@@NotGetRichTv …no. Necromorphs are made from corpses, imagine a xeno-necromorph swarm. You have to back away the limbs and the xenomorphs will have a hard time, being nearly impossible trying to do that when they’re up against their own kind, possibly even enhanced versions of their kind.
I am a huge fan of the flood from halo and know all the lore about it and it surprises me how similar the necromorphs are to the flood. The final stage for both are forming a collective being (gravemind for the flood, the moon for the necromorphs).
The marker uses necromorphs as pawns and once they lose its limbs and no longer useful the marker doesn't bother controlling it...unless the specially created regenerating ones
Dismemberer necromorph: Ellie’s audio log in dead space 2: Dead space demo finger: Dead space swarm: Dead space after math: living heads Dead space extraction: living heads
Actually all necromorph limbs will become corruption and that's another way of how the recombinant life form spreads so quickly through the ship as the marker makes use of all of the body parts.
First! Nice to see the Dead Space content again thx I love the deep interesting lore on the necromorphs, the markers, all the forms and stages, and how it works. It sets it apart from the many type of undead like zombies, even some viruses too.
@@TheBritishRunner I hope you feel better btw But yeah I love the game series it’s my favorite, it’s still somewhat underrated yet can’t wait for the new remake and other similar projects. It’s just rare to see new dead space content nowadays cuz either not many cover it or they cover all they could which is understandable but I rewatch it regardlessly lol
Stage One sounds very Cthulhuian. I've never seen or heard of that comparison within Dead Space but I'm fascinated by the possibility that the lore creators were in fact inspired by the Call of Cthulhu
I've never been able to understand, where does the necrotic flesh come from? Like how the physical object creates some kind of biowarfare. Did i get this right?The marker has blueprints on some kind of DNA? Which is then created by some scientists in a lab? And then when it comes into to contact with living cells it starts the transformation?
@@monkiman7460 when they find (or build a marker) it starts to output a signal. I'm keeping it very basic here. that signal among other things causes neurological upset Because there is information being processed by the brain on how to build an alien machine, in an alien language. this is what is causing the madness. The information? How to create markers, and how to create a gene sequence to be added to human (or whatever hosts) DNA. This is what creates the corruption and thus necromorphs. this is discussed multiple times in the material. The colony outbreak happened after corruption left over from the red marker test site. It worked its way along the vents and main ducts. The first necromorph to form on the colony was a person killed by the corruption and turned into a leaper. In both books the outbreaks happened when the corruption came into contact with dead bodies. This newly created recombinant microbe is able to spread through air vents by infecting everything dead that gets into the vents, skin cells, dead blood cells from our breath, along with dead bacteria etc. This is what the corruption is. And it's spreads. there is much more, and I've discussed this loads of times. The marker is needed for a necromorph outbreak to happen, but it's NOT what creates the necromorphs. The marker has never been shown to turn an organism by its signal. now I know the runner has put forward a whole "retcon" story, but none of it makes sense, at all. not to mention this. Him and everyone else states that the reason infectors are needed is because it takes a while for the marker to create necromorphs by its signal. He calmed this after I asked why dead bodies are all over the place if it's the marker. what's concerning about this is that. a) dead space 2 and 3 both include infector variants. So why keep them in if they've retconned the story already to show the marker is the thing doing the mutating. b)And this is the most "hard to fathom" one for me. He claims the film aftermath shows the marker shard tuning bodies in the morgue. I've explained the scenario multiple times but this still hasn't sunk in I don't think. If the marker takes too long to turn bodies, and needs help, then how does the corruption form? and how..............did the bodies turn that quickly in aftermath from just the presence of a shard???? It's rapidly created necromorphs there but never ONCE do we see that in the games or other media. People haven't understood the story that's been explained in great detail in the overall ark of dead space. The marker DOES NOT create the necromorphs. It's needed for the outbreak, but it's the microbe that does the mutating USING the markers energy to allow it to happen. This is why necromorphs do not die, how 2 million year old necros are still on toa volantis. it was all there, and no one put it together. And people like the runner have claimed retcon at everything they didn't understand. so there it is. Explained very simply. This is why none of what this guy states I take serious anymore. His information has changed drastically throughout his entire catalogue, and still hasn't grasped the story. And neither has any fan I've ever had a discussion with. People would rather claim the Devs weren't clear enough or simply changed the lore. They didn't and I can prove that very easily, just as I've done here.
You should make a theory video on how or who created the very first marker? There is no way it was naturally created. It had to been an advance Alien species who created it thinking it would supply them with infinite energy.
I figure the Markers are made by the Brethren Moons, to convert other societies. The Markers aren't sources of energy, they are merely relays. So the Brethren Moons detect a Marker has been found/activated, and attempt to use their psychic powers through that Marker (the first stage listed in the video). If that psychic signal works, the Brethren Moons then provide power to that Marker. This prevents a society from creating Markers that are immune to the Brethren Moons' effects. So the first culture made the Markers as psionic and energy relay systems, to make a better communications and power network. Over time that society converted into the first Brethren Moon, and that Moon began making more Markers.
@@lsd-rickb-1728 I'm just saying because Dead Space 3 went into the whole lovecraftian horror genres, it could possibly went into the realm of Cthulu where it made the markers, just a fan theory/speculation.
