@@00000ghcbs hello there. Uhmm this is kinda late.. Like 5 years late... But i still want to answer your question. He said that right the end of the game when everyone else was calling gg
Richard talkk Oh dear.. Ur English is so bad but ill explain to you . The sentece "ONCE YOU GO RAT, YOU NEVER GO BACK" Said Alliance team member- AdmiralBulldog. Rat means when you pick heroes who push really well #Naturepropthet and push the other lanes when the enemy isn't around #all5pushingonelane . This means you can't leave the base because the pusher #Naturepropthet can just rape you base..
1 of the best games of 2014, that's for sure. Who gives a flying courier if they won by RAT, the teamfights from this game, holy shit man so intense. Also, I completely changed my mind about C9, they really deserve respect there, what a great team.
How to counter rat dota : - Win the teamfights : not enough - TP to base and then stop the rat : got TP cancelled - Fortification : not enough - Attack the enemy throne : too late
that chrono in the end won them the game..temporarily,they cudve either backed off or killed the heroes within the chrono,i cant point fingers since theyre the pro players and they know what to do more than any of us,but sometimes they make it hard to be a C9 fan :(((
of all, i salute Bane at the end, in high tier, chances of getting 3 skills one to 3 different heroes is not easy..enfeeble on the damage dealer, nightmare on a disabler, and fiends grip on the softest hero..not easy..commended
4:15 That's why Loda's Legend,i dont like Alliance,i like Loda from Dota 1. -Terrorblade full item and beat all by Loda -First Diffusal Blade for Spectre by Loda -SF feed 6 times at mid by QOP - Vigoss and Loda owning late game.
Its all about the fanboyism of course. When its Alliance doing the rat, it sucks even though they give some of the best matches in dota2 history. When its a favorite team doing the rat, it gets praised so much. Sometimes I think the dota2 community is the most toxic community because of all these 50 IQ commenters.
So if you cant win a 5vs5 fight then you lose with honor and fight even if you know you are going to lose? thats the way you play DEFENSE OF THE ANCIENTS??? wow fanboys ur logic its awesome!
"At last we will reveal ourselves to the r[A]ts. At last we will have revenge." - Goblin Techies "You have been well trained my apprentice. They will be no match for you." - Valve
man. c9 really amazing team. hold the base how long they can and almost making a comeback. i was really hoping c9 would win dat game tho. such team very respect
The RAT strat is okay guys. I mean, when you look at the match, theyre split pushing every lane and C9 was defending perfectly. The goal of the game was to destroy the ancient and defend it, its not as important as a 5 v 5 battle, np could have teleport as well into the fight. The game was a fantastic game example of dota 2.
People getting so butthurt about rat dota. The fact of the matter is you dont get to decide if a strategy is "Fair" or not, it's a legitimate way to play the game and they won doing it, so it dosent come down to if C9 deserved to win (which they didn't) [A]lliance ACTUALLY WON.
Очень сильно все затянуто, на месте Синг-синга, ХВОСТ уже б давно рапиру купил, так как у них было всего два барака на всю базу. Это бы могло решить исход битвы.
На войда уже всем насрать, есть же фура, который крыса, ога. Булльдог хорошо играет на Фурионе, делает все то, что нужно делать, играя за этого героя. В чем дело? Если С9 настолько лоу скилловые, что Фуриона фокусить не могут, то это поражение для них вполне заслуженное. Причем проиграли они из-за своей же ошибки, хотя им все равно рано или поздно нужно было выходить из базы и пушить, тут по любому бы они проиграли. И еще, смотреть эту игру было намного интереснее, чем на "красивые замесы 5х5" после которых одна из команд пишет "gg".
Тебе на это интересней смотреть, из-за того, что ты болеешь за Альянс. Но болельщикам других команд (особенно не Клауд 9) блевать хочется от этого. И особенно меня порадовала фраза "Если С9 настолько лоу скилловые, что Фуриона фокусить не могут". Давай, расскажи мне, как фокусить фуру, если она пропушивает башню до того, как ты успеваешь подойти, и сразу же улетает на другой лайн/базу.
This wasn't really rat, C9 slipped up and alliance made a rush to the throne when they were down. They took their chance and won. Great job from both teams.
I really enjoyed this game, very tactical by both teams. I think that maybe the only mistake by C9 has been not trying to kill io + wk and np in that last chrono.. i don't know.. what you think guys?
ChristRonaldovip If they killed np and io they would have left only puck to relocate. Probably they would had enough time to destroy Alliance ancients, also beacause singsing coul have defended 1v1 against puck. Don't u think?
it was 2 vs 5 situation (enigma without a black hole was nothing) , singsing was occupied by the treant. Even if C9 tried to kill, they could only kill IO in those 3-4 sec chronosphere. Plus, pushing power of C9 was weaker than [A], so gg.
