She is spot on about the hypocrisy of the US, about Ukraine and Israel. Netanyahu is taking advantage of Israel's "special relationship" with the US, and seriously threatens to dilute our assistance to Ukraine.
yeah, its gotten so bad I barely even bother posting anymore. YT comment section used to be a good place for interesting discussions and debates, not anymore.
The reason Starmer gets criticised for his lack of morality on the Gaza issue is that nobody expects the Tories to have any morality on any subject. So the party that should be taking a moral position gets the blame.
No the reason is because Starmer actually said on film that he agreed with Israel stopping food and aid entering Gaza. Therefore he is supporting genocide. That and not supporting a Ceasefire.
@@brianc7023 So did everyone else. History will look very badly on western politicians over their support for Israel's conduct. Corruption works apparently. Politics in the West has turned into a choice of right wing political parties.
That was a great conversation very well conducted by Hugo Rifkind. While you can tell that Blakely and Rifkind come from different political worlds, Hugo gave Grace space to articulate the ideas in her book. It is also obvious that most of the people in the comments do not have the capacity to understand the discussion.
All those who have joined the antisemitic movement over the horror of October 7th , those who accepted the Hamas rhetoric without question over what has happing in Gaza without any objectivity. Will in time be shamed forever for their behaviour
@@epicphailure88 Another Muslim legend to deceive infidels. They had nothing to do with ISIS forming itself. Only after ISIS was created with the inspiration of Quran the US took care of that.
Constantly hearing people say, 'Starmer supports a ceasefire,' while sounds positive like all UK media ignoring the context. Where was he and the government for the previous five months? Most people were killed in the first 3 months and now that there is practically nothing left to bomb in Gaza, portraying him as some sort of saint now that he is calling for a ceasefire-the bare minimum-after 30,000+ are dead and over 70,000+ are injured, just isn't the political capital the interviewer thinks it is. Moreover, the manner in which he approached the ceasefire is highly suspicious. His probable only real victory was to delay calling for one for so long while concealing UK war crimes from the official parliamentary record.
I had respect for Grace until she refused to come to terms with the fact that JC and his allies in leadership became unpopular. Having good ideas is not enough even in a Fair Voting system, especially in our unfair voting system where swing seats need to be won to form a government. Cameron backed same sex marriage, but many Left and Centre-Leftist wouldn't vote for the Conservative Party with him being leader. The refusal to address this from the UK Left prevents them from rethinking who they choose to lead their relatively popular ideas. Also, not demanding the Left puts Fair (PR) Voting at the top of their agenda is extremely self-defeating.
I’m not sure why it matters. Isn’t it good that he reversed his stance even if he did so so late? Israel wasn’t going to enact a ceasefire even if Starmer had advocated it from day one.
@@liamcraginIt matters because it affirms what Starmer had already told us when he was impressing his paymasters; he is a Zionist without qualification. He had to allow thousands to suffer genocide before he issued his weak call for a ceasefire and he only did that because many of his possible voters were taking to the streets.
@@whysoserious8666beheaded babies, babies cut from wombs, babies burned in ovens. People actually believe this, because they are led to believe it is true. If the decent Israelis knew the truth, the whole settler project would crumble. There are of course those who deep down know the truth, but it is too horrific to confront what is being done in their name. Just like post ww2 Germany.
@@salemalnuaimi602I’m not going to weep for people who live in and support their terrorist state. This is the awful awful consequence of their totally unrepentant actions.
And do you think that the Nazis didn't have their reasons for attacking Britain, where they felt they were perfectly justified for invading Europe and bombing England? If course they did, just as the Palestinians see the October 7th atrocities as fully justified. But civilization must win, and if this means conducting a war where there is collateral damage done to civilian populations, then so be it. Millions of civilians in Japan and Germany were killed by the Allied armies in WW2, and now these once fascist countries are democratic and civilized. Hopefully this will be a moment of truth for the Palestinians as well.
Nazim was a product of Western civilization. Western civilization has always looked like Fascism when they forced their ways on to other countries. Liberalism is just Fascism with a smile. Only reason US and Britain ended up fighting Fascism is because they were the competition. Nothing to with morals.
This is such a dumb argument. Do you seriously think that historical/political-economic progress stopped 200 years ago with Capitalism and that there is no conceivable system that is superior to it?
@@Rtg5637Capitalism killed over 100 million people in colonial India alone my dude. Weird how your system is allowed to unleash suffering but not any others.
@@Rtg5637Are you dumb? It was the famines resulting from capitalist/colonialist policies. Open a history book. When capitalism kills hundreds of millions, it's not capitalism. When Communism kills far less people in comparison, it's Communism. You people never have any logical coherence.
I wonder what Grace Blakeley thinks about American intervention in the 2nd World War in Europe? She wants to subsume all of American "intervention" into a Marxian concept of empire; will her marxist theory allow for exceptions? Apparently in her theory, Ukraine is like a weird, untraceable anomaly. Hmm, maybe a different theory would serve, or concrete history. What about American battles with Britain (an empire) before 1820 or so, did she study those? And when Americans went to Britain (for example my father, over there as a bomber pilot in 1944) to save Britain and Europe from fascism? Was all that an "intervention" on behalf of an "empire"? Whose empire? Or was that something else e, historical, gray, concrete, susceptible to uncertainty? I find Marxism intellectually boring, and shallow. I used to know a guy at Uni (Berkeley in the US) who said he thought that marxists, in order to be allowed in to debates, should be made to wear stove-pipe hats and beards. :))
@@terjeoseberg990 Israel attacked Gaza several times before 2023 with mass civilian casualties and destruction. It has closed off Gaza by land, sea and air for over 15 years and that was a crime against humanity. It is a population from whom it stole their land and homes making them refugees in 1948. ‘Gaza attacked Israel…’ is a statement ignorant of history and facts.