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@@knox7945 _Dead Space_ is definitely a beautiful instance of *Cosmicism* or *Cosmic Horror,* defined loosely as an outlook of Cosmic Indifference possessing both aspects of existential nihilism and philosophical pessimism wherein there is a terrifying and disturbing truth extant beneath the seemingly banal reality of the universe wherein great monstrosities describable only as "Gods" or "Eldritch Powers" stomp about in the dark periphery of man's comprehension, inducing depression, terror, and suicide to those who piece together a knowledge of their existence wherein the only true escape is madness, death, or forgetfulness. That said however, it's not necessarily _Lovecraftian._ That term's been overused to hell and in a lot of inappropriate instances, voiding it of its meaning. For something to be Lovecraftian, it has to be at least one of three things, *(A)* a literary prop like Yog-Sothoth or Cthulhu written by H.P. Lovecraft himself, *(B)* an add-on to Lovecraft's work during (with lettered correspondence to the man himself) or immediately after his lifetime facilitated by those like August Derleth and other anthologists who grafted in literarily/philosophically congruent stories by other pulp writers into the "Cthulhu Mythos", usually facilitated by _Weird Tales_ then later _Arkham House_ publishing companies, or *(C)* a contemporary horror writer that's made direct references or mirroring allusions to *(A)* or *(B)* that are implied to take place in the same "universe" or "multiverse". I love Lovecraft's writings and I know they inspired Visceral Games' writers and arts but, they don't fulfill any of the above. They're definitely _Cosmic_ in their horror but, they're not _Lovecraftian_ and there's nothing wrong with that; they've gone ahead and made their niche in the market of ideas which I've since described as _"Fermion"_ Horror, in reference to the Fermi Paradox on whose questions and absence of sentient life the game series and books rest.
Would have Nicole’s cure for the Necromorphs infection actually work or was she simply being lead by hallucinations that her cure could work from the effects of the Red Marker? Just asking like theory wise.
I'm not sure with the recombinant DNA story it could be possible but would act as a prevention method not a cure to be used on necromorphes kind of like zombrex from the dead rising series.
Wouldn't be surprised if she was being trolled by the Marker like many others, she believed she was making a cure, but in reality she was brewing some random crap or even worse, something lethal for humans to further the body count, but she wasn't aware, i think it would have been fucked up if she finished this and started inoculating people, just for things to go south and she found out at a later date, this being a catalyst for her taking her life, Isaac or us would find out in an audio log as an unlockable in a new game plus.
It could also have been a poison to both kill and stop dead tissue from being recycled via the hiveminds or during convergence when all flesh gets used to make a brother moon?
4 stages Stage 1: Desperate for funds or need funds to finish product, EA Buys it Stage 2: have a successful game- EA demands more success from said game and a higher budget. Stage 3: team uses larger budget, but can’t get the full gain back Stage 4: denying the loss EA interferes and eventually shuts down the studio instead of treating the success as found money and resetting the series with a new studio once the makers of it ether don’t want it or can’t run it well
@@TheBritishRunner Remake, kinda- reboot kinda Stage 1: EA funds the game The issac trilogy Dead space 1 acted on real basic values- crew mates and relationships stuck in a situation Dead space 2 worked on rediscovering those values Dead space 3 was ‘sacrifice all for this person’s values- also we destroyed all built before hand so why not?’ I think dead space 3 could’ve been a RPG game of Issac trying to preserve the things he values on a isolation colony after the ‘secret fleet’ has a ship crash nearby as it would’ve been a good reaction on dead space 1 and 2- think thief or mass effect, but on a dead space colony. Another option is making dead space 3 a RPG where you can leave the planet with Ellie at any point or destroy key ways to reach areas and prevent yourself from continuing forward as well as anyone else, forcing Ellie to abandon her mission, it shouldn’t have been a ‘the world ended in 7 hours because the unity attacked’ the focus swing was way too fast and rarely or never brought up in the contest that it was presented as Dead space mobile acts a lot on a person trying to act on higher values- station, ‘what is right’ and being mislead and offering redemption on those values as they betray them when mis lead Extraction acts more on a similar goal- Ekheart(?) acting on dead space 3- galaxy wide and ‘greater good’ directly, while Nadine acts on relationships and one on one while the security officer acts on duty, locality, group values
@@silent_stalker3687 They've already said in their first interview that they will not be changing the story so it's not a reboot its a remake there is a difference.
@@TheBritishRunner I never meant the remake that’s actually being done, I just meant things like when it was being made. Think of game of thrones season 8, they couldn’t leave the contract, they wanted to work on other things as they were being burnt out… A break or a few spin offs to fill the time would’ve been a way to add in side stuff and to get more time to work on things. Think of rockstar and how often they release sequels to their games
@@silent_stalker3687 Even so there were alot more moving parts in the background leading up to Viscerals demise as a employee once said "It was a mercy killing" as thanks to the new creative director she successfully destroyed Visceral from within after leaving Naughty Dog. But a lot was happening aswell. Ok I thought you were talking about it but now you've lost me which game are we talking about?
