@@Jman580 defeat 8 SNOWMANS comes from his Blox fruit where the devs did not know the plural form of snowman as well as every quest just being "defeat 8 enemies" the mix of both of them destroyed eclipses sanity
Thank you for the feedback. It's much appreciated, and as a member of the game's development, I've been aware of these issues, and can only hope that after this video, the rest of the team will feel the same
Calling project Jojo one of the worst Jojo games ever is disingenuous. Project Jojo was actually really good….. for 2019. But the fact they rereleased the game in today’s day and age (while coding npcs in Roblox is now 40x easier) without changing anything about the progression is insane. I’m one of the few people who are really nostalgic for the old PJJ and I’m hoping they fix this because it’s frankly really depressing to see the game I played in middle and high school get treated so poorly by the developers who are making a “remaster”.
Bruh pjj although the first jojo game to have new mechanics from later jojo parts was buggy and unbalanced as heck. The leveling was also bad (idk if the leveling is still the same in this game but there are dummies so i guess). This game in my opinion is just better version of it a long with a waaayyyy better map and gui (idk if its still buggy as heck like pjj 1)
Tbf, while they're clearly conceptually interesting both in manga and anime... they kinda tend to fall off when being adapted to Roblox. (Highway Star is way too cool within it's own arc to justify being the least valuable stand mechanically, and I'm happy it's getting a buff in the upcoming update)
Wait until Eclipse decides to watch Jojos instead of just playing roblox and finds out that not every stand user is running around with star plat, twoh, ger, or kcr, but are in fact using weak stands with interesting abilities and potential.
@@mobboss3440 The joke is the same as the Dragon Ball meme "Dont mess with us Dragon Ball fans, we haven't even watched our own show". Project JoJo actually gave time to "boring" stands like Joubin's stand. Besides PJJ1, what other mainstream JoJo game had stands like Osiris, Heaven's Door, B2M, Ratt, ATF?
@@megumareta6361Heavens door was my all time favorite stand in pjj for a LONG time. If anyone were to be mad about that stand getting the development it deserves, I’m immediately disregarding their opinion as a whole. “Do any of those stands sound like something you would want to use?” Actually sounds like something a pompous brainlet would say. I’m not an eclipse hater, but some of his opinions are just not it sometimes.
I agree with a lot of this video except for the filler stands. You can turn almost any stand into something really busted with the fusion mechanic and a lot of the stands that are filler either gain a lot from fusions or help stronger stands out in other ways. I do wish that the developers added all items that gave you most rare stuff you needed in the shop or allowed less time-consuming ways to get them other than rng.
@bluegung2626so you’re saying the game don’t get fun til the very end after you wasted possibly hours tryna grind to level 50 by beating afk npcs the whole time (and even then do the fusion quest) ????? Yeah no 😭😂✌🏼
@bluegung2626 the thought process of "the game gets good at fusions" is incredibly shit when you consider that fusions require max level to even start trying to get, it's also funny you mention eclipse liking the keyboard jungle YBA movesets when he's quite possibly the biggest hater of the keyboard jungle movesets i've ever seen
The only fun I got out of this was when me and my friends constantly made jokes about how big Gyro’s family would have to be for this game to canonically exist. Also, we were high. So take that as you will.
I'll admit: some of these pitfalls seem to be the result of PJJ2 trying to be similar to PJJ1 (which makes rose tinted shades put in some REAL work) but it does have plans to add PVE in the future. granted whether or not it will remedy this problem is unclear.
The devs said actual PVE is getting added on release, worthiness is getting fixed at some point and every stand is surprisingly viable, except for Manhattan Transfer, Manhattan Transfer sucks and is only good for farming and annoying people at a long distance, besides that I think everything else in the video is fair, the combat is… different, players can be a huge pain sometimes and I truly have no clue what they were doing with the kill credits. Anyways, great video thank you for covering this game.
@@purpledefaultpfp6233 But they buffed it??? There wete no other changes to it besides buffs, I legit haven’t seen anyone complain about ‘Manhattan Transfer is OP!’
You wont see this but im gonna point this out, the dummy part is most likely placeholder quests as this is a really REALLY basic version of the game, and the next update planned is a PvE revamp update!
@@shellofwhatwas1563 to be fair the game's not really "released", it's in open beta, basically an open testing phase it will release with the so called "pve rework" update in a couple of weeks which from what i understand just adds raid bosses? i dont think it will change the dummy beater grind in any way lol. so it wont change much
if they were viable i dont think anyone would be complaining, but there's literally nothing useful or even fun you can do with actung baby or yellow temperance. Reminds me of Fun Fun Fun from pjj1, like yea it was unique but good lord it was so bad and miserable to fight with and against.
@@shipweck6253wait till you find out that in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (yes, these roblox games are based on an anime/manga, surprising i know) characters actually have stands that are weak yet have the potential to interact interestingly with their surroundings and not all have time warping abilities or overwhelming speed and strength. Believe it or not, some fans of this show may appreciate the devs acknowledging and their effort in putting a stand unseen in any other game into their own.
roblox jojo fans when they watch the show and it actually has an large setting amount of interesting and unique abilities used in different ways instead of just people walking around doing "ORA ORA ORA" barrage and time stopping or walking around with the same set of popular stands.
The horrendous grind aside, PJJ2 is actually pretty fun. 90% of the Stand ingame aren’t that useless, some are broken as hell. A tier 2 like Bastet is very good (and annoying) in pvp. However, due to dev’s insight, some stands were indirectly nerfed because their gimmicks didn’t work on dummy i.e MR burn, Bastet magnetism, etc… Also for a game this grindy, at least you know that you grind for a reason, to get to the endgame and see what possible fusions you can make! Btw, if you’re curious, the best grind Stand is Manhattan Transfer. You don’t need to go around punching dummy honestly. Though it’s a tier 4 which takes awhile to get so your point is still valid. All in all, PJJ2 is still stucked in the 2023 roblox game crisis ‘grind more but less content’, i.e Project Mugetsu, Type Soul, Project Slayer, etc… It’s a fun game for me (except the horrendous grinding for hours with transfer) and plus, it’s just in Open Beta, the devs will be improving stuffs as things go on. Hell, next update is regarding to PvE.
@@imperiumVIIor you could spend time doing something actually productive like finding a useful hobby like art or something. If he wants to play a Roblox RPG let him
7:38 If I had a nickle for everytime eclipse encountered a trashcan and annoying jetstream sam cosplayer in a trash JoJo game, i'd have 2 nickles, which isn't alot but its weird it happened twice.
Instead of "kill 8 snowmans", this game instead asks the question "how annoying can i make a single bandit beating quest?" So it tells you "hey! Kill 8 woodmans!" And leaves you to wander around finding them After that, it also asks the question "how can i make progression tedious and boring" then it introduces worthyness! Got a vamp mask, hamon breather, or spin or another spec and you want to use it? Well sike!! You need to do 100 quests without using an arrow ONCE, and if you just used an arrow well goodluck buddy cuz you need to do 100 more
4:52 this is solely to make diverse and cool fusions. I agree it takes to long to unlock it, but that system is where 90% of the fun in this game would come from.
gamrs like thesr make me furious... how cab they so brazebly rip off BLOX FRUIT and get away with it... i dont want yo defeat 8 snowthugs! i want to degeat 8 snowmans! GRAAAAHHHHH
You have no idea how refreshing it is to see roblox players fuck around with the people bothering them and wasting their time instead of getting genuinely pissed, the goosechase bit was hilarious, thank you Eclipse. As for the review, solid points all around. I personally loved old pjj but that was when I was super young so I can say confidently most of my love for the game is 80% nostalgia/lower game expectations. But regardless, I am happy you enjoyed the first tiny bit of the game. Banger video as always.
