Doctor Who's Terrible Easter Special
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Doctor Who's 2009 Easter Special 'Planet of the Dead' is really, really bad. Let's talk about it.
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" "You look Timelord"
What does that even mean?"
Timelords existed before humans as the doctor repeatedly says when people say "you look human".
Both from his perspective and the historical one, humans look like Timelords and not the other way around because their species is older.
The same way we say someone looks like their parents and not the parents look like their child.
@@BlueGangsta1958 ok but did you get a free month trial of skillshare!?
No one cares Harbo
"You look human"
"You look time lord"
I mean, to me it's pretty obvious, the Doctor is telling her "I don't look 'like a human', I look like my race, in my eyes it's weird that your race resembles me"
yeah, cause since the actors are actual humans for the doctor and other time lords, they look the same. So she looks like a time lord because they just look the same
In doctor who humans are modelled after time lords.
@@username3.095 true, humans and all other humanoid species look the way they do because time lords existed before time was organized so some of the blueprints for their species was spread all throughout time and space
it's a pretty creative way to explain why so many aliens look humanoid if I do say so myself :D (even if we all know the reason in real life is because of the budget)
Yep
I thought that was the StarTrek explanation...It also explains why every species has atleast one Jeffrey Combs,sometimes more@@yurineri2227
I really liked this special to be honest, don’t wanna over complicate it all
Me too
Me too
Also me, but just like a 6/10
Me too
Same here, I totally love it!
I bet Christina wouldn’t have taken off her mask so early if she took a skillshare class about robbing a museum LOL
This episode is probably one of my guilty pleasures. It's not a particularly good episode by any means but it's fun. This might be an unpopular opinion but I really liked lady Christina. Her and the doctor played off eachother very well. I wouldnt have minded her as a companion especially since she's an art thief and so will would have been a morally grey character compared to the nice and good companions.
I feel like that chemistry came from her need to always one-up him (taking charge, speaking French, getting the flighty things, etc) and both of their love of adventure.
I think having a morally grey companion kind of defeats the purpose of having one in the first place. the doctor needs a companion to keep him grounded. someone who is morally grey wouldn't do that very well.
@@larsswig912 but that could be a cool arc, of the doctor going alittle more unrestrained each episode, no idea how it would end but the themes it could explore would be cool.
I think she was fine for an episode but would get old *very* quickly if she was a full time companion.
@SteveyTheEx-Eevee thats cool fan fic shame twitter has been far right hell hole for years now.
I like the “you look time lord” line. The time lords are an older species than the humans so it’s chronologically accurate. But also I think it explains why the Doctor hangs around earth so often. If he wants to admit it or not, he misses home. Even before the time war but more so after. And he lived here as #3. Earth means a lot to him
No, the Doctor is a man from another universe now. Fuck Chibnall.
@@mayotango1317 Despite whether or not the Doctor actually came from a different Universe, he/she still spent what seemed to be all their life on Gallifrey all the way up to the point of running away. It's no surprise he/she would develop a strong sense for it, enough to be called home.
@Mr Doctors13 It's going to turn out that Time Lords _are_ humans, probably.
@@BenoHourglass what if the doctor is an older/younger master
Was a man:) I'm OK with Chibnall. I have all the available Dr episodes I could find from the classics to every season of the new series. I delayed watching the newest Dr because of all the bad press it was getting but finally I power watched her last two seasons and loved them. She was very much the Dr I remember ever changing with new quirks in personality and styles. She is no different. The shows themselves reminded me very much about what I love about the Dr a weird alien adventurer exploring time and space that and I'm not nor never have been a stickler regarding lore. That was never my thing.
This episode isn't terrible, it's just aggressively fine
That's the worst Doctor Who can be. I'd rather it be aggressively bad than boringly mediocre. Hell, I'd rewatch Orphan 55 before Planet of the Dead.
@@aloysiuswhiteboat2934 Blasphemy!
No but for real I do get what you're saying even if I don't fully agree. Like you can get enjoyment out of just watching Orphan 55 (and most of S11) purely to shit on it, but this episode is rarely engaging enough to actually care about watching it - like you can kind of forget it's on even while actively watching it. It's not that it's boring per se; it's just "aggressively fine".