I really really really don't get the last Chrono part. There wasn't enough time to down the radiant tree and they chose not to touch alliance trapped heroes with such crazy aoe output. :'(
A really bad way to win, however Rat is also part of Dota and you gonna admit that is what make Dota so unique. If this is football, they win by penalty given from diving player.
the last fight, when C9 try to finish the game, Bone7 doesn't use manta...I don't understand why he saved it.. if he used that manta, with 2 illusions and their fcking unbelievable damage, it's could be different...
6 sloted Wraith king with reincarnation AND buyback? Nope, in this case you attack the throne.... No in fact you run away and hide, because he's coming for you ;)
Man, dota stands for "defense of the ancients" so it means you got to protect you fucking ancient, killing heroes wont lead you to victory. So what you calle rat dota is just a different strategy to get the work done. Dont ever forget that when you are losing a game and teamfights are looking so bad for your team, pushing will be the only hope
Cloud 9 could of won this game. Nature's prophet hexed the void which was followed up by wk wraithfire blast. The chain wasn't perfect and there was a window of opportunity for void to pop manta, negating the stun. Also puck has about 5 seconds left on his respawn at this time. With illusion damage and an extra 2 seconds of right click on the throne, he could then chrono once puck has respawned to guarantee more right click and that should be enough time to kill the ancient.
"ONCE YOU GO RAT , YOU NEVER GO BACK"- AdmiralBulldog 2014
***** lol when did he say that?
Ando Gombe Wut?
@@00000ghcbs hello there. Uhmm this is kinda late.. Like 5 years late... But i still want to answer your question. He said that right the end of the game when everyone else was calling gg
Probably why he never got back in the pro scene. Lol
" ONCE YOU GO RAT, YOU NEVER GO BACK"
John Sitompul And B[A]CK
dude whats its mean abaout once you rat , you never go back?
Richard talkk Oh dear.. Ur English is so bad but ill explain to you . The sentece "ONCE YOU GO RAT, YOU NEVER GO BACK" Said Alliance team member- AdmiralBulldog. Rat means when you pick heroes who push really well #Naturepropthet and push the other lanes when the enemy isn't around #all5pushingonelane . This means you can't leave the base because the pusher #Naturepropthet can just rape you base..
1 of the best games of 2014, that's for sure.
Who gives a flying courier if they won by RAT, the teamfights from this game, holy shit man so intense.
Also, I completely changed my mind about C9, they really deserve respect there, what a great team.
Copy paste much?
***** Let me guess from where he copied it...
***** It was my own comment....lol
Off Top Well someone is mad.....seriously mad, lost your rares?
***** Yes I know it is your comment, that is what attention seeking people do
Кто дает летающую курьера, если они выиграли RAT, что teamfights от этой игры, святой дерьмо человек настолько интенсивным
"Once you rat. U never go back". - Bulldog
+Milky Way I actually won against ratter. So I said this ''Once you rat. U will get rekt.''
Alliance vs EG on Starladder was a very close game, similar to this one
Alliance did not go for a rat strat on that one, but hell, it was so tight
Furion Wisp not rat? Whut?
are u fucking blind?
Marshall Madness I should ask you the same thing
"...Alliance vs EG on Starladder was..."
I was talking about other game, you blind piece of shit
aygecko wowwowow calm the fuck down
"Once u got rat u never go back" - AdmiralBulldog
How to counter rat dota :
- Win the teamfights : not enough
- TP to base and then stop the rat : got TP cancelled
- Fortification : not enough
- Attack the enemy throne : too late
that chrono in the end won them the game..temporarily,they cudve either backed off or killed the heroes within the chrono,i cant point fingers since theyre the pro players and they know what to do more than any of us,but sometimes they make it hard to be a C9 fan :(((
[ ] No Rat
[ ] Rat
[X] SUPER MEGA ULTRA RAT
of all, i salute Bane at the end, in high tier, chances of getting 3 skills one to 3 different heroes is not easy..enfeeble on the damage dealer, nightmare on a disabler, and fiends grip on the softest hero..not easy..commended
if some other team Splitpushes to victory, no one will say or whine about it ..
This is so much better than fucking fifa world cup OMG
riiiiiiiiiiiight
ONCE YOU GO RAT
U NEVER GO BACK
4:15 That's why Loda's Legend,i dont like Alliance,i like Loda from Dota 1.
-Terrorblade full item and beat all by Loda
-First Diffusal Blade for Spectre by Loda
-SF feed 6 times at mid by QOP - Vigoss and Loda owning late game.
