Kishimoto did state that he changed Naruto’s artstyle somewhat early on to look more like the anime since he liked the way it looked, so as to make the transition from anime to manga more seamless. And honestly I think it was all for the better. Not to discredit his early art though
@@Khann_2102 I genuinely think the manga has some great artwork and much better than anything the anime ever did. The anime was sometimes peak in animating fight scenes like the OG Naruto vs Sasuke, and then other times,they just look like ragdolls with no movement. I genuinely cannot see why Kishimoto liked the anime art style or thought it a good idea to imitate it. It looks generic at best, mediocre at worse
To me, Kishimoto's greatest strength will always be his character designs. His skill with backgrounds and battle layouts is unquestionably noteworthy as well, but producing such a large yet visually distinct cast while keeping them cohesive within the overall aesthetic "theme" of colorful streetwear + traditional ninja is and always will be inspiring.
What I love about Naruto art is the proportion of the characters and the way kishi draws clothes, they make them all look extremely dynamic, and while you read it you can actually feel them doing all those crazy actions, I also love the way he draws faces
One of the main reasons I struggle with reading Boruto is Ikemoto's art style. After finishing all of Naruto, I started Boruto, and honestly, it was difficult for me because his art style just doesn’t feel right for the Naruto universe. Although it has improved over time, the backgrounds are often empty and bland, and the way he choreographs fights doesn’t do the series justice. Plus, his apparent dislike for background characters or 'stock' characters is frustrating, especially since it means Boruto rarely uses shadow clones-something that could add depth and excitement to the scenes
I always felt that Kishimoto's art style has remained solid from beginning to end of the Naruto manga and has really showcase what an incredible artist he is. With Ikemoto, I wouldn't say that his art is bad, if anything he's really improved compared to how he started in the Brouto manga. But his style just does feel like it's from the Naruto world and that causes some visual dissonance. His art feels like it's straight out of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
All i can say the biggest difference between Kishimoto and Ikemoto is their fashion sense. Kishimoto really stick to his streetwear funky ninjagear style but make it fully understandable , personalities sense for his characters to wear them. Also the reason why most of his characters are memorable. For instance , after the timeskip , we see naruto choosing darker color for his outfit making him looks more mature, while Sasuke wear his yukata, with loose obi sash signify he is no longer dependent on Orochimaru anymore. While Ikemoto seems like has a retro, typical plain mindset of fashion at first, but later on he tries to include more modern varieties. But the problem is, most of the time the outfit in boruto doesn't reflect the personalities at all.
@@ShonenOuji I thought you were gonna mention it in your video but nonetheless incredible content I've watched almost all your videos I'm a huge fan 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
It went from a 90s artstyle to a 2000s artstyle. All long-running manga seem to do this. Like how Jojo's went from 80s buff guys to 90s lanky femboys. It's super common for artstyles to change with the trends
People always say Ikemoto's art style "doesn't fit Naruto's style", but what does that even mean? It's a new art style, and it's different, and you don't like that. That's all there is to it. You just wanted Kishimoto's art style back You pulled a panel from the beginning of Naruto to shit on Ikemoto, but didn't say anything about how the Boruto community likes how characters are drawn in Boruto.
One of the strangest parts of the transition into Boruto is, well, you can see Ikemoto's fetishes in full display. That's not exactly atypical of manga-ka generally I should say, it's hard to not notice Oda has a type for instance. However, Kishimoto was always pretty reserved in this respect, I'd say of the "Big Three" Naruto is easily the least horny. Ikemoto is considerably less so. You get - for instance - Boruto fans justifying the insane high-heels by pointing out Kishimoto also gave them to Tsunade at points, but it just feels disingenuous if you actually compare the art between the two. Sarada's sexualization also remains really, really weird.
@@PrimalIncentive The Two Blue Vortex version is stupid. However, Ikemoto's pre-time-skip pubescent Sarada was already bad. Stupid high-heels (because of course), stupidly way-too-short skirt, stupid neck-ribbon accessory, and bandage wrap for her chest? It's less Shinobi attire and more... well, she looks like a prostitute, to be blunt.
Ikemoto is inspired by the rise of platform shoes in late 90’s to Y2K, and the current state of Kpop. High heels are very prevalent in these fashion era and seeing as Boruto is a mixture if the 2. Kishimoto had a lot more fan service on display from Naruto’s sexy justsu, obsession with boob size and not to mention Jiraya. Ikemoto is a lot more tame,and honestly it’s just heels Kpop idols and the Y2K generation of Japan whore then and yeah they weren’t the most normal, but it’s just fashion. Idk why y’all old folks are so hung up on this shit, always looking to hate, my generation loves it. .
