The EP3 Civic Type-R's Greatest Feature Is NOT Its Engine (JDM Legends Tour Pt 4)
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I have owned mine for nearly 5 years now, and have loved every minute!
Brilliant engineering, a race car for the road.
Do you still have it? Any mods done to your car?
@@Bossix84 yes, not sure
Time to get controversial... Best Hot Hatch EVER
Clio 182 trophy 🤔😄??
I have a 172 now, have driven a nice CTR and I owned a mk2 CRX. The CRX is the best, no car like it.
Kilted Sausage fair comment I own a 182 trophy so am ‘plagued’ by bias haha. The ep2 is great, loved my friends however had an s2k at the time
It will never be beaten I’d never let mine go type r forever
It's not that controversial. Especially if it is the jdm ep3.
Mate if you want to pass someone you downshift, its one of the easiest cars to rev match :D
The problem with the steering is that it doesn't have enough lock compared to other cars but that was done so you dont over turn when taking corners at speed.
Which means this car is amazing at cornering
Yup...I adore my EP3, but you could 3 point turn a super tanker in a tighter space 😆
@@jamesrobert4106 😂😂😂
Watching this video makes me want to go out for a midnight blast in my EP3. These with an LSD and good tyres are epic fun on the twisties
Bit unfair to compare this car to a 300bhp golf R of today’s standards!, I could compare the golf R to a Nissan GTR or something! Not fair really?? This car was released around 01 and at the time kicked every other hatchbacks behind! Animal at the time and still is now! As for the low torque U get a car that actually revs! I mean who wants to be racing round a track between 2k and 3k revs! Get up on 8k in the vtec! Good video tho! And a great car!
On a motorway smashing the fuck out of my kpro d ep3 a golf r dsg COULD NOT LEAVE ME FOR SHIT. EXTRA 100BHP DONE NOTHING
I find anecdotal motorway stories rarely reliable indicators of performance, although one generally needs a HUGE power advantage to pull away easily from something else in a straight line
This guy is talking about missing the opportunity just drop it down another gear and put it in the sweet spot and to compare it with the golf R Is the sort of thing a clown would do because they are not even on the same playing field
@@1981robbo you are not the only one. They do go away eventually, but not before 250/260 kph
People don't realise the low torque gives great fuel consumption which is the pay off. You're right that you would only ever compete in the high revs. I've raced so many 'superior' cars on b roads and none of them could shake cos I keep it in Vtec. I'm talking about AMGs, Boxters etc. Yes a 3.0 deisel A4 took me on a long straight but as soon as we got to a bend, destroyed it. It's an epic car!
I made my US EP3 a CTR clone with a K20Z3 (197HP stock) and 6 speed LSD transmission. Hondata tuned, and IHE for a nice 215 HP to the wheels.
Love all Type r's. Had ep3 and fn2 for many years. Hate to hear fn2 slated so much. Its an awesome car. Ride is harsh, but it handles like a peach.
When they showed the ep3 and fn2 type r on topgear the fn2 was rubbish compared. The fn2 was slightly faster and that was it, handling and everything else was far better with the ep3 when they put them through there paces.
@Sean_03_636 Total bollocks. The Stig voted FN2 car of the year in top gear magazine. You listen to Clarkson and you're as bigger prick as him.
You really need to drive the 1997-2001 Civic Type-R, or the Integra Type-R from the same generation. They had double wishbone suspensions that look an awful like the what you see on the S2000, Mercedes C class, and Jaguar F-Type, with a steering rack that produced excellent feedback. This was right up there as Civic/Integra's greatest feature, on par with the VTEC engines.
I'm sure you know the benefits of double wishbone on a B road, as your Lotus uses this to maintain the proper camber while still allowing for decent wheel travel. If the tires as a left-right pair maintain better contact with the road, the need for a limited slip mitigated until you reach higher cornering G's. Plus, cars to date have shown that the best designed double wishbone/steering setup will always have better steering feedback than the best strut+steering combo. The EP3 is lighter and more toss-able than the FN2, but the strut suspension it uses was not well developed.
Base model through Type-R Civic's and Integra's had upper and lower control arms with the same geometry, except the Type-R received lighter stamped steel control arms instead of solid bits. I suspect the Integra has a more rigid chassis, but otherwise they are very comparable apart from spring/damper/sway bar choice. So I'd compare either of these to this EP3. This was an amazing suspension to be found on a base model economy car, and not cheap to make.
What the EP3 had over the previous gen was better rigidity that came with the move to MacPherson struts, and the smoother K20 engine. Since a double wishbone suspension doesn't add rigidity, more rigid construction is needed vs a MacPherson chassis, this is why the mid-late 90's Integra Type-R's were seam welded, braced, etc.
