IET 15.4: Francis Turretin on Effectual Calling, Part 1

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  • @SlaveofGod
    @SlaveofGod 3 місяці тому

    Glad to see more videos released. Keep it up!

  • @camilac2223
    @camilac2223 3 місяці тому

    Yayyy excited for this 🥳

  • @matt8637
    @matt8637 2 місяці тому

    Could regeneration and conversion be two separate things? Regeneration being monergistic and conversion being something in which we participate?

    • @scholasticismreformed166
      @scholasticismreformed166  2 місяці тому +1

      @@matt8637 hello brother, God bless. If you watch the second video, I note Turretin’s distinction (one that is common in Reformed orthodoxy) between habitual conversion and actual conversion. The former is commonly denoted as regeneration, and it is that in which man is passively infused with supernatural qualities (hence, “monergistic). Whereas actual conversion is something in which we cooperate with (or as Turretin prefers, operate under) the grace of God, which means participation yes. In short, you’re precisely on the right track. Turretin also deals with this elsewhere, in Q. 5 of the 15th Topic, right after the Question covered in these two videos of mine. In it, he poses the status of the question as:
      “Whether in the first moment of conversion man is merely passive or whether his will cooperates in some measure with the grace of God. The
      former we affirm and deny the latter against all Synergists.”
      He goes on to say the following:
      “The question does not concern the second stage of conversion in which it is certain that man is not merely passive, but cooperates with God (or rather operates under him). Indeed he actually believes and converts himself to God; while being acted upon, he acts; and being regenerated and moved by God, he moves himself to the exercise of the new life. Rather the question concerns the first moment when he is converted and receives new life by regeneration. We contend that he is merely passive in this, as a receiving subject and not as an acting principle.” (IET, XV.v.ii.)
      Hope that helps!

  • @kyoto8911
    @kyoto8911 3 місяці тому

    looking forward to part 2! 🙏🏽

  • @DutchCatholicity
    @DutchCatholicity 3 місяці тому

    Wonderful