However, I personally would ALWAYS choose this over Orphan 55, because Orphan 55 actively infuriates me and not in the fun way, while Malcolm makes me happy :) also Erisa Magambo is just cool and I always love her introduction in this episode.
There's definitely elements to this episode that I like, it just averages out as really flat. To be honest I haven't even watched Orphan 55.
That's...actually the single best description of this episode I've ever seen.
@@aloysiuswhiteboat2934 you're wrong, period.
Surprised there wasn’t a mention of Doctor Who having Daniel Kalluuya before he went huge! (Another one from the long list)
Omg I thought I recognised him!!! 😀
Every up & coming british actor eventually appears on Doctor Who, just like how every Aussie actor has to either be on Neighbours or Home & Away
My trivial note to defend Planet of the Dead is that it made an attempt to have some historical education in the dialogue about the chalice belonging to King Athelstan from the Anglo-Saxon era, and not to mention is technically the first King of all England. Yeah, take that Horrible Histories fans who think it all started in 1066.
I don’t think it’s fair (or even correct) to single out horrible history fans for that. That’s a mistake everyone makes, if anything people who take an interest in history are more likely to understand that it didn’t all start at 1066.
Trouble is the normans themselves effectively overrode the Anglo-Saxon kings by setting themselves up as a brand new dynasty and ignoring the Saxon kings (mostly Edwards) in their numbering system, and not as much is known about the Saxon era, hence William I is treated as the first English king in historic circles (despite anyone with any knowledge knowing that this isn’t true)
@@intergalactic92 and as the current Royal Family is the same family as William of Normandy, correcting this historical inaccuracy within our education system isn't in the interest of the monarchy (and therefore everyone who benefits from the status quo), as it would undermine the legitimacy of their dominion (albeit on an insignificant scale).
I’d say the gravity lifts are fine given they were taken off a shipwreck.
It’s not like it was just under some sand in the desert.
I love Planet of the Dead. It's a great fun story that embraces the sillyness that Doctor Who has at its core. This and the next story - the tonally polar opposite The Waters of Mars - together are the perfect examples of what I love about the show.
Russell T Davies even stated this is the last time this is the last time the 10th Doctor should have fun.
You look human. You look time lord. It means that whilst she may believe he looks human(cause that’s what she’s used to), he believes that she looks like a time lord. Possibly him saying his species was around first? Or he’s just being smart haha
If The Waters Of Mars doesn't get an A or S ranking, we riot
The Waters Of Mars is mid af
are you kidding?! "you look human." "you look timelord." is a great exchange! It's telling her not to take everything at face value - there's more everything than it first seems, but then in terms of the two of them in particular - they're both just alike yet worlds away. you can read so many meanings for it and I think it works perfect - a very doctor thing to say.
I think that this episode is underrated, I really like it.
The Doctor claiming Christina looking like a Time Lord isn't a bad or laughable line, in my opinion. It was previously mentioned in Donna's first episode as well. The Time Lords are the first, or as theorised, to "look like Humans". Humans came after Time Lords, and took the resemblance of their shape ("Humanoid"). Due to this, a Human would look like a Time Lord but a Time Lord wouldn't look like a Human if we're looking at it factually. Time Lords were first. I believe I read somewhere that the only reason many of the Universe look Humanoid is to do with the Morphic Field the Time Lords had put around the Universe, allowing others to take their form (appearance) or similar. However, please do correct me if that's wrong.
Although, are Time Lords really the species, since not all Gallifreyans are Time Lord. You have to graduate from the academy to be a Time Lord. So surely they really look "Gallifreyan". Doctor Who has never quite tied this down very clearly.
Amazed that this episode wasn’t a recycled idea which was initially targeted to be for 45 minutes. It had all the hallmarks of an episode taking place between the two two-parters during that era: nice safe plot, interesting looking yet safe aliens, convenient plot points to keep it going along while giving a couple of pointers to the overall series arc. For an hour long special, it’s so mediocre I’m amazed it was even made!
Yeah i agree it doesn't really hace enough story to warrent the extra time like say Journey's End. Or Waters of Mars were the tables keep turning. I guess thet figured the desert background would make up for it? There are a lot of bits were they just stand in the sand.