@@arthurownn. wish i could show others my memory of how glorious it was to make it and participate in the first pjj tournament of power. That old vibe is something none of current so called "good" jojo games could ever come close to so idc bout people hating on the game, never stopped me from having fun
While I dislike how negative this video is, I think it makes sense and I get that PJJ isn't for everyone, it never was, I've personally always enjoyed it and I think PJJ2 has a ton of potential and looks fairly polished so far, I do like that you covered this game though and brought up important things Edit: To answer your question about Bastet, Yellow Temperance, and Emperor, I love them all, They were all featured in Heritage for the Future and are barely featured in other Roblox JoJo games, and with HFTF's popularity, I can genuinely see someone want to play them. Emperor's very common in Roblox JoJo games too, personally, I always thought Iggy's The Fool could be a cool choice if done right Love you, Eclipse PS the moment with the Jetstream Sam cosplayer was funny lol
Hi Eclipse, I'd like to suggest you trying out Visionary Squad. It's a wave defense game where you either play a first player shooter(as a visionite), or as the guy upgrading visionites and placing various buildings that could help clearing the hordes in many different ways(visionary). There isn't much content, just 5 modes/difficulties each one having a new set of enemies(easy with goblins, hard with robots and etc.) and 7 maps to play on, but replay-ability truly makes up for this. There are currently 28 visionite classes and 15 buildings, for context there can only be 4 visionites and 5 buildings in one match, just imagine the amount of teams you can make with that. Each visionite has a unique playstyle due to all 28 visionites having their unique attack type(a gun, a hammer, a bag of money that flies like a boomerang, etc.), passive, ability and a tool. It is completely free to play and there is a barely any grinding, you won't get everything in 5 hours of playing, but it's not like you have to, just buy whatever visionite you like more. I also reccomend you to play with friends or just random people, it's more fun this way and the remaining visionite slots won't be filled with AI bots that aren't terrible, but they aren't perfect. You'll figure the rest if you end up playing it, hope you have a great time
Fun and ironic fact for you Eclipse: In the FAQ channel very specifically stated that their game would not be a bandit beater, yet they somehow did the EXACTLY what they said they wouldn't be doing, same for alot of the other game features
Nah Eclipse, i used to agree with your takes and find them pretty good, but nowadays? L after L, i literally can't find your takes good, it's impossible.
Yes Eclipse, thank you. I love pjj and all, but i agree 100% with everything you said on your video, really hope the devs watch your video and make the game better.
That's the thing, PJJ2 has testers and the devs don't even listen to those testers apparently. I've seen 2 official testers complain how the development of PJJ2 is going.
They’re dragging me back to the asylum, Eclipse. But before I am taken away know this; the eight snowmans will always be there with you, Eclipse. There is no escaping the snowmans. Toodleloo, Eclipse. I’m sure our paths will cross again.
"No one wants to use these stands they are useless why are they in the game" Fusions, the thing that separates pjj from every other jojo game. The fusion system letting you combine useless stands into gods. I still remember max defense mr.pres with hamon for passive regen and a blessing that had a 1/3 chance to deflect dmg so all the glass canons would 1 shot themselves even over heaven stands stood no chance.
Also, PJJ1 was and STILL IS one of the only popular JoJo-games with more than 2 stands from Jojolion... And to care that much about representing the more modern JoJo parts (instead of only having stands from Part 3, 4, 5 & 7) helped it stand out more.
@BobbinRobbin777 pjj only started dying after they tried to balance the game people didn't play pjj cause it was balanced or competitive it was for shits and giggles and making up the dumbest stand combo you could imagine. PJJ was a hilarious game.
project jojo (1 atleast, 2's fusion passives could be better) will always be a good game in my eyes purely because of the fusions. it's just fun to make new comboes and put them to the test against your friends.
the difference between 1 and 2 in fusion is the limit, in pjj1 theres barely any limit to the sub ability fusion, basically allow for a special type of dmg like true dmg and special move, the 2nd pjj also does have those but it seems they are already trying to balance out the fusions already, it seems a bit limited but also theres not much stands for fusion yet, hope more will be added
With all due respect, yellow temperance would be a pretty cool stand solely for the reason that it’s a shapeshifter and seemingly gives you slightly more strength and far more durability than, say, abbachio level strength
Every stand is useful. You just need to plan out a fusion path to use it, and the specs are surprisingly effective, especially ulf yellow temprance fused with vamp + ulf + hamon is surprisingly over powered
while i was watching the video i was literally like "man this is giving me flashbacks to that time he got 2-shotted by jetstream in stand upright, i wonder if smth similar will happen again" and then literally directly after that he got jumped by another jetstream sam cosplayer 😭 this isn't a joke anymore what's with those people dawg
I don't think its supposed to be taken seriously. Its a blast when you just make stupid garbage with friends. I don't think it was ever supposed to be a serious game Also would just like to note the game isn't officially "released" the next update(which is when it officially releases) is the "Progression" update where they are (according to what I've heard) is going to rework the entire leveling system and how you gain levels
If it was supposed to be a stupid fun type game, why did they add so many things that make it unnecessarily tedious and painful to get through, wouldnt that negate the point?
> I don't think its supposed to be taken seriously. People used to say that about Jujutsu Shenanigans and _look what happened to that unbalanced time-wasting mess of a "party" (battlegrounds) game!_ Just say that you like your game despite it being trash and get over it.
for some ungodly reason this game's "mastery" quests are all fetch quests for the most missable items ever, with white particles coming off the things you need to find. you know what else has white particles randomly coming off it? the entirety of the map, which doesn't help when the things can actually spawn in random bushes
correct me if im wrong but there should be a shop you can buy arrows and rokas when you mentioned only having 3 stands i thought huh that doesn't sound right especially when he got to level 50 so i waited to see if they get mentioned but didn't but there is shops you can go to and use money to buy arrows and rokas and with how much money you have you can get a ton of them and roll as many stands as you want plus extra items if you are already aware and didn't bring it up then apologies for bringing this up
I used to adore project jojos when I was younger, I must have grinded that game for a thousand plus hours but looking back on it, i dont know how I farmed all my time away like that...
As biased as I am about pjj1 and 2. I will admit that most of the criticism is valid. Only having dummies as the main pve is sucky. I will say that this is an early release and the main pve is supposed to release in a week or so. Also eclipse really just dissed Bastet??? That shit is the one of the most broken stands (only behind achtung baby.
not even mentioning the power creep... why do I need 250,000 health exactly??? just keep it simple: 100-250 health at low level, attacks don't deal absurd damage in the thousands and have the levelling be wayy less tedious. I don't even notice what effect my stats are having half the time because all the numbers are so big, just keep everything SIMPLE.
The jetstream sam cosplayer thing is so real. Also the only time i had fun in pjj was when i hid and summoned black sabbath (it started walking around and attacked people). I also got banned for no reason really long time ago, and when i confronted the admins on discord, they just made fun of me. So peak!
i honestly liked the original. it was pretty fun making goofy fusions with friends in a ps and having public server wars. a mediocre game even for its time but still enjoyable. the sequel is literally just even worse though lmao. the item spawns are in absolutely random locations and are sometimes completely unnoticeable, and the map is somehow worse than the original (larger for no reason with even more empty space + the overwhelming amount of details and textures caused random fps drops). the only thing i even liked is how they included the same background music from the original (but they're just prexisting jojo osts anyway.) i will say that the encyclopedia mechanic is pretty good though.
i imagine theyre gonna add more item spawn locations + increase the spawn rate on full release also once harvest gets added its gonna be a breeze to get items
I personally liked project jojo but I ain't going to convince people to like it since again it's not the best JoJo game ever. I just personally enjoyed the fusion combat since I'm always boogled by the fusions I don't expect to be strong. I'm talking about the first game btw. Idk wtf they were thinking for pjj2
Me and my friends just deadass played farmed for a stand and started killing each other we didnt even realize there were levels or quests we all just assumed it was kinda like ABD
While the game is incredibly boring now and kinda sucks. It might not be later because as it says it is in "Open Beta" I think your criticisms are completely valid but. What I am trying to say is it is in open beta so it might be better later. which I hope because I have extreme nostalgia for that game and met one of my oldest friends in the game
@@yikebot_5525Have you ever played PJJ1? The combat in PJJ2 is 100% more enjoyable for me. They are improving from PJJ1 by making needed balancing changes and content. The grind is still bad doe.
the only way I can see this game not be terrible after leaving "open beta" (it has 7 gamepasses so it'S not really an open beta) is that the game gets COMPLETELY remade, and not a copy paste of the old project jojo. PJJ2 is literally just the Overwatch 2 of Jojo Roblox games
The game was soft launched everything intended on release is not in the game yet . i hope the devs take note of what players have to say so it can improve
I would wanna use yellow temperance I am a die hard rubber soul fan I even main him heritage for the future, it is so sad to see my favourite jojo character be disrespectd like this I will never forgive you eclipse
Don't disrespect PJJ, it was there when others weren't. PJJ walked so ABD, YBA and other games could run. Edit: Nvm this new game lowkey shit they r disrespecting the legacy of the founder so bad.
@@strongHORNET112yeah that happens when you release a game with buggy code in early 2016 and then keep adding onto that spaghetti code in hopes that everything still works
If I had a nickel for every single time eclipse got killed by a random jet stream Sam I would have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice
So you're telling me that they couldn't even add just a basic punching or melee attack with a few moves for the npcs? The game would be ass regardless but the fact they are this lazy and you're defending it makes absolutely zero sense.