Dead Space is my favorite scifi horror series, thank you so much for covering it so extensively. I feel like EA had lightning in a bottle and they decided to ol' yeller instead.
@@joshuar3632 you mean capgod? They misfired with Resident Evil 3 Remake but they’ve been releasing good content since 2017 and they fixed up Street Fighter 5 pretty well.
It stands to reason that there isn't a set population cap, or mass cap. For biologic material needed. I think that the marker would repurpous as much mass as it can, dependent upon availability. I feel like it could take anywhere between 12 hours to a whole day. In cases where there is more mass. It could take longer.
stages of a Brother Moon: Stage 1: from brother moons, no resources, time to become a bigass marker Stage 2: slumber Stage 3: monke becomes smart Stage 4: monke go to space, wait for monke uses up all of the planet resources and energy Stage 5: become the energy Stage 6: make 1 monke spread Stage 7: wait Stage 8: when all monkes became dead moving flesh, mash up like playdoh and some rocks for skin Stage 9: eat the monke's planet once became bigass moon Stage 10: repeat when planet became shit
I can't say for certain but I don't think so perhaps it was like that because the different team thought it looked cool going behind viscerals back or maybe that was the original design before heading towards golden and red flares
Would you think its possible to kill a brethren moon? Since a Marker is at its heart(or is its heart) would destroying the marker also kill the moon? i think it could accoplished in 2 ways. 1)send someone like Issac into the moon(like in Deadspace 3 with that Nexus) to destroy the marker using the steps or something else. 2) Rig a large shockpoint drive like a bomb and denoate on or near a brethen moon to destroy it and the marker like in deadspace aftermath. what are your thoughts on it?
Deadspace 4 should have had the remnants of humanity leaving the Sol system, planning to find a place to hide and rebuild (the Battlestar Galactica strategy). On the way out, they pas the USG Ishimura, and Isaac gets a crazy idea. They decide to go onto the Ishimura, get it back into working order, and crack a Brethren Moon. They fix her up, head back, and use the Ishimura's gravity tethers (and other equipment) to get down to the core of a Brethren Moon, to pull the Marker at its core out. The Asteroid Mining setup on the Mining deck is then reversed to launch that Marker into the Sun. Lots of cursing the entire time, but then the Marker reaches the sun and gets vaporized. That Brethren Moon dies. The other Brethren Moons then begin to leave, afraid for the first time in their lives. Game ends with Isaac & friends looking over a shipyard with 3-4 Ishimura-class Mooncrackers being built. Humanity wants revenge.
@@toddkes5890 I'm not really sure why so many fans want the Ishimura back, since Dead Space 2 already did that fan service. Although I do think that planet crackers will become important to defeating the Necromorphs, I find it more interesting if that plot thread about Isaac's ship-building dad going missing on a top secret mission was followed up on. Maybe Isaac's dad had been working on a project to defeat the Necromorphs all this time, in the form of the most powerful space weapon ever invented. Although maybe this would come at the cost of unleashing a threat even more uncontrollable than the Necromorphs. Imagine releasing a swarm of unstoppable robots that tear the Moons into shreds, only for them to pay attention to humans next.
@@Crazypixiness they destroy marker fragments in one of the dead space movies. The 2nd one told from different PoVs of the surviving crew. But if destroyed as seen there and in DS2 the necromorphs all die out. So imo it is highly likely. Though 1. You'd have to find the MAIN marker 2. You'd have to probably drill through several layers of flesh to reach the marker probably hidden deep within the brother moon 3. Destroy the marker fragments 4. Destroy any copied man or other alien made markers 5. Destroy the OG brother moon since it is heavily implied brother moons help make other moons. So like a were wolf or vampire kinda thing killing the original original one and all others get the curse lifted or die too.
To be fair, the people who died during the first stages of the outbreak would be considered the lucky one's. Not having to be killed by the necromorpths themselves.
Yo, I know you commented this a while ago, but I'd like to respond anyways. I hope this interests you. First of all, something to establish: Dead Space constantly COMICALLY underestimates the numbers of people inhabiting it's various space stations/ships, etc. For example: the Ishimura having a crew of only 6000 despite being so large (possibly city-sized?) it has a tram system and appartment-size living quarters!?!?!? Tiedmann having only ~100k guards left in the government sector before it got overrun!? (Even assuming Tiedmann lost 99.9% of his manpower by that time, (which is pretty generous considering Isaac Clarke, a simple engineer manages to survive 2 necromorph outbreaks almost by himself) that would still mean he had ~100M men at the start, which is a tiny number for a space station the SIZE OF A MOON) Ignoring this, we can guage a few things from our stay at the sprawl: first of all: it's name is no lie, it is named Titan Station because it is litterally located on one of Saturn's moons: Titan! (you can even see Saturn in the background on many occasions during DS2) And, if you watched the ending cutscene of Dead Space 2, you can see the Sprawl is roughly the size of the moon itself. Another factor is that, just like the station itself, Titan's population was expanding at an unprecedented rate at the time of the outbreak and was visibly packed with people. So, knowing that we have a space station the size of Titan with a population that could reasonably fill the entire station (not litterally, but in terms of real estate, at least) and disregarding Dead Space's laughably ridiculous population estimates, I believe we can reasonably assume you could create at least a small bretheren moon with the Sprawl's population. I hope my autistic ahh explaination at least entertained you.
