don’t know 1+1 you cant do Algebra so its Not very intelligent when you Start with algebra before you don’t know the basics, i think its that easy.
No . Madina book volume 1 is very easy and it's not for experts but for beginners who don't know anything except how to read arabic with harkaat . And I'm saying this with my experience .
Why not Medinah?
I did Bayna yadaik and i like it more than madinah books
jazakallahhhhhhh
Most learning conversational Arabic but have no Arabic speakers to practice on is a waste. Since you need constant practice otherwise you will forget what you learnt.
Nope, i speak english well and i never lived in a english speaking country. I simply used it here after years of listening and reading english. Soon as i started speaking it it became easier and now i can easily converse even though i haven't spoken it for 2 years or so.
So no, learn to converse, learn basic vocab and everyone will be fine. Speak to yourself, anything to keep it going.
@@mohamudahmed6554 English is one of the easiest language to learn. So many who studied Arabic can't formulate a sentence properly. Everyone is different. You can't use yourself an expect people to be same as you. This is a basic common sense in the English language.
@@htmoh8115 True, can't generalize, but it kinda seems like its pretty general and that the exceptions are those who easily forget a language. If someone learns a language (listening and understanding what they read) then learn to speak it, unless they completely ignore the language they should be fine. This is usually specific to those who say "Yeah i once learned x as a kid, but then never used it and forgot about it" . I also have a similar experience, completely neglected this once language and now i only remember how to count.
I also speak 2 other languages and use one daily and same goes for many people i know here. I have had the experience of my language skill becoming less advanced in my native tounge and so do most of us who's parents migrated to Europe specially when. So watching few videos in the target language here and there and reading books should keep one not forgetting about basic communication. At the end of the day, a person can use easy and simple sentences.
So no, learning how to speak arabic is definitely not a waste. Specially in a country where the muslim in the masjid speak arabic like the UK and even here in Finland. Have you tried to learn conversational arabic and then forgotten it? I don't think so. It is not easy to forget a language specially if you read and listening in that language.
As for english, its easy, but once you learn it and speak it, forgetting it is difficult unless you stop listening and reading everything related to that language and same goes for every other language.
@@mohamudahmed6554 anything is possible as long as you actually put it effort, be constant and persistent. An remember why you learning Arabic. Last but not least, make dua to Allah to make it easy for you. Hard work is where people fail, the journey is long. Need patience.
Ustadh the countdown has music in it.
Nothing beats bayna yadayk but to each their own
I have Medina book’s and gateway to Arabic books and I prefer gateway to Arabic
Why?
I went to Madinha a few years ago, i entered the Class with ZERO understanding of Arabic... but I could read the letters.
The teach speaks in Arabic only and would give commands to the students in Arabic to open their books and write XYZ in our notepads...
Naturally i didnt understand anything except the odd word like hadith or customary words of Muslims like Salah etc;
It was very difficult to sit for 4 hrs and have teachers come in and teach books but not know what they are talking about...
I am with Abu Taymiyyah
Because you didn’t study anything in arabic that is why you didn’t understand
You speak like you completed 3 madina book series and you went to madina and didn’t understand. How can you blame a thing which you didn’t do ?
@@vorsprung2330 you need to calm dial first and foremost I'm only coming in on the fact that it is not a good program for beginners that is all
@@1986Faruq
I am as calm as water bro
Just you didn’t study madina books
And you are speaking like you completed.
Allah knows best
But if you have ever studied even hardly madina book two you would have understood a lot things in class
@vorsprung2330 there is something wrong with you
may God help you
Madinah books are diamonds
Madina book are treasures
Ya Aba Taymiyyah, the author of the Madinah books himself agrees with you:
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Starts from 29:05
Madina books are best
Al arabia ben yadek is the best
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