Why not add the system they have in mind in the beta, would be better to get feedback from that than from something that won’t even be in your game after the beta phase
@ they can’t just “add the system they have in mind.” Thats not how development works. They’re going to add it. They chose to let people play before it was there. The problem is that you’re required to do anything placeholder before the PvE is done. They really should’ve just let people mess around and had a statement saying that progression would come in at release to get beta testing data.
@@HolyKac In his defense, what the game really offers is locked behind random mind numbing grinding that isn’t going to be there in the end. He didn’t really have evidence that it would be any fun enough to be worth it.
Oh. My. Goodness. Usually I can't be bothered to comment on Eclipse's videos but this is truely mind-numbing. I'll use this as an opportunity to criticise everything I find wrong or just plain putrid about this channel. Also, pick apart my grammar as much as you can to try and devalue my arguement 😅 1. This video is not a game review. Firstly, it could be argued that Project JoJo 2 is not even a game at all, as it is still in its early development. Eclipse, if you're now yelling like a soyjack, "THEN WHY IS IT, ON FXXKING ROBLOX!!!!" It's a PLAYTEST, to test the waters and to identify and fix bugs. It helps smoothen out the development process, while ensuring that future updates and resources can be allocated towards more pressing matters, such as I don't know PVE? 😅 2. The way you approach "criticising", and covering games. Many games are developed by amateur, young and up-and-coming talents, that have dreams and desires of working on bigger projects or improving their craft. Your reckless "critiques" of calling games "trash" and a "waste of time" deter your audience from exploring games, games that have the potential to improve or are not fully-baked yet. The developers of such games in turn LOSE out on potential opportunities and additionally get a bad scar on their resumes and records from the inevitable falling apart of their project. You may retort that, it isn't your responsibility as a creator to manipulate perceptions of games to be more positive, and i would agree. HOWEVER, the fine line between "criticising" and plain "insulting" games becomes blurred when you ultimately throw around and trample on the efforts on developers. I understand villifying P2W aspects of games, gambling and micro-transactions, but to so adamantly and firmly trash on a lacking tutorial or bad AI for example is just uncalled for and toxic. I'm not trying to be some moral arbiter, but if this is how you want to run your channel, by recklessly insulting the efforts of child and amateur talents, and cultivating a culture of pseudo-intellectual "critics" that laugh blindly at the expense of other's failings, then you're honestly more of a waste of time than playing Roblox (TRUE) 3. Your "idiots" segment. I forgot the name, idgaf 😂 but this mainly encompasses your fragile ego and the way you treat your community and your critics. Firstly, can we just address how comically insane it is to compile thousands of comments from little children, place their opinions on blast, and proceed to logically deconstruct, insult, ridicule and mock in front of your hundreds of thousands of impressionable viewers? "Damn! Holy crap the middle aged soyjack won again in an argument against a 5 year old kid!! NO WAY HE MADE FUN OF PUNCTUATION HAHA!!" Chills. Literal chills. You're so cool bro. I don't want to be a Social Warrior but to flaunt your fickle victories over little children on the internet is not a good look bro... 😔 Final comments: If you're planning to put me in your next "idiots" video, PLEASE do my comment justice, and address every aspect of it you coward. (Punctuation just for you my love 😝) Also loosen up a bit, all that pent-up stress and anger is getting to your hairline 🤓 I await your response. Do better.
Completely agree. This entire video is ironically more of a time waster than the games Eclipse criticizes His first argument is that beating up dummies isn’t fun. Sure that’s true, but that’s… already planned to be reworked into a pve system???? Is eclipse blissfully ignorant or is he choosing to ignore that to add more watch time to his video? Honestly I don’t know. His second argument is that there are too many filler stands. 2 issues with this argument: 1. No stands are considered “filler” because they are actually viable in combat and fusion (I do concede the fusion quest is too tedious though, but that’s beside the point.) 2. There is no definition to “filler,” is The Emperor considered filler when Hol Horse is one of the most loved characters? Where does eclipse define a stand as crossing the line of filler? Even if we take this argument at Eclipse’s highest ground and assume that all the filler stands were useless, that’s not up for Eclipse to criticize. That’s like me going into YBA and saying the game is bad because it has Beach Boy and Six Pistols. This argument is legitimately worse than some featured on DDOS. His third argument is that farming stands is too hard and cluttered by filler stands. For some reason, I guess he’s never read the encyclopedia page on the Requiem Arrow which is GIVEN to you at level 50? They aren’t even that rare to find across the map. Now even the requiem arrow has rng sure, but that argument is completely non-unique. I contend that you can say this about virtually any jojo game. Even in YBA, arrow chances for a specific stand are like 2-1%, and I’m not even gonna bring up the skins system. Eclipse, your arguments about this game being an rng game while not batting an eye towards other jojo games, which are arguably worse, are honestly sickening. Worse off, you don’t even give any criticism. Here, I’ll do your job for you: increase the worthiness cap for mid+ game players to GUARENTEE a decent tier. Boom, I’ve said more than your entire argument in one sentence. Next, Eclipse argues he can’t win vs maxed out players who kill him and steal his dummies. Once again, this argument is completely non unique. In YBA, you virtually cannot win if you are low level because you have HALF their hp and HALF your moveset. The term “RKING” is so prevalent in the YBA community that you named your guild off of it. Sure, I acknowledge that they need new leveling areas, but when you say in the video “do you think I have any chance of progressing?” Yes, I do. It’s called finding a new server. You use this false dilemma fallacy to polarize the situation as “I level up, or I can’t.” No.. it should be “I can just choose to ignore these kids and leave the server because I am a mature adult.” Genuinely baffled because this argument has to be rage bait. Then you talk about the PVP. This is the only argument I agree with, yet, you’ve provided no advice and instead chose to insult the developers. Simply give every stand The Emperor’s “roll” ability and Star Platinum’s “block” ability and add a parry function and block bar. Give these two respective stands buffs to compensate for losing their unique ability. I’ve said more in those two sentences than you have in your 11 minute video. Do better.
@@smallimmortals7477 LMFAO, I totally agree on the "filler" stands take, when I heard it I genuinely just sat still and let that sink it, maybe he had a rough week idk, dropped a few flags from his "flag-twirling" or whatever but it was so comically absurd and ignorant. The fully-grown adult screaming and whining about wanting the "better" stands without taking the time to realise, learn, understand that the more common stands are not necessarily "weaker" and are DEFINITELY NOT filler, as they contribute to the rich and diverse combinations and fusions possible within the game. I doubt this will be in DDOS though, the arguments presented seem too concrete and complicated for him to rebutt, and considering his fragile ego I doubt he'd acknowledge he was so fundamentally and starkly wrong.
Yeah, nothing beats a game that has trash pvp, quests in which you 10 kill dummies that don't even fight back over and over and over again and waiting 7 hours to pick an item that has 0.0000000000000001% chance to spawn. Peak gameplay
@@TonioOcram uh... what? unless you're talking about pjj2, the original pjj has like, none of those issues? you can get max level in like an hour if you afk with the sun (a tier 1 stand) in the ice lake, letting you gain money at the same time for stands. also, we aren't in a modded abd so the spawnrates are not like that, they're actually normal and more needed items (like dio diary, req arrows, corpse parts) are guaranteed from their respective boss. the pvp part is purely up to preference and i won't bother trying to defend something that depends on preference. so like, if you were talking about pjj2 then just ignore this lmao yea the game is horrid, but if you were talking about the og pjj then i think you have the wrong game in mind !
i usually love your takes but i absolutley can't agree with this, PJJ had one of the highest peaks of all time, most of the mechanics were amaizing it was just a bit clunky.
@@coos3964 yea but, that’s one thing in a sea of bad stuff, and it was still flawed with some fusions being outright unbeatable before the combat update. Also that’s only one mechanic, what others are you talking about?
@@shipweck6253 Making unbeatable fusions was the fun part, the game actually went to shit after the combat balance update imo. the pvp system they had wasnt good enough to make a well rounded "balanced" game
I played a lot of project jojo, mostly because I just really enjoyed the fusion mechanic, and the creative things you can do with it. I wish there was something like that in other games, without the grinding.