Ok I know this might be a bit of a doozy for me too understand but can a marker convert a xenomorph into one of the necromorphs? Reason why I ask is because I wonder if the corruption/ marker could mutate something with akin to acidic compound. And my second question how would Isaac react to the flood from the halo series and vise versa I with master Chief with the necromorphs?
1. It works on alien necromorphs and we got the corrosive acid spitters in DS2 and DS3. So yes so long as the xenomorph is dead the flesh or armored body would be of use still. When necromorphs change it is cannon their blood boils. We see it in DS2 intro with the infector turning that guy. So corrosive blood wouldn't be an issue as much. Plus xenos are immune to their own corrosive blood. Just make a necromorph out of all dead xenomorphs 2. Issac would find a way 3. Same with master chief.
Why does no one ever seem to question the necromorph at the beginning of the motion Comic? Was active weeks before the Marker or Corruption was encountered. Also, it stabs Vera through the shoulder but it's never even mentioned or alluded to.
Can you do a lore video about the moon in the third Dead Space Isaac card on the moon the first play azzam my eyes are left the Moon did Humanity Stomp the Necromorph amperage on the moon right after he left can you make a video about that please
Have ya seen halo, have ya seen what they are doing to my boy. Nah I'm good atm there needs to be dedication involved to get a good horror movie of dead space.
@@TheBritishRunner haha same id most likely want to be the ubermorph from DS2, id have the powers of a regenerator while looking like a humanoid hivemind
Twitchers or those stasis necromorphs Unless you're fast can block them with objects or have a stasis module (which goes with first point anyhow) they can pretty much kill anything or anyone fast before they have time to draw their weapons or fire a 2nd shot as seen in DS1 amd DS3.
Ik this is going to be a *very unpopular opinion* but once the people who are currently making the dead space remake is finally released and it becomes a smashing success hopefully they will create a Dead Space 2 remake and also bring back the multiplayer because for me personally I found it to be very underrated what they can do is add more players in a lobby and allow us to play as many other different necromorphs and hopefully a game mode or maps where there are several civilians in the chaos and maybe a boss hunt mode where 4 sprawl members are tasked to take out a necromorph boss or a marker and a game mode where you can play as a Ubermorph hunting down every last surviving human being able to call your several necromorph brothers and sisters to assist you being able to command them to flank to get the upper hand on earth gov to become a hive mind or maybe even a game mode or dlc where you play as a rogue necromorph that is resistant to the marker still having his/her human memories and despises the brethren moons and has only one goal to kill every last necromorph until the last one standing is itself and every necromorph it kills makes it become more powerful like a necromorph doom slayer
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My new intro will now wake you up lol
WAKE ME UP
WAKE ME UP INSIDE!
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Stage 1; death
Stage 2; more death
Stage 3; large death with extra death
Stage 4; Death, the return of the death
1: go crazy
2:die/kill yourself
3:come back to life
4: cut to pieces/die again
stage 5: i am become death, the death of death
Two numba deaths, a numba death large, a numba death with extra dip, a numba death, two number deaths, one with cheese, and a large death.
If they remake dead space 2 one day they should add a zoo area on titan station so you'll have to fight animal necromorphs. Great video as always.
I do remember reading from somewhere that there was a fish necromorph.
Please no
I don’t wanna fight a mutated gorilla
@@sharkedog6007 dead space martyr.
@@lordtachanka3923 *brute just kinda steps into frame*
Am I a joke to you?
@@lordtachanka3923 then what do you think that humans are? Not all mutations lead to superpowers, some just make you bald apes.
I'd love to see a Necromorphs vs Xenomorph concept. It'd be dope
I mean the necromorphs would win with basically no contest. They are basically unstoppable.
@@zane120 not necessarily xenos would definitely be a legit threat.
without a doubt the Xeno would be claimed by the Marker. A XenoNecromorph would be absolutely terrifying though
@@zane120 idk man, the acid blood might be useful for fighting against the disease Mayne?
@@NotGetRichTv …no. Necromorphs are made from corpses, imagine a xeno-necromorph swarm. You have to back away the limbs and the xenomorphs will have a hard time, being nearly impossible trying to do that when they’re up against their own kind, possibly even enhanced versions of their kind.
I am a huge fan of the flood from halo and know all the lore about it and it surprises me how similar the necromorphs are to the flood. The final stage for both are forming a collective being (gravemind for the flood, the moon for the necromorphs).
Absolutely love the new intro runner!
Thank you I worked on that yesterday.
The marker uses necromorphs as pawns and once they lose its limbs and no longer useful the marker doesn't bother controlling it...unless the specially created regenerating ones
Dismemberer necromorph:
Ellie’s audio log in dead space 2:
Dead space demo finger:
Dead space swarm:
Dead space after math: living heads
Dead space extraction: living heads
Actually all necromorph limbs will become corruption and that's another way of how the recombinant life form spreads so quickly through the ship as the marker makes use of all of the body parts.
They also form the sticky biomass all over the building and eventually parts can be salvaged and used to form the multiple person necromorphs
First!
