exactly and it seem they didn't listen to the whole Drake review from the last episode and they just gave an opinion on a small segment, they not accurate at the breakfast club again and they not agreeing or disagreeing 🤦🏽♂️
And drake got “sassy” with Joe because he’s a roach in drake’s world. N u gotta step on roaches sometimes. He tried the spray.. he tried ignoring him completely.. but Media Joe like roaches will always be around. Plus more controversy equals more publicity.. also it takes the focus off the music now all drake gotta do is make a fire diss to a roach n change the temperature
Budden also nuked him multiple times in entire song diss tracks directed at drake several years back. Drakes a fucking new age hack. Guy couldn't touch the greats with a 1000 foot pole
@@TheDifferenceCHIthat roach raided drake so bad several years back in his multiple diss tracks to drake, that after that ass whopping and pusha ts, he ain't been the same since. Drake will get bullied and eaten alive by any real mc.
The fact that Drake responded like that lets you know what Budden said is the truth and struck a nerve. Way more accomplished MC's like Jay-Z, Nas, etc have been critiqued and they didn't respond like this. Drake is 16 going 36. Meanwhile Kendrick and Cole are making age appropriate music. 😅😅😅
@@thecunninlynguistEminem had a business relationship with Joe that went south because of Joe and he wanted to blame Eminem for his issues. They aren’t the same at all. Joe was and is biting the hands that could and did feed him. Don’t forget that Glasshouse album still could be put out but Joe was such a dick to Eminem about Revival he ruined y of that! Not the same at all. As a matter of fact I think Eminem held back a great deal about how he feels about Joe and can speak from a place that Drake can’t about Joe. Don’t forget that Joe was totally happy to screw Slaughterhouse’s contract with Eminem and Shady over his petty issues and the rest of the crew wasn’t down for that!
@@highd12 I'm aware of self destructive Joe's issues with shady. But em still took what Joe said to heart. Joe wasn't even thr first. Em takes all critics opinions to heart.
@@thecunninlynguist because Joe shouldn’t have said what he said Eminem was it using black issues to sell revival that is the issue that Eminem has with Joe. Joe acts like Eminem is up in a tower with his millions feeding off of black issues, when it’s been part of Eminem’s life to bring attention to all forms of injustice in the black community since he dropped. It was deeper than what Drake has going on with Joe and I don’t see them as the same here at all.
Joe didn’t even say nothing bad and the fact he praised him for 20 mins before giving criticism. Plus it’s true. Drake sound like he dumbing himself down to appear to kids and the quality is not where it used to be.
That's what the people want ..Kanye told y'all listen to the kids a few years ago and they did lol 😂 now y'all mad ? It's the people fault for what rap is today and that's facts
No it’s the fact that someone so irrelevant has something to say all the time, this is equivalent to your childhood doctor making comments on where you are in life right now, it wouldn’t make much sense for them to do it but if he or she did it would be so irrelevant
@@blove88in content maybe your right. But in terms of music he’s the one that’s involved the MOST. He’s evolved with the times. Cole and Kendrick sound like traditional rap, and rap fans like that
oh he cares. That's why he responded. The age/content comment hurt his soul. Cause it's true. Pretty soon he'll look like the fool at 40 trying to cater to the 30 under crowd.
@@themondoshownot true, love will always outweigh the hate. Why do you think he so successful, with sold out shows and selling a bunch of albums, that’s not from hate
Just like Nicki! Drake, Nicki, and Lil Wayne all rap the same and share writers. Drake was born and raised in a white middle-class neighborhood. His only struggle was not fitting in, just like Nicki Minaj. Her dad was on crack, but they still owned a home, and she went to excellent schools. Lil Wayne was born in a middle-class neighborhood he chose to run the streets and hang around thugs! They don’t qualify as American Rappers and Hip Hop Artists because true Rap/Hip Hop is based on pain, struggle, and overcoming adversity not fake struggles!
30 years deep and those 2 NY spitters are still being mentioned alongside the hottest rapper out right now. That’s something worth celebrating. Salute to Nas and Hov.
Drake and Nicki have the Peter Pan syndrome…they want to be children forever. Therefore the music hasn’t evolved. The content is immature. The kids love it because it relates to them mentally, and they can’t accept criticism. Joe is just doing his job. If Joe such a failure, why value his opinion.🤷🏾♀️
Lets not forget a few years back Drake was in Joe Buddens live comments trolling his pool party. Drake watches Joe a lot and was prolly one of those guys with the dirty ENYCE jeans back in Canada. I agree with Joes feedback and cant wait for Drake to drop more music with his actual peers.
Pure jealousy 4th level madea 1 hit wonder burden critics the GOAT make it make sense like drizzy said RIP you f niggas I thank God for this life and not having to come to rushed conclusions on Best Buy podcast mics hehe
The funny thing about this is, even in the clip, you can hear Joe praising Drake. He called him the golden child and said anything that he drops, would dictate the culture. He literally called himself a Drake Stan multiple times during the podcast. He’s clearly speaking from the perspective of a fan
I swear people don't listen y'all only take the negative narrative someone can say 10 positive things and then 1 negative thing being authentic & people only hear the 1 negative this era is truly weird
@@Jacqt he hasn't hated Drake for years, he just hasn't been a fan of the music he's been putting out. Joe likes Drake when he raps more and frankly so do I.
@@KidOblivion so what’s the problem with this album? You want him to rap more but it sounds too familiar? The problem was the music “hasn’t matured”. He went back to his old ways.