For the comments saying its nostalgic, i was also a max level lifeless kid in this game 5 or 6 years ago or whatever i played it a lot and i can say that the game was always trash(i realized it when it got data reset twice thank god), back then this was not only the best jojo game but the best anime game on roblox itself. Do you know how much time stop felt special back then now almost every jojo game has it and they seem nothing special. It's just like how we get nostalgic to the flash games we played a long time ago but when you look back and find that game its disappointing and they were trash, they were always trash you being nostalgic does not change the fact that you will either use an auto clicker and go afk or manually farm dummies with no brain activity. But i will give it to them they had too many stands which was really nice but the pvp still sucked you could literally get 16x damage boost with silver chariot and use an undodgeable mouse aimed attack to one shot people, they even had an auto target barrage like what is the point of all those stands and moves if all the pvp is about who clicks the other one first like a fricking gun duel irl
The funniest thing about this is the review up to the beta testing released. They devs made it CLEAR that there were no bandits to beat and look at what happened. To be fair though they didn’t say anything about dummy beating soooooooo🤷♂️
I agree with most of the statements in the video. The concept of the game sounds very intriguing and I'm pretty hype for what the full release will have since they said there will be more content, and it also seems like there will be some kind of story line of sorts, and a gamemode I'm excited for is gangwars.
to the people shitting on eclipse, you guys gotta remember 1. people have OPINIONS, let them have them 😭 2. eclipse didnt play during the so called "golden ages" when pjj was dominant. he started with yba, and yeah thats honestly fair, i wouldnt like pjj either if i was in his position. 3. just because eclipse doesnt like something i like or you all like, that does NOT mean yall gotta raise pitchforks, like dont get me wrong i still think pjj laid the ground work for all jojo games to come after it and is one of the best jojo games out there, but like i said in point 1, opinions. they exist, let people have them. ok thats all thanks
yo im a fan of ur videos keep up but dont listen to him at all hes lying about stuff to farm views i played it and its the most f2p friendly and least grindy jojo game rn
just like pjj 1 the main fun things are gang wars and fusions, idk if trading is in this but MAYBE also that if you're into it, too bad the main progression is still less than a bandit beater but I guess they're updating that
Anything is better than punching dummy for 1 hours straight. At least blox fruit have the decency to add movement and skill to npc despite the fact that no one like blox fruit pve.
the combat and stand moves are actually so clunky and low quality it confuses me. i don't even remember old project jojo feeling that clunky. i really hope they rework the combat/stands because the map is super cool
@@flappyflap2693 I don’t think a spec would make the poor coding better. All moves, projectiles and pilots were so choppy and felt so off. You know it’s bad when the game has less fluid combat than abd did 5 years ago
Seriously the comments from this guy are so objective considering the stage of development the game is in: It is a demo and not meant to represent real progression. The NEXT UPDATE is meant to fix this exact problem
i will not tolerate emperor slander. the gun is mightier than the sword !
Even star platinum’s eyeball is stronger than that gun
what a wonderful quote!
This was the first thing i thought, no one disses the stand of my goat Hol horse
Blox JoJo defeat 8 Ice Snowmans.......Eclipse you know what you need to do
Can someone tell me where the 8 snowmen reference comes from?
@@Jman580 defeat 8 SNOWMANS comes from his Blox fruit where the devs did not know the plural form of snowman as well as every quest just being "defeat 8 enemies" the mix of both of them destroyed eclipses sanity
@@Jman580 blox fruits... now defeat 8 snowmans.
@@ForgeSakai blox fruit*
the fact taht there used to be a game named jojo blox
Thank you for the feedback. It's much appreciated, and as a member of the game's development, I've been aware of these issues, and can only hope that after this video, the rest of the team will feel the same
your game is cool i hope your team makes it better
@@na4543no its not
It's his opinion bro, please don't judge others if they don't share the same opinion as you do. @@ZazaEnjoyer-w9p
@@ZazaEnjoyer-w9pyou are not 😏
@@robinlin9397booo this guy stinks
Calling project Jojo one of the worst Jojo games ever is disingenuous. Project Jojo was actually really good….. for 2019. But the fact they rereleased the game in today’s day and age (while coding npcs in Roblox is now 40x easier) without changing anything about the progression is insane. I’m one of the few people who are really nostalgic for the old PJJ and I’m hoping they fix this because it’s frankly really depressing to see the game I played in middle and high school get treated so poorly by the developers who are making a “remaster”.
Rose-tinted glasses
lol pjj was an unbalanced mess that constantly went through data resets and meaningless system reworks
Ddos pls
Even back then, when i played the game alot, i knew the game was kind of bad, still the stand fusion system was pretty fun
Bruh pjj although the first jojo game to have new mechanics from later jojo parts was buggy and unbalanced as heck. The leveling was also bad (idk if the leveling is still the same in this game but there are dummies so i guess). This game in my opinion is just better version of it a long with a waaayyyy better map and gui (idk if its still buggy as heck like pjj 1)
"lame stands" people with no attention span when the ability is relatively interesting and not just a fast guy that punches
that wasn't even his fucking argument
Yeah
Tbf, while they're clearly conceptually interesting both in manga and anime... they kinda tend to fall off when being adapted to Roblox.
(Highway Star is way too cool within it's own arc to justify being the least valuable stand mechanically, and I'm happy it's getting a buff in the upcoming update)
@BobbinRobbin777 highway is insanely strong in this and extremely scary
@@nathank3407 i have a vamp mastery + highway star build for that insane lifeleech, it's really dumb and i love it
Wait until Eclipse decides to watch Jojos instead of just playing roblox and finds out that not every stand user is running around with star plat, twoh, ger, or kcr, but are in fact using weak stands with interesting abilities and potential.
Eclipse has watched jojo tho . what are you talkin about
@@mobboss3440 bro didnt get the joke
@@ВладЮдин-м5г wth is the joke here
@@mobboss3440 The joke is the same as the Dragon Ball meme "Dont mess with us Dragon Ball fans, we haven't even watched our own show". Project JoJo actually gave time to "boring" stands like Joubin's stand. Besides PJJ1, what other mainstream JoJo game had stands like Osiris, Heaven's Door, B2M, Ratt, ATF?
@@megumareta6361Heavens door was my all time favorite stand in pjj for a LONG time. If anyone were to be mad about that stand getting the development it deserves, I’m immediately disregarding their opinion as a whole. “Do any of those stands sound like something you would want to use?” Actually sounds like something a pompous brainlet would say. I’m not an eclipse hater, but some of his opinions are just not it sometimes.
I agree with a lot of this video except for the filler stands. You can turn almost any stand into something really busted with the fusion mechanic and a lot of the stands that are filler either gain a lot from fusions or help stronger stands out in other ways. I do wish that the developers added all items that gave you most rare stuff you needed in the shop or allowed less time-consuming ways to get them other than rng.
This
they don't understand the fun comes from the fusions, ofc they prefer the yba 19 moves and beatdowns per stand bullshit
People would have tried it out if it was a reward for level 50 instead of having to grind even more.
@bluegung2626so you’re saying the game don’t get fun til the very end after you wasted possibly hours tryna grind to level 50 by beating afk npcs the whole time (and even then do the fusion quest) ????? Yeah no 😭😂✌🏼
@bluegung2626 the thought process of "the game gets good at fusions" is incredibly shit when you consider that fusions require max level to even start trying to get, it's also funny you mention eclipse liking the keyboard jungle YBA movesets when he's quite possibly the biggest hater of the keyboard jungle movesets i've ever seen
The only fun I got out of this was when me and my friends constantly made jokes about how big Gyro’s family would have to be for this game to canonically exist. Also, we were high. So take that as you will.
LOL
I think everything can be made fun when you are high and with friends.
@@gamingmoyai3950 nurse joy walked so gyro could run
the only correct way to play pjj2
@@Alex_Fishman sakura stand...
DECAYING WINTER(day 70)
he's waiting for u to get to 100 days
it’s just like the grind for eclipse ultrakill
can't wait to see him rage over fighting normal scavs when there are people doing solo EVAC with damned
Can’t wait for him to criticize how beginner unfriendly it is.
He already said he wont review it 😂
My friend scammed me in project jojo once. You could say his heart was hollow, like a bowl.
whoever that person was, they were not your friend
@@pulsargeistIndeed, they were a very dirty bowl that damages you with their doo doo energy
How did they scan you
you guys realise they said this to make a bowl joke right
@@not-a-thing6168they ask for borrow stand since they already build the trust and then bam, got looted and lost a tier 7/8 stand
I'll admit: some of these pitfalls seem to be the result of PJJ2 trying to be similar to PJJ1 (which makes rose tinted shades put in some REAL work) but it does have plans to add PVE in the future. granted whether or not it will remedy this problem is unclear.