Nice to see the Dead Space content again thx
I love the deep interesting lore on the necromorphs, the markers, all the forms and stages, and how it works. It sets it apart from the many type of undead like zombies, even some viruses too.
No worries glad to see you are enjoying the content.
@@TheBritishRunner I hope you feel better btw
But yeah I love the game series it’s my favorite, it’s still somewhat underrated yet can’t wait for the new remake and other similar projects.
It’s just rare to see new dead space content nowadays cuz either not many cover it or they cover all they could which is understandable but I rewatch it regardlessly lol
Stage One sounds very Cthulhuian. I've never seen or heard of that comparison within Dead Space but I'm fascinated by the possibility that the lore creators were in fact inspired by the Call of Cthulhu
Dead space was always pretty lovecraftian
loved you breaking the wall and considering the possibility you are becoming a necromorph 👏👏👏
I've never been able to understand, where does the necrotic flesh come from? Like how the physical object creates some kind of biowarfare. Did i get this right?The marker has blueprints on some kind of DNA? Which is then created by some scientists in a lab? And then when it comes into to contact with living cells it starts the transformation?
@@erwarsa Thank you!!!
@@nihilityjoey okayyy, then do you know what does? Or is that still kinda something that isn't well known?
@@nihilityjoey please do tell the real reason
@@haydenmorgan-dunn3027 and then eventually they become giant genius flesh moons 😂
@@monkiman7460 when they find (or build a marker) it starts to output a signal. I'm keeping it very basic here.
that signal among other things causes neurological upset Because there is information being processed by the brain on how to build an alien machine, in an alien language. this is what is causing the madness. The information? How to create markers, and how to create a gene sequence to be added to human (or whatever hosts) DNA. This is what creates the corruption and thus necromorphs.
this is discussed multiple times in the material. The colony outbreak happened after corruption left over from the red marker test site. It worked its way along the vents and main ducts. The first necromorph to form on the colony was a person killed by the corruption and turned into a leaper. In both books the outbreaks happened when the corruption came into contact with dead bodies. This newly created recombinant microbe is able to spread through air vents by infecting everything dead that gets into the vents, skin cells, dead blood cells from our breath, along with dead bacteria etc. This is what the corruption is. And it's spreads.
there is much more, and I've discussed this loads of times. The marker is needed for a necromorph outbreak to happen, but it's NOT what creates the necromorphs. The marker has never been shown to turn an organism by its signal.
now I know the runner has put forward a whole "retcon" story, but none of it makes sense, at all. not to mention this. Him and everyone else states that the reason infectors are needed is because it takes a while for the marker to create necromorphs by its signal. He calmed this after I asked why dead bodies are all over the place if it's the marker.
what's concerning about this is that.
a) dead space 2 and 3 both include infector variants. So why keep them in if they've retconned the story already to show the marker is the thing doing the mutating.
b)And this is the most "hard to fathom" one for me. He claims the film aftermath shows the marker shard tuning bodies in the morgue. I've explained the scenario multiple times but this still hasn't sunk in I don't think. If the marker takes too long to turn bodies, and needs help, then how does the corruption form? and how..............did the bodies turn that quickly in aftermath from just the presence of a shard???? It's rapidly created necromorphs there but never ONCE do we see that in the games or other media.
People haven't understood the story that's been explained in great detail in the overall ark of dead space. The marker DOES NOT create the necromorphs. It's needed for the outbreak, but it's the microbe that does the mutating USING the markers energy to allow it to happen. This is why necromorphs do not die, how 2 million year old necros are still on toa volantis. it was all there, and no one put it together. And people like the runner have claimed retcon at everything they didn't understand.
so there it is. Explained very simply. This is why none of what this guy states I take serious anymore. His information has changed drastically throughout his entire catalogue, and still hasn't grasped the story. And neither has any fan I've ever had a discussion with. People would rather claim the Devs weren't clear enough or simply changed the lore. They didn't and I can prove that very easily, just as I've done here.
You should make a theory video on how or who created the very first marker? There is no way it was naturally created. It had to been an advance Alien species who created it thinking it would supply them with infinite energy.
Cthulu itself. Dead Space does have a lovecraftian horror, so 🤷.
I figure the Markers are made by the Brethren Moons, to convert other societies. The Markers aren't sources of energy, they are merely relays. So the Brethren Moons detect a Marker has been found/activated, and attempt to use their psychic powers through that Marker (the first stage listed in the video). If that psychic signal works, the Brethren Moons then provide power to that Marker. This prevents a society from creating Markers that are immune to the Brethren Moons' effects.
So the first culture made the Markers as psionic and energy relay systems, to make a better communications and power network. Over time that society converted into the first Brethren Moon, and that Moon began making more Markers.
@@knox7945 it wasn't cuthulu? What are you talking about
@@lsd-rickb-1728 I'm just saying because Dead Space 3 went into the whole lovecraftian horror genres, it could possibly went into the realm of Cthulu where it made the markers, just a fan theory/speculation.
@@knox7945
_Dead Space_ is definitely a beautiful instance of *Cosmicism* or *Cosmic Horror,* defined loosely as an outlook of Cosmic Indifference possessing both aspects of existential nihilism and philosophical pessimism wherein there is a terrifying and disturbing truth extant beneath the seemingly banal reality of the universe wherein great monstrosities describable only as "Gods" or "Eldritch Powers" stomp about in the dark periphery of man's comprehension, inducing depression, terror, and suicide to those who piece together a knowledge of their existence wherein the only true escape is madness, death, or forgetfulness.