Drake knows Joe is right. Even tho his albums will always be successfull and stream great, he knows deep down that he's been putting out mid ass music without substance for a few years now
How could Joe be right?? Drake's job is TO SELL RECORDS TO THE BUYERS = tapping-in with the "youngsters" is something Joe's not capable of doing because it would have to be "sincere" & no one's more fake than Joe = his lack of ability to be "humble" is Joe's biggest flaw about him because somehow he keeps convincing himself that he's on Jay-Z/Drake's level to be talking about them publicly with a serious opinion about what he couldn't possibly know or experience himself = Joe's way more delusional than anyone thinks & his extremely low intelligence doesn't help at all
@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713Did you hear the entirety of what Joe said? The clip they played isn't really what most ppl are agreeing with. Joe was saying Drake's music hasn't grown or evolved over the years like his core fanbase which imo is true. There were plenty of other ppl critiquing the album who said the same thing Joe said and most of them are fans of Drake. Joe has always praised Drake for his music but the one time he hits him with something he doesn't like now he's a hater?? That's crazy so what was he when he gave compliments? The truth is this album isn't some of Drake's best work so he's gonna get some criticism. Nobody is above constructive criticism...Nobody no matter how good you are.
@@kesha297 who's Joe to say whether an artists music has "grown" or not??? WTF has he done with his career that gives him the right/ability to say anything about Drake, who's WAY better/bigger than Joe ever was??? Joe needs to find "himself" a clue ASAP
Joe Budden never said anything wrong whatsoever. He told the real truth about drake and Drake got so into his feelings that he went off like a crybaby. I’m pretty sure he didn’t even hear Joe Budden say that he actually liked the album overall.
Their is no way Drake heard the full review and went off like that.....their was too much love and so many compliments throughout the review to get upset about that one piece of criticism. And it was a fair take!
I don't see how "fans" would hear what Drake said and defend it. If Drake thinks Joe (A multi-millionaire) is broke and a failure, what do you think Drake thinks about the regular citizen or the regular person buying his music? You are good enough only to buy his music and support him, but otherwise you have no value and are viewed as a nobody. Think about it. He said Joe is broke and can't afford a private plane. That is the measuring stick he proposed. So how many regular folks out there can afford a plane or even to buy first class flights all of the time? Folks are supporting somebody who is really dissing them too. His publicist should be fired. Or maybe not cause folks won't even catch it. Also, Birdman is wack as hell for talking about gangster stuff. Bro it's not that serious. This is similar to when Joe said he was better than Method Man lyrically and then the Wu Tang affiliate beat him up. All of this is nasty and wack. All of it. But the sad part is I wanna defend Joe, but Joe has abandoned his true fan base too. Now Joe is out here talking that rich crap soooo basically both sides are wack but I do have a little bit of grace left for Joe. I still love Joe at heart, but all of this is wack.
He he thinks he’s a failed at music. Which was the point.. he still sensitive, but it amazes me how y’all will just start adding y’all own connotations.
it's insane aubrey stans defending their hero while he's crapping on them...but they're the same type who'll front on the internet for clout/likes to appear they're on the same level as drake
My thoughts exactly!! When I read Drake’s comments it made me think about all that. Yea, he roasted Joe but I don’t really like when people try to flaunt their wealth and (indirectly) crap on working class citizens… we are the ones that buy the music and contribute to their careers.
@@SHHitsOVER254 Nah. What man is also leaving a paragraph comparing his wealth to another rich man’s & calling him a failure? Most niggas only have 1 hit SMH. That point was 🗑️ and comparable for most artists out probably agreeing with him 💀
I thought that too. If he looks down on Joe Budden for not being able to afford a private plane and living in a modest house, what must he think of all the regular folk buying his music? He didn't think that reply through before posting it at all. It makes him come off as haughty and big headed.
I never bought a Joe Budden album in my life.....BUT even I know he's not a failed rapper. What benchmark are we using for failure cause in my mind Joe aint hit one of em. Drake on the other hand as much as he depends on commercialism and "The Machine". Is he a successful rapper ir is he just the raoper who gets the most push? Cause in my mind those are 2 very different things.
Drake’s been on top for a decade. Whether you like him or not, that’s not just “push”, that’s being one of the most successful rappers of all time lol. The only song most people know Joe for is Pump it Up. That’s just a fact
Drake forgot he’s almost 40. We all know Joe was elite lyrically back then he just didn’t have huge commercial hits. And now Joe is the reason most rappers are into podcasting
Do you say the same when you listen to kanye? plus drake actually writes most of his songs, hes even written for other rappers and gotten song writing award.
@@michaelwilburnGBS I ain't talking about subtle jabs in one of his many forgettable songs. He was clearly direct to Budden and Charla, where's that energy towards Pusha T? 🤔 If he makes another version of the Story of Adinon, is Drake gonna go in hiding again?
No shit dummy. Because Charlamagne and Joe Budden are like the Skip and Stephen A. Smith of the rap indsutry. Two dudes who have never been there, talking about how it should be with people who have been there.
@@michaelwilburnGBS he was shooting at Kanye because he *thought* it was him. Thought Push was just in the way. He sent goons to Push show. That's not the same as sending an actual song at him. And he *still* ain't answer Kendrick or Joe. Even if you wanna count Push, that's 2/3 rappers that he has not clapped back at.
non facts no man should ever talk about who the next man fking or who u chill with that was wack if he dont like the sounds thats cool but not were a man chill he can fk as many 25 year old chicks he can get in his bed
@@mondomondo9138yall soft af and ain't got no dad that checked you if you think CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM is hate 😂 owww he don't like it, must be HATE. 😂🤣💀 Yall softer than my ass
In my opinion it’s not the message that pissed him off, it’s more of the Messenger. Think of someone you know that has been agitating you for a very long time. Somehow you had a stain on your favourite shirt and they pointed it out to you. Just coming from that specific person alone you’ll go off on them thinking their intent is malicious.
@@SunniMerlot so Beyoncé is a child as well because she doesn’t interview either. If I were super duper successful and I knew interviewers will try me, I’m not putting myself in that position. I don’t blame them 🤷🏾♀️
I’ve always known Drake to be a singer first. The first song I was ever introduced to by him was “Brand New” so when he came out with his first album, I didn’t even know that was the same person.
I fw with Drake but Joe wasn’t wrong. And if Joe wasn’t seeing the success he wanted in music and switched lanes and found success and purpose in podcasting how does that him a quitter? That’s what you’re supposed to do. There’s more rappers Joe’s age who are broke and/or irrelevant now.
