Hearing how rough the demos are should be encouraging to other songwriters. It shows how much can be done by following the initial inspiration and putting in the work.
'If I Fell', it's a perfect example to show how progressive elaboration works, a concept in project management, layer by layer, so to speak. Any idea we have, just TA (take action), and as there's a time for everything, time will bring new ideas to turn whatever it is into a/'our' masterpiece, if it's meant to be.
Yes, I hear it.. Good ear! It must have been something he picked up from another vocalist consciously or not. It happens a lot with vocal 'fills'.. especially in soul music I've noticed. They're more regular in soul I guess which is probably why? With Michael Jackson you can hear Stevie Wonder's fills. I've heard others repeat Al Green, Marvin Gaye, Aretha etc.. can't think who off the top of my head though. If you go back through John's influences I bet that little riff is in there somewhere at the end of a phrase in a song he liked.
@@ulricvoncatalyst1507 Good call.. I think you've nailed it. The evolution of an uh-oh into a you-hoo-oh. Now let's figure out where Buddy Holly got it from😆
24:49 The very outro guitar from 'The End' - not the solo's - but after the lyric '...love you make'. They had all these musical nuggets in them already.
What a lot of you dont comprehend is that these were mostly done on their own reel to reel tape machines or cassette recorders in their own homes...hence the demo titles...most were not done in the studio like other rarity tapes. These are fleshing out ideas. By the time they got them to the studio they were mostly worked out.
The instrumental guitar noodling is a revelation. There early records on electric guitars had more simple phrasings. But they were capable of much more which showed up in their later albums. The phrasings from Rubber Soul to Get Back and Abbey Road had their origins in this jamming and noodling. Just great. Deepens the understanding of their instrument skills as well as their songwriting processes.
Thank you for sharing these early sketches. Some (like "If I fell") send a shiver down the spine. The development of "Don't bother me" is quite a revelation too, if you're into the nuts and bolts of songwriting (I am).
Oh man what a hidden gem! I love John’s early songs when he would write honestly about love. John always knew how to write silly love songs just as well as Paul. Not sure if he grew tired of them but I always thought they were great
It’s actually just a half-step higher than the final version (the tape is possibly sped up slightly-which would also make John’s voice squeakier) But those are virtually the notes Paul sings, while John sings a lower harmony. Strange but true.
Hard to criticize the Beatles in any way, shape or form, and I've heard other people say, I'm sure glad they learned how to tune those guitars in the later days. Paul's early version of Michelle guitar sure doesn't sound in tune to me! Still love it, thanks so much for posting this.
😮 "Good Morning..." makes me think of some incidental music from "The Prisoner" when "the general" hypnotises everybody in the village... Anyway, this song always made me think about the Prisoner... Be seeing you!
Siempre me pregunte como salen a la luz este tipo de grabaciones. Soy un enfermo de la banda y siempre hay material que encuentro nuevo. Las versiones de If I Fell son mis favoritas, pero todo el material es excelente. Gracias por subirlo!
80% or even more of the Beatles' songs are folk songs at their birth then the production. I had never heard she said she said in this way but it's no surprise.
@@johnmc3862 I've been listening to that song since 1964. YOU'RE the one who should listen to it. When he sings, "...cause I couldn't stand the pain...!" He's singing about a hypothetical situation in which he would feel pain and he "would be sad if our new love, was in vain." He's NOT singing about pain or sadness he feels. He mentions pain and sadness he would feel if the situation were different than what he's hoping for. The whole song is about someone asking another person if they would hurt him if he fell in love with them. It is NOT about being hurt.
surprised that they never released, or even recorded, One and One is Two, it was pretty complete and not completely out of character for them at the time.
I’m willing to assume that’s because it wasn’t as strong as the other songs that did make the cut at the time You know, they usually had that filter to include just the songs that were the strongest according to them… at least most of the time 🤔
@@wolferthehawkeye Absolutely. But sometimes I disagree with their choices. There are songs like India that should have been included on the White Album but was passed over. I believe they should have included that one.