That said however, it's not necessarily _Lovecraftian._ That term's been overused to hell and in a lot of inappropriate instances, voiding it of its meaning. For something to be Lovecraftian, it has to be at least one of three things, *(A)* a literary prop like Yog-Sothoth or Cthulhu written by H.P. Lovecraft himself, *(B)* an add-on to Lovecraft's work during (with lettered correspondence to the man himself) or immediately after his lifetime facilitated by those like August Derleth and other anthologists who grafted in literarily/philosophically congruent stories by other pulp writers into the "Cthulhu Mythos", usually facilitated by _Weird Tales_ then later _Arkham House_ publishing companies, or *(C)* a contemporary horror writer that's made direct references or mirroring allusions to *(A)* or *(B)* that are implied to take place in the same "universe" or "multiverse".
I love Lovecraft's writings and I know they inspired Visceral Games' writers and arts but, they don't fulfill any of the above. They're definitely _Cosmic_ in their horror but, they're not _Lovecraftian_ and there's nothing wrong with that; they've gone ahead and made their niche in the market of ideas which I've since described as _"Fermion"_ Horror, in reference to the Fermi Paradox on whose questions and absence of sentient life the game series and books rest.
Would have Nicole’s cure for the Necromorphs infection actually work or was she simply being lead by hallucinations that her cure could work from the effects of the Red Marker? Just asking like theory wise.
I'm not sure with the recombinant DNA story it could be possible but would act as a prevention method not a cure to be used on necromorphes kind of like zombrex from the dead rising series.
@@TheBritishRunner especially considering necromorphes are, well, dead. What would it do, make the corpse perma dead? No longer able to animate?
Wouldn't be surprised if she was being trolled by the Marker like many others, she believed she was making a cure, but in reality she was brewing some random crap or even worse, something lethal for humans to further the body count, but she wasn't aware, i think it would have been fucked up if she finished this and started inoculating people, just for things to go south and she found out at a later date, this being a catalyst for her taking her life, Isaac or us would find out in an audio log as an unlockable in a new game plus.
It was not a cure it was something to render you from marker signal like Lexine Immune
It could also have been a poison to both kill and stop dead tissue from being recycled via the hiveminds or during convergence when all flesh gets used to make a brother moon?
4 stages
Stage 1: Desperate for funds or need funds to finish product, EA Buys it
Stage 2: have a successful game- EA demands more success from said game and a higher budget.
Stage 3: team uses larger budget, but can’t get the full gain back
Stage 4: denying the loss EA interferes and eventually shuts down the studio instead of treating the success as found money and resetting the series with a new studio once the makers of it ether don’t want it or can’t run it well
Resetting? You mean remaking lol also EA funds the games development so they don't need to ask for more funding lol.
@@TheBritishRunner Remake, kinda- reboot kinda
Stage 1: EA funds the game
The issac trilogy
Dead space 1 acted on real basic values- crew mates and relationships stuck in a situation
Dead space 2 worked on rediscovering those values
Dead space 3 was ‘sacrifice all for this person’s values- also we destroyed all built before hand so why not?’
I think dead space 3 could’ve been a RPG game of Issac trying to preserve the things he values on a isolation colony after the ‘secret fleet’ has a ship crash nearby as it would’ve been a good reaction on dead space 1 and 2- think thief or mass effect, but on a dead space colony.
Another option is making dead space 3 a RPG where you can leave the planet with Ellie at any point or destroy key ways to reach areas and prevent yourself from continuing forward as well as anyone else, forcing Ellie to abandon her mission, it shouldn’t have been a ‘the world ended in 7 hours because the unity attacked’ the focus swing was way too fast and rarely or never brought up in the contest that it was presented as
Dead space mobile acts a lot on a person trying to act on higher values- station, ‘what is right’ and being mislead and offering redemption on those values as they betray them when mis lead
Extraction acts more on a similar goal- Ekheart(?) acting on dead space 3- galaxy wide and ‘greater good’ directly, while Nadine acts on relationships and one on one while the security officer acts on duty, locality, group values
@@silent_stalker3687 They've already said in their first interview that they will not be changing the story so it's not a reboot its a remake there is a difference.
@@TheBritishRunner I never meant the remake that’s actually being done, I just meant things like when it was being made.
Think of game of thrones season 8, they couldn’t leave the contract, they wanted to work on other things as they were being burnt out…
A break or a few spin offs to fill the time would’ve been a way to add in side stuff and to get more time to work on things.
Think of rockstar and how often they release sequels to their games
@@silent_stalker3687 Even so there were alot more moving parts in the background leading up to Viscerals demise as a employee once said "It was a mercy killing" as thanks to the new creative director she successfully destroyed Visceral from within after leaving Naughty Dog. But a lot was happening aswell. Ok I thought you were talking about it but now you've lost me which game are we talking about?
Dead Space is my favorite scifi horror series, thank you so much for covering it so extensively. I feel like EA had lightning in a bottle and they decided to ol' yeller instead.