Lee Evans as Malcolm was a stroke of genius. You can tell he had a hand in some of his quips like "It's the doctor" "Not right now thanks just got a bit of a sore throat"
I don’t get the hate for the episode. It’s easily one of the most fun the show has ever produced and Lady Christina would have been a great companion
“You look Time Lord” is a reference to the doctor having previously established that humans actually descended from Time Lord’s which is why he doesn’t look more “alien” compared to other aliens. Maybe humans didn’t directly evolve or descend from Timelords, but Timelords came first
You need to watch The Timeless Children.
@@mayotango1317 we don't talk about that epidsode
@@mayotango1317 Excuuuuuuuse me for not having fully assimilated the 2nd most recent episode into my years of canon! XD
@@scapeshiftmetaYour headcanon sucks.
When was that established?
This was one of my favourite specials tho
Right me too
I enjoy this episode more than I should because it's personal to me (sort of).
My Dad actually auditioned for the bus driver role (he drove busses when the call went out) and got sent a single page from the script to do in a callback (or second audition or something idk exactly) that none of us could see.
He didn't get it and when he saw the character in the episode decided to take it as a complement as he clearly wasn't grouchy enough 😂
The fly-people… why do they wear jumpsuits that look identical to ones used by humans on Earth, even down to the zippers, which they’d find very difficult if not impossible to use with their big claw hand things?
Also, at 21:17 you can see that the CGI bus has the registration RUA 481W. The actual bus (at 15:55) has W974 GHM. This only places the age of the bus at either 29 years old and 9 years old!
Wibly wobly timey wimey
When the doctor calls for unit but accidental gets the number wrong they say pizza geronimo and I wonder if they did that to foreshadow the 11th doctor
I always high key liked Christina (Not the flirty tension with the Doctor part though) and absolutely could've seen at least a half series with her as a companion with Ten. She screamed beginning stage of character development and I think her being so unlikable to some is exactly why she would have grown from that development. Like Donna but different circumstances and opportunities. Plus 'Planet of the Dead' always feels to me like it's got that "first episode of a new series" energy.
Mickey Bricks would approve of this video.
I binged Hustle last year and loved it. Every other heist story should just give up and go home because nothing comes close.
I always liked this special, it was just fun and I think Christina is a great match for the Doctor's wit. I would've loved to see her Travel with the Doctor for longer.
Also the line "You look human", "You look timelord." makes sense to me at least. She's trying to understand the fact that he's actually an alien, but he looks human so is he just some crazy person? But to The Doctor, Timelords don't look like Humans, Human's look like the much more aged Timelords. They came before them so logically Humans look Timelord to a Gallifreyan.
Ah yes, Lady Christina with her two series of spin offs. Cause everyone wanted that….. Right?
The Big Finish series where I realized they can make a series for anything, despite how terrible the source material.
The year is 2099. Cyber-Briggs has run out of side characters to make stories of, and has started making series based on background extras.
@@LiveHedgehog Firstly, a series on Nerys
@@dominickeijzer5844 her meeting a classic series Dalek, and Jago and Litefoot
No, we should have had a spin-off with Mickey alone. Edit: Or Jackson Lake.
20:30 are you sure people are saying that?
I mean it is embedded in most episodes, literally one of the cleanest tracking arcs in the show.
Upon rewatch I just ask how this basic companion got her own spinoff.
because big finish have to expand on literally everything
@@eelsemaj99 I mean they're Big Finish... They LOVE stories😅
The biggest question I have is how did that spinoff get a second boxset coming out this month
Because it's big finish
I find it interesting that for every reason I don’t like Malcolm you like him and for every reason I like Osgood you don’t. There’s nothing more to it it’s just a nice reminder that opinions are fun. 😁
Terrible ???? Are u on spice
XD
"Mickey Bricks would never" haha
I'm just imagining the hustle theme playing as Lady Christina flies off in the bus. Credits roll
I think this story is alright. It’s no Dalek Invasion of Earth, Fury from the Deep, Inferno, Seeds of Doom, Caves of Androzani, Vengeance on Varos, Remembrance of the Daleks, Empty Child, Family of Blood, Eleventh Hour or Mummy on the Orient Express but it’s also no Smugglers, Space Pirates, Time Monster, Horns of Nimon, Time-Flight, Timelash, Time & the Rani, Long Game, Fear Her, Asylum of the Daleks, Kill the Moon
The long game and asylum of the daleks have no place on that list in my opinion
@@giladzxc17 the time monster was alright tbh
My opinion about this:
The good:
Location. Having recorded this in somewhere that is obviously not britain, is great.