This video doesn't do a good job of dissecting the art very well, which is kind of sad for a video about art. It's mostly just surface-level takes with no real look into the logic of how the actions are displayed or the choices Kishimoto made to render at any given time. It honestly kind of feels like a recap just going over fights you liked rather than going into detail about why something looks the way it does. Also, the word "messy" is extremely incorrect to describe Kishimoto's art style. Messy implies unclean line art and deformed figures that are hard to read. kishimotos are as you would want to describe it is flat not messy. there's a channel called "forgotten relics" I recommend watching to understand why "this" video does a bad job given forgotten relics channel does an excellent job looking into and covering how artwork in anime looks and why it looks the way it does and works well. the comparison in how it's handled is very apparent.
9:49 neat lil DB reference,the way he's holding the dark ball of energy(idk the name i haven't seen naruto) the way kuruma is in the background reminds me of that time goku threw himself at demon king piccolo with the oozaru also in the background,neat
Would you make a video on ikemotos boruto art style? I know you said there hasn’t been a difference for 5 years but i disagree. But again you knwo more than I do so I dunno
Odd to say this as a bleach fan...but Kishimoto DOMINATES in motion. Kubo is good at it. But if we take a look at two panels. When white is apinning zangetsu on the hilt. And then contrast in ch.1 of naruto when the guy who tricked naruto into getting the scroll spins his weapon it looks smooth man. But Kishimoto to me had the better art in the beginning then oda/kubo. Although by the end kubo takes the cake with art and style from Kishimoto/oda...
@@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu I think Bleach excels in the still & defined shots, making the characters have a sort of cool and charismatic look, pretty much like a better version of what Boruto and JJK try. While Naruto gives you a very alive and dynamic art with the perspective and choreography, Kishimoto very clearly knows a thing or two about animation.
@@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu For this discussion, it’s relevant because it’s part of the broader Naruto manga. Plus, it is ultimately supervised by Kishimoto.
the drawing style starts has more kinetic lines and martial arts. then naruto grows up and changes the way he sees things. the drawing style also changes as the character matures. also kishimoto follows the way of drawing in dragonball and toriyama changes the way of drawing db when goku grows up. Boruto is a different period and it's okay for it to be drawn differently. I like Naruto's original style, if we notice when Sasuke uses the chidori it generates light. while in shippuden it is flat
That’s a tough one for me. The anime has its problems but the animation is some of the best. And the manga can be inconsistent but it’s peaks are amazing.
@ShonenOuji Plus, I've never really read the manga, hehe, but yeah, I agree with what you said about the anime also the music and choreography in fights with the animation is so great most of the time.
Ikemoto will never be Kishimoto, and honestly, Ikemoto should have make his own manga, instead of continuing Boruto, since I've never liked the state of the story of that series anyways. I love more Kishimoto's early artwork for unique aesthetics which can arguably lacking in Shippuden sometimes. Again Ikemoto will never be Kishimoto, I think that would be ludicrous for asking him to copy his art-style, they should have let him make his own thing instead of letting milking out of Boruto franchise more. Just let Naruto have it's ending without aliens coming in, since the villains in there aren't that interesting, comparw to Pain, Madara, Orochimaru, and even Itachi where they put more time and effort of making them actually cool and interesting alongside with their of the aura with the art..
@@ShonenOuji Or let me rephrase. I feel like these type of videos are unnecessary and common sense. Of course a mangaka's art changes over time. This isn't profound.
@@furynvm I meant that what you said don’t mean much, what’s interesting is to see how it changed, it also helps future artists to form their own styles
imo it did change quite a bit just that the change happened quite early (like around the chunnin exam)but yh Dragon Ball did have a greater evolution but it did also go on for far more longer
@@Ciorno2K No it did not, Dragon ball went on from 1984 to 1995, so 11 years, whereas Naruto went from 1999 to 2014, so 15 years. Dragon ball also has 519 chapters in 42 volumes whereas Naruto has far more with 700 chapters in 72 volumes. Unless you are referring specifically to the classic dragon ball manga - 194 chapters, but for the manga, there was no such thing as "original," or "Dragon ball Z," as it is all under the title of dragon ball in the Japanese manga.
Kishimoto art is amazing I love his art it is clean and good. Ikamoto is meh. I feel like he kids try emulate bleach but never grasped it. If the art have no movement it look ok and some even good, every single time that needs movement it sucks a lot. Even Kagurabachi who have some probles is way better when the caracters are moving.