Could have been given to one of the many sucker bands like BJ Kramer Dakotas. Their standards was high & vinyl was limited in length then. By end of the 60s you could have 60mins on vinyl by squeezing tracks.
Shows you what a great producer and good production values do fo a song. Also given the time to flesh it out and "Presto" ya got a hit record. It's a magic....
So you're saying they were crap before George Martin, based on some old "demo" recordings? Yeah too bad they couldn''t make it on the live stage... Oh wait. I guess you are totally wrong.
I didn't think John started the fingerpicking thing before being taught how by Donovan in Rishikesh. That version of She Said, She Said puts the lie to that theory
Good spot. It's kind of a half strumming with some fingerpicking thrown in but not done very well. Sounds like a beginner. This demo would be 1966 in California after the tripping episode with Peter Fonda. It does sound a bit Byrds-ish and mid 60's West Coast influenced. Even on 'Julia' from late 67 (recorded 68) he still sounds like he's getting to grips with it. Not a great technician obviously but I really like him as a guitarist. His rhythm stuff from the touring years goes under the radar but is very solid and more interesting than people give it credit for.
@@nicknewman7848 John had one of the best right hands in the business. Played correctly with his fingers wrapped under so he had power and his wrist was like butter.
Georges recording of Don't bother me right about brought me to smash my laptop out ngl. As his whistling reminds me of his video of him way older playing the ukulele and him saying "oh- I can whistle!"- He sounded so happy bro no. It makes me sad rlly. But he improved so much and to see he's glad about that was precious. It is nice to have an insight on something that happened so damn long ago- Like 1963- that was when my grandpa was living his childhood- and I am listening to something that was recorded then. The magic of older music I swear, it gives me nostalgia of when I was not even born then.
I'm not certain who's playing those early instrumentals(I'm guessing Paul) ,but, instrumental #2 has some similarities to Paul's instrumental, "Long Tail Winter Bird" from his McCartney III album. Always wished Paul had recorded and released his own renditions of "World Without Love", "Woman", "Goodbye", and "Come and Get It".
Fascinating to witness their process. This reminds me of an early interview I heard with Pete Townsend; he was basically trashing the Beatles and said words to the effect, "Believe me man, I've heard their demos and they're bloody awful!"
I may be crazy but when I hear pre 66 Beatles I think of being at a small Mom and Pop Cafe ,drinking a 10 oz coke and smelling the Old Fashioned Burgers in the air. I barely caught that being born in 66.
Wow, some of these are awful, like something I'd throw away as not good enough. But that's the genious of the Beatles. They were real artists and craftsman, turning some of these into timeless classics.
One and One is Two was recorded by The Strangers with Mike Shannon on the Philips label in 1964. It sank without trace, which along with Tommy Quickly's Tip of My Tongue, were not the best of the Lennon/McCartney catalogue. Throw in What Goes On as well as that should have been left off Rubber Soul.
All you need is a few chords then rpt verse chorus verse middle & a good production team that create a full blooded song on vinyl. Every Beatles song bar Yesterday needed these people in white coats.
I read on other links that "Michelle" -- *this* particular audio clip is fake. Can anyone verify its source that it is real, and not just something that was taken from some other "fake" link?
Obviously xD, for example it was known that the supposed demo we can work it out is false, it is actually a version that Paul sang for the 80s, but at least I gave myself the task of looking for the material that if it is confirmed
strawberry fields sometimes sounds like a horror film in this demo as it clearly has either degraded a ton or wasn't recorded well to begin with that particular demo
Looks like Bob Wooler on Paul's right? I had this tape...and I could hear it wasn't the Beatles on most tracks. ....but was on others. I thought the claims on the sleeve that they were lennon and McCartney songs were lies. It's been years...and I've thrown the tape too....but the odd songs like one and one is two were much better, full finished performances than these....shame.