I had respect for Grace until she refused to come to terms with the fact that JC and his allies in leadership became unpopular. Having good ideas is not enough even in a Fair Voting system, especially in our unfair voting system where swing seats need to be won to form a government. Cameron backed same sex marriage, but many Left and Centre-Leftist wouldn't vote for the Conservative Party with him being leader. The refusal to address this from the UK Left prevents them from rethinking who they choose to lead their relatively popular ideas. Also, not demanding the Left puts Fair (PR) Voting at the top of their agenda is extremely self-defeating.
It bothers me that when we get people like this on these shows they never address the fact that billions of people rely on the current system we have and how manking fundamental changes to that system could easily result in chaos and starvation for hundreds of millions if the new system doesn't work as expected. These systems are more complex than any one person can fully understand so to claim that you can implement a fundamentally better system just seems naive.
Exactly. The theoretical analysis of one man working in a library 180 years ago vs 40 million dead in the Great Leap Forward, etc., etc. Grace Blakeley is the face of evil.
I don't think anyone advocates imposing an economic ideology from above. Liz Truss tried to move the needle a notch too fast and look what happened. What you can do is empower local economies, reduce reliance on global supply chains, encourage resource sharing. All that kind of thing that's not really political but just common sense. It doesn't need a radical name or need be antagonistic to Left or Right. Just empowering people to manage their own needs before the profit chasing systems end up draining entire countries of resources, as is the status quo.
I worked in the Water Industry for 26 years both pre and post privatisation. There were many organisational changes in an attempt to reduce operating costs. These processes were painful for both blue and white collar workers in the industry. For example casual overtime wherever possible was reduced. Productivity payments were were revised. Voluntary and then compulsory alongside the cost savings over the 26 years I worked there. There were no easy solutions for this most essential of services. Competing factors included the need for massive capital investment in new assets, the impact of inflation on pay during the late 70s and early 80s, resistance to change, political doctrine in both government and the TU's, lack of trust between TU's and management and sometimes self interest. These problems are still ongoing with compliance, the ongoing needs for investment, openness and accountability issues and profits in a privatised industry.
She doesn’t care . She has zero knowledge about socialism either. She is topical woke hypocrite. She speaks slogans , like Russian communists in 1917 . They used words to confuse people. “Land to farmers , factories to workers “ And guess what , they lied )) Now is the genocide slogan . And guess what , they lie . And still they don’t care .
(A small tech problem with the sound volume put out too low). That was a fascinating and unusual interview for Time Radio. A mesured well augued crit of the system. I suspect this is, but hope its not, a one off.
A few failures of capitalism does not negate the billions of events that support the freedom and life style it has created. Really a simpleton view of the system using verbal diarrhea.
Yes. Welcome to "Marxism 101", where we teach you a few outdated concepts, cool antiquated terminology, and then use them to explain most of human reality.
A few failures. Lol, talk about a simpleton's view. There's a complete stagnation of mobility under capitalism at this precise moment that's leading to political instability around the world. And it's far from the first time it's happened, it happens periodically
@SillySausage2024 I mean, most socialists today don't believe in centralized command economies anyways, because the Soviet experiment was so unsuccessful economically. if you look at what Vietnam is attempting, at least, it's full integration into the world economy while keeping industries under state control. I don't know how different that is fundamentally from the Scandinavian countries. There are major differences I'm sure, but also similarities. I'm American, so the people that call themselves socialists here are often mainly advocating for minimal level social services like healthcare. I don't assume many of us want to nationalize every company in America. Though I personally do think certain sectors should be nationalized (health care, military arms, energy).
@SillySausage2024 It's definitionally not. Laissez faire economics is an essential part of classical liberalism and I'm advocating for state control and ownership over entire sectors of the economy.
@kincaidwolf5184 if she were instead a poor obese single mother from a council estate speaking in a broad regional accent she would be treat with scorn and contempt by the tory right and murdoch press the fact she is not and can engage them on there own intellectual level means she is far more beneficial to socialist cause. Kudos to her
@SillySausage2024They both are anti-war and in always seeing the USA as the causer of wars are blind to who is actually the villain in this case ie: the Russian authoritarian regime.
If you accept the west's narrative that is true. But if you listen to Russia's narrative it is false. Do you know the history well enough to discern the truth amongst the propaganda of both sides?
@SillySausage2024 If New Mexico split off, or joined Mexico (it was invaded by the US, after all, in the 1840s), the US wouldn’t allow it. And it wouldn’t allow missiles on Cuba, or be sanguine about Russia funding the New Mexico separatists and sending weapons. Why would Russia tolerate that type of interference?
"Inequality tops Torsten Slok's 20 risks to markets in 2020" . You know we have systemic problems when market earnings are threatened by rising inequality
What about the argument that we actually don’t have a free market but rather an Oligopolistic market made up of only a handful of players and if we did have a truly free market, inequality etc., would be far less?