Kishimoto did state that he changed Naruto’s artstyle somewhat early on to look more like the anime since he liked the way it looked, so as to make the transition from anime to manga more seamless. And honestly I think it was all for the better. Not to discredit his early art though
That’s accurate
what a shame but valid
Shame, because Naruto has some of the most generic anime style
@@SX1995ableThe almost non-existent shading also doesn't help😢
@@Khann_2102 I genuinely think the manga has some great artwork and much better than anything the anime ever did. The anime was sometimes peak in animating fight scenes like the OG Naruto vs Sasuke, and then other times,they just look like ragdolls with no movement. I genuinely cannot see why Kishimoto liked the anime art style or thought it a good idea to imitate it. It looks generic at best, mediocre at worse
My favorite eara of Naruto’s art is probably the early Chunin exams art. I just love the way the characters are shaped
@@vidaliawhyte4620 Arguably the best looking part of Naruto.
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@@ShonenOuji real
To me, Kishimoto's greatest strength will always be his character designs. His skill with backgrounds and battle layouts is unquestionably noteworthy as well, but producing such a large yet visually distinct cast while keeping them cohesive within the overall aesthetic "theme" of colorful streetwear + traditional ninja is and always will be inspiring.
I’ve never heard anyone pronounce Kakashi’s name like that
It was a goddamn jumpscare for me. Ouji mispronounces a lot of names so I shouldn't be suprised atp
What I love about Naruto art is the proportion of the characters and the way kishi draws clothes, they make them all look extremely dynamic, and while you read it you can actually feel them doing all those crazy actions, I also love the way he draws faces
One of the main reasons I struggle with reading Boruto is Ikemoto's art style. After finishing all of Naruto, I started Boruto, and honestly, it was difficult for me because his art style just doesn’t feel right for the Naruto universe. Although it has improved over time, the backgrounds are often empty and bland, and the way he choreographs fights doesn’t do the series justice. Plus, his apparent dislike for background characters or 'stock' characters is frustrating, especially since it means Boruto rarely uses shadow clones-something that could add depth and excitement to the scenes
To be fair, I believe this was also a problem with Kishimoto when he did Samurai 8. But other than that I completely agree.
@@ShonenOuji kishimoto wasn't the artist of samurai 8 he was the writer; he paired up with someone else to do the artwork.
@@chronic-jokerhe did the names and sketches, the other author just went over it with some little changes to fit his own style
@@yassirbeniaz6645 no
@@chronic-joker yes he did
I always felt that Kishimoto's art style has remained solid from beginning to end of the Naruto manga and has really showcase what an incredible artist he is.
With Ikemoto, I wouldn't say that his art is bad, if anything he's really improved compared to how he started in the Brouto manga. But his style just does feel like it's from the Naruto world and that causes some visual dissonance. His art feels like it's straight out of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
All i can say the biggest difference between Kishimoto and Ikemoto is their fashion sense. Kishimoto really stick to his streetwear funky ninjagear style but make it fully understandable , personalities sense for his characters to wear them. Also the reason why most of his characters are memorable.
For instance , after the timeskip , we see naruto choosing darker color for his outfit making him looks more mature, while Sasuke wear his yukata, with loose obi sash signify he is no longer dependent on Orochimaru anymore.
While Ikemoto seems like has a retro, typical plain mindset of fashion at first, but later on he tries to include more modern varieties. But the problem is, most of the time the outfit in boruto doesn't reflect the personalities at all.
Continue with Hiromu Arakawa's Art Style!
The Boruto/ Two Blue Vortex is something I'd like to call the JoJo-ification of Boruto.
HA! I agree..thanks i couldn't put my distaste into written form.
I thought I was the only one lol
@@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu shout out to you🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@ShonenOuji I thought you were gonna mention it in your video but nonetheless incredible content I've watched almost all your videos I'm a huge fan 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@nonexistent_777 Thank you so much! You honestly just made my day.
Look forward to a bunch more videos in the next couple of months!
Probably thought the first view would be some nobody but it was I DIO!
It went from a 90s artstyle to a 2000s artstyle. All long-running manga seem to do this. Like how Jojo's went from 80s buff guys to 90s lanky femboys. It's super common for artstyles to change with the trends
5:12 not to mention that the backgrounds and environments in Naruto served as a key factor in some of its fights, especially Shikamaru's fights.