The devs said actual PVE is getting added on release, worthiness is getting fixed at some point and every stand is surprisingly viable, except for Manhattan Transfer, Manhattan Transfer sucks and is only good for farming and annoying people at a long distance, besides that I think everything else in the video is fair, the combat is… different, players can be a huge pain sometimes and I truly have no clue what they were doing with the kill credits. Anyways, great video thank you for covering this game.
The baby is great for messing with people too
the combat is genuinely bad, and manhattan was actually incredibly busted before they made changes to it
@@purpledefaultpfp6233 But they buffed it??? There wete no other changes to it besides buffs, I legit haven’t seen anyone complain about ‘Manhattan Transfer is OP!’
@@purpledefaultpfp6233 "bad" is subjective, get ratio'd
You wont see this but im gonna point this out, the dummy part is most likely placeholder quests as this is a really REALLY basic version of the game, and the next update planned is a PvE revamp update!
its not a revamp/rework update, they're just adding more stuff to do while leveling up. dummies are not going
@ajojofann yes but still most of the grinding will be pve at some point and its a good thing.
@@Xenoverse-addicted-boi all of the grinding is pve already, you just kill dummies over and over, thats player vs environment
These devs could have just... released a finished game? That would be nice
@@shellofwhatwas1563 to be fair the game's not really "released", it's in open beta, basically an open testing phase
it will release with the so called "pve rework" update in a couple of weeks which from what i understand just adds raid bosses? i dont think it will change the dummy beater grind in any way lol. so it wont change much
What if you wanna make stands that no one has ever made in jojo roblox games yet.. but God said "stop putting useless stands 😠"
if they were viable i dont think anyone would be complaining, but there's literally nothing useful or even fun you can do with actung baby or yellow temperance. Reminds me of Fun Fun Fun from pjj1, like yea it was unique but good lord it was so bad and miserable to fight with and against.
@@shipweck6253 Stone Human spec solo's
@@shipweck6253fun fun fun was used for some amazing fusions. alsp yellow temp and achtung baby are both great sub stands in pjj2
@@shipweck6253wait till you find out that in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (yes, these roblox games are based on an anime/manga, surprising i know) characters actually have stands that are weak yet have the potential to interact interestingly with their surroundings and not all have time warping abilities or overwhelming speed and strength. Believe it or not, some fans of this show may appreciate the devs acknowledging and their effort in putting a stand unseen in any other game into their own.
@@shipweck6253 woah you can make fun actung baby fusions
“Onto the bad stuff..”
ITS BEEN 2 MINUTES
"Eclipse, you dont understand! The game gets fun after you spend 72 hours unlocking the ability to oneshot new players!" -Some PJJ player, probably
not even an hour and we already got a deadass saying that in the comments.
@crimson0987 do you know what deadass even means??? wdym " a deadass" 😭
@@arlyborgus i think he meant a "a dude deadass saying", he just forgot to put in the word "dude"
Wrddddd
tbf I love the whole fusion sistem, on paper that is since the way they implemented it is dogshit
Eclipse when the game isnt YBA
Fr
roblox jojo fans when they watch the show and it actually has an large setting amount of interesting and unique abilities used in different ways instead of just people walking around doing "ORA ORA ORA" barrage and time stopping or walking around with the same set of popular stands.
The horrendous grind aside, PJJ2 is actually pretty fun. 90% of the Stand ingame aren’t that useless, some are broken as hell. A tier 2 like Bastet is very good (and annoying) in pvp. However, due to dev’s insight, some stands were indirectly nerfed because their gimmicks didn’t work on dummy i.e MR burn, Bastet magnetism, etc… Also for a game this grindy, at least you know that you grind for a reason, to get to the endgame and see what possible fusions you can make!
Btw, if you’re curious, the best grind Stand is Manhattan Transfer. You don’t need to go around punching dummy honestly. Though it’s a tier 4 which takes awhile to get so your point is still valid.
All in all, PJJ2 is still stucked in the 2023 roblox game crisis ‘grind more but less content’, i.e Project Mugetsu, Type Soul, Project Slayer, etc…
It’s a fun game for me (except the horrendous grinding for hours with transfer) and plus, it’s just in Open Beta, the devs will be improving stuffs as things go on. Hell, next update is regarding to PvE.
I Saw some people saying that the dummies are only placeholders for now since the game is only in OPEN BETA and hasnt even officially released yet
Eclipse doesn't watch Jojo or understand what Dio said when calling stands useless which are not
Everyone, lets point and laugh at this fool, they had the gull to like a game on roblox, hahahahah
Actually a horrible take. Your time is better spent playing an ACTUAL rpg with polish, but hey man, to each their own
@@imperiumVIIor you could spend time doing something actually productive like finding a useful hobby like art or something. If he wants to play a Roblox RPG let him
Yup, I totally agree! Everytime you post a video I just get this rush of excitement! Ahh! Ahh! Please never stop Eclipse~! I love you so so so much
Dawg 😭
glaze
what possessed you to comment this
Goresh fans have arrived once again
Average eclipse fan ngl😭🙏
7:38 If I had a nickle for everytime eclipse encountered a trashcan and annoying jetstream sam cosplayer in a trash JoJo game, i'd have 2 nickles, which isn't alot but its weird it happened twice.
I was about to make a comment about this lol thank you for doing it with the nice Phineas and Ferb reference there
Instead of "kill 8 snowmans", this game instead asks the question "how annoying can i make a single bandit beating quest?" So it tells you "hey! Kill 8 woodmans!" And leaves you to wander around finding them
After that, it also asks the question "how can i make progression tedious and boring" then it introduces worthyness! Got a vamp mask, hamon breather, or spin or another spec and you want to use it? Well sike!! You need to do 100 quests without using an arrow ONCE, and if you just used an arrow well goodluck buddy cuz you need to do 100 more
4:52 this is solely to make diverse and cool fusions. I agree it takes to long to unlock it, but that system is where 90% of the fun in this game would come from.
So that just makes it another one of those, “it’s so fun at the very end though!” And everything before is just mindless sloppy suffering
@@guy7258 both you and the op are correct, yes
@@guy7258 so its like YBA then
imagine crying because you have to spend like 1 hour to hit max lvl and fuse crazy how you're talking when you haven't even played the game @@guy7258
9:37
gamrs like thesr make me furious... how cab they so brazebly rip off BLOX FRUIT and get away with it... i dont want yo defeat 8 snowthugs! i want to degeat 8 snowmans! GRAAAAHHHHH
Yu Tell me iT has NO haightgt sonmean ? Eclipse sould co back to sol rng's
I did not realize this was sarcasm lol
@lucasnicholson-endermanyt4433if the obvious misspelling wasn't already a big hint...
Project jojo is definitely something that you need to grow on to. Doesn’t deny that it’s shit tho
Finally, a reasonable comment
Makes sense I guess
"learned taste" ahh game lmao
10:18 Defeat 8 snowman mentioned lets gooooo
Welp, a W is a W
snowmans*
Please eclipse, project in my jojo
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crime: this
sentence: death
@@flappyflap2693 Yeah he gotta go ngl
You have no idea how refreshing it is to see roblox players fuck around with the people bothering them and wasting their time instead of getting genuinely pissed, the goosechase bit was hilarious, thank you Eclipse.
As for the review, solid points all around. I personally loved old pjj but that was when I was super young so I can say confidently most of my love for the game is 80% nostalgia/lower game expectations. But regardless, I am happy you enjoyed the first tiny bit of the game. Banger video as always.
hold on a second... is that the pocolooco avatar from the video can you beat steel ball run as pocolooco??
I asked myself that question
even if this game was just a baseplate i'd still play it... its a diffrent kind of sentiment you couldn't understand ...