We canbe a better free market for sure. She seems interested in breaking the unhealthy government/industry bond. Nothing wrong with that .. get government out of the way. (see California regulation). But, of course, her socialist schemes are fanciful and damaging to society and freedom. And likely require a revolution of sorts. What could go wrong? Maybe some anecdotes will help us feel better. Have at it Grace.
She's an interesting background - a private secondary education followed by a few very successful years indeed at Oxford University - no wonder she presents her arguments so competently and effectively. She chooses to mention her communist grandfather but it would be enlightening to know of his reaction to her parents' decision to send her to a fee paying school. She's a very articulate advocate AGAINST the EU as well for the same sorts of reasons as the late great Tony Benn. I like listening to her because she knows how to conduct an engaging narrative. I'd love to see her appear on Modern Wisdom, Diary of a CEO and Lex Fridman podcasts - they'd ask her some very awkward questions indeed which I'm sure would bring out a more combative side of her and she'd gain a much wider audience which she so richly deserves. I think someone with as successful an academic and publishing career as Ms Blakely pulling the adhd card is the pinnacle of arrogant identitarian virtue signalling.
If she wants to prove her point then she will debate with someone the calibre of Yaron Brook. Otherwise her argument will not convince. I’m not convinced.
She never seems to debate anyone of any heft. All the clips I can find on UA-cam are people of the caliber of Piers Morgan and lightweight conservative commentators. I would love to see her debate somebody who knew what they were talking about and could challenge her about her Marxist beliefs.
In the shadow of fading freedom and democracy, where the compass of conscience seems lost and humanity's principles hang in the balance, a dire question looms: are we descending into an age of barbarism under the sway of a select few leaders? Once, Western civilization illuminated the path to liberty and prosperity, yet the stain of genocide in Gaxa now dims that beacon. The suffering of the Palestinian people is not theirs alone; it reverberates through the collective heart of humanity. Witnessing the unspeakable horrors inflicted upon civilians, particularly the most vulnerable-women, mothers, children, and toddlers-evokes a profound anguish. We are all fellow inhabitants of this shared planet, transcending notions of right and wrong. Our humanity demands that we honor and nurture it, for true happiness cannot be built upon the blood and agony of others. The yearning for freedom among Palestinians is not merely their struggle; it echoes the fundamental principles cherished by Western society. In this 21st century global village, where moral obligations transcend borders, we are duty-bound to extend care and support to one another. Palestinians must be liberated from occupation, for their aspiration for freedom resonates with the very essence of our most cherished values....
I had respect for Grace until she refused to come to terms with the fact that JC and his allies in leadership became unpopular. Having good ideas is not enough even in a Fair Voting system, especially in our unfair voting system where swing seats need to be won to form a government. Cameron backed same sex marriage, but many Left and Centre-Leftist wouldn't vote for the Conservative Party with him being leader. The refusal to address this from the UK Left prevents them from rethinking who they choose to lead their relatively popular ideas. Also, not demanding the Left puts Fair (PR) Voting at the top of their agenda is extremely self-defeating.
Jesus Christ himself, after his resurrection, would have become unpopular after the onslaught of abuse, smearing, character assassination and the personal persecution onslaught that greeted Jeremy Corbyn when voted overwhelmingly for by the membership of the (soon to be) largest political party membership in Europe. I'd have him back tomorrow now faced with Starmer, Streeting, Reeves, Lammy, et al.
Topical Marxist )) every ex citizen of USSR can tell that all this ideology is a huge scam . This “nice guys” took our freedom , property, money and possibilities.
No Grace. You are clever enough to not get caught out promulgating an ‘excluded middle’ fallacy. Genuine conservatives (as opposed to ‘Gilded Age’ capitalists) are fully able to articulate a position in which government is able to properly regulate markets without resorting to socialist or Marxist solutions. We’ve just forgotten that there IS an alternative to both extremes.
Socialism isn't just for working class people. This is like a person thinking feminism is just for females. Don't be silly. An ideology that talks about transforming the economy and society is for everyone.
The key problem with socialist ideas, union power and so on, Unions are just another system of hierarchy. Socialism needs active real policy making democracy to disband the tendency to hierarchy, replacing one boss for another. Participatory democracy and disbandment of party political power with proportional representation.
What you are describing is essentially anarcho-syndicalism, which Chomsky outlines in principle in the book 'American Power and the New Mandarins', and which was tried in the NHS and worked really well but many of the medical consultants and the managers undermined it precisely because it was more effective than the fixed hierarchies that they benefitted from personally. All the best.
In connection with Grace Blakeley's take on the Israeli war in Gaza: Could Ms. Blakeley comment on Britain's historic role in locking the borders of the British Mandate to Jews during the Holocaust? Can she she imagine a world in which moral responsibility has accrued to Britons -- and her -- to support the survival of a Jewish state? Israel faces an enemy sworn to annihilate the Jewish State and all Jews: does she agree with this?
How can they possibly annihilate the Jewish state ? The Jewish is a NUCLEAR power let that sink in how can a mob hiding out in tunnels armed only with ak47s and RPGS annihilate a nuclear power with the world most advanced military? Yes the have said they want to annihilate the state of israel but that is just a utter fantasy that is totally beyond there capabilities any idiot can see that
The Allied victory at El Alamein probably saved the Palestinian Jews from genocide. Without that victory, Israel would probably never have existed as a state. Include all the facts when talking about history...