ONCE YOU GOT RAT , U NEVER GO BACK
How is this in my recommendations 2022?
hahaha i love bulldog, he admits and he is proud of how he play... wow good game and mvp for bulldog for sure
That was kinda BM i think.
+K. “Stoppos” Péter After the interview the day beforehand that EE did... BM is worth it...
Really awesome commentary from Kappitalist and Merlini!!
Its all about the fanboyism of course. When its Alliance doing the rat, it sucks even though they give some of the best matches in dota2 history. When its a favorite team doing the rat, it gets praised so much. Sometimes I think the dota2 community is the most toxic community because of all these 50 IQ commenters.
+1 so right
+samme79 u got it damn right bro
+samme79 true.. true.. true..
So if you cant win a 5vs5 fight then you lose with honor and fight even if you know you are going to lose? thats the way you play DEFENSE OF THE ANCIENTS??? wow fanboys ur logic its awesome!
nice english m8, read it al 8/8
Vile Insect yeah i know, eng its not my mother lenguage, but you get it anyway!
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IdeaShoveIt! " resultados de la busqueda " jaja
Jorge Juarez se me fue c:
Yes, look how far we've come
No wonder that announcer sounded like that. He had been casting that game for 80 minutes.
"Kills means nothing, throne means everything!" - Tobiwan
That double remnant swoop from Sing looks so sick :D
The goal is wining no epic battles.
-Dark Seer
NoobFromUA, u really love to show the twitch chat burst ^_^
"At last we will reveal ourselves to the r[A]ts. At last we will have revenge." - Goblin Techies
"You have been well trained my apprentice. They will be no match for you." - Valve
the face of EE at the end....
priceless
Your 50 mbps internet sure pays off D:
Не существует такого понятия, как "Rat Dota". Не умеете играть против Фуриона - не нойте.
Once you go rat u never go back.
- AdmiralBulldog
Quote of the day
2:16 aaand reason they lost match.
he should have attacked king and prophet inside chrono.
''Once you go rat , you never go back"
When everyone is busy. The rat attacks.
i miss the days when icefrog used to go to events .
Once you go rat, you never go back. ( [A]dmiralBulldog )
man. c9 really amazing team. hold the base how long they can and almost making a comeback. i was really hoping c9 would win dat game tho. such team very respect
''Kills mean Nothing Throne means EVERYTHING''
you got to love how Loda extended his hand to EEsama. and ended up patting EEsama on the back. RAT dota or not Alliance is back
EE-sama :(
The RAT strat is okay guys. I mean, when you look at the match, theyre split pushing every lane and C9 was defending perfectly. The goal of the game was to destroy the ancient and defend it, its not as important as a 5 v 5 battle, np could have teleport as well into the fight. The game was a fantastic game example of dota 2.
what is "rat dota"?
People getting so butthurt about rat dota. The fact of the matter is you dont get to decide if a strategy is "Fair" or not, it's a legitimate way to play the game and they won doing it, so it dosent come down to if C9 deserved to win (which they didn't) [A]lliance ACTUALLY WON.
no one cant stop [A]lliance's r[A]t dot[A]
how do you lose a game with faceless void on you team?
What is rat dota?
''ONCE YOU GO RAT YOU NEVER GO BACK'' - BULLDONG
What is the match ID please? :D I wanna watch it, can I watch it for free in Dota 2?
most epic win against 2 most op heroes in the game (ember & void)
Once you go RAT, You never go BACK!
Очень сильно все затянуто, на месте Синг-синга, ХВОСТ уже б давно рапиру купил, так как у них было всего два барака на всю базу. Это бы могло решить исход битвы.
ee cried this game... never forget
trixter723 ee was salty as fuck.
If enemy picked Prophet, you should pick Treant Protector+2 counterpush heroes. And it would be great, if you pick heroes to gank at early game.
На войда уже всем насрать, есть же фура, который крыса, ога.
Булльдог хорошо играет на Фурионе, делает все то, что нужно делать, играя за этого героя. В чем дело? Если С9 настолько лоу скилловые, что Фуриона фокусить не могут, то это поражение для них вполне заслуженное.
Причем проиграли они из-за своей же ошибки, хотя им все равно рано или поздно нужно было выходить из базы и пушить, тут по любому бы они проиграли.
И еще, смотреть эту игру было намного интереснее, чем на "красивые замесы 5х5" после которых одна из команд пишет "gg".
Тебе на это интересней смотреть, из-за того, что ты болеешь за Альянс. Но болельщикам других команд (особенно не Клауд 9) блевать хочется от этого. И особенно меня порадовала фраза "Если С9 настолько лоу скилловые, что Фуриона фокусить не могут". Давай, расскажи мне, как фокусить фуру, если она пропушивает башню до того, как ты успеваешь подойти, и сразу же улетает на другой лайн/базу.