That glazing is insane
@@arthurownn. if you werent here for peak project jojo like 5 years ago you actually dont understand. its pure nostaliga
@@arthurownn. wish i could show others my memory of how glorious it was to make it and participate in the first pjj tournament of power. That old vibe is something none of current so called "good" jojo games could ever come close to so idc bout people hating on the game, never stopped me from having fun
@@arthurownn.Eclipse meatrider
Guh
When you use hallowed true hamonic achtung man requiem; thats when you finally understand the game and its beauty.😤🤩
dont you mean hallowed true hamonic achtung cream requiem?
no? cream isn't in the game yet hes talking about achtung baby sub on boy II man@@shipweck6253
While I dislike how negative this video is, I think it makes sense and I get that PJJ isn't for everyone, it never was, I've personally always enjoyed it and I think PJJ2 has a ton of potential and looks fairly polished so far, I do like that you covered this game though and brought up important things
Edit: To answer your question about Bastet, Yellow Temperance, and Emperor, I love them all, They were all featured in Heritage for the Future and are barely featured in other Roblox JoJo games, and with HFTF's popularity, I can genuinely see someone want to play them. Emperor's very common in Roblox JoJo games too, personally, I always thought Iggy's The Fool could be a cool choice if done right
Love you, Eclipse
PS the moment with the Jetstream Sam cosplayer was funny lol
7:32 Most Jetstream Sam Roblox cosplayers haven't even played Metal Gear lmao
Hi Eclipse, I'd like to suggest you trying out Visionary Squad. It's a wave defense game where you either play a first player shooter(as a visionite), or as the guy upgrading visionites and placing various buildings that could help clearing the hordes in many different ways(visionary). There isn't much content, just 5 modes/difficulties each one having a new set of enemies(easy with goblins, hard with robots and etc.) and 7 maps to play on, but replay-ability truly makes up for this. There are currently 28 visionite classes and 15 buildings, for context there can only be 4 visionites and 5 buildings in one match, just imagine the amount of teams you can make with that. Each visionite has a unique playstyle due to all 28 visionites having their unique attack type(a gun, a hammer, a bag of money that flies like a boomerang, etc.), passive, ability and a tool. It is completely free to play and there is a barely any grinding, you won't get everything in 5 hours of playing, but it's not like you have to, just buy whatever visionite you like more. I also reccomend you to play with friends or just random people, it's more fun this way and the remaining visionite slots won't be filled with AI bots that aren't terrible, but they aren't perfect. You'll figure the rest if you end up playing it, hope you have a great time
Fun and ironic fact for you Eclipse: In the FAQ channel very specifically stated that their game would not be a bandit beater, yet they somehow did the EXACTLY what they said they wouldn't be doing, same for alot of the other game features
No...bandits fight back
@@rebeccadavis3185defeat 8 snowmans
@@rebeccadavis3185 the dummies fight you with pure boredom and aura
its not finished lmao
Its an open beta
running from the jetstream cosplayer was probably the most interested eclipse was when playing this game
Nah Eclipse, i used to agree with your takes and find them pretty good, but nowadays? L after L, i literally can't find your takes good, it's impossible.
Ong
bro fell off HARD
Yes Eclipse, thank you. I love pjj and all, but i agree 100% with everything you said on your video, really hope the devs watch your video and make the game better.
eclipse when an unfinished game in testing needs testing
Imagine if eclipse got a low taper fade
That's the thing, PJJ2 has testers and the devs don't even listen to those testers apparently. I've seen 2 official testers complain how the development of PJJ2 is going.
@@RommekePommeke that really sucks, i hoped it would be different
defending garbage is crazy
If this gets on DDOS i'm getting a Eclipse tattoo on me 🙏
Wont lie even with all its issues seeing the sequal to my first ever jojo game be so faithful to the original is pretty nice
They’re dragging me back to the asylum, Eclipse. But before I am taken away know this; the eight snowmans will always be there with you, Eclipse. There is no escaping the snowmans. Toodleloo, Eclipse. I’m sure our paths will cross again.
if the game has 8 snowmen, its peak. best game on Roblox 11/10 I'm going to play it right now
defeat 8 dummies
Defeat 8 dummys
We got another 8 snowmans quest before gta6.
Punching statues for an hour. Peak gameplay.
"No one wants to use these stands they are useless why are they in the game" Fusions, the thing that separates pjj from every other jojo game. The fusion system letting you combine useless stands into gods. I still remember max defense mr.pres with hamon for passive regen and a blessing that had a 1/3 chance to deflect dmg so all the glass canons would 1 shot themselves even over heaven stands stood no chance.
Lord I remember echoes cream with the holy flame to literally shred people
Also, PJJ1 was and STILL IS one of the only popular JoJo-games with more than 2 stands from Jojolion... And to care that much about representing the more modern JoJo parts (instead of only having stands from Part 3, 4, 5 & 7) helped it stand out more.
@BobbinRobbin777 pjj only started dying after they tried to balance the game people didn't play pjj cause it was balanced or competitive it was for shits and giggles and making up the dumbest stand combo you could imagine. PJJ was a hilarious game.
project jojo (1 atleast, 2's fusion passives could be better) will always be a good game in my eyes purely because of the fusions.
it's just fun to make new comboes and put them to the test against your friends.
the difference between 1 and 2 in fusion is the limit, in pjj1 theres barely any limit to the sub ability fusion, basically allow for a special type of dmg like true dmg and special move, the 2nd pjj also does have those but it seems they are already trying to balance out the fusions already, it seems a bit limited but also theres not much stands for fusion yet, hope more will be added
With all due respect, yellow temperance would be a pretty cool stand solely for the reason that it’s a shapeshifter and seemingly gives you slightly more strength and far more durability than, say, abbachio level strength
the fact you have to use like 300+ arrows combined with worthiness just to get a non useless stand is wild
Every stand is useful. You just need to plan out a fusion path to use it, and the specs are surprisingly effective, especially ulf yellow temprance fused with vamp + ulf + hamon is surprisingly over powered
PJJ1 is REALLY FUN when making new fusions to counter other people, or just making strong fusions in general.
"now onto the bad stuff" 9 minutes left
while i was watching the video i was literally like "man this is giving me flashbacks to that time he got 2-shotted by jetstream in stand upright, i wonder if smth similar will happen again" and then literally directly after that he got jumped by another jetstream sam cosplayer 😭
this isn't a joke anymore what's with those people dawg
I don't think its supposed to be taken seriously. Its a blast when you just make stupid garbage with friends. I don't think it was ever supposed to be a serious game Also would just like to note the game isn't officially "released" the next update(which is when it officially releases) is the "Progression" update where they are (according to what I've heard) is going to rework the entire leveling system and how you gain levels
If it was supposed to be a stupid fun type game, why did they add so many things that make it unnecessarily tedious and painful to get through, wouldnt that negate the point?
> I don't think its supposed to be taken seriously.
People used to say that about Jujutsu Shenanigans and _look what happened to that unbalanced time-wasting mess of a "party" (battlegrounds) game!_
Just say that you like your game despite it being trash and get over it.
its not a revamp/rework update, they're just adding more stuff to do while leveling up. dummies are not going
Neh he skipped over the fact that it's a open beta.
I'ts just to get player feedback so they can work on those problems before release.
@BobbinRobbin777Yet it have a lot of players yikes
for some ungodly reason this game's "mastery" quests are all fetch quests for the most missable items ever, with white particles coming off the things you need to find. you know what else has white particles randomly coming off it? the entirety of the map, which doesn't help when the things can actually spawn in random bushes
correct me if im wrong but there should be a shop you can buy arrows and rokas when you mentioned only having 3 stands i thought huh that doesn't sound right especially when he got to level 50 so i waited to see if they get mentioned but didn't but there is shops you can go to and use money to buy arrows and rokas and with how much money you have you can get a ton of them and roll as many stands as you want plus extra items if you are already aware and didn't bring it up then apologies for bringing this up
I used to adore project jojos when I was younger, I must have grinded that game for a thousand plus hours but looking back on it, i dont know how I farmed all my time away like that...
As biased as I am about pjj1 and 2. I will admit that most of the criticism is valid. Only having dummies as the main pve is sucky. I will say that this is an early release and the main pve is supposed to release in a week or so. Also eclipse really just dissed Bastet??? That shit is the one of the most broken stands (only behind achtung baby.
The game gets fun when you make broken fusions like "Ultimate true stone rock experience requiem" with nearly a million effective hp (counting heals)
not even mentioning the power creep... why do I need 250,000 health exactly??? just keep it simple: 100-250 health at low level, attacks don't deal absurd damage in the thousands and have the levelling be wayy less tedious. I don't even notice what effect my stats are having half the time because all the numbers are so big, just keep everything SIMPLE.
Something about big numbers giving dopamine i guess? But yea i dont like it either
The jetstream sam cosplayer thing is so real.
Also the only time i had fun in pjj was when i hid and summoned black sabbath (it started walking around and attacked people).
I also got banned for no reason really long time ago, and when i confronted the admins on discord, they just made fun of me. So peak!
i honestly liked the original. it was pretty fun making goofy fusions with friends in a ps and having public server wars. a mediocre game even for its time but still enjoyable.
the sequel is literally just even worse though lmao. the item spawns are in absolutely random locations and are sometimes completely unnoticeable, and the map is somehow worse than the original (larger for no reason with even more empty space + the overwhelming amount of details and textures caused random fps drops). the only thing i even liked is how they included the same background music from the original (but they're just prexisting jojo osts anyway.) i will say that the encyclopedia mechanic is pretty good though.
i imagine theyre gonna add more item spawn locations + increase the spawn rate on full release
also once harvest gets added its gonna be a breeze to get items
god i hate thr fucking leaves. if you go inside any bush or tree say goodbye to your frames. it's actually the worst decision they ever made.