"...imagine a world in which moral responsibility has accrued to Britons -- and her -- to support the survival of a Jewish state?" Fortunately such a world doesn't exist. Be happy with the Balfour declaration, Israel's birth certificate.
when did chloe grace moretz start talking economics nonsense. Can someone provide me with the bullet points of what she was speaking about because it none of it made any sense
Well done Grace for leaving the Labour Party. We need action for real change, where real change takes place. First stop migration. We are Full Up. Correct re decentralising Power, providing those in charge - know what they're doing. I've lived in two countries where real Socialism exists. I paid 52% in tax. I can assure you that day2day living is not what you think.
In thev60s anc 70s we paid income taxes between 30 % and 90% plus national insurance. We had a decent health service, public transport, local jobs and increasing equality. It was democratic socialism and a mixed economy. It worked well
Gaza is an open air prison camp. In 18 years, up until Oct 6th, 96% of all lives lost in the conflict, were Palestinian. This did not start on the 7th.
@@chrisjames1924 "Prison camp" with mean life expectancy of 74 years. Most people die from western, obesity-related conditions like mature-onset Diabetes.
The collective failure of ALL the mainstream parties over Gaza has been utterly utterly SHAMEFUL.
She is spot on about the hypocrisy of the US, about Ukraine and Israel. Netanyahu is taking advantage of Israel's "special relationship" with the US, and seriously threatens to dilute our assistance to Ukraine.
Thank you HUGO for this conversation with GRACE ❤👍
Anyone else noticed YT’s massive cmment cnsrship upgrade?
yeah, its gotten so bad I barely even bother posting anymore. YT comment section used to be a good place for interesting discussions and debates, not anymore.
@@anab0lic it is getting overrun by bots and they are trying to fix it, but I don't see it working very well
I've never heard of Grace Blakeley before. Amazing communicator.
she speaks like bad bot
The reason Starmer gets criticised for his lack of morality on the Gaza issue is that nobody expects the Tories to have any morality on any subject. So the party that should be taking a moral position gets the blame.
No the reason is because Starmer actually said on film that he agreed with Israel stopping food and aid entering Gaza. Therefore he is supporting genocide. That and not supporting a Ceasefire.
@@nealmctaggart7229 Agree
It might be because he supported Israel's collective punishment, the supporting of which is also a crime in International law.
@@brianc7023 So did everyone else. History will look very badly on western politicians over their support for Israel's conduct. Corruption works apparently. Politics in the West has turned into a choice of right wing political parties.
Too simple
That was a great conversation very well conducted by Hugo Rifkind. While you can tell that Blakely and Rifkind come from different political worlds, Hugo gave Grace space to articulate the ideas in her book.
It is also obvious that most of the people in the comments do not have the capacity to understand the discussion.
how dare you. Customers of Murdoch publications are very smart. That's who he appeals to, smart people.
All those who have joined the antisemitic movement over the horror of October 7th , those who accepted the Hamas rhetoric without question over what has happing in Gaza without any objectivity. Will in time be shamed forever for their behaviour
Hamas started in 1988
Occupation 1948
No Hamas in West Bank
Nice Try anymore debunked bull
wrong
I live on the other side of the world. They tax us into poverty to pay for this BS. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANY OF IT. IT IS NOT MY FIGHT.
@@SavAgeOfAquarius how so?
Absolutely true
She slept well through the nightmare of Syria for the last 13 years and WOKE up on Oct 8 skipping Oct 7 too
Israel and US wanted regime change in Syria. Thankfully they failed.
600,000 dead in Syria
@@MrBenjaminCole Thanks to the US and Israel. They supported ISIS in Syria too.
@@MrBenjaminCole That's 20 times more than the Gaza claims if they are true
@@epicphailure88 Another Muslim legend to deceive infidels. They had nothing to do with ISIS forming itself. Only after ISIS was created with the inspiration of Quran the US took care of that.
‘I voted Remain then changed my mind.’ Not many people in Britain nowadays brave enough to say that. Respect.
That’s cause nobody else did. I don’t know if you’ve notice but Brexit’s not going great.
@@liamcragin, Gaza attacked Israel. How exactly did Gaza expect Israel to respond?
@liamcragin What do you mean, It's going great no more wonky carrots.
Constantly hearing people say, 'Starmer supports a ceasefire,' while sounds positive like all UK media ignoring the context. Where was he and the government for the previous five months? Most people were killed in the first 3 months and now that there is practically nothing left to bomb in Gaza, portraying him as some sort of saint now that he is calling for a ceasefire-the bare minimum-after 30,000+ are dead and over 70,000+ are injured, just isn't the political capital the interviewer thinks it is.
Moreover, the manner in which he approached the ceasefire is highly suspicious. His probable only real victory was to delay calling for one for so long while concealing UK war crimes from the official parliamentary record.
I had respect for Grace until she refused to come to terms with the fact that JC and his allies in leadership became unpopular. Having good ideas is not enough even in a Fair Voting system, especially in our unfair voting system where swing seats need to be won to form a government. Cameron backed same sex marriage, but many Left and Centre-Leftist wouldn't vote for the Conservative Party with him being leader. The refusal to address this from the UK Left prevents them from rethinking who they choose to lead their relatively popular ideas. Also, not demanding the Left puts Fair (PR) Voting at the top of their agenda is extremely self-defeating.
Israel has the right to defend itself. Sorry it upsets you that the Jews won't allow another holocaust against them
I’m not sure why it matters. Isn’t it good that he reversed his stance even if he did so so late? Israel wasn’t going to enact a ceasefire even if Starmer had advocated it from day one.