EE emotional boys
This wasn't really rat, C9 slipped up and alliance made a rush to the throne when they were down. They took their chance and won. Great job from both teams.
GG Admiral Bulldog epic pushing skills :)
I really enjoyed this game, very tactical by both teams. I think that maybe the only mistake by C9 has been not trying to kill io + wk and np in that last chrono.. i don't know.. what you think guys?
not enough, even if they were trying to kill, they could only kill 1 hero and the rest of Alliance can counter-rat back
ChristRonaldovip If they killed np and io they would have left only puck to relocate. Probably they would had enough time to destroy Alliance ancients, also beacause singsing coul have defended 1v1 against puck. Don't u think?
it was 2 vs 5 situation (enigma without a black hole was nothing) , singsing was occupied by the treant. Even if C9 tried to kill, they could only kill IO in those 3-4 sec chronosphere. Plus, pushing power of C9 was weaker than [A], so gg.
io and np has BB
I really really really don't get the last Chrono part. There wasn't enough time to down the radiant tree and they chose not to touch alliance trapped heroes with such crazy aoe output. :'(
I think that playing RAT style has nothing wrong with it, it's a playstyle and you have to learn how to counter it.
idk why the fck people find rat dota boring.. it's actually exciting and so enjoyable to watch... someone explain.. PLS
i love how allince jus patted ee n singsing like they new there pain :')\
one u go rat , u never go back -bulldog what a player
EternalEnvy really knows how to show his eternal envy.. :D
Rat gaming is a kind of Art . Ti3 /A\ introduced rat and ti4 they introduced something but it's failed :(
Admiral rat??,Ratbullgod?
lol shout out to bulldog, 'once you go rat, u never go back'
songsong vs donger wows
ONCE YOU GO RAT, YOU NEVER GO BACK! KAPPA
Once you go rat, you don't go back!
match ID? anyone?
its free to watch. check tournaments in the watch section, esl, alliance vs c9
Capitalist best caster ever.
A really bad way to win, however Rat is also part of Dota and you gonna admit that is what make Dota so unique. If this is football, they win by penalty given from diving player.
Rat takes the thrill out of it.
that was EPIC! nothing more to say
EE-sama became EE-sadman. :(
the last fight, when C9 try to finish the game, Bone7 doesn't use manta...I don't understand why he saved it.. if he used that manta, with 2 illusions and their fcking unbelievable damage, it's could be different...
SINGSING and EE did not even shake hands with the winning team... LOL
an interview before that match EE said to the guy "shoutout to my team and alliance which I will defeat today" and well, lost.
3:37 is that miracle?
That chrono on ancient ended bon7's career
EE-sama looks so sad that he's going to cry :
Envy looks so sad at the end lmao
imagine now bulldog play with megacuck and get stomping by archon
Void used chrono and attacked the throne? He shouldve focused on the heroes more.
6 sloted Wraith king with reincarnation AND buyback? Nope, in this case you attack the throne.... No in fact you run away and hide, because he's coming for you ;)
"And while everything is happening, Bulldog is taking raxes!" Part 2... Facepalm
Once you go rat you never go back said AdmiralBulldog 2014
who's watching this in 2017?
Man, dota stands for "defense of the ancients" so it means you got to protect you fucking ancient, killing heroes wont lead you to victory. So what you calle rat dota is just a different strategy to get the work done. Dont ever forget that when you are losing a game and teamfights are looking so bad for your team, pushing will be the only hope
kills means nothing,throne means everything!
R [A] T B O Y S
EternalEnvy at the end lol XD
3:20 let me take a selfi :v
Rat will survive because is intelligent and resistant.
войд за 83 минуты не нафрамил 6 слотов
OMG WHAT AN EPIC GAME !!! i'll have to WATCH IT !
2016 boys
Grown up men forced to comment on a video game... Tragic...
R[A]T MORE FUCKING ALLIANCE
I'd feel upset too if FV Chronoed to destroy Ancient rather than the heroes left.
That basically ended the match.
Cloud 9 could of won this game. Nature's prophet hexed the void which was followed up by wk wraithfire blast. The chain wasn't perfect and there was a window of opportunity for void to pop manta, negating the stun. Also puck has about 5 seconds left on his respawn at this time. With illusion damage and an extra 2 seconds of right click on the throne, he could then chrono once puck has respawned to guarantee more right click and that should be enough time to kill the ancient.
they won is not bcz the RAT.
its bcz EE was there
EE dead -> EE buyback -> EE kill bulldog -> so bulldog can buyback -> bulldog destroy mid rack