Man! That looks fun. I want to play this game!
i think eclipse is fantano/needledrop of roblox jojo game
7:38 Bro referenced the Jetstream Sam cosplayer from the Stand Upright Rebooted video 😭🙏
I personally liked project jojo but I ain't going to convince people to like it since again it's not the best JoJo game ever. I just personally enjoyed the fusion combat since I'm always boogled by the fusions I don't expect to be strong.
I'm talking about the first game btw. Idk wtf they were thinking for pjj2
The gun is Cassidy overwatch, good in my book lol
We're going yoga with this one, Matt.
Me and my friends just deadass played farmed for a stand and started killing each other we didnt even realize there were levels or quests we all just assumed it was kinda like ABD
While the game is incredibly boring now and kinda sucks. It might not be later because as it says it is in "Open Beta" I think your criticisms are completely valid but. What I am trying to say is it is in open beta so it might be better later. which I hope because I have extreme nostalgia for that game and met one of my oldest friends in the game
You can't season and cook junk to make it good, this game would have to change out its ingredients entirely.
@@yikebot_5525Have you ever played PJJ1? The combat in PJJ2 is 100% more enjoyable for me. They are improving from PJJ1 by making needed balancing changes and content. The grind is still bad doe.
the only way I can see this game not be terrible after leaving "open beta" (it has 7 gamepasses so it'S not really an open beta) is that the game gets COMPLETELY remade, and not a copy paste of the old project jojo. PJJ2 is literally just the Overwatch 2 of Jojo Roblox games
@@SchwarzieKun Like I asked the other person, have you ever played PJJ1? It’s not that bad LMAO. This game is a massive improvement over that game!
@@SchwarzieKungamepasses is just funds for development
The game was soft launched everything intended on release is not in the game yet . i hope the devs take note of what players have to say so it can improve
jetstream sam is a constant in bad jojo games
"Let's dance!"
- literally no one ever
My favorite of old pjj was the 5 global inventory resets. Or was it the ws that could permanantly steal stands? Idk.
7:30 TrashcanJetstreamSamCosplayer672 Situation is Crazy
Bro was using a gun too. Truly deserving of being TrashcanJetStreamSamCosplayer672.
I would wanna use yellow temperance I am a die hard rubber soul fan I even main him heritage for the future, it is so sad to see my favourite jojo character be disrespectd like this I will never forgive you eclipse
Don't disrespect PJJ, it was there when others weren't. PJJ walked so ABD, YBA and other games could run.
Edit: Nvm this new game lowkey shit they r disrespecting the legacy of the founder so bad.
the founder literally blessed the game and played the game for like 8 hours straight when the first stress test launched
Character development
@@Synuxy And yet it still somehow turned out shit 😔
Sad story in 2 parts
@@strongHORNET112yeah that happens when you release a game with buggy code in early 2016 and then keep adding onto that spaghetti code in hopes that everything still works
If I had a nickel for every single time eclipse got killed by a random jet stream Sam I would have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice
The dummy quests are because there is no PvE yet. The beta is just for the main mechanics of the game before the actual PvE is added for the release.
So you're telling me that they couldn't even add just a basic punching or melee attack with a few moves for the npcs? The game would be ass regardless but the fact they are this lazy and you're defending it makes absolutely zero sense.
Why not add the system they have in mind in the beta, would be better to get feedback from that than from something that won’t even be in your game after the beta phase
its an eclipse vid ofc he will do everything but play the stuff that the game really offers
@ they can’t just “add the system they have in mind.” Thats not how development works. They’re going to add it. They chose to let people play before it was there. The problem is that you’re required to do anything placeholder before the PvE is done. They really should’ve just let people mess around and had a statement saying that progression would come in at release to get beta testing data.
@@HolyKac In his defense, what the game really offers is locked behind random mind numbing grinding that isn’t going to be there in the end. He didn’t really have evidence that it would be any fun enough to be worth it.
4:12 bro doesn’t know what yellow temperance is?
Oh. My. Goodness.
Usually I can't be bothered to comment on Eclipse's videos but this is truely mind-numbing. I'll use this as an opportunity to criticise everything I find wrong or just plain putrid about this channel. Also, pick apart my grammar as much as you can to try and devalue my arguement 😅
1. This video is not a game review. Firstly, it could be argued that Project JoJo 2 is not even a game at all, as it is still in its early development. Eclipse, if you're now yelling like a soyjack, "THEN WHY IS IT, ON FXXKING ROBLOX!!!!" It's a PLAYTEST, to test the waters and to identify and fix bugs. It helps smoothen out the development process, while ensuring that future updates and resources can be allocated towards more pressing matters, such as I don't know PVE? 😅
2. The way you approach "criticising", and covering games. Many games are developed by amateur, young and up-and-coming talents, that have dreams and desires of working on bigger projects or improving their craft. Your reckless "critiques" of calling games "trash" and a "waste of time" deter your audience from exploring games, games that have the potential to improve or are not fully-baked yet. The developers of such games in turn LOSE out on potential opportunities and additionally get a bad scar on their resumes and records from the inevitable falling apart of their project. You may retort that, it isn't your responsibility as a creator to manipulate perceptions of games to be more positive, and i would agree. HOWEVER, the fine line between "criticising" and plain "insulting" games becomes blurred when you ultimately throw around and trample on the efforts on developers. I understand villifying P2W aspects of games, gambling and micro-transactions, but to so adamantly and firmly trash on a lacking tutorial or bad AI for example is just uncalled for and toxic. I'm not trying to be some moral arbiter, but if this is how you want to run your channel, by recklessly insulting the efforts of child and amateur talents, and cultivating a culture of pseudo-intellectual "critics" that laugh blindly at the expense of other's failings, then you're honestly more of a waste of time than playing Roblox (TRUE)
3. Your "idiots" segment. I forgot the name, idgaf 😂 but this mainly encompasses your fragile ego and the way you treat your community and your critics. Firstly, can we just address how comically insane it is to compile thousands of comments from little children, place their opinions on blast, and proceed to logically deconstruct, insult, ridicule and mock in front of your hundreds of thousands of impressionable viewers?
"Damn! Holy crap the middle aged soyjack won again in an argument against a 5 year old kid!! NO WAY HE MADE FUN OF PUNCTUATION HAHA!!"
Chills. Literal chills. You're so cool bro.
I don't want to be a Social Warrior but to flaunt your fickle victories over little children on the internet is not a good look bro... 😔
Final comments:
If you're planning to put me in your next "idiots" video, PLEASE do my comment justice, and address every aspect of it you coward. (Punctuation just for you my love 😝)
Also loosen up a bit, all that pent-up stress and anger is getting to your hairline 🤓
I await your response.
Do better.
Congrats your on his next idiot video
Completely agree. This entire video is ironically more of a time waster than the games Eclipse criticizes
His first argument is that beating up dummies isn’t fun. Sure that’s true, but that’s… already planned to be reworked into a pve system???? Is eclipse blissfully ignorant or is he choosing to ignore that to add more watch time to his video? Honestly I don’t know.
His second argument is that there are too many filler stands. 2 issues with this argument: 1. No stands are considered “filler” because they are actually viable in combat and fusion (I do concede the fusion quest is too tedious though, but that’s beside the point.) 2. There is no definition to “filler,” is The Emperor considered filler when Hol Horse is one of the most loved characters? Where does eclipse define a stand as crossing the line of filler? Even if we take this argument at Eclipse’s highest ground and assume that all the filler stands were useless, that’s not up for Eclipse to criticize. That’s like me going into YBA and saying the game is bad because it has Beach Boy and Six Pistols. This argument is legitimately worse than some featured on DDOS.
His third argument is that farming stands is too hard and cluttered by filler stands. For some reason, I guess he’s never read the encyclopedia page on the Requiem Arrow which is GIVEN to you at level 50? They aren’t even that rare to find across the map. Now even the requiem arrow has rng sure, but that argument is completely non-unique. I contend that you can say this about virtually any jojo game. Even in YBA, arrow chances for a specific stand are like 2-1%, and I’m not even gonna bring up the skins system. Eclipse, your arguments about this game being an rng game while not batting an eye towards other jojo games, which are arguably worse, are honestly sickening. Worse off, you don’t even give any criticism. Here, I’ll do your job for you: increase the worthiness cap for mid+ game players to GUARENTEE a decent tier. Boom, I’ve said more than your entire argument in one sentence.