@@AB-zl4nh, Gaza attacked Israel. How exactly did Gaza expect Israel to respond?
@@liamcraginIt matters because it affirms what Starmer had already told us when he was impressing his paymasters; he is a Zionist without qualification. He had to allow thousands to suffer genocide before he issued his weak call for a ceasefire and he only did that because many of his possible voters were taking to the streets.
Ms. Blakeley, watch the October 7 footage. Ask yourself, how would I respond?
What makes your moral stance more legitimate than others?
Was Oct 7th authorization to cleanse Gaza, or just the pretext?
@@whysoserious8666beheaded babies, babies cut from wombs, babies burned in ovens. People actually believe this, because they are led to believe it is true. If the decent Israelis knew the truth, the whole settler project would crumble. There are of course those who deep down know the truth, but it is too horrific to confront what is being done in their name. Just like post ww2 Germany.
What about the massacres in the west bank????
I'm sure she wouldn't be bombing innocent children you melt.
@@salemalnuaimi602I’m not going to weep for people who live in and support their terrorist state. This is the awful awful consequence of their totally unrepentant actions.
And do you think that the Nazis didn't have their reasons for attacking Britain, where they felt they were perfectly justified for invading Europe and bombing England? If course they did, just as the Palestinians see the October 7th atrocities as fully justified. But civilization must win, and if this means conducting a war where there is collateral damage done to civilian populations, then so be it. Millions of civilians in Japan and Germany were killed by the Allied armies in WW2, and now these once fascist countries are democratic and civilized. Hopefully this will be a moment of truth for the Palestinians as well.
Precisely
Britain declared war on Germany as it was heading East completely in the opposite direction to us.
We were OURSELVES occupying a quarter of the World.
Democracy is over. Globalisation created a international oligarchy. Civilisation is over.
Nazim was a product of Western civilization. Western civilization has always looked like Fascism when they forced their ways on to other countries. Liberalism is just Fascism with a smile. Only reason US and Britain ended up fighting Fascism is because they were the competition. Nothing to with morals.
@@Saltybuher Western civilization is just Fascism with a smile.
Fascinating woman. I look forward to reading her books.
She explains well how imperfect capitalism is yet not able to prove that there is a system less imperfect
This is such a dumb argument. Do you seriously think that historical/political-economic progress stopped 200 years ago with Capitalism and that there is no conceivable system that is superior to it?
@@KarlRobespierre Prove it without a revolution that demands untold human suffering
@@Rtg5637Capitalism killed over 100 million people in colonial India alone my dude. Weird how your system is allowed to unleash suffering but not any others.
@@KarlRobespierre Wrong. It was the barbarians invasions with a new religion that did that way before capitalism arrived in India.
@@Rtg5637Are you dumb? It was the famines resulting from capitalist/colonialist policies. Open a history book. When capitalism kills hundreds of millions, it's not capitalism. When Communism kills far less people in comparison, it's Communism. You people never have any logical coherence.
Who looks at Keir Starmer’s response to Gaza and thinks ah , that’s some canny political manouvering there 😢
Very good interview. Enjoyed it immensely etc.
beautiful and socialist, i read her book yesterday, fallen in love with her
What a contrast. Pretty looks, sick mind.
I wonder what Grace Blakeley thinks about American intervention in the 2nd World War in Europe? She wants to subsume all of American "intervention" into a Marxian concept of empire; will her marxist theory allow for exceptions? Apparently in her theory, Ukraine is like a weird, untraceable anomaly. Hmm, maybe a different theory would serve, or concrete history. What about American battles with Britain (an empire) before 1820 or so, did she study those? And when Americans went to Britain (for example my father, over there as a bomber pilot in 1944) to save Britain and Europe from fascism? Was all that an "intervention" on behalf of an "empire"? Whose empire? Or was that something else e, historical, gray, concrete, susceptible to uncertainty? I find Marxism intellectually boring, and shallow. I used to know a guy at Uni (Berkeley in the US) who said he thought that marxists, in order to be allowed in to debates, should be made to wear stove-pipe hats and beards. :))
She probably would’ve been fine with it once the Soviet Union joined in.
@@liamcragin, Gaza attacked Israel. How exactly did Gaza expect Israel to respond?
Amen. Your father's bravery is why this little twit Blakeley has freedom of speech. Which she uses to defend Muslim terror.
@@terjeoseberg990 Israel attacked Gaza several times before 2023 with mass civilian casualties and destruction. It has closed off Gaza by land, sea and air for over 15 years and that was a crime against humanity. It is a population from whom it stole their land and homes making them refugees in 1948. ‘Gaza attacked Israel…’ is a statement ignorant of history and facts.
@@terjeoseberg990 I never mentioned Israel or Gaza
10000% true. Well said Grace.
I had respect for Grace until she refused to come to terms with the fact that JC and his allies in leadership became unpopular. Having good ideas is not enough even in a Fair Voting system, especially in our unfair voting system where swing seats need to be won to form a government. Cameron backed same sex marriage, but many Left and Centre-Leftist wouldn't vote for the Conservative Party with him being leader. The refusal to address this from the UK Left prevents them from rethinking who they choose to lead their relatively popular ideas. Also, not demanding the Left puts Fair (PR) Voting at the top of their agenda is extremely self-defeating.
@@AB-zl4nh, Gaza attacked Israel. How exactly did Gaza expect Israel to respond?