I agree with Joe’s criticism . Listening to the album it sounded very young and like Drake was appealing to Gen Z. No hate but as a 36 year old rapper on top of the game I wish he would’ve done a better job of curating the album. But hey whatever works. Edit: Also , what is Envy talking about? Drake has ALWAYS sung on his projects lol. “If You’re Reading This” maybe the only project where he barely sung.
I think Envy is talking about full-on R&B/Pop songs with NO raps like "Just Hold On We're Going Home". He isn't denying that Drake sung often but saying that the songs where he ONLY sang were rare earlier in his career. That part I can't remember, so I can't say whether he's wrong or not lol.
@@patrickgadsden1767 point is he been on that.. did you ever watch that documentary where it showed him in his degrassing days… and he was like.. “my dad told me to be great, I have to do it all, so I started doing a little singing too”
The Real Problem with Drake is that he feels like NOBODY can tell him nothing about his success and longevity but he couldn't be more wrong. Some of the Greatest people in History who stepped into the Music Industry STILL took advice from people who didn't make it and LEARNED. They took the knowledge, appreciated it and applied it to their career. Drake is being WAY too Cocky and I feel like that's what's gonna be his downfall. There's an old quote "Pride comes before the Fall"...Don't take your success for granted and abuse it because it can be taken away just as easily. Drake also needs to remember that a large majority of his success came from the help of the Internet. Previous legends before him didn't have the Internet and was able to gain their success from TRUE HARD WORK...I often wonder if Drake's success would have been just as great without the Internet...
I wouldn't take advice from Joe Budden though lol. In addition, Joe Budden was not given advice to Drake. The guy literally was judging Drake cuz he makes music to a younger generation. Drake would take advice from lil Wayne, Jay z and Kanye. Not ppl that quit on their careers.
Joe was saying the truth, but media it's too afraid to give Drake a bad score like he deserved. So, salute to Joe for sticking to his guns. Also, Drake acting tough like we don't remember he gain a son thanks to Pusha T.
Drake got errybody talking about him and his album. Mission accomplished. Drake said what he said about Joe with Joe’s consent so Joe’s next pod episode will double it’s views. Mission accomplished.
No disrespect bro! But he's being sensitive! Not sassy! These females over using that word to shame men and don't know what it means! It means lively and bold. He not being that because he's in his feelings over another man's opinion. I'm just saying
I’m not a Joe Budden fan by any means but he definitely didn’t fail at music. He was signed to multiple labels, had hit records, his music still played to this day in movies, clubs, tv shows, etc. He made a name for himself in the rap game. Failure is when you never make it big, never have a hit song, never put out an album, never get signed, etc.
I disagree slightly i feel like joe made a name for himself yes but he definitely failed when it comes to actual Rap he is not a lyricist he had no choice but to stop making music because his music was just no longer good nor did it have any substance im not a fan of drake at all but there is some truth to what drake said if joe didn’t fail rap he’d be pulling a lot more views on his podcast and probably wouldn’t be doing a podcast in the first place as his main source of income
Really can’t take this man seriously. Drake really went from saying a Grammy doesn’t define you as an artist to dissing someone who won a Grammy over him
Say what you want about Joe but he knows how to make his words cut deep whenever he claps back or gives a critique. He hurt Drake so bad that he got his Dad and Birdman to step to Joe 🤦🏽!
I think nobody around drake can tell him the truth. Because they want to either continue to work with him or for him. Joe telling the truth comes off as a hater when everyone is telling you this was your greatest work
The other day i played "Nothing was the same" and I have to agree with Joe some of us have been rockin wit drake over 10+ years so some of us are use to a different sound yeah he can make all kinds of music but damn can you make some songs for the day 1's we wanna hear lyrics the spit drake you have become a R&B artist with all the damn singing and whinning yo ass be doin still love you though ❤
The only thing I MIGHT agree with is that Drake doesn’t really tells stories anymore. His bars are still there though IMO. Envy - Drake has always done R&B wth are you talking about ( I get lonely too, Brand new, a night off, etc) Also, leave Jason Lee out of the convos about rap. He knows nothing.
Crazy part, Joe was defending Drake for about 90% of that discussion 😂😂😂😂😂
exactly and it seem they didn't listen to the whole Drake review from the last episode and they just gave an opinion on a small segment, they not accurate at the breakfast club again and they not agreeing or disagreeing 🤦🏽♂️
Big facts
😂😂 like bro ? The people that are calling Joe a hater did not watch the whole episode , including Drake himself.
I was there. Her show was amazing 🙌🏿
@@bxbybrown3758 Nigga called Drake the Golden Child and everything LMAO
Joe Budden wasn’t wrong and he actually didn’t say anything disrespectful
Facts most people just talking without watching the whole video Joe actually showed him love
Yes he did bro get your head out of your ass 😂
After listening to the album I actually agree with Joe!!! N trust me I hate Joe Buddens 😂😂
Joe Budden can give his "opinions" cuz everybody and they momma got one and equally Drake can respond.. NEXXXXXXXXTTTTTTT
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Drake is too sensitive and Joe spoke facts..Drake also picks and chooses who he gets sassy with
Funny.
Definitely too. Joe’s comment wasn’t deep. Why drake bringing up money I will never know
Not sassy 😂
Joe always speak on Drake but hey
@@didthat4835 Drake is not who he thinks he is ..he let J prince get in his head...all rappers get talked about he is no different..must be a Cancer 👀
‘they want drake to have the energy he had in that IG post, they want it to be in his raps, and they want it to be aimed at men’
-That’s literally it.
Nicely summed up by CTG.
Someone pin this comment, literally summed up
@@Drumnedwin7literally made that comment, then saw this one. Nail on the head.
Drake getting SASSY with Joe because Joe hit a nerve.
Drake wasn't lying. at the same time Joe had a fair critique, two truths if ppl are hones.