Plot. Is a very basic plot, and they keep it simple.
Lady Christina. I think the actress has chemistry with tennant and the character has an interesting concept (although maybe not such interesting personality). For a one time companion, i did like it.
The villains. They have this 9 season flavor of non evil villains, which is good considering that the episode is between daleks, cybermen and gallyfreians.
The regular:
The passengers. I have completely fotgotten about them.
The...fact that the writers killed that nice flyperson,just because bringing him with the rest of the passenger would be awkward.
The bad:
That malcolm guy. He has the same problems that Osgood, although in him those problems are bigger. But the worst part for me, as an adult watching doctor who, is that it reminds me constantly that this is a kid show.
Overall, i think is second place between the 2009 specials.
3:50 I know it's a nit-pick, but how does psychic paper double as an oyster card? I've never understood that, and it doesn't make any sense. It works as fake ID becaue it's being shown to a person, but how does it fool an oyser card reader? Surely it'd just show up as blank.
Maybe the reader can be considered a very basic intelligence, and the paper shows to it, what it expects to see
It's because it's not a piece of paper that's psychic, it's more like a piece of technology that can be controlled and manipulated psychically to give off any readings (visual or otherwise) within a certain degree (so it can't produce radiation of anything like that).
yeah it's kinda weird
in the canary wharf episode atleast it's hinted that mickey was the one to open the doors, but in this one I don't think it really makes a lot of sense
Daniel Kaluuya sure stands out more now, doesn't he?
San Helios is one letter away from the Elites from Halo's homeworld lol
11:11 I mean, he's right, Time Lords came first and humans look just like them. There are multiple potential canon reasons for this - Tom Baker touching the primordial ooze, or Rassilon intentionally making everyone humanoid via time travel fuckery in Zagreus. Probably a bunch more lol.
Cristina will always be my favourite companion, I'm still sad she never joined him permanently. Her and 10 had such a good repartee. Even if she joined 11 can you imagine her style combined with matt smiths hectic energy
"You look human. You look Timelord." 'WhAt DoEs ThAt EvEn MeAn'
It's obvious what it means if you take 5 seconds to think about it. Exterior-wise, Humans and Timelords look the exact same. To her, he looks human, To him, She "looks" Timelord. The exterior doesn't matter, what separates them is what's inside, both physically and metaphorically.
Not gonna lie you really felt like you were stretching to hate this one.
09:05 My issue with Osgood is that she's an audience stand-in that is commonly insulted in-universe, it is like Doctor Who laughing at its fans before killing them.
No, that was the episode Love & Monsters who insult the fans. Osgood twins are badass.
@@mayotango1317 Love & Monsters was supposed to be insulting the toxic fans, not fans in general.
@@elise205 No, all the fandom.
@@mayotango1317 so, because you say it was designed to insult all the fandom, suddenly everyone involved with the episode is wrong whenever they state their motivations behind writing the episode? Yikes, I think you may have been who the episode was designed to insult, what with that ego of yours.
@@elise205 I see this episode as the life of a loser who has a cement board that sucks his penis. Even Rose and the Doctor are a bit assholes to him.
I never heard someone call this episode bad. If you want a bad Tennant episode, it is “Fear Her.” I always skip that one.
But i would like to see you focus on episodes with actual divided opinion, rather than just your own.
I always wondered why The Doctor didn’t just call the TARDIS to him, take the survivors with and drop them back on earth, The Doctor scans the wormhole and finds out why it’s there, closes the wormhole, leaves the bus as a snack and goes on with his life.
The Doctor doesn't have a Stattenheim Remote on him during this episode, clearly.