It bothers me that when we get people like this on these shows they never address the fact that billions of people rely on the current system we have and how manking fundamental changes to that system could easily result in chaos and starvation for hundreds of millions if the new system doesn't work as expected.
These systems are more complex than any one person can fully understand so to claim that you can implement a fundamentally better system just seems naive.
Exactly. They care about feeling good about themselves not doing good
Exactly. The theoretical analysis of one man working in a library 180 years ago vs 40 million dead in the Great Leap Forward, etc., etc. Grace Blakeley is the face of evil.
As often as not they are low-level academics buffing a resume or hawking a book.
I don't think anyone advocates imposing an economic ideology from above. Liz Truss tried to move the needle a notch too fast and look what happened.
What you can do is empower local economies, reduce reliance on global supply chains, encourage resource sharing. All that kind of thing that's not really political but just common sense. It doesn't need a radical name or need be antagonistic to Left or Right. Just empowering people to manage their own needs before the profit chasing systems end up draining entire countries of resources, as is the status quo.
People are already starving on-masse, quit the moralising!
“I kind of go into this in the book”…… champagne socialist talking points not based in any facts or understanding of a world economy we’re now in.
A socialist and capitalism hater.
Thank God with no influence.
"No influence," yet Times Radio grants her a respectful and well conducted interview. Your definition of "no influence" is strange indeed.
I worked in the Water Industry for 26 years both pre and post privatisation. There were many organisational changes in an attempt to reduce operating costs. These processes were painful for both blue and white collar workers in the industry. For example casual overtime wherever possible was reduced. Productivity payments were were revised. Voluntary and then compulsory alongside the cost savings over the 26 years I worked there. There were no easy solutions for this most essential of services. Competing factors included the need for massive capital investment in new assets, the impact of inflation on pay during the late 70s and early 80s, resistance to change, political doctrine in both government and the TU's, lack of trust between TU's and management and sometimes self interest. These problems are still ongoing with compliance, the ongoing needs for investment, openness and accountability issues and profits in a privatised industry.
Their solution was no capital investment and massive dividends for stock holders?
This chick has no idea what she's talking about. She doesn't know anything about this conflict or the region or the history of the region
She doesn’t care . She has zero knowledge about socialism either.
She is topical woke hypocrite.
She speaks slogans , like Russian communists in 1917 . They used words to confuse people.
“Land to farmers , factories to workers “
And guess what , they lied ))
Now is the genocide slogan .
And guess what , they lie .
And still they don’t care .
TOSH!
(A small tech problem with the sound volume put out too low). That was a fascinating and unusual interview for Time Radio. A mesured well augued crit of the system. I suspect this is, but hope its not, a one off.
I'm loving the angry right-wing comments below this video 😄
I don’t think being skeptical of advocating Marxism, seeing its track record, is particularly right wing.
The hasbara comes out in droves
A few failures of capitalism does not negate the billions of events that support the freedom and life style it has created.
Really a simpleton view of the system using verbal diarrhea.
Yes. Welcome to "Marxism 101", where we teach you a few outdated concepts, cool antiquated terminology, and then use them to explain most of human reality.
A few failures. Lol, talk about a simpleton's view. There's a complete stagnation of mobility under capitalism at this precise moment that's leading to political instability around the world. And it's far from the first time it's happened, it happens periodically
@@jugo1944 The Palestinians, Muslims and Russians are the source of most problem today. Last time I checked they have nothing to do with capitalism.
@SillySausage2024 I mean, most socialists today don't believe in centralized command economies anyways, because the Soviet experiment was so unsuccessful economically. if you look at what Vietnam is attempting, at least, it's full integration into the world economy while keeping industries under state control. I don't know how different that is fundamentally from the Scandinavian countries. There are major differences I'm sure, but also similarities. I'm American, so the people that call themselves socialists here are often mainly advocating for minimal level social services like healthcare. I don't assume many of us want to nationalize every company in America. Though I personally do think certain sectors should be nationalized (health care, military arms, energy).
@SillySausage2024 It's definitionally not. Laissez faire economics is an essential part of classical liberalism and I'm advocating for state control and ownership over entire sectors of the economy.
Grace Blakeley went to one of the most expensive private schools in the UK... nothing worse than a rich socialist
You can tell,a very eloquent speaker and highly educated money well spent
@leonpaul9443 There is nothing worse than a rich socialist
@kincaidwolf5184 if she were instead a poor obese single mother from a council estate speaking in a broad regional accent she would be treat with scorn and contempt by the tory right and murdoch press the fact she is not and can engage them on there own intellectual level means she is far more beneficial to socialist cause. Kudos to her
More socialite than socialist?
Ridiculous. Many good Socialists have had swank education - and a great many proles still vote Tory for some reason! 😵💫😵💫😵💫
It seems she doesn’t care of Ukraine’s independence
Shameful
This thinking of hers is hypocritical in itself
@SillySausage2024They both are anti-war and in always seeing the USA as the causer of wars are blind to who is actually the villain in this case ie: the Russian authoritarian regime.
Self centred totally
Is she fluffy on Russia? She has it right about Israel and the US. She sees the obvious hypocrisy. 🤔
If you accept the west's narrative that is true. But if you listen to Russia's narrative it is false. Do you know the history well enough to discern the truth amongst the propaganda of both sides?
@SillySausage2024 If New Mexico split off, or joined Mexico (it was invaded by the US, after all, in the 1840s), the US wouldn’t allow it. And it wouldn’t allow missiles on Cuba, or be sanguine about Russia funding the New Mexico separatists and sending weapons. Why would Russia tolerate that type of interference?
