Я тут прочитала коменты, что только не пишут, и что тренеры заставили жениться Жулина на Майе, глупость несусветная, а то что Жулин морочил голову двум девушкам, он получил в награду Навку, , и получил бумеранг, Майя красавица и очень талантливая, насчёт Паши, талантливая простушка, и главным в паре был Евгений Платов, потому что когда она встала в пару с жулиным, сразу стало всё ясно, кто есть кто
It was my recollection that Gritchuk and Platuov won the OGM mainly because Usova and Zhulin in 1994 could not longer skate romantic numbers which was their forte due to their discontent and such. It was sad because Usova and Zhulin were special but that was all lost due to lust, deceit, whatever.
+Helen Areev. It's kind of funny because in 1994, Usova & Zhulin actually skated programs with good content for once. But look at how much their speed and flow cut down that year! That was very indicative to me that they couldn't handle a high level of content. While U&Z were beautiful, they were not at the same level technically as either Klimova & Ponomarenko or Grishuk & Platov.
I never knew that Maya and Evgeny became skating partners. Good for her that she got out of a loveless marriage. And from what I remember about Pasha in her interviews in the late 90s, she seemed crass.
however much a betrayal it might be, cheating is one thing. but raising your hand against your wife, as a man i just can't understand that. that is inexcusable.
+Helen Areev I genuinely feel sorry for you. You must be a really lonely unintelligent person. You pop up in the comments section with these ridiculous accusations about Ekaterina Gordeeva having an affair with Alexander Zhulin and Maya Usova losing her daughter (and even having the gall to say it was the Lord's will!) You can use an English class and a spell checker, maybe ask for a brain and a heart while you're at it.
@Loose Wings I’ve actually heard so many people say that and I believe it. She also sheared on ilia kulik twice. What a shameless woman. And then she proceeded to write a book on Sergei and pretend to be such a grieving widow knowing she cheated on him. Did Sergei ever find out? I doubt he did if he stayed with her
I guess no one here knew the real story that Maya was the one who was cheating and lying about broken family. 17 years later she finally admitted in Russian famous newspaper interview that Oksana was not the cause of her broken marriage but she was . Maya was the one who cheated on her husband and played a role of poor sheep with evil idea to ruin Oksana's reputation
Просто "клубок змей"! И каждый рассказывает со стороны своей "правды"! На одного Жулина - Усова, Грищук, Гордеева, Навка, Михайлова... Ну, прям, супермен!
Не слышала, чтобы Майя говорила, что изменяла Жулину, ни он сам никогда об этом не говорил, никто из тренеров ни одного плохого слова о Майе не сказал. А вот Вы неблагодарная , сказали, что ТАрасова программу новую Вам не поставила и Вы выиграли лишь благодаря своему мастерству, ну как же не поставила????А Реквием???ТАрасова - Великий тренер, а Вы кто???Когда Платов стал танцевать с Усовой, Вы с Жулиным им проиграли на чемпионате мира.....Время показало, ху из кто? И потом в 2006 году Платов Вас простил и стал кататься с Вами.....
I am sure Maia didn't help things. Her reactions escalated things. To try to be objective Usova and Zhulin were criticized for lack of content but beautiful skating. I never heard Usova described as so mentally unstable but rather mad about her treatment by Zhulin. This is not a court of law but if you look at Zhulin's numerous relationships that would tend to favour Maia as the vicitm. IN these posts I think people are confusing the orphane waif from the Ukraine Oksana Baiul and Grtischuk at times. Oksana/Pasha was crass in her behaviour and conduct. She also was a good ice dancer - very good. Perhaps not of the level of Tessa Virture, MEryl Davis, Klimova, Krylova, Torvill, Bestmianova et al but very good and fast. As bad as Pasha was Zhulin also needs to be chastised. I have a feeling if Usova and Zhulin skated like they did in the olympics in 1992 they would have won in 1994.