And drake got “sassy” with Joe because he’s a roach in drake’s world. N u gotta step on roaches sometimes. He tried the spray.. he tried ignoring him completely.. but Media Joe like roaches will always be around. Plus more controversy equals more publicity.. also it takes the focus off the music now all drake gotta do is make a fire diss to a roach n change the temperature
@imofftheleantho just seen this movie before
Budden also nuked him multiple times in entire song diss tracks directed at drake several years back. Drakes a fucking new age hack. Guy couldn't touch the greats with a 1000 foot pole
@@TheDifferenceCHIthat roach raided drake so bad several years back in his multiple diss tracks to drake, that after that ass whopping and pusha ts, he ain't been the same since. Drake will get bullied and eaten alive by any real mc.
The fact that Drake responded like that lets you know what Budden said is the truth and struck a nerve. Way more accomplished MC's like Jay-Z, Nas, etc have been critiqued and they didn't respond like this. Drake is 16 going 36. Meanwhile Kendrick and Cole are making age appropriate music. 😅😅😅
drake and eminem are one in the same. Only one I've seen act like this over an album criticism is eminem.
@@thecunninlynguist yeah I was thinking Eminem too. Was clapping back because there was always some truth
@@thecunninlynguistEminem had a business relationship with Joe that went south because of Joe and he wanted to blame Eminem for his issues. They aren’t the same at all. Joe was and is biting the hands that could and did feed him. Don’t forget that Glasshouse album still could be put out but Joe was such a dick to Eminem about Revival he ruined y of that! Not the same at all. As a matter of fact I think Eminem held back a great deal about how he feels about Joe and can speak from a place that Drake can’t about Joe. Don’t forget that Joe was totally happy to screw Slaughterhouse’s contract with Eminem and Shady over his petty issues and the rest of the crew wasn’t down for that!
@@highd12 I'm aware of self destructive Joe's issues with shady. But em still took what Joe said to heart. Joe wasn't even thr first. Em takes all critics opinions to heart.
@@thecunninlynguist because Joe shouldn’t have said what he said Eminem was it using black issues to sell revival that is the issue that Eminem has with Joe. Joe acts like Eminem is up in a tower with his millions feeding off of black issues, when it’s been part of Eminem’s life to bring attention to all forms of injustice in the black community since he dropped. It was deeper than what Drake has going on with Joe and I don’t see them as the same here at all.
Joe didn’t even say nothing bad and the fact he praised him for 20 mins before giving criticism. Plus it’s true. Drake sound like he dumbing himself down to appear to kids and the quality is not where it used to be.
That's what the people want ..Kanye told y'all listen to the kids a few years ago and they did lol 😂 now y'all mad ? It's the people fault for what rap is today and that's facts
No it’s the fact that someone so irrelevant has something to say all the time, this is equivalent to your childhood doctor making comments on where you are in life right now, it wouldn’t make much sense for them to do it but if he or she did it would be so irrelevant
@@basketballmonster2797He’s clearly not irrelevant if you, the breakfast club , and drake himself needed to address him
@@basketballmonster2797he’s far from irrelevant
Especially painting his finger nails and wearing colorful hair clips. Something isn’t right with that dude.
This time Joe was absolutely right about Drake. His subject matter hasn’t matured at all. He probably doesn’t care though
Outta him, K Dot and Cole, Drake has evolved the LEAST over the years
@@blove88in content maybe your right. But in terms of music he’s the one that’s involved the MOST. He’s evolved with the times. Cole and Kendrick sound like traditional rap, and rap fans like that
@@leandroportillo1234💯% Accurate. Drake Is Like Lebron James Nigha A Hybrid.
Cole & Kendrick Grow As They Grow In life
oh he cares. That's why he responded. The age/content comment hurt his soul. Cause it's true. Pretty soon he'll look like the fool at 40 trying to cater to the 30 under crowd.
We can say the same about Lil Wayne his content has not mature he still talking about immature childish shit in his music
I’m still waiting on Drake to be this DIRECT with Pusha T!
Keep waiting loser
You guys need to get a life if this is what you call entertainment.
No lies there. He's straight 😺
That'll never happen. Pusha is a real mofo. Drake is manufactured.
It wouldn't end well for Drake..he don't want that Pusha T smoke again...he remembers the outcome last time 😂😂
Joe always know just what to say that get Drake in his feelings, this aint even the first time, but thats how you know he be right 💯
Facts 😂😂😂😂they been doing this for years 😂💯
Its so crazy that for someone who Drake considers a "failure" he always has a response for hi whenever Joe says something that is critical
@@javianjohnson8746 💯💯💯💯 joe lowkey was a inspiration to drake. ThTs probably why he holds his opinion closer to his heart
Drake is a Joey fan
@@DRPosterBoy literally
Drake in his drake feeling's 😂😂😂😂
He suddenly in wuss suss spirit mode here😂
😂
Let’s be honest we at a point of time where Drake can sing I love hot water and people will be on his nuts. Let’s be honest
nah. id say most people make fun of him
Irony because thats not why we talking about him right now
@@themondoshownot true, love will always outweigh the hate. Why do you think he so successful, with sold out shows and selling a bunch of albums, that’s not from hate
@@YoungMannie92 thats because the “haters” still lowkey listen to his music and mostly dont really hate and do stuff for interactions
That’s called greatness
This whole time Drake has been playing the part of a rapper 🤷🏿♂️
That part. A good actor indeed.
Now this is the real truth.
Just like Nicki! Drake, Nicki, and Lil Wayne all rap the same and share writers. Drake was born and raised in a white middle-class neighborhood. His only struggle was not fitting in, just like Nicki Minaj. Her dad was on crack, but they still owned a home, and she went to excellent schools. Lil Wayne was born in a middle-class neighborhood he chose to run the streets and hang around thugs! They don’t qualify as American Rappers and Hip Hop Artists because true Rap/Hip Hop is based on pain, struggle, and overcoming adversity not fake struggles!