This EP3 suspension was a regression in terms of making the Civic a better drivers car, but a necessary one to save room in the engine bay, and thus have room to expand the cabin. Honda had to compete with the Corolla. Things like driving character are only appreciated after prolonged ownership, while quieter and roomier cabins are obvious on the showroom floor, and... not to mention... lots of economy car buyers are indifferent to driving character.
The K20 added secondary balance shafts that spin at twice the engine rpm to cancel vibrations, versus the older B18C. It also added variable camshaft phasing, up to 50 degrees, for better grunt below the VTEC engagement rpm. Smoother and more powerful, what's not to like?
One more regression that started with the EP3 in terms of being a driver's car, though less serious, was the transmission for the K20 uses a cable shifter, instead of a rod linkage, and the feedback is a bit more buffered and not as detailed. It is still a great shifter, but prior generations gave detailed feedback with the slightest pressure applied towards a gear, making it instantly obvious when you had your rpm synced up.
Bottom line, drive one these! I enjoy your commentary, and am curious what you think of my favorite generation.
+em ice I hope to be able to drive a DC2 next year, and if I find an EK9 I certainly will
Awesome! My experience with these cars are why I am a stickler for double wishbone driver's cars. Detailed, textured, feedback, and lightness, are more important to me than outright power and grip.
Older Civics and Integras also had hydraulic steering, unlike the S2000, but a similar front suspension. I'd be curious what you think about steering feedback and feel vs the S2k. Obviously these are "wrong" wheel drive and lack the power in comparison, but this is the one element where I suspect they have an edge over the purpose built S2k.
I see Lotus as the least compromised in terms of feedback, lightness, and balance, of all enthusiast cars available within a "reasonable" budget, short of moving up to a McLaren 570, and am subscribed to your channel because I hope to own one day.
Thanks for this. As an EP3 owner I desperately want to drive either of these.
Stock to stock Ep3 is better in Fn2 in terms of suspensions and general handing?
It costs money, but if u put caster plates, roll center adjuster, bigger rear swaybar, and lsd, u get really close to the eg/DC chassis behavior. My ep3 trackday car is alot better now with these parts and alignment review/improved. The only downsize is that requires alot negative camber at front, around - 3,5 to - 4,5 degrees
Vtec conundrum is easily solved by downshifting. I love going on trips with my ep3 for the joy of downshifting the car into vtec and passing other cars. You have to enjoy using the shifter to enjoy this car, if you expect turbo driving style you will think it's crap.
Mcufre found that very strange that he felt as if you can’t drop two gears and overtake = instant vtec lol. Overtaking is brilliant if you don’t think your driving an auto turbo diesel
Mcufre turbo kit! 👌🏻😂
I never understood how people have this argument in a car with such a lovely gear change.
I always thought it was similar to older turbos at least. You had to get the turbo primed so to speak by getting it on boost on my old escort rs turbo in a similar way
@@ThreeB78 spot on
i could downshift my ep3 and take cars out in a few seconds so iv never had an issue overtaking. let me test drive
No thanks no one wants to see your Birmingham driving
Funny I don't have any problems engaging VTEC quickly when I need to. I don't know if its a secret or not but its called a downshift.
Turbo drivers develop lazy habits 😂
It is funny that he refer to less accomplished drivers in many videos, yet cannot grasp the concept of a downshift in a N/A hot hatch 😆
Loving these videos mate 👌🏻After 4 and a half years ownership of my Fn2 I still love it to bits. I agree with the harsh ride but I’ve since switched the springs out to some eibachs, widened the track and had a fast road setup on it, handles like a go kart 😊 pretty good on the motorway too 🤗
Thanks Guy!
I agree fn2 is a great car much more useable in daily use, but has super hard ride, but very engaging Very underrated
Had the weak SI US model still loved it. This Type R is still my dream car after all these years.
Had mine for 3 years, best car ever! 100% reliability, only put a k&n for the baahhhhhh haha , it’s got over 130k and still going strong, definitely a future classic
Another great review! Good to see a variety of cars on the channel, I'd like an EP3 :-)
+Ryan D Thanks!
Great video man! Honestly, your Mic and Camera setup are great, and your presentation is fantastic.
I can't wait for the youtube nonsense to sort itself out so your channel grows
+Phil Atkins Thanks Phil! I hope so too
Phil was being fecitios
I've got the Type S with the K20A3 (160 bhp) where VTEC kicks at 3500 RPM, it's actually just perfect for overtaking. But most of the time I don't have to rev over 3000, there's enough torque to drive in normal paste. It's good fun though to floor it in 2nd gear coming out of roundabouts and see those fancy beamers disappear in the mirror after tailgating me with their bloody fog light on :D
Uh the k20a3 is in the si ep3 and the base model rsx and vtec doesnt kick in till about 6700 rpm idk what car ur driving
I was gonna say Vtec at 3500!! Are u sure that's not a turbo bolted on there lol
Adam Woolwich you can get a k100 ECU and have the vtec kick in at 1500 if you really wanted to
Kevin Rodriguez that’s not true. Type S is for European and Japanese market which is pretty much the same as US version Si and Canada version SiR. And the vtec on K20A3 is not traditional vtec. It engages at very low rpm for more torque because it is not a high revving motor.