Grace is certainly someone who can talk ... KPMG story at the end says it all... the irrelevance of Think Tanks...
"Inequality tops Torsten Slok's 20 risks to markets in 2020" . You know we have systemic problems when market earnings are threatened by rising inequality
How sweetly anachronistic. Did not know there were any marxists left. This little ditz made me smile.
Spiteful envy. 👺
What about the argument that we actually don’t have a free market but rather an Oligopolistic market made up of only a handful of players and if we did have a truly free market, inequality etc., would be far less?
She SAID that! 🤔
We canbe a better free market for sure. She seems interested in breaking the unhealthy government/industry bond. Nothing wrong with that .. get government out of the way. (see California regulation). But, of course, her socialist schemes are fanciful and damaging to society and freedom. And likely require a revolution of sorts. What could go wrong? Maybe some anecdotes will help us feel better. Have at it Grace.
She's an interesting background - a private secondary education followed by a few very successful years indeed at Oxford University - no wonder she presents her arguments so competently and effectively. She chooses to mention her communist grandfather but it would be enlightening to know of his reaction to her parents' decision to send her to a fee paying school. She's a very articulate advocate AGAINST the EU as well for the same sorts of reasons as the late great Tony Benn.
I like listening to her because she knows how to conduct an engaging narrative. I'd love to see her appear on Modern Wisdom, Diary of a CEO and Lex Fridman podcasts - they'd ask her some very awkward questions indeed which I'm sure would bring out a more combative side of her and she'd gain a much wider audience which she so richly deserves.
I think someone with as successful an academic and publishing career as Ms Blakely pulling the adhd card is the pinnacle of arrogant identitarian virtue signalling.
If she wants to prove her point then she will debate with someone the calibre of Yaron Brook. Otherwise her argument will not convince.
I’m not convinced.
She never seems to debate anyone of any heft. All the clips I can find on UA-cam are people of the caliber of Piers Morgan and lightweight conservative commentators. I would love to see her debate somebody who knew what they were talking about and could challenge her about her Marxist beliefs.
@@liamcragin, Gaza attacked Israel. How exactly did Gaza expect Israel to respond?
There is no theory here. If she doesn't want revolution then it's not Marxism but if it's not Marxism then what is it?
We have a failing system, that is common sense. What the solution is up for debate.
Huh?
You absolutely can adopt Marxist ideals without being a revolutionary, also you really think she’d admit to being a revolutionary in the press??
This girl has the game well and truly uncovered 100% ,👍💪💥
For a while now I've thought she should be in politics, can you imagine if we had poiticians who knew anything about ANYTHING?
And the East Has None
We are in the "crisis" stage of The Forth Turning, happens in cycles every 80 to 100 years. Expect a volatile decade ahead.
Although this episode is a kind of 'refresher' - that ship has sadly well and truly sailed!
In the shadow of fading freedom and democracy, where the compass of conscience seems lost and humanity's principles hang in the balance, a dire question looms: are we descending into an age of barbarism under the sway of a select few leaders? Once, Western civilization illuminated the path to liberty and prosperity, yet the stain of genocide in Gaxa now dims that beacon. The suffering of the Palestinian people is not theirs alone; it reverberates through the collective heart of humanity. Witnessing the unspeakable horrors inflicted upon civilians, particularly the most vulnerable-women, mothers, children, and toddlers-evokes a profound anguish. We are all fellow inhabitants of this shared planet, transcending notions of right and wrong. Our humanity demands that we honor and nurture it, for true happiness cannot be built upon the blood and agony of others. The yearning for freedom among Palestinians is not merely their struggle; it echoes the fundamental principles cherished by Western society. In this 21st century global village, where moral obligations transcend borders, we are duty-bound to extend care and support to one another. Palestinians must be liberated from occupation, for their aspiration for freedom resonates with the very essence of our most cherished values....
Opinions are a dime a dozen.
I had respect for Grace until she refused to come to terms with the fact that JC and his allies in leadership became unpopular. Having good ideas is not enough even in a Fair Voting system, especially in our unfair voting system where swing seats need to be won to form a government. Cameron backed same sex marriage, but many Left and Centre-Leftist wouldn't vote for the Conservative Party with him being leader. The refusal to address this from the UK Left prevents them from rethinking who they choose to lead their relatively popular ideas. Also, not demanding the Left puts Fair (PR) Voting at the top of their agenda is extremely self-defeating.
Jesus Christ himself, after his resurrection, would have become unpopular after the onslaught of abuse, smearing, character assassination and the personal persecution onslaught that greeted Jeremy Corbyn when voted overwhelmingly for by the membership of the (soon to be) largest political party membership in Europe. I'd have him back tomorrow now faced with Starmer, Streeting, Reeves, Lammy, et al.
Give more money to the regions! 🤔(Green Fire UK) 🌈🦉
PS: KPMG? IPPS? ISFA! ( I suffer from acronymitis! )
Who's she? I really enjoyed this interview.
“Everything that happens, happens as it should, and if you observe carefully, you will find this to be so.”
― Marcus Aurelius
She probably lives in a 3 million pound home with servants.... because she has to.
Topical Marxist )) every ex citizen of USSR can tell that all this ideology is a huge scam . This “nice guys” took our freedom , property, money and possibilities.
She doesn't live in a 3 million pound home and she doesn't have any servants.