And Yes Lil Wanye is from the Nice part of Hollygrove he claims an area that he hung out in part-time 😂
Cosplsying as gangsta but the biggest baby 🙄
30 years deep and those 2 NY spitters are still being mentioned alongside the hottest rapper out right now. That’s something worth celebrating. Salute to Nas and Hov.
Drake and Nicki have the Peter Pan syndrome…they want to be children forever. Therefore the music hasn’t evolved. The content is immature. The kids love it because it relates to them mentally, and they can’t accept criticism. Joe is just doing his job. If Joe such a failure, why value his opinion.🤷🏾♀️
Best comment I’ve read 💯💯💯
@@carolynswan1171Exactly I agree. This comment said everything I was thinking fr.
Hasn't evolved its devolved.
This makes no sense
Do you say the same about future ???
Lets not forget a few years back Drake was in Joe Buddens live comments trolling his pool party. Drake watches Joe a lot and was prolly one of those guys with the dirty ENYCE jeans back in Canada. I agree with Joes feedback and cant wait for Drake to drop more music with his actual peers.
There are also pics of Drake’s bm at one of Joe’s pool parties too😂
Facts 😂😂😂😂
@@njrodgers2551plot twist lol
Drake was 100% a Joe Budden fan
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Drake wouldn’t be reacting like this if there wasn’t some truth to what Joe was saying
Exactly. Only hit dogs holler. And that album was definitely "hit" 👀
Y’all respond when someone honks at you . Stfu 😂
@@user-jd4uz9gw3h my only response is a full stop on green, not yelling at them like a smacked child
@@user-jd4uz9gw3h get them beige nuts out ya mouf my guy
Drake’s response further proves Joe’s entire argument.
Joe spoke facts. Drake too sensitive
Pure jealousy 4th level madea 1 hit wonder burden critics the GOAT make it make sense like drizzy said RIP you f niggas I thank God for this life and not having to come to rushed conclusions on Best Buy podcast mics hehe
Joe didn’t speak facts lol
🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
hope you guys and girls saying drake was right are 30
@@JohnSmith-er5gvhe didn’t lie 🤷🏾♂️
The funny thing about this is, even in the clip, you can hear Joe praising Drake. He called him the golden child and said anything that he drops, would dictate the culture. He literally called himself a Drake Stan multiple times during the podcast. He’s clearly speaking from the perspective of a fan
Joe ain't saying nothing wrong he was giving him props
Yes he did he clowned him ok his raps and his age and everything. Y’all
Say anything
@@dee27206he said you can't be this age making music for teens lol
@@dee27206 ironic comment alert. YOU just say anything.
You can tell the people who didn't hear the full segment. Joe had way more positive stuff to say then that one spicy moment
I swear people don't listen y'all only take the negative narrative someone can say 10 positive things and then 1 negative thing being authentic & people only hear the 1 negative this era is truly weird
I hate the fact that people can't have an opinion or critique something someone puts out without being called a hater.
Joe calling out drake’s age and the age of the women he dates is HATING
Welcome to the music industry where you can't have an opinion on any subject matter.
Years of a negative opinion is hating
@@Jacqt he hasn't hated Drake for years, he just hasn't been a fan of the music he's been putting out. Joe likes Drake when he raps more and frankly so do I.
@@KidOblivion so what’s the problem with this album? You want him to rap more but it sounds too familiar? The problem was the music “hasn’t matured”. He went back to his old ways.
Envy talkn about everything but them scams😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
His lawyer said mum is the word 😂😂
What scams?
I think he addressed it in a video already
😂😂😂😂😂I need to call up there and ask him about it
The same Drake who said it was a honor to be in Joe’s presence lmao smh
Drake knows Joe is right. Even tho his albums will always be successfull and stream great, he knows deep down that he's been putting out mid ass music without substance for a few years now
How could Joe be right?? Drake's job is TO SELL RECORDS TO THE BUYERS = tapping-in with the "youngsters" is something Joe's not capable of doing because it would have to be "sincere" & no one's more fake than Joe = his lack of ability to be "humble" is Joe's biggest flaw about him because somehow he keeps convincing himself that he's on Jay-Z/Drake's level to be talking about them publicly with a serious opinion about what he couldn't possibly know or experience himself = Joe's way more delusional than anyone thinks & his extremely low intelligence doesn't help at all
@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713Did you hear the entirety of what Joe said? The clip they played isn't really what most ppl are agreeing with. Joe was saying Drake's music hasn't grown or evolved over the years like his core fanbase which imo is true. There were plenty of other ppl critiquing the album who said the same thing Joe said and most of them are fans of Drake. Joe has always praised Drake for his music but the one time he hits him with something he doesn't like now he's a hater?? That's crazy so what was he when he gave compliments? The truth is this album isn't some of Drake's best work so he's gonna get some criticism. Nobody is above constructive criticism...Nobody no matter how good you are.
@@kesha297 who's Joe to say whether an artists music has "grown" or not??? WTF has he done with his career that gives him the right/ability to say anything about Drake, who's WAY better/bigger than Joe ever was??? Joe needs to find "himself" a clue ASAP
It'll sell but the OGs don't respect it 🤷♀️
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 we all know selling music to kids does not equate GOAT status. Be grown lil baby.
I agree with Joe on this one. As a 34 yo Drake got me through my 20's its getting old now.
Joe was right.
Naaah
Drake is still an actor. He's been killing this role a rapper for years now
Aubrey graham is who drake really is inside ...a woman trapped in a fake gangster's body
I'm not gonna cap Shawn Cee was right... as a "Top 3 Rapper" next to Cole & Kendrick, Drake's pen ain't there anymore.
Facts😂😂😂😂😂 It wasn't his pen anyway.
who tf measures credibility by what shawn cee says 🤣
Mans actually takes an emo man’s critique as fact 😂😂😂 his reviews are trash.
@@HempBraumHe has valid criticism sometimes.
One of those top tier rappers in cole said out of his own mouth that they are the big 3. Drake isn’t even a rapper he’s an artist who can rap.