I felt like I was cheering on George, knowing where it should go and hearing him be just so close!
Hearing how rough the demos are should be encouraging to other songwriters. It shows how much can be done by following the initial inspiration and putting in the work.
And the use of collaborators and producers/technicians.
It's fascinating to hear their creative process just as it was occurring to them.
Hearing George in 1963 and in 7 years (and less) he would record all things must pass, a triple album!
Well, a great double album and an okay jam session.
that's just bewildering to think about
@@michaelharrington75 a great jam session album, i suggest you go back and listen with headphones
'If I Fell', it's a perfect example to show how progressive elaboration works, a concept in project management, layer by layer, so to speak. Any idea we have, just TA (take action), and as there's a time for everything, time will bring new ideas to turn whatever it is into a/'our' masterpiece, if it's meant to be.
In John’s demo of ‘If I Fell’ you can hear the rise & falling ‘ha-ha’ motif he later used in ‘Imagine’
Yes, I hear it.. Good ear! It must have been something he picked up from another vocalist consciously or not. It happens a lot with vocal 'fills'.. especially in soul music I've noticed. They're more regular in soul I guess which is probably why? With Michael Jackson you can hear Stevie Wonder's fills. I've heard others repeat Al Green, Marvin Gaye, Aretha etc.. can't think who off the top of my head though. If you go back through John's influences I bet that little riff is in there somewhere at the end of a phrase in a song he liked.
@@nicknewman7848 Sounds like a straight lift from Buddy Holly to me
@@ulricvoncatalyst1507 Good call.. I think you've nailed it. The evolution of an uh-oh into a you-hoo-oh. Now let's figure out where Buddy Holly got it from😆
You spot it ... I'm about to say it too
24:49 The very outro guitar from 'The End' - not the solo's - but after the lyric '...love you make'. They had all these musical nuggets in them already.
What a lot of you dont comprehend is that these were mostly done on their own reel to reel tape machines or cassette recorders in their own homes...hence the demo titles...most were not done in the studio like other rarity tapes. These are fleshing out ideas. By the time they got them to the studio they were mostly worked out.
..I mean... lots of people do that. Rivers Cuomo recorded 8 track tapes and Brian Wilson must have used a tape recorder as well
I think most everyone comprehends that.
If it shows promise even as a very low quality recording ,you know you have something worth working on ...
Hearing George in the middle of writing his first song to appear on a Beatles record is magic.
He is such an incredible guitarist, what style he had in 1963!
Yes a real eye opener to hear these familiar songs in such different forms.
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The instrumental guitar noodling is a revelation. There early records on electric guitars had more simple phrasings. But they were capable of much more which showed up in their later albums. The phrasings from Rubber Soul to Get Back and Abbey Road had their origins in this jamming and noodling. Just great. Deepens the understanding of their instrument skills as well as their songwriting processes.
１９８３年に東京の高田馬場にできたビートルズ専門店【GETBACK】で初めてbootlegを買ってから、かなりの非公式音源も聴いてきましたが、これらの音源は初めて聴きました！！ビートルズは本当に奥が深いです！！🥰
Lennon is pure genius. If I Fell and Good Morning early versions are incredible.
Thank you for sharing these early sketches. Some (like "If I fell") send a shiver down the spine. The development of "Don't bother me" is quite a revelation too, if you're into the nuts and bolts of songwriting (I am).
Wow,, the actual creation of Don't Bother Me,,,
Dont Bother Me is one of my favorite Beatle songs of all time. To hear it in its infancy is amazing...surreal. Thanks!
The beauty of simplicity.
Wow, working on Michelle even before Ed Sullivan Show!
Michelle's origins are from John's art school days. Paul would pretend to be french at parties for attention from the girls. 🎉
@@turtleparent73s
Or something like that
Even in the demos is noticeble how great singer Paul is. A natural born crooner.
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Man you know how hard it was to get a hold of these 30-40 yers ago??
Really rough, really raw and really great.