O.V. GrishAll this negative comments is total BS . You people don't know the real true story . Only listened and followed lies of Maya and her paid reporters that she slept with so they can help her to ruin Oksana Grishuk but 17 years later Maya admitedFinally the truth that she was the one who broken her marriage because of her husband abusing her for cheating on him behind his back . Sasha never loved Maya. Coaches pushed him to marry Maya and that is what all Russian coaches used to do to keep the team
Тренеры могут создать спортивную пару, но кого-то заставить жениться или выйти замуж...когда Майя и Александр были счастливы, посмотрите, какие у них были программы, этого не скрыть
НУ да, конечно, МАйя изменяла Жулину и НАвка тоже изменяла Жулину, когда Вы Оксана лезли и во вторую пару Навки и Жулина. Лезть в семью - грех большой, поэтому Вы себе настолько карму испортили, что несчастливы. Талантливая фигуристка, ничего не скажешь, НО как женщина......
Pasha Grishuk is just plain tacky. Her skating was tacky and she was tacky in her personal life. Zhulin is a snake. The first time I saw Maia Usova and Evgeni Platov skate together, they both looked like they'd been sprung from prison. I hope that wherever they are today, they have found peace and real love.
The Lord God ordered so: usova lost her the only baby, because she ugly skated with Oksana partner during she was pregnat. platov still is not married and has no kids. Oksana is happy married, has wonderful dauther- one of the best tennis player of America. Everyone has own ticket. Baul is still under podium.
@Loose Wings You have got to be kidding. She was awkward, whacky, she never seemed to have much control when she skated. Evgeny was the true strength of that pair.
People talk about Oksana but never complain about Zhulin. He took advantage of a mentally unstable woman.
Exactly
@@amerikateambiden6638 You see clearly.
@@TaushaTW He never loved Maya he was in love with Oksana that's the only true, mentally ill Maya
Ik. The slut shaming never seemed fair to me since Zhulin was the one who was married and eventually cheated on Oksana too.
@@dellsbells100 he was like women slut, but he was in love with Oksana
Я тут прочитала коменты, что только не пишут, и что тренеры заставили жениться Жулина на Майе, глупость несусветная, а то что Жулин морочил голову двум девушкам, он получил в награду Навку, , и получил бумеранг, Майя красавица и очень талантливая, насчёт Паши, талантливая простушка, и главным в паре был Евгений Платов, потому что когда она встала в пару с жулиным, сразу стало всё ясно, кто есть кто
It was my recollection that Gritchuk and Platuov won the OGM mainly because Usova and Zhulin in 1994 could not longer skate romantic numbers which was their forte due to their discontent and such. It was sad because Usova and Zhulin were special but that was all lost due to lust, deceit, whatever.
they were too old for figure skating. to slowly.
+Helen Areev. It's kind of funny because in 1994, Usova & Zhulin actually skated programs with good content for once. But look at how much their speed and flow cut down that year! That was very indicative to me that they couldn't handle a high level of content. While U&Z were beautiful, they were not at the same level technically as either Klimova & Ponomarenko or Grishuk & Platov.
I heard the only way the judges could stop T&D winning after the OD was to put G&P first - because they screwed it up at Euros
It seems that Grishuk was always next to Platov! Even in difficult times and surgery! Whenever your partner!
@loosewings1946faithful ya right 🙄
I never knew that Maya and Evgeny became skating partners. Good for her that she got out of a loveless marriage. And from what I remember about Pasha in her interviews in the late 90s, she seemed crass.
i do remember them getting together and they had the support of the people
everyone take others equivalent to themself. Ugly people
ugly people will never get support from nice people.
"Remember Pasha, I tell you, I kill you..." Maia is a bad ass I knew it! lmao
+ＮＯＲＲＥＤＩＡＮ -ＰＯＰ- I know! I loved how she said that! Go Maia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how ugly was usova. so she lost her the only baby and her resedence in america.
That man was not worth it.
however much a betrayal it might be, cheating is one thing. but raising your hand against your wife, as a man i just can't understand that. that is inexcusable.
sure. Zhulin had affair with Gordeeva. Ab 1992 with Navka.
+Helen Areev I genuinely feel sorry for you. You must be a really lonely unintelligent person. You pop up in the comments section with these ridiculous accusations about Ekaterina Gordeeva having an affair with Alexander Zhulin and Maya Usova losing her daughter (and even having the gall to say it was the Lord's will!) You can use an English class and a spell checker, maybe ask for a brain and a heart while you're at it.