Joe Budden never said anything wrong whatsoever. He told the real truth about drake and Drake got so into his feelings that he went off like a crybaby. I’m pretty sure he didn’t even hear Joe Budden say that he actually liked the album overall.
He wouldn’t have said that to Push. Just saying 🤷🏾♂️
It’s cause nobody can find him 😂😂
Pusha t need to come back with a DISS ALBUM😂😂😂
Joe bodied Drake years ago
Drake was about to end the rest of push career. The lil bit that he had
You can't be serious 😂😂
Their is no way Drake heard the full review and went off like that.....their was too much love and so many compliments throughout the review to get upset about that one piece of criticism. And it was a fair take!
Wtf is envy talking about? The song that got Drake poppin was a singing record lmao
Poppin n respected are two different things ..sexy redd is poppin but latto is respected..makes sense ?
@@DadBot-_- that’s not the argument Envy was making… what are you talking about?
@@DadBot-_-no what you said makes no sense lol envy said drake was singing in the beginning and was wrong
@@elchapo6175 envy didn't say that so you're the one who don't know what he is saying lmao 🤣🤦♂️
@@King-mf3wh don't have to be ..I'm just letting it be known
I don't see how "fans" would hear what Drake said and defend it. If Drake thinks Joe (A multi-millionaire) is broke and a failure, what do you think Drake thinks about the regular citizen or the regular person buying his music? You are good enough only to buy his music and support him, but otherwise you have no value and are viewed as a nobody. Think about it. He said Joe is broke and can't afford a private plane. That is the measuring stick he proposed. So how many regular folks out there can afford a plane or even to buy first class flights all of the time? Folks are supporting somebody who is really dissing them too. His publicist should be fired. Or maybe not cause folks won't even catch it. Also, Birdman is wack as hell for talking about gangster stuff. Bro it's not that serious. This is similar to when Joe said he was better than Method Man lyrically and then the Wu Tang affiliate beat him up. All of this is nasty and wack. All of it. But the sad part is I wanna defend Joe, but Joe has abandoned his true fan base too. Now Joe is out here talking that rich crap soooo basically both sides are wack but I do have a little bit of grace left for Joe. I still love Joe at heart, but all of this is wack.
He he thinks he’s a failed at music. Which was the point.. he still sensitive, but it amazes me how y’all will just start adding y’all own connotations.
it's insane aubrey stans defending their hero while he's crapping on them...but they're the same type who'll front on the internet for clout/likes to appear they're on the same level as drake
My thoughts exactly!! When I read Drake’s comments it made me think about all that. Yea, he roasted Joe but I don’t really like when people try to flaunt their wealth and (indirectly) crap on working class citizens… we are the ones that buy the music and contribute to their careers.
@@SHHitsOVER254 Nah. What man is also leaving a paragraph comparing his wealth to another rich man’s & calling him a failure? Most niggas only have 1 hit SMH. That point was 🗑️ and comparable for most artists out probably agreeing with him 💀
I thought that too. If he looks down on Joe Budden for not being able to afford a private plane and living in a modest house, what must he think of all the regular folk buying his music? He didn't think that reply through before posting it at all. It makes him come off as haughty and big headed.
I never bought a Joe Budden album in my life.....BUT even I know he's not a failed rapper. What benchmark are we using for failure cause in my mind Joe aint hit one of em. Drake on the other hand as much as he depends on commercialism and "The Machine". Is he a successful rapper ir is he just the raoper who gets the most push? Cause in my mind those are 2 very different things.
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Ig he means for younger people who think of Joe Budden as the radio podcast guy alot of us never even knew he was a rapper, unless ur older.
Drake’s been on top for a decade. Whether you like him or not, that’s not just “push”, that’s being one of the most successful rappers of all time lol. The only song most people know Joe for is Pump it Up. That’s just a fact
Drake forgot he’s almost 40. We all know Joe was elite lyrically back then he just didn’t have huge commercial hits. And now Joe is the reason most rappers are into podcasting
Nah he's a failed rapper. I'm in my late 30s and I don't know of any Joe Budden songs other than Pump it Up.
When I listen to a Drake song I know I am listening to a product prepared by a team of producers and writers not an artist.
A whole machine
@@YoursTrulyRobYes, but it's a very profitable machine.
@@jeffghant4760he still ain’t no singer tho
Do you say the same when you listen to kanye? plus drake actually writes most of his songs, hes even written for other rappers and gotten song writing award.
Dam
Shots fired
Drake has no problem calling out a radio host (Charla) and a retired rapper (Budden) but he was silent when Pusha T clapped back 🤔🤔🤔
Drake has dissed Pusha many times, including on this new album. Do y’all listen to music or just skim through it?
@@michaelwilburnGBSthey definitely just be talkin. Lmaoooo
@@michaelwilburnGBS I ain't talking about subtle jabs in one of his many forgettable songs. He was clearly direct to Budden and Charla, where's that energy towards Pusha T? 🤔 If he makes another version of the Story of Adinon, is Drake gonna go in hiding again?
@@michaelwilburnGBS Where was his reply to Story of Adidon?
No shit dummy. Because Charlamagne and Joe Budden are like the Skip and Stephen A. Smith of the rap indsutry. Two dudes who have never been there, talking about how it should be with people who have been there.
For a person like Drake who does not want to pay attention to people who have an opinion of him, he sure does care a lot
Damn Drake gave Joe Budden an essay, but won't give Pusha T 16 bars. 😩
Nor kendrick
Nor Joe himself have u heard wake or making a murderer
Long list of unanswered rappers smh. Ducking smoke
Drake has dissed Pusha T multiple times, including a few on this new album. WTF do y’all even get this lie from?
@@michaelwilburnGBS he was shooting at Kanye because he *thought* it was him. Thought Push was just in the way.
He sent goons to Push show. That's not the same as sending an actual song at him.
And he *still* ain't answer Kendrick or Joe. Even if you wanna count Push, that's 2/3 rappers that he has not clapped back at.