2300...i have had 2. Vtec kicks in really early. As soon as it hit 3k it jumps up to 6k. And its an si..not type s..type s is the acura rsx t.s. its a clone of the itr with a k20a2..the engine you speak of is the k20a3 base model..its junk. I cant wait to swap my new one.
From my little knowledge of the Civic Type R's IMO this is much more desirable than the new one. I like the underrated styling here, it has it where it counts...equipment🏁
Totally different cars from different decades. EP3 is small VTEC pepperbox, FK2 absolutely stiff turboed family car and FK8 absolutely luxurious gran touring car while being the easiest and safest to handle on fast driving. Not experienced FN2 though
Great review, very professional.
Seems like you have a really good setup for interior shots! Buttery smooth over what looked like fairly dodgy road surfaces. Fantastic to see such high production value on a smaller channel ☺️
+Sam Clancy Thanks Sam! Check out our recent making of if you havent already
Owned mine for about 5 months now -its a real drivers car and you've gotta work to get the power out of it. Ive got a tegiwa induction system on mine and the vtec changeover is beautifully loud. He's deffo not driving it how it should be...
Mostly so you could hear me speak during the review. Also I don't like to drive recklessly fast during a review which is very easy if you go chasing VTEC
It's a good car we love them in jamaica got one comeing from uk soon!
Any updates?
I wish you a nice journey till you reach your UA-cam goals, I really really like your videos, keep it real.
+Mr Greg Thanks!
Great video! I really like the ep3
If you need to get past something quickly drop to 2nd or 3rd, just blip the throttle first.
Golf's at the time mk4 made 150hp from their 2 litre turbo units and later in the mk5 200hp this civic compared was so good it literally was on another planet
mk4 had 2.0 n/a or 1.8t
@@yeliaheuw thanks for the slight correction it wasn't the 2ltr version instead its the 1.8t model 2ltr examples made even less but the odd turbo conversions on them did happen extremely low hp ingeneral
If you only have 4k to spend, you can't get a better mix of practicality, reliability, cost to insure / tax, speed and handling than an EP3 Type R.
Pretty hard to beat for sure
Clio 182
Ricky Baskerville bit girly looking tho don’t you think? Honda over Renault all day long.
notmanynamesleft nope not one bit I find civics to be very dull looking.
@@rickybaskerville8647 I thought about 182s before I bought my civic, unfortunately if you are over 6ft you look like a right tit driving it, reliability was a major factor not too mention ease of tuning. The civic is better in every area apart from handling but that can be sorted easily with a fast road setup.
Owned most of the type R range and the 98 spec jdm dc2 was the best car out the box in my opinion, ep3 once you fit a good LSD is a great car, especially how cheap they can be picked up now, great budget track car
You're a very talented speaker. This channels deserves to grow substantially. Testing out new ideas like Dough Demuro did, might help also.
Thankyou. Any ideas of Doug's in particular you are thinking of?
The audience wanted to see the special quirks/features of car models. So he changed his videos to show all the quirks of car models and that boosted his car channel enormously. You can use ideas of other UA-cam--producers or create your own ideas. Try to read the wants/needs of the audience. UA-cam needs a talented speaker like you.
Thankyou. It is a constant balancing act - people want information but also short videos
If you know how to drive this model properly then you learn the gears and simply gear down into vtec and keep it in the band. You have to work for that reward which is what makes Honda Type R so engaging to drive.
awesome review man
Cheers
I wondered what it was going to be when you said there'd be a Civic Type R review soon! Great to get your opinion on the EP3 - I'm vaguely in the market for something like this and had been contemplating the FN2 but had some serious reservations when researching about the ride quality. In terms of packaging it's very clever (huge boot) but if it can't smash a B road because the suspension is too stiff - what is the point! Seems it might be better to get an older EP3 - decent ones are going to be a future classic for sure.
+spainter1985 Definitely get an EP3 over an FN2
Definitely drive both cars first then choose m8.
I have a 2010 fn2 and love it,not saying it’s perfect or better than the ep3,it’s a very different car.
Again drive both.
good luck with your search👍
FN2 if you do long journeys and like an armrest,EP3 if you don’t.
Can you do an updated version with the face lift, pretty please?
I’m picking up my 2005 si today !