Really like John on the lead part for If I Fell, also an extra high bit that ended up being on Imagine!
Oh man what a hidden gem! I love John’s early songs when he would write honestly about love. John always knew how to write silly love songs just as well as Paul. Not sure if he grew tired of them but I always thought they were great
@@aidenhayward1Silly songs?'If I fell' is one of the best songs ever wrote.
the boots go deep. thanks for putting this together, but...not too sure how often I'll return to listen. in my bookmarks, so you accomplished that.
This was/is a great find for me! Thank You For Posting. 💥❤️🌹🙏
And i thought id heard everything! Thanks for this
Glad they found a singable key for John for 'If I Fell' instead of the Tiny Tim on the Ukulele version.
It’s actually just a half-step higher than the final version (the tape is possibly sped up slightly-which would also make John’s voice squeakier) But those are virtually the notes Paul sings, while John sings a lower harmony. Strange but true.
4:25 minutes ir seema like the first chords of Michelle!! The Beatles forever!! Greetings from argentine!!
Saludos!
I got the same "Michelle" feel too !
It's definitely Michelle. Paul had been playing the tune since before they became famous.
You literally made my life greater with this, thanks a lot buddy
Hard to criticize the Beatles in any way, shape or form, and I've heard other people say, I'm sure glad they learned how to tune those guitars in the later days. Paul's early version of Michelle guitar sure doesn't sound in tune to me! Still love it, thanks so much for posting this.
If I fell ... It's amazing!
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Eita!
This little instrumental jam by The Beatles sounds like mine with my bands,although I only heard their instrumental jams now on this "tape".
😮 "Good Morning..." makes me think of some incidental music from "The Prisoner" when "the general" hypnotises everybody in the village... Anyway, this song always made me think about the Prisoner...
Be seeing you!
Fantastical! Take away: Don't give up!
Wonderful songs just beginning to blossom into the finished product! Really love it so thanks so much!
Always a treat!
Thank you so much for this collection ~~music is really alive in these demos !!
Siempre me pregunte como salen a la luz este tipo de grabaciones. Soy un enfermo de la banda y siempre hay material que encuentro nuevo. Las versiones de If I Fell son mis favoritas, pero todo el material es excelente. Gracias por subirlo!
80% or even more of the Beatles' songs are folk songs at their birth then the production. I had never heard she said she said in this way but it's no surprise.
And sea shanties in construction
Really cool, please more of this Demo's
Vocal on If I Fell was brilliant from the beginning.
I just harmonized with John that I learned 57 years ago .
'Really takes me back...
Thank you this is precious
The hurt really comes through John in "If I Fell."
Hurt? What? The song has nothing to do with being hurt. It doesn't even hint at that.
@@mrfester42It literally says 'I couldn't stand the pain', did you actually listen to it!! 🙄
@@johnmc3862 I've been listening to that song since 1964. YOU'RE the one who should listen to it.
When he sings, "...cause I couldn't stand the pain...!" He's singing about a hypothetical situation in which he would feel pain and he "would be sad if our new love, was in vain." He's NOT singing about pain or sadness he feels. He mentions pain and sadness he would feel if the situation were different than what he's hoping for.
The whole song is about someone asking another person if they would hurt him if he fell in love with them. It is NOT about being hurt.
Hold On I'm Coming is a new one to me.
surprised that they never released, or even recorded, One and One is Two, it was pretty complete and not completely out of character for them at the time.
I’m willing to assume that’s because it wasn’t as strong as the other songs that did make the cut at the time
You know, they usually had that filter to include just the songs that were the strongest according to them… at least most of the time 🤔
@@wolferthehawkeye Absolutely. But sometimes I disagree with their choices. There are songs like India that should have been included on the White Album but was passed over. I believe they should have included that one.
At least Lennon referenced the song in the verse about Paul in “come together”!
What is "India" and when did John reference it in " Come Together?"