It never fails. Jason Lee will always find a way to tell you who he knows. “I knew Drake before he was a rapper…”
Love to throw his friendships with cardi, Rihanna, his latest Rolls Royce. Yet Beyoncé was dodging him
@@thatguruniaare him and riri still friends?
I saw a comment that said "When Drake put out 'For All The Dogs' he meant the female ones."
😂😂😂
Drake definitely got sassy 😂🤣😂🤣🤣 them fingers was MOVIN’
Joe spoke facts🤣wasn’t any hate
non facts no man should ever talk about who the next man fking or who u chill with that was wack if he dont like the sounds thats cool but not were a man chill he can fk as many 25 year old chicks he can get in his bed
Definitely was hate
@@JohnSmith-er5gv oh you seen the WHOLE episode? And the past months of drake praise from him ?
@@JohnSmith-er5gv 100% was you can hear it when he speak
@@mondomondo9138yall soft af and ain't got no dad that checked you if you think CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM is hate 😂 owww he don't like it, must be HATE. 😂🤣💀 Yall softer than my ass
In my opinion it’s not the message that pissed him off, it’s more of the Messenger.
Think of someone you know that has been agitating you for a very long time. Somehow you had a stain on your favourite shirt and they pointed it out to you.
Just coming from that specific person alone you’ll go off on them thinking their intent is malicious.
Drake looks up to Joe. That’s why it hurt him. Just as when Joe dropped those diss tracks years ago.
Drake is actually cool with Joe. Drake just overreacted
Drake completed overreacted. Joe was low key complimenting him
Not at all. Fake low key “love” is played out
High-key complimenting him really
@@MoPerspective how was it fake? Joe's a bigger drake stan you
@@MoPerspectiveJoe champions drake on a regular basis. This is the reason Drake won’t do real interviews or anything he’s a child
@@SunniMerlot so Beyoncé is a child as well because she doesn’t interview either. If I were super duper successful and I knew interviewers will try me, I’m not putting myself in that position. I don’t blame them 🤷🏾♀️
I am NOT a Joe Budden fan on any level but his bars, but he's 100000% on point this time.
When Meek went to social media it was called “Twitter fingers” and everyone clowned him for it. What is this? lol
He did it on IG. Different apps🤷🏿♂️
Exactly Drake used them in his show….😂😂 But this sassy essay is ok.
They got Drake clutching his pearls in the thumbnail 😂😂😂
Aubrey in his feelings...he dissed Parks lmao. PARKS!
"Watching a Failure"
Is Wild Lmfaoooooo 😂😂😂😂
If you think Joe failed at music you musta never jammed Pump It Up on Madden 2003 or your big brother's Now Thats What I Call Music 04. Was a vibe
😂😂😂😂 nice try
I've never in my life never purposely played Pump It Up
Ur yt
That was twentyyyyyyyy years ago!
Pump It Up was the only thing Joe Budden had that made him relevant.
I’ve always known Drake to be a singer first. The first song I was ever introduced to by him was “Brand New” so when he came out with his first album, I didn’t even know that was the same person.
I fw with Drake but Joe wasn’t wrong. And if Joe wasn’t seeing the success he wanted in music and switched lanes and found success and purpose in podcasting how does that him a quitter? That’s what you’re supposed to do. There’s more rappers Joe’s age who are broke and/or irrelevant now.
You're right but you know these dumbass Drake fans gonna think Drake is right because he had more followers on Twitter
exactly, Joe used the connections that he had to pivot into a new opportunity and he is very successful at it.
Facts
@@malilawrence8654 it’s the complete opposite of a quitter 😂
@@malilawrence8654no he used the internet
Drake is for guys who like their hairline and beard look perfectly painted on and get that clear nail polish on their manicures😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nas was disappointed in J. Cole and Cole responded with a respectful song and Nas responded to the song with a remix
Drake IS clearly in his feelings
Joe Budden is no nas.
we comparing Nas and Joey
Did we listen to the same song? What disrespect did Cole say about Nas in that particular song? You just grasping for straws at this point!
Joe was/is drake's Nas. Aubrey idolized Joey.
If you know… you know
I agree with Joe’s criticism . Listening to the album it sounded very young and like Drake was appealing to Gen Z. No hate but as a 36 year old rapper on top of the game I wish he would’ve done a better job of curating the album. But hey whatever works.
Edit: Also , what is Envy talking about? Drake has ALWAYS sung on his projects lol. “If You’re Reading This” maybe the only project where he barely sung.
I think Envy is talking about full-on R&B/Pop songs with NO raps like "Just Hold On We're Going Home". He isn't denying that Drake sung often but saying that the songs where he ONLY sang were rare earlier in his career. That part I can't remember, so I can't say whether he's wrong or not lol.
*EARLIER in his career
Drakes room for improvement and comeback season were where he was spittin bro... so far gone was when he started doing pop and r&b music
Both of those mixtapes had r&b production.. comeback season he’s actually singing… he been on that
@SHHitsOVER254 yeah but like one or two songs
@@patrickgadsden1767 point is he been on that.. did you ever watch that documentary where it showed him in his degrassing days… and he was like.. “my dad told me to be great, I have to do it all, so I started doing a little singing too”
@@SHHitsOVER254yea and now he does “alot of singing”
@@jamestribie3387 soy boy gone do what a soy boy do llab 🤣
The Real Problem with Drake is that he feels like NOBODY can tell him nothing about his success and longevity but he couldn't be more wrong. Some of the Greatest people in History who stepped into the Music Industry STILL took advice from people who didn't make it and LEARNED. They took the knowledge, appreciated it and applied it to their career. Drake is being WAY too Cocky and I feel like that's what's gonna be his downfall. There's an old quote "Pride comes before the Fall"...Don't take your success for granted and abuse it because it can be taken away just as easily. Drake also needs to remember that a large majority of his success came from the help of the Internet. Previous legends before him didn't have the Internet and was able to gain their success from TRUE HARD WORK...I often wonder if Drake's success would have been just as great without the Internet...