I can’t wait for the remake of dead space 1 to come out. It’s going to look and play so goo on this generation of consoles.
Good thing crapcom isnt involved
@@joshuar3632 you mean capgod? They misfired with Resident Evil 3 Remake but they’ve been releasing good content since 2017 and they fixed up Street Fighter 5 pretty well.
@Mister Majestic Mistakes were made. They did not expand on the experience in Raccoon City but instead lessened it.
It stands to reason that there isn't a set population cap, or mass cap. For biologic material needed. I think that the marker would repurpous as much mass as it can, dependent upon availability. I feel like it could take anywhere between 12 hours to a whole day. In cases where there is more mass. It could take longer.
stages of a Brother Moon:
Stage 1: from brother moons, no resources, time to become a bigass marker
Stage 2: slumber
Stage 3: monke becomes smart
Stage 4: monke go to space, wait for monke uses up all of the planet resources and energy
Stage 5: become the energy
Stage 6: make 1 monke spread
Stage 7: wait
Stage 8: when all monkes became dead moving flesh, mash up like playdoh and some rocks for skin
Stage 9: eat the monke's planet once became bigass moon
Stage 10: repeat when planet became shit
Great vid as always bro.
3:41
Damn this looks satisfying
I wished they would have shown what happened to marine life?
So is there lore about a the White Marker Vandal had a vision about? Or is that something her madness had conjured up?
I can't say for certain but I don't think so perhaps it was like that because the different team thought it looked cool going behind viscerals back or maybe that was the original design before heading towards golden and red flares
Would you think its possible to kill a brethren moon? Since a Marker is at its heart(or is its heart) would destroying the marker also kill the moon? i think it could accoplished in 2 ways. 1)send someone like Issac into the moon(like in Deadspace 3 with that Nexus) to destroy the marker using the steps or something else. 2) Rig a large shockpoint drive like a bomb and denoate on or near a brethen moon to destroy it and the marker like in deadspace aftermath. what are your thoughts on it?
Isn't there a problem with the marker shards still having power, though? Not a bad thought.
Deadspace 4 should have had the remnants of humanity leaving the Sol system, planning to find a place to hide and rebuild (the Battlestar Galactica strategy). On the way out, they pas the USG Ishimura, and Isaac gets a crazy idea.
They decide to go onto the Ishimura, get it back into working order, and crack a Brethren Moon. They fix her up, head back, and use the Ishimura's gravity tethers (and other equipment) to get down to the core of a Brethren Moon, to pull the Marker at its core out. The Asteroid Mining setup on the Mining deck is then reversed to launch that Marker into the Sun. Lots of cursing the entire time, but then the Marker reaches the sun and gets vaporized. That Brethren Moon dies.
The other Brethren Moons then begin to leave, afraid for the first time in their lives. Game ends with Isaac & friends looking over a shipyard with 3-4 Ishimura-class Mooncrackers being built. Humanity wants revenge.
@@toddkes5890 I'm not really sure why so many fans want the Ishimura back, since Dead Space 2 already did that fan service. Although I do think that planet crackers will become important to defeating the Necromorphs, I find it more interesting if that plot thread about Isaac's ship-building dad going missing on a top secret mission was followed up on. Maybe Isaac's dad had been working on a project to defeat the Necromorphs all this time, in the form of the most powerful space weapon ever invented.
Although maybe this would come at the cost of unleashing a threat even more uncontrollable than the Necromorphs. Imagine releasing a swarm of unstoppable robots that tear the Moons into shreds, only for them to pay attention to humans next.
@@Crazypixiness they destroy marker fragments in one of the dead space movies. The 2nd one told from different PoVs of the surviving crew.
But if destroyed as seen there and in DS2 the necromorphs all die out.
So imo it is highly likely. Though
1. You'd have to find the MAIN marker
2. You'd have to probably drill through several layers of flesh to reach the marker probably hidden deep within the brother moon
3. Destroy the marker fragments
4. Destroy any copied man or other alien made markers
5. Destroy the OG brother moon since it is heavily implied brother moons help make other moons. So like a were wolf or vampire kinda thing killing the original original one and all others get the curse lifted or die too.
You know what else can destroy a marker?
A black hole, and a star.
To be fair, the people who died during the first stages of the outbreak would be considered the lucky one's. Not having to be killed by the necromorpths themselves.
That is true!
Does titan station and the sprawl even have the population to create a brethren moon.
Yo, I know you commented this a while ago, but I'd like to respond anyways. I hope this interests you. First of all, something to establish: Dead Space constantly COMICALLY underestimates the numbers of people inhabiting it's various space stations/ships, etc. For example: the Ishimura having a crew of only 6000 despite being so large (possibly city-sized?) it has a tram system and appartment-size living quarters!?!?!? Tiedmann having only ~100k guards left in the government sector before it got overrun!? (Even assuming Tiedmann lost 99.9% of his manpower by that time, (which is pretty generous considering Isaac Clarke, a simple engineer manages to survive 2 necromorph outbreaks almost by himself) that would still mean he had ~100M men at the start, which is a tiny number for a space station the SIZE OF A MOON) Ignoring this, we can guage a few things from our stay at the sprawl: first of all: it's name is no lie, it is named Titan Station because it is litterally located on one of Saturn's moons: Titan! (you can even see Saturn in the background on many occasions during DS2) And, if you watched the ending cutscene of Dead Space 2, you can see the Sprawl is roughly the size of the moon itself. Another factor is that, just like the station itself, Titan's population was expanding at an unprecedented rate at the time of the outbreak and was visibly packed with people. So, knowing that we have a space station the size of Titan with a population that could reasonably fill the entire station (not litterally, but in terms of real estate, at least) and disregarding Dead Space's laughably ridiculous population estimates, I believe we can reasonably assume you could create at least a small bretheren moon with the Sprawl's population. I hope my autistic ahh explaination at least entertained you.