Could have been given to one of the many sucker bands like BJ Kramer Dakotas. Their standards was high & vinyl was limited in length then. By end of the 60s you could have 60mins on vinyl by squeezing tracks.
WOW! the kitchen of wonders
She said... The Begining😊!
“Hold on, im coming”
John lol. Would have been hilarious if it got made.
#1 is very reminiscent of the Till There Was You Solo
The guitar on Hold on, I'm coming sounds very similar to A Day in The Life
Was thinking the same thing. Was waiting for the Em to hit the Em7 and it never did :)
Was about to say the same..
I heard a little ticket to ride in the end!😊
Similar.
I thought that this is a Sam & Dave cover
Would like to hear more or all of What Goes On, if there is more of it.
The full version exists as an acetate but the sod who has the copy hasn’t released it
Shows you what a great producer and good production values do fo a song. Also given the time to flesh it out and "Presto" ya got a hit record. It's a magic....
So you're saying they were crap before George Martin, based on some old "demo" recordings? Yeah too bad they couldn''t make it on the live stage... Oh wait. I guess you are totally wrong.
@@pcatful That’s not what was said. Sheesh!
Thanks so much for sharing
Grazie mille per il video 😊
The greatest mystery of all is how this has not been blocked worldwide.
le génie au travail ¡ une merveille
I love World without love. They should have recorded it as their own.
I always thought so as well.
They did record it, they just never released it. It's available on youtube.
John didn't like the opening line "Please lock me away..." If they had recorded it, Paul might have regretted it during his Tokyo incarceration.
@@paulsullivan1650 The Beatles never recorded "One and One is Two" in the studio
I didn't think John started the fingerpicking thing before being taught how by Donovan in Rishikesh. That version of She Said, She Said puts the lie to that theory
Good spot. It's kind of a half strumming with some fingerpicking thrown in but not done very well. Sounds like a beginner. This demo would be 1966 in California after the tripping episode with Peter Fonda. It does sound a bit Byrds-ish and mid 60's West Coast influenced. Even on 'Julia' from late 67 (recorded 68) he still sounds like he's getting to grips with it. Not a great technician obviously but I really like him as a guitarist. His rhythm stuff from the touring years goes under the radar but is very solid and more interesting than people give it credit for.
@@nicknewman7848 John had one of the best right hands in the business. Played correctly with his fingers wrapped under so he had power and his wrist was like butter.
It's a lot of made up history, man. Trust me. Minds would be blown.
Georges recording of Don't bother me right about brought me to smash my laptop out ngl.
As his whistling reminds me of his video of him way older playing the ukulele and him saying "oh- I can whistle!"- He sounded so happy bro no.
It makes me sad rlly. But he improved so much and to see he's glad about that was precious. It is nice to have an insight on something that happened so damn long ago-
Like 1963- that was when my grandpa was living his childhood- and I am listening to something that was recorded then. The magic of older music I swear, it gives me nostalgia of when I was not even born then.
8:14 i love this demo so much i’m sad he never released it
The start of Instrumental #2 sounds like an early Polythene Pam
fascinating.
Good morning is so good. Way better composition than the Peppers version
It makes me see how people missed them. They didn't get them... yet.
So interesting hearing these demos. the only band these days that reminds me of The beatles is a band called the Doublejumps
Not all of George's early songs were good , but DONT BOTHER ME seemed to capture his downbeat broody side . The basic riff is good too .
I don't know why Don't Bother Me is slept on so much. It's a good creative tune, better than some of what McCartney Lennon were doing
It wasn't his "downbeat broody side" as you call it that you're hearing. It's his sick in bed side. He was sick and laid up in bed when he wrote it.
I'm not certain who's playing those early instrumentals(I'm guessing Paul) ,but, instrumental #2 has some similarities to Paul's instrumental, "Long Tail Winter Bird" from his McCartney III album. Always wished Paul had recorded and released his own renditions of "World Without Love", "Woman", "Goodbye", and "Come and Get It".