I wouldn't take advice from Joe Budden though lol. In addition, Joe Budden was not given advice to Drake. The guy literally was judging Drake cuz he makes music to a younger generation. Drake would take advice from lil Wayne, Jay z and Kanye. Not ppl that quit on their careers.
That was not an Old quote - it was biblical, Proverbs 16:18-19. Give God His Glory.
You can’t come at me with the attitude Joe had a get me to listen to nothing you saying. Better tone it down before I humble you myself
Some of the best coaches never made it in the league
Drake gets EMOTIONAL with Joe Budden… “you broke my heart”.
Drake and Joe both made points. This is definitely two things can be true situation
Drake always sung.....Always!!!!!.....even on the mixtape
Envy don't be knowin wtf he talkin bout most of the time
People are talking about his content & his 🖊. Not his singing lol
Facts 👌🏾
THE THUMBNAIL !!! 😂💅🏾
Drake still salty that A$AP got Rihanna 🤣
I'm tired of this dude being able to get away with his spiciness. When Pusha T put his foot in your ass and you said nothing.
Exactly…😂😂😂 He hurt.
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
The fact that Drake responded in this manner means Joe hit a soft spot and that makes Drake take an L.
I hate when clips make headlines. Watch the podcast with context. He praised Drake the whole time. He even said he liked the album
Facts. But that’s not the world we in
Drake probably only watched a clip too. He on some emotional BS
Joe was saying the truth, but media it's too afraid to give Drake a bad score like he deserved. So, salute to Joe for sticking to his guns. Also, Drake acting tough like we don't remember he gain a son thanks to Pusha T.
Envy failed at Real Estate
Drake got errybody talking about him and his album. Mission accomplished. Drake said what he said about Joe with Joe’s consent so Joe’s next pod episode will double it’s views. Mission accomplished.
Drake Sassy over this? SMH Joe didn’t even disrespect him.
No disrespect bro! But he's being sensitive! Not sassy! These females over using that word to shame men and don't know what it means! It means lively and bold. He not being that because he's in his feelings over another man's opinion. I'm just saying
1:34 - We need a Thank Me Later pt 2, Take Care pt 2 and/or NWTS pt 2!!!!
Jason lee up there spilling all the tea and I’m over here like shhhhid ☕️ 😂
He is soooo messy 🤭. I love it
The commentary is always great and then.. Envy opens his mout. Lmao
Drake was definitely singing from the beginning lol Brand New? A Night Off?!
These guys will speak on Joe but wont speak on Envy scamming the community
I’m not a Joe Budden fan by any means but he definitely didn’t fail at music. He was signed to multiple labels, had hit records, his music still played to this day in movies, clubs, tv shows, etc. He made a name for himself in the rap game. Failure is when you never make it big, never have a hit song, never put out an album, never get signed, etc.
I disagree slightly i feel like joe made a name for himself yes but he definitely failed when it comes to actual Rap he is not a lyricist he had no choice but to stop making music because his music was just no longer good nor did it have any substance im not a fan of drake at all but there is some truth to what drake said if joe didn’t fail rap he’d be pulling a lot more views on his podcast and probably wouldn’t be doing a podcast in the first place as his main source of income
Envy needs to do his homework instead of trying to sell the Statue of Liberty.
If this doesn’t get Joe Budden back in the booth, nothing will.
😂
J COLE HAS HAD A LEGENDARY YEAR WITH FEATURES, AND HE DIDNT HAVE TO SHUCK AND JIVE FOR YOUTH TO DO IT 😂
Jason lee Shooting at Nas wasn't needed 😂
Nah Envy, Drake been singing since the start. He had straight rnb cuts on Comeback Season and So Far Gone
Y’all need to get up on Esperanza
The funniest part is in the entire discussion Joe said he liked the album. Drake clearly didn’t care about that though lmao
When you give IG stories about another man, truth must have been spoken.
FACTS especially when you wake up the next day and still keep doing it.
Really can’t take this man seriously. Drake really went from saying a Grammy doesn’t define you as an artist to dissing someone who won a Grammy over him
Drakaria stays throwing shots at women
Drake was clearly inspired by Mood Muzik but still they both right
6:46 - They we’re on & off between 2010 & 2016!!!!
Drake was acting as a rapper…
ES plays the standing base… extremely talented
Joe CLEARLY struck a nerve if Drake had to respond like that, only hit dogs holla 👀
Say what you want about Joe but he knows how to make his words cut deep whenever he claps back or gives a critique. He hurt Drake so bad that he got his Dad and Birdman to step to Joe 🤦🏽!
It's evident to me Joe struck a nerve and Drake was in his feels
Joe is so right hopefully Drake will get out his feelings one day
I think nobody around drake can tell him the truth. Because they want to either continue to work with him or for him. Joe telling the truth comes off as a hater when everyone is telling you this was your greatest work
Damn, the Breakfast club has the WORST takes these days. Joe did NOT sound like a hater at all
It's time Drake puts some respect on a genre that truly belongs to real blacks! Not this nepo babies claiming to do the most!
“You retired and we never hung up your jersey” We don’t even remember your number 🤣😂😩
Budden's got a point. He didn't dismiss Drake's artistry, he just said its time to evolve......Drake is entirely too much in his feelings.
The other day i played "Nothing was the same" and I have to agree with Joe some of us have been rockin wit drake over 10+ years so some of us are use to a different sound yeah he can make all kinds of music but damn can you make some songs for the day 1's we wanna hear lyrics the spit drake you have become a R&B artist with all the damn singing and whinning yo ass be doin still love you though ❤
Fan tone not rapper tone when joe said that.
The only thing I MIGHT agree with is that Drake doesn’t really tells stories anymore. His bars are still there though IMO. Envy - Drake has always done R&B wth are you talking about ( I get lonely too, Brand new, a night off, etc) Also, leave Jason Lee out of the convos about rap. He knows nothing.