@@helenareev6463 did he actually? I’ve heard these things but gordeeva fans always deny it
@Loose Wings I’ve actually heard so many people say that and I believe it. She also sheared on ilia kulik twice. What a shameless woman. And then she proceeded to write a book on Sergei and pretend to be such a grieving widow knowing she cheated on him. Did Sergei ever find out? I doubt he did if he stayed with her
@@helenareev6463 and how tf do u know? Katia isnt no cheater so shut the fuck up
best fluff ever!!!!!!!!
wow! i had forgotten about this story!
I guess no one here knew the real story that Maya was the one who was cheating and lying about broken family. 17 years later she finally admitted in Russian famous newspaper interview that Oksana was not the cause of her broken marriage but she was . Maya was the one who cheated on her husband and played a role of poor sheep with evil idea to ruin Oksana's reputation
Просто "клубок змей"! И каждый рассказывает со стороны своей "правды"! На одного Жулина - Усова, Грищук, Гордеева, Навка, Михайлова... Ну, прям, супермен!
Больше, чем она сама себе, никто не смог бы испортить О.Грищук репутацию
Не слышала, чтобы Майя говорила, что изменяла Жулину, ни он сам никогда об этом не говорил, никто из тренеров ни одного плохого слова о Майе не сказал. А вот Вы неблагодарная , сказали, что ТАрасова программу новую Вам не поставила и Вы выиграли лишь благодаря своему мастерству, ну как же не поставила????А Реквием???ТАрасова - Великий тренер, а Вы кто???Когда Платов стал танцевать с Усовой, Вы с Жулиным им проиграли на чемпионате мира.....Время показало, ху из кто? И потом в 2006 году Платов Вас простил и стал кататься с Вами.....
I am sure Maia didn't help things. Her reactions escalated things. To try to be objective Usova and Zhulin were criticized for lack of content but beautiful skating. I never heard Usova described as so mentally unstable but rather mad about her treatment by Zhulin. This is not a court of law but if you look at Zhulin's numerous relationships that would tend to favour Maia as the vicitm. IN these posts I think people are confusing the orphane waif from the Ukraine Oksana Baiul and Grtischuk at times. Oksana/Pasha was crass in her behaviour and conduct. She also was a good ice dancer - very good. Perhaps not of the level of Tessa Virture, MEryl Davis, Klimova, Krylova, Torvill, Bestmianova et al but very good and fast. As bad as Pasha was Zhulin also needs to be chastised. I have a feeling if Usova and Zhulin skated like they did in the olympics in 1992 they would have won in 1994.
@@Nikion374Да, женщины очень любили Жулина🤷♀️ наверно было за что🤔
O.V. GrishAll this negative comments is total BS . You people don't know the real true story . Only listened and followed lies of Maya and her paid reporters that she slept with so they can help her to ruin Oksana Grishuk but 17 years later Maya admitedFinally the truth that she was the one who broken her marriage because of her husband abusing her for cheating on him behind his back . Sasha never loved Maya. Coaches pushed him to marry Maya and that is what all Russian coaches used to do to keep the team
Тренеры могут создать спортивную пару, но кого-то заставить жениться или выйти замуж...когда Майя и Александр были счастливы, посмотрите, какие у них были программы, этого не скрыть
НУ да, конечно, МАйя изменяла Жулину и НАвка тоже изменяла Жулину, когда Вы Оксана лезли и во вторую пару Навки и Жулина. Лезть в семью - грех большой, поэтому Вы себе настолько карму испортили, что несчастливы. Талантливая фигуристка, ничего не скажешь, НО как женщина......
Oksana is the most beautiful woman and the best ever. We love you Queen in US
Ew
Pasha is..ugh...she should be ashamed of herself. Don't get me started on Alexander.
:)
Pasha Grishuk is just plain tacky. Her skating was tacky and she was tacky in her personal life. Zhulin is a snake. The first time I saw Maia Usova and Evgeni Platov skate together, they both looked like they'd been sprung from prison. I hope that wherever they are today, they have found peace and real love.
The Lord God ordered so: usova lost her the only baby, because she ugly skated with Oksana partner during she was pregnat. platov still is not married and has no kids. Oksana is happy married, has wonderful dauther- one of the best tennis player of America. Everyone has own ticket. Baul is still under podium.
@@helenareev6463 Usova has a 13 year old daughter.
@Loose Wings You have got to be kidding. She was awkward, whacky, she never seemed to have much control when she skated. Evgeny was the true strength of that pair.
@Loose Wings You're seriously talking about the wrong Oksana.
Пишите херню какую то......