Next, Eclipse argues he can’t win vs maxed out players who kill him and steal his dummies. Once again, this argument is completely non unique. In YBA, you virtually cannot win if you are low level because you have HALF their hp and HALF your moveset. The term “RKING” is so prevalent in the YBA community that you named your guild off of it. Sure, I acknowledge that they need new leveling areas, but when you say in the video “do you think I have any chance of progressing?” Yes, I do. It’s called finding a new server. You use this false dilemma fallacy to polarize the situation as “I level up, or I can’t.” No.. it should be “I can just choose to ignore these kids and leave the server because I am a mature adult.” Genuinely baffled because this argument has to be rage bait.
Then you talk about the PVP. This is the only argument I agree with, yet, you’ve provided no advice and instead chose to insult the developers. Simply give every stand The Emperor’s “roll” ability and Star Platinum’s “block” ability and add a parry function and block bar. Give these two respective stands buffs to compensate for losing their unique ability. I’ve said more in those two sentences than you have in your 11 minute video. Do better.
Go get a job dude. Eclipse’s attention is never this important 😐
@@smallimmortals7477 since when there is the notion that "pvp is when you can hold block all game"
@@smallimmortals7477 LMFAO, I totally agree on the "filler" stands take, when I heard it I genuinely just sat still and let that sink it, maybe he had a rough week idk, dropped a few flags from his "flag-twirling" or whatever but it was so comically absurd and ignorant. The fully-grown adult screaming and whining about wanting the "better" stands without taking the time to realise, learn, understand that the more common stands are not necessarily "weaker" and are DEFINITELY NOT filler, as they contribute to the rich and diverse combinations and fusions possible within the game. I doubt this will be in DDOS though, the arguments presented seem too concrete and complicated for him to rebutt, and considering his fragile ego I doubt he'd acknowledge he was so fundamentally and starkly wrong.
would have been better If they added Defeat 8 snowman a second time as a separate quest.
I like Project JoJo, while it’s flawed, it’s still fun
Ok 1st grader
The big numbers
@@Funghios first grader? Weird insult
Yeah, nothing beats a game that has trash pvp, quests in which you 10 kill dummies that don't even fight back over and over and over again and waiting 7 hours to pick an item that has 0.0000000000000001% chance to spawn.
Peak gameplay
@@TonioOcram uh... what? unless you're talking about pjj2, the original pjj has like, none of those issues? you can get max level in like an hour if you afk with the sun (a tier 1 stand) in the ice lake, letting you gain money at the same time for stands. also, we aren't in a modded abd so the spawnrates are not like that, they're actually normal and more needed items (like dio diary, req arrows, corpse parts) are guaranteed from their respective boss.
the pvp part is purely up to preference and i won't bother trying to defend something that depends on preference.
so like, if you were talking about pjj2 then just ignore this lmao yea the game is horrid, but if you were talking about the og pjj then i think you have the wrong game in mind !
I hope when it gets more and more updates its just gonna be better straight up
i usually love your takes but i absolutley can't agree with this, PJJ had one of the highest peaks of all time, most of the mechanics were amaizing it was just a bit clunky.
While i agree it had a nice peak, what mechanics are you talking about? I'm genuinely curious cuz i might've forgotten some stuff.
@@shipweck6253 the fusing was the single best mechanic of every jojo game on roblox.
@@shipweck6253 also 9+1 free stand slots and so much customisation and viable builds
@@coos3964 yea but, that’s one thing in a sea of bad stuff, and it was still flawed with some fusions being outright unbeatable before the combat update. Also that’s only one mechanic, what others are you talking about?
@@shipweck6253 Making unbeatable fusions was the fun part, the game actually went to shit after the combat balance update imo. the pvp system they had wasnt good enough to make a well rounded "balanced" game
I played a lot of project jojo, mostly because I just really enjoyed the fusion mechanic, and the creative things you can do with it. I wish there was something like that in other games, without the grinding.
fun police has arrived
what fun? 😭
@@iKariBOT fun fun fun the tier 1 stand
@@iKariBOT bro has not used the fun fun fun stand so sad
@@AramakiMakizo do NOT bring back this stand
and they gave you a pardon cause punching 8 dummies isn't fun 🤯
Wait you complain about the only 3 stands you got while you had 100k buying arrows its a thing
For the comments saying its nostalgic, i was also a max level lifeless kid in this game 5 or 6 years ago or whatever i played it a lot and i can say that the game was always trash(i realized it when it got data reset twice thank god), back then this was not only the best jojo game but the best anime game on roblox itself. Do you know how much time stop felt special back then now almost every jojo game has it and they seem nothing special. It's just like how we get nostalgic to the flash games we played a long time ago but when you look back and find that game its disappointing and they were trash, they were always trash you being nostalgic does not change the fact that you will either use an auto clicker and go afk or manually farm dummies with no brain activity. But i will give it to them they had too many stands which was really nice but the pvp still sucked you could literally get 16x damage boost with silver chariot and use an undodgeable mouse aimed attack to one shot people, they even had an auto target barrage like what is the point of all those stands and moves if all the pvp is about who clicks the other one first like a fricking gun duel irl
The funniest thing about this is the review up to the beta testing released. They devs made it CLEAR that there were no bandits to beat and look at what happened. To be fair though they didn’t say anything about dummy beating soooooooo🤷♂️
Throw as much stones as you can at this individual
PROJECT JOJO ON TOP
This is a wild comment, but honestly it’s really funny
you sound dead inside
broski tried calling his nonexistent gang 💀💀
@bazooga242 your ratio failed
@bazooga242 Called your mother last night
I agree with most of the statements in the video. The concept of the game sounds very intriguing and I'm pretty hype for what the full release will have since they said there will be more content, and it also seems like there will be some kind of story line of sorts, and a gamemode I'm excited for is gangwars.
to the people shitting on eclipse, you guys gotta remember
1. people have OPINIONS, let them have them 😭
2. eclipse didnt play during the so called "golden ages" when pjj was dominant. he started with yba, and yeah thats honestly fair, i wouldnt like pjj either if i was in his position.
3. just because eclipse doesnt like something i like or you all like, that does NOT mean yall gotta raise pitchforks, like dont get me wrong i still think pjj laid the ground work for all jojo games to come after it and is one of the best jojo games out there, but like i said in point 1, opinions. they exist, let people have them.
ok thats all thanks
Dominant? Like me...because I'm a alpha male?
I'm worried about eclipse.
I shall not elaborate.
Blox fruits ahh progression 😭
yo im a fan of ur videos keep up but dont listen to him at all hes lying about stuff to farm views i played it and its the most f2p friendly and least grindy jojo game rn
@ballchewer17 genuinely what are you talking about
@ballchewer17 that glaze is insane.
@ballchewer17 you progress through the game by attacking npcs which dont fight back
just like pjj 1 the main fun things are gang wars and fusions, idk if trading is in this but MAYBE also that if you're into it, too bad the main progression is still less than a bandit beater but I guess they're updating that
SCREW YOU, I LOVE SLOP! MMMMMM, SLOP!
Average PyroLive fan:
So true
whats for dinner? slop
eclipse when a beta for a game on roblox isn't the pinnacle of jojo videogames with his exact requirements and vision for the combat (pvp and pve)
Anything is better than punching dummy for 1 hours straight.
At least blox fruit have the decency to add movement and skill to npc despite the fact that no one like blox fruit pve.
@applel2.043 [Open Beta]
it means the game isn't finished yet
you're the type of guy to complain that there's no gameplay in a tech demo
Excuse me sir, HOW DARE YOU SAY THIS GAME IS TRASH????? It allows you to kill 8 snowmnas!!11!1 this gam is goty of the year!!1!1!!!11!
I had so much fun on project jojo and im hyped for pjj 2
the combat and stand moves are actually so clunky and low quality it confuses me. i don't even remember old project jojo feeling that clunky. i really hope they rework the combat/stands because the map is super cool
does feel a bit slow ye
that's how pjj is until u get vampire or hamon or some shit
@@flappyflap2693 I don’t think a spec would make the poor coding better. All moves, projectiles and pilots were so choppy and felt so off. You know it’s bad when the game has less fluid combat than abd did 5 years ago
its almost as if the game is in early alpha.. and the devs explicitly state the progression system is being reworked?
Seriously the comments from this guy are so objective considering the stage of development the game is in: It is a demo and not meant to represent real progression. The NEXT UPDATE is meant to fix this exact problem