Well compared to the current Chibnall Era. The Easter Special feels like a whole Hinchcliffe era roled into ONE. And it is entertaining no doubt!
14:42 I mean.... wasn't this 10 in series 3 constantly relating everything to Rose?
I always had a close place in my heart for this episode. As a kid I would always imagine that the school bus I would ride everyday would be sent to an alien planet and would think about what I'd do and how I'd survive. It was a nice bit of doctor who thinkings as I went to a from a very drab place.
Sorry but Malcolm is more cartoonnish for me that Petronella Osgood.
"Angela, how many fingers am I pointing up?"
*cut to Doctor flipping Angela off*
I feel like all of Steven Moffat's female characters are 'strong female character' and all of them are pretty much the same. That's my main criticism, that the companion of the day is boring and cookie cutter. My secondary criticism is why does everything always have to be about London, even when it's in space? Both of these are pretty nitpicky, really, so I guess it's a decent episode after all.
Amy is basically Kelly Bundy or a female Steve Stifler with serious childhood problems, Clara is Lisa Simpson in her worst moments, River Song is the female Doctor we should have had, and Bill Potts is one and only example of a good millennial.
Now try to explain who are Yaz is and the 13 Doctor, I challenge you.
@Mr Doctors13 I can't imagine Bill Potts flirting with someone, far from it with the Doctor. Rose was very much in love with the Doctor and treated Mickey like trash. And Donna, Martha and Rose treated the Doctor as if he were any human, I can't imagine the Eleventh and Twelfth Doctors being slapped by hysterical mothers. Better watch the series and then critique, like normal people.
@Mr Doctors13 Yaz is just a usseles bland nobody. Even Danny Pink and Adam Mitchell had more character that her.
@Mr Doctors13 What is your problem? Still The Doctor was a alien in the Moffat era and not a crybaby teenager of a CW show in the RTD era.
@@mayotango1317 I saw you in a few Harbo reviews now and all you do is shit over the Tennant era for reasons I can't understand. Not liking it is one thing but you don't even give a good reason except "CW crybaby".
Very excited for the Lady Christina 2 set coming out next month!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Harbo, are you going to be reviewing Series 5 in the same formate you gave done for RTD era?
9:47 Missed opportunity to say it's literally "spinning it's wheels"
Another great video. Getting closer to Waters of Mars and the two part Xmas special! : D
Waters of Mars is the best episode of Doctor Who, can't wait! 😎
My guess for the "You look Time Lord" line is because they existed before us, so it's more so that we take their image than the other way around.
I've already commented but as this was the 200th story, I decided to see when we might get the 300th. And surprisingly, it will be next series as Revolution of the Daleks was the 296th I believe. It's crazy to think it took 15 years to get to story 100, The Stones of Blood. Then around 31 years to the 200th, and only 12 years to the 300th. I suppose will sometimes triple the story count of the classic series, it was going to be a lot quicker to get to bit still!
Whenever I come back to Tennant's run on Who, I always forget that this and the previous special exist.
I remember so little from this episode I’m starting to think I didn’t actually watch it
My first watchtrough I skipped its somehow, I don't think it was ever on netflix
I happened to like it. I never ever pass it over when binging. It is a little light hearted funny story. Nothing speciel. But it cant all be Silence in the libary
This story has a couple of references to the Gareth Roberts New Adventure novel The Highest Science, adapted by Big Finish as a full cast audio in 2014 (with one of the worst covers from them I’ve ever seen, like an amateur photoshop effort). One part of the novel was a trainload of commuters ending up on an alien planet because a Fortean Flicker was displacing objects in time and space, and the aliens in the novel, tortoise like Chelonians, were to have been in the episode but deemed highly impractical for the Dubai location shooting. The Chelonians were probably replaced by the Tritovores, although they’d have been more antagonistic as they refer to humans as parasites and liked killing them.
You need an explanation of “you look timelord?” Ok, here you go “Timelords came first.”
My issue with Clare is the same problem I have with the Doctors daughter, she is at her most interesting in her last moments and despite making her an action character they just aren't interesting and just have one character trait.
Who’s Clare?