No Grace. You are clever enough to not get caught out promulgating an ‘excluded middle’ fallacy. Genuine conservatives (as opposed to ‘Gilded Age’ capitalists) are fully able to articulate a position in which government is able to properly regulate markets without resorting to socialist or Marxist solutions. We’ve just forgotten that there IS an alternative to both extremes.
Poster child for champagne socialism.
Socialism isn't just for working class people. This is like a person thinking feminism is just for females. Don't be silly. An ideology that talks about transforming the economy and society is for everyone.
its the laws surrounding their so called policies such as keying in the tax reasons and why its taken forever for me to find my best typo app
Miss anti-capitalist's book is published by a company owned by the folks who started the whole venture capital boom. KKR.
GRINGOLAND AND BRITAIN SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES
Hugo is a raving war Monger "we don't want to hear a nuanced view on Gaza" No Hugo just you and your neighbours Yuk 😊
10 million companies using material from nature means just one thing.....doom
The key problem with socialist ideas, union power and so on, Unions are just another system of hierarchy. Socialism needs active real policy making democracy to disband the tendency to hierarchy, replacing one boss for another. Participatory democracy and disbandment of party political power with proportional representation.
What you are describing is essentially anarcho-syndicalism, which Chomsky outlines in principle in the book 'American Power and the New Mandarins', and which was tried in the NHS and worked really well but many of the medical consultants and the managers undermined it precisely because it was more effective than the fixed hierarchies that they benefitted from personally.
All the best.
Typical Times Radio leftist woke 🙄🙄🙄 Not surprised
In connection with Grace Blakeley's take on the Israeli war in Gaza: Could Ms. Blakeley comment on Britain's historic role in locking the borders of the British Mandate to Jews during the Holocaust? Can she she imagine a world in which moral responsibility has accrued to Britons -- and her -- to support the survival of a Jewish state? Israel faces an enemy sworn to annihilate the Jewish State and all Jews: does she agree with this?
Lie!
How can they possibly annihilate the Jewish state ? The Jewish is a NUCLEAR power let that sink in how can a mob hiding out in tunnels armed only with ak47s and RPGS annihilate a nuclear power with the world most advanced military? Yes the have said they want to annihilate the state of israel but that is just a utter fantasy that is totally beyond there capabilities any idiot can see that
The Allied victory at El Alamein probably saved the Palestinian Jews from genocide. Without that victory, Israel would probably never have existed as a state. Include all the facts when talking about history...
"...imagine a world in which moral responsibility has accrued to Britons -- and her -- to support the survival of a Jewish state?" Fortunately such a world doesn't exist. Be happy with the Balfour declaration, Israel's birth certificate.
she's such a clown
This girl read some sociological monographs
That’s fine end the UN. We pay the most anyway and most of us don’t like it. Please do tired of sending my money off
Materialism has replaced a spiritual connection with our and the health of the planet. That's why we are in this mess
when did chloe grace moretz start talking economics nonsense. Can someone provide me with the bullet points of what she was speaking about because it none of it made any sense
Interesting. Thanks.
Capitalism hasn't actually been failing, it's the third way, regulated capitalism with huge taxes that has been failing. Capitalism is prospering
We humans are all palastine ❤
No humans side with the Civilized man - NOT Jihadis.
OP title, sheesh, also known as "the Apocalypse of society"😢😅😊 ....I'm kidding 🎉
Grace in name only.
PLUTOCRACY IS THE PROBLEM
Well done Grace for leaving the Labour Party. We need action for real change, where real change takes place. First stop migration. We are Full Up. Correct re decentralising Power, providing those in charge - know what they're doing. I've lived in two countries where real Socialism exists. I paid 52% in tax. I can assure you that day2day living is not what you think.
In thev60s anc 70s we paid income taxes between 30 % and 90% plus national insurance. We had a decent health service, public transport, local jobs and increasing equality. It was democratic socialism and a mixed economy. It worked well
Saw comments wont even bother watching. She looks like she does not have a clue that is for sure
Her Vocal Fry Makes It Hard To Listen.
The interviewer basically saying 'how dare you question our system'
Your system is highly hypocritical and disingenuous
@@Rtg5637 exactly. And the interviewer is a typical stooge who cannot handle criticism of the system
@@davidalexander9873 it's about the imaginary system you support
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE GRACE TO DINNER
HOLY CLICK BAIT BATMAN!!!!
Evil Rises
Virtue signalling
An envious spiteful smug comment and typically petit bourgeois. 👺🤔"Green Fire", IngramSpark, geoff nelson hill )🌈🦉
Ok ... but none of this makes Hamas righteous.
Gaza attacked Israel. How exactly did Gaza expect Israel to respond?
Gaza is an open air prison camp. In 18 years, up until Oct 6th, 96% of all lives lost in the conflict, were Palestinian. This did not start on the 7th.
@@chrisjames1924
"Prison camp" with mean life expectancy of 74 years.
Most people die from western, obesity-related conditions like mature-onset Diabetes.
does she talk fast or somethin
Interviews is pro Isreal pro big business part of status quo
Speaks a lot and says nothing of value.
She should read books, not write them
No make up and tragic teeth ❤
she doesn't need it.. she still looks so fine.. and she's right what she is saying
Such a powerful & far-reaching analysis ! 👺
How middle class and super boring
Lol 😂
What little of it was left.
The West.
´Legitimacy.´
😂
What about the murdered Syrian children or Yemen children? Don't you care about them?
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