Did you enjoy the Callisto protocol, my friend?
No
I'm writing a fan novel On this called "Dead Space: Extinction". It'll be done in next few months. For all thr fans of Dead Space franchise.
I feel like the horizons lunar colony outbreak skipped a few steps smh
Convergence skip, speedrun strats
Thanks for video bro thanks 😊
Ok I know this might be a bit of a doozy for me too understand but can a marker convert a xenomorph into one of the necromorphs? Reason why I ask is because I wonder if the corruption/ marker could mutate something with akin to acidic compound. And my second question how would Isaac react to the flood from the halo series and vise versa I with master Chief with the necromorphs?
Idk about your first question but as far as the flood, Isaac would figure it out
@@NRG56 what I meant is could a marker signal or the corruption turn a xeno into a necromorph
@@treyfranklin6952 yea i know, i can't answer that one for you, but if i know my boy Isaac and his boy plasma cutter, i think he'll be fine haha
@@NRG56 oh ..but anyways thanks
1. It works on alien necromorphs and we got the corrosive acid spitters in DS2 and DS3. So yes so long as the xenomorph is dead the flesh or armored body would be of use still. When necromorphs change it is cannon their blood boils. We see it in DS2 intro with the infector turning that guy. So corrosive blood wouldn't be an issue as much. Plus xenos are immune to their own corrosive blood. Just make a necromorph out of all dead xenomorphs
2. Issac would find a way
3. Same with master chief.
Why does no one ever seem to question the necromorph at the beginning of the motion Comic? Was active weeks before the Marker or Corruption was encountered. Also, it stabs Vera through the shoulder but it's never even mentioned or alluded to.
@apstreamz because its a dream
@TheBritishRunner where is that mentioned? Had to rewatch the first part and it doesn't specify
@@apstreamz It's not mentioned but it's pretty obvious since no one mentions the creature after the event and it's what the marker does.
Can you do a lore video about the moon in the third Dead Space Isaac card on the moon the first play azzam my eyes are left the Moon did Humanity Stomp the Necromorph amperage on the moon right after he left can you make a video about that please
I am surprised they have not made a dead space movie it would be so scary and good live action movie
Have ya seen halo, have ya seen what they are doing to my boy. Nah I'm good atm there needs to be dedication involved to get a good horror movie of dead space.
A long time ago, John Carpenter actually tried to get a Dead Space movie in production, but it didn't work out.
Most we got is animations and some comics
Ight real talk for everyone, if you can become a necromorph which one would you be and why ?
(This also includes variations of said nercomorphs)
My friend said I would be a divider cause I'm very tall being at 6ft 9in. But if it were my decision regenerator can't die and scary looking as hell.
@@TheBritishRunner haha same id most likely want to be the ubermorph from DS2, id have the powers of a regenerator while looking like a humanoid hivemind
Twitchers or those stasis necromorphs
Unless you're fast can block them with objects or have a stasis module (which goes with first point anyhow) they can pretty much kill anything or anyone fast before they have time to draw their weapons or fire a 2nd shot as seen in DS1 amd DS3.
Imagine if this is what "becoming one with God" truly meant? Returning to Him once you die...😅
I thought Bretheren moons make black markers and shoot them out into space organics make red markers.
Not a fan of the bombastic intro tbh. The rest is as always great :)
If you think that's bombastic mate, go look at panzoid intros those are really bombastic Haha
Don't lie your just a vision form the maker
Make us whole drak kaos!
@@TheBritishRunner black hole here we come
Ik this is going to be a *very unpopular opinion* but once the people who are currently making the dead space remake is finally released and it becomes a smashing success hopefully they will create a Dead Space 2 remake and also bring back the multiplayer because for me personally I found it to be very underrated what they can do is add more players in a lobby and allow us to play as many other different necromorphs and hopefully a game mode or maps where there are several civilians in the chaos and maybe a boss hunt mode where 4 sprawl members are tasked to take out a necromorph boss or a marker and a game mode where you can play as a Ubermorph hunting down every last surviving human being able to call your several necromorph brothers and sisters to assist you being able to command them to flank to get the upper hand on earth gov to become a hive mind or maybe even a game mode or dlc where you play as a rogue necromorph that is resistant to the marker still having his/her human memories and despises the brethren moons and has only one goal to kill every last necromorph until the last one standing is itself and every necromorph it kills makes it become more powerful like a necromorph doom slayer
Stopped watching after the 5th ad in 8 min
Did you have to pay to watch the video?