What surprised me is Big Finish making Lady Christina series (second series coming up, even). She's so generic, practically Vienna meets knock-off Lara Croft.
i cannot wait for the waters of mars review
I hope you know that watching a few videos on your channel has prompted me to rewatch the whole Davies era for the first time in like a decade. Amazon has my money now, and it is totally worth it. Thanks for giving so many interesting perspectives on Doctor Who :)
Finally, someone else who dosen't like Osgood!
14:42 I think saying you ex didn't breath is more disturbing.
But at least we have seen gravity clamps before... remember Torchwood London?
Why is there never any doctor who Halloween specials?
Some people treat the Unquiet Dead as a xmas special. Which episodes would you recommend for a Halloween watch?
@@hgwells1899 the impossible planet/the Satan pit, midnight, and God complex are all good ones
All I remember about this is that it was decent overall but Lee Evans character was beyond annoying. I'll watch tomorrow looking forward to your views and a refresher
There was a time when parts 1,2, and 4 of this episode were available as 10 minutes videos uploaded to UA-cam.
The begining clip of reindeer pulling the TARDIS threw me for a loop and I had to look it up, turns out it was a nothing bbc 1 promo
14:30 breathing is very different to nicknames and the moment made me recall Donna too
What was the clip of Tennant at the beginning
Literally the most average doctor who story of all time
That "magical negro's!" bit took me out. Can't just drop Key & Peele on people like that 🤣
Never has the title of special been so undeserved
I thought Carmen was born on the rift in Cardiff, that's why she could hear the voices of the dead.
If he'd have just told UNIT where he parked the TARDIS and had them throw it through the wormhole he could have gotten everyone out easily
Actually UNIT brought the TARDIS there at the end, so it was like 50 feet from the wormhole most of the episode presumably
i had actually entirely forgotten this episode before coming across this review
This is the first filmed by High Definition Episode of Doctor Who. Perhaps you would mistaken this is Torchwood,when you watched Opening Flight Night view Scene in this episode.
I like this special. It's an easy breezy romp, decent solid supporting cast. Like I don't need to use my brain for this episode. I can just sit back and enjoy it.
Also Lee Evans is gold in this.
Love how doctor who constantly pretend they’re in London when they’re clearly in Cardiff the majority of the time lol
I have said it before but I would love to see some reviews for Hustle, such a great series
This was actually my very first doctor who episode, way back when I'd been visiting my grandparents. I couldn't sleep that night, so I tried to distract myself with television, only to catch the episode at the point the bus passed through the wormhole, and I was hooked xD
Thoughts about Christina's boot's?
the you look human and you look timeless interaction is just to enforce that time lords look human
11:14 That line was so good, they had to repeat it in the next series.
I love Wallace and Gromit too :D
What episode was the first clip from , the one with reindeers
If anyone was wondering I figured it out: David Tennant's Doctor Who Advent (BBC One)
I like this story. It's fun, Interstellar, has Alliens that trade in and eat Poo, fears of Earths destruction and lots of sand that used to be people. What's not to like.
Good ol' Lee Evans playing Malcolm
If you were the Scientific Advisor of UNIT and had all the 3rd Doctor’s notes from when he was there, you would be a huge fan too.
I've made parallels between this episode and the silence in the library
I remember getting exciting thinking the Nimons where going to return
Look, if you want consistently top-quality writing and amazing cgi, you're watching the wrong show
I don't mind this episode but the next special, The Waters Of Mars, is one of my favourite ever episodes
Omfg, can you imagine a doctor who/hustle crossover? Man the things Mickey Bricks could do with time travel... 🤤
But the doctor would be like "Hey, aren't you the guy I saved from the Abzorbaloff?" "And you look exactly like Thomas Edison, are you related?"
@@stevenhale2935 "are you related?" would be more likely, given they did that with Gwen in the Stolen Earth/Journey's End episode
@@johannvongenerico9487 Yeah I was thinking of that!
@@stevenhale2935 knowing old Three Socks Morgan, he'd probably say yes whether it's true or not xD
Where’s that first clip from
At least the ''metal stingrays' look better than the Nimon...
It's a filler Special, which is unfortunate when it's the 10th Doctor's last "fun" episode.