George played a short snippet sounding like the opening of Here Comes The Sun 24:54
Fascinating to witness their process. This reminds me of an early interview I heard with Pete Townsend; he was basically trashing the Beatles and said words to the effect, "Believe me man, I've heard their demos and they're bloody awful!"
Sad and jealous man, said awful things about Led Zeppelin when they were starting out too.
Instrumental #1 sounds like working out melody for michelle
WOW!
Instrumental #2 is mac demarco vibes 🐄💥
I may be crazy but when I hear pre 66 Beatles I think of being at a small Mom and Pop Cafe ,drinking a 10 oz coke and smelling the Old Fashioned Burgers in the air. I barely caught that being born in 66.
George Harrison sounds like Ennio Morricone in Don´T Bother Me.
"Hold on coming" reminds "Mind games together"...
Anyone know who's on guitar in Instrumentals 1 &2? I'm guessing Paul, the style has more abandon in the playing than George's.
It's Paul
Is Paul playing with his feet on those early demos?
Wow, some of these are awful, like something I'd throw away as not good enough. But that's the genious of the Beatles. They were real artists and craftsman, turning some of these into timeless classics.
Is that a cat I hear at 23:06?
oww yea
One and One is Two was recorded by The Strangers with Mike Shannon on the Philips label in 1964. It sank without trace, which along with Tommy Quickly's Tip of My Tongue, were not the best of the Lennon/McCartney catalogue. Throw in What Goes On as well as that should have been left off Rubber Soul.
Es bellisima esta melodía 15:56 se llego a grabar alguna vez con los beatles ?
Nunca la grabaron, aunque los acordes se parecen a A Day In The Life
Maravilloso!
If I Fell almost sounds like Tony Williams of the Platters
All you need is a few chords then rpt verse chorus verse middle & a good production team that create a full blooded song on vinyl. Every Beatles song bar Yesterday needed these people in white coats.
Michelle in 1963
MICHELE, I BELIEVE IN 1965
I read on other links that "Michelle" -- *this* particular audio clip is fake. Can anyone verify its source that it is real, and not just something that was taken from some other "fake" link?
So far there is no answer, at the moment it seems to be real, but in the future it will probably be resolved
It's not a fake. This demo came from Alf Bicknell's collection, who was the driver for The Beatles.
5:39
Lot's of jazzy chords they usually didn't play on their records.
Don't bother me... even better chords then in the final recording...a bit Not Guilty harmonics
My fav demo is bad 2 me
Is for yu
Isso é de verdade mesmo?
Obviously xD, for example it was known that the supposed demo we can work it out is false, it is actually a version that Paul sang for the 80s, but at least I gave myself the task of looking for the material that if it is confirmed
strawberry fields sometimes sounds like a horror film in this demo as it clearly has either degraded a ton or wasn't recorded well to begin with that particular demo
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Lennon sounds like a granny on If I Fell 😂 nevertheless great
Sounds like they purchased their guitars at Sears.
Who’s to say those instrumentals are the Beatles? Sounds like me in my bedroom in ninth grade.
It's because, the instrumentals were recorded on the same day as Michelle's 1963 demo.
They are a Tavistock creation.
A Tavistock creation !😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@dannycrotch5188
People like you always fall off the edge of the earth 😂
Who plays guitar on the instrumentals?
Paul
Hold on im coming strumming sounds an awful lot like early day in the life.
Great to hear this, thanks! Who is singing on Eleanor Rigby? Not Paul (or Ringo) sounds almost like George? or John??
It's paul
@@thebeatlesraretracks3969 thanks
Clearly Paul singing!
Def paul
Looks like Bob Wooler on Paul's right?
I had this tape...and I could hear it wasn't the Beatles on most tracks.
....but was on others.
I thought the claims on the sleeve that they were lennon and McCartney songs were lies.
It's been years...and I've thrown the tape too....but the odd songs like one and one is two were much better, full finished performances than these....shame.
YES! BOB WOOLER