People always say Ikemoto's art style "doesn't fit Naruto's style", but what does that even mean? It's a new art style, and it's different, and you don't like that. That's all there is to it. You just wanted Kishimoto's art style back
You pulled a panel from the beginning of Naruto to shit on Ikemoto, but didn't say anything about how the Boruto community likes how characters are drawn in Boruto.
One of the strangest parts of the transition into Boruto is, well, you can see Ikemoto's fetishes in full display. That's not exactly atypical of manga-ka generally I should say, it's hard to not notice Oda has a type for instance. However, Kishimoto was always pretty reserved in this respect, I'd say of the "Big Three" Naruto is easily the least horny. Ikemoto is considerably less so.
You get - for instance - Boruto fans justifying the insane high-heels by pointing out Kishimoto also gave them to Tsunade at points, but it just feels disingenuous if you actually compare the art between the two. Sarada's sexualization also remains really, really weird.
Sexualizing=showing shoulders
@@PrimalIncentive The Two Blue Vortex version is stupid. However, Ikemoto's pre-time-skip pubescent Sarada was already bad. Stupid high-heels (because of course), stupidly way-too-short skirt, stupid neck-ribbon accessory, and bandage wrap for her chest? It's less Shinobi attire and more... well, she looks like a prostitute, to be blunt.
Ikemoto is inspired by the rise of platform shoes in late 90’s to Y2K, and the current state of Kpop.
High heels are very prevalent in these fashion era and seeing as Boruto is a mixture if the 2.
Kishimoto had a lot more fan service on display from Naruto’s sexy justsu, obsession with boob size and not to mention Jiraya.
Ikemoto is a lot more tame,and honestly it’s just heels Kpop idols and the Y2K generation of Japan whore then and yeah they weren’t the most normal, but it’s just fashion.
Idk why y’all old folks are so hung up on this shit, always looking to hate, my generation loves it.
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This video doesn't do a good job of dissecting the art very well, which is kind of sad for a video about art. It's mostly just surface-level takes with no real look into the logic of how the actions are displayed or the choices Kishimoto made to render at any given time. It honestly kind of feels like a recap just going over fights you liked rather than going into detail about why something looks the way it does.
Also, the word "messy" is extremely incorrect to describe Kishimoto's art style. Messy implies unclean line art and deformed figures that are hard to read. kishimotos are as you would want to describe it is flat not messy.
there's a channel called "forgotten relics" I recommend watching to understand why "this" video does a bad job given forgotten relics channel does an excellent job looking into and covering how artwork in anime looks and why it looks the way it does and works well. the comparison in how it's handled is very apparent.
@@chronic-joker Cool!
@@ShonenOuji💀
Amazing analysis as always 🔥
9:49 neat lil DB reference,the way he's holding the dark ball of energy(idk the name i haven't seen naruto) the way kuruma is in the background reminds me of that time goku threw himself at demon king piccolo with the oozaru also in the background,neat
Would you make a video on ikemotos boruto art style? I know you said there hasn’t been a difference for 5 years but i disagree. But again you knwo more than I do so I dunno
10:57 JUMPSCARE WARNING
The early Naruto manga did catch my eye. The Shaman King's early manga style is one of the reasons why I liked Shonen Jump over Shojo Beat. 👻
You should actually read boruto
3:54 Bro what is that pronunciation 😂
think you can do this for Yugioh's art style? You could go over from the Yugioh Season 0 to and through Yugioh Duel Monsters.
Expecting longer and more detailed video
Odd to say this as a bleach fan...but Kishimoto DOMINATES in motion. Kubo is good at it. But if we take a look at two panels. When white is apinning zangetsu on the hilt. And then contrast in ch.1 of naruto when the guy who tricked naruto into getting the scroll spins his weapon it looks smooth man. But Kishimoto to me had the better art in the beginning then oda/kubo. Although by the end kubo takes the cake with art and style from Kishimoto/oda...
I would say Kishimoto is better at sequencing whereas Kubo is better at particular moments.
@@ShonenOuji sequencing!!!thats it.. i totally agree. Thanks for giving me that adjectives
@@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu I think Bleach excels in the still & defined shots, making the characters have a sort of cool and charismatic look, pretty much like a better version of what Boruto and JJK try. While Naruto gives you a very alive and dynamic art with the perspective and choreography, Kishimoto very clearly knows a thing or two about animation.
Art styles can change
Street Fighter 3 Music
i finally got my Naruto oc drawn
9:13 kingdom heart song reference!
Think the problem I have most with Ikemoto's style is that his style lacks expression, particularly when it comes to conveying emotion in the eyes.
Kishimoto liked the anime's artstyle which is why he changed it
Ikemoto's biggest inspo is dragon ball what are you even talking about
Is it right to lump boruto in with Naruto tho? Unless its Kishimoto drawing it? Boruto feel like a light novel insted of s naruto continuation
@@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu For this discussion, it’s relevant because it’s part of the broader Naruto manga. Plus, it is ultimately supervised by Kishimoto.
@@ShonenOuji....i am not a fan at all...but it popped in my head. I had to ask, need others opinions
I think the Naruto Anime influenced the Manga more, come on the War arc look kind of similarly identical
I absolutely do not get nor see the dragon ball comparison
the drawing style starts has more kinetic lines and martial arts. then naruto grows up and changes the way he sees things. the drawing style also changes as the character matures. also kishimoto follows the way of drawing in dragonball and toriyama changes the way of drawing db when goku grows up. Boruto is a different period and it's okay for it to be drawn differently. I like Naruto's original style, if we notice when Sasuke uses the chidori it generates light. while in shippuden it is flat
Boruto being in a different period doesnt make it immune to criticism. That’s like the response to any criticism Boruto receives.
@Jay_SGE yes but boruto has another author and it is right that it is drawn differently. ikemoto is right not to copy kishimoto
These comments are just a bunch of old geezers complaining about change, good change.
To be honest, I have nothing to add to this one since I prefer and love the anime more 😅
That’s a tough one for me. The anime has its problems but the animation is some of the best. And the manga can be inconsistent but it’s peaks are amazing.
@ShonenOuji Plus, I've never really read the manga, hehe, but yeah, I agree with what you said about the anime also the music and choreography in fights with the animation is so great most of the time.
"a character like character"
Ikemoto will never be Kishimoto, and honestly, Ikemoto should have make his own manga, instead of continuing Boruto, since I've never liked the state of the story of that series anyways.
I love more Kishimoto's early artwork for unique aesthetics which can arguably lacking in Shippuden sometimes.
Again Ikemoto will never be Kishimoto, I think that would be ludicrous for asking him to copy his art-style, they should have let him make his own thing instead of letting milking out of Boruto franchise more.
Just let Naruto have it's ending without aliens coming in, since the villains in there aren't that interesting, comparw to Pain, Madara, Orochimaru, and even Itachi where they put more time and effort of making them actually cool and interesting alongside with their of the aura with the art..
to me the war arc looks the best
I don't get these type of videos. Art will progress with time, that's always the answer.
So you do get these types of videos…
@@ShonenOuji Or let me rephrase. I feel like these type of videos are unnecessary and common sense. Of course a mangaka's art changes over time. This isn't profound.
@@furynvmdoesn’t mean much, it’s interesting to look at HOW the art changes over time and understanding in what it changed
@@yassirbeniaz6645 You agreed with me, it doesn't mean much.
@@furynvm I meant that what you said don’t mean much, what’s interesting is to see how it changed, it also helps future artists to form their own styles
Unlike Dragonball, Naruto’s art style didn’t change all that much. The figures didn’t become rounder
imo it did change quite a bit just that the change happened quite early (like around the chunnin exam)but yh Dragon Ball did have a greater evolution but it did also go on for far more longer
You don’t know what you’re talking about just keep your comments to yourself man
@@Ciorno2K No it did not, Dragon ball went on from 1984 to 1995, so 11 years, whereas Naruto went from 1999 to 2014, so 15 years. Dragon ball also has 519 chapters in 42 volumes whereas Naruto has far more with 700 chapters in 72 volumes. Unless you are referring specifically to the classic dragon ball manga - 194 chapters, but for the manga, there was no such thing as "original," or "Dragon ball Z," as it is all under the title of dragon ball in the Japanese manga.
@@nivnavion my bad felt longer
Kishimoto art is amazing I love his art it is clean and good.
Ikamoto is meh. I feel like he kids try emulate bleach but never grasped it. If the art have no movement it look ok and some even good, every single time that needs movement it sucks a lot.
Even Kagurabachi who have some probles is way better when the caracters are moving.
The stage 3 critiques are very nitpicky.
over the year artist change if you don't know about the shit then what you are fast video and the latest video you will so so many difference
The way you say Kakashi irks me
Boruto is not Naruto/Naruto Shippuden that happened.
Whatever is popular generally continues as long as money is made
and it's always crap quality
Least whiny naruto youtuber