Iv got an EP and my dad has the FN2, although i prefer the EP because of the lighter chassis and fully independant suspension i have to disagree about the ride quality and seating position, i feel like the EP is a lot more harsh on bumps and speed bumps compared to the FN2, i used to have to crawl over them with the standard suspension cause if i went slightly faster it would crash the car down and jump you out the seat, the FN2 is still a firm ride but i never feel anything like that when iv been in his car, also the seating position defiantly isnt high up and the seats are soo much better aswell
Great review 👍🏻 may have swayed my decision ep3 or fn2 .
Ep3
Not only was the UK Ep3 built in the UK, so was the JDM one. 1 production line along😂. And due to red tape we couldnt have the JDM one.
Ironically, Honda UK were shipping them to Japan they are so good. I love my UK spec 2004 car. Had it about 4 weeks now and love it.
U don’t need torque to over take someone just drop a gear and floor it
Yeah, but not on massively overcrowded UK roads. 🙄
@@stevenhearnden66 true. Sometimes at low speeds in the city you’d be in second and outside of vtec waiting for the revs to build was a bit risky sometimes as you’d pull out and go nowhere until you hit 40/50 haha.
I prefer the fn2 to the ep3...my ep3 felt more frantic and better at the limit/on the track but how often are you on the limit/track 🤔.the fn2 has much nicer interior/seats.the steering is much better,giving you much more faith when pushing on on a great road.the chassis is stiff at slow speeds but the faster you go the better the fn2 feels,it starts to flow with the road,it really is a great engaging car if you know how to drive it.got a fk2 now which is in a different league
+cheesey pete I'd love to try one of the turbo Type R but my local dealer wasnt so keen!
Agreed mate both are an absolute blast and only car I wish I still had was the fn2
mr Heisenberg FN2 is like a space ship inside. Horrible. EP3 is raw.
The amount of FN2's my EP3 used to dispose of. I never liked the FN2, the interior was not bad but it looked to angular and it was big and clumsy, that torsion bar suspension is what really ruined it though.
FN2 is not a truly Civic. That rear suspension ruined the car. The real 8th gen Type-R is the FD2.
From what I remember, these were not that much slower than the Honda S2000, at twice the price. They were really pretty cheap, light and stripped.
Best car I ever owned. Bullet proof engine
I want one of these love my 8th gen si 2011 but that ep3 has the digital speedometrr I like it.
Ha! My car was RJ05 TUV. Bought from Chelmsford so same part of world as JM. It was brilliant. Standard. So practical so brilliant. Miss it.
Just got 1.8 ivtec type s 09 plate for my Mrs put in a pioneer screen, front grill, black 17 Honda crz diamond cut alloys, type r rear wing, new badges I was so impressed by the car first Japanese car I bought lovely every day car now i want to get ep3 type r for myself
I've had several EP3s and they had the crashiest ride ever on standard wheels with the Bridgestone RE040s. I reckon the wider Enkei wheels on the test car along with a more pliable tyre must have improved the ride. That, or the roads are super smooth round your neck of the woods.
These roads are not super smooth, not at all
I have just bought one. They are perfectly fine until a pot hole tries to shatter your spine. 😆
EP3 owner here.. good video, nice to see a new video on the car that isn’t all about the stance / boost life.
The seats on this facelift are exactly the same as the prefacelift apart from the red coloured insert, I don’t think you made that too clear on the vid.
I also wouldn’t say the ride is as comfortable as you say but then again mine is a bit leggy, and I’ve never been in an FN2.
Yep theres no torque, hence why you have been provided with a great gearchange instead.
The car is definitely one that is more rewarding when you drive at 9/10th and above. It’s certainly quick enough for the road and I find it punches well above its weight on track. Its even got heaps of playful lift off oversteer if you want!
Keep up the good work
+Seany8787 I did not know the seats were actually the same, thanks for letting me know.
I think after the FN2 I was expecting an awful ride, it wasn't. This car had tyres a slightly more generous profile than stock too which will make a difference
Did honda make any other cars with dash mounted gear sticks. It's my favourite feature and it's just in such a nice position.
Pretty sure they didn’t
I Can’t say enough good things about my JDM EP3 Type R.
It’s an absolute blast to drive. Check out my walk around video to see a JDM one.
You need to drive both Integra Type R's or even EK9 if you haven't already (I'm new here, just subscribed)
Both iconic cars, if I get the chance I will
What price is the car for sale at?
@Jayemm on cars if you want I've got a MK2 facelift Focus ST you can have a blast/'review' in, from the same area as Alex if that makes any difference? Let me know when you're free and we can sort something out?
+Jacob Todd Definitely will!
JayEmm on Cars ok mate, what details do you want to get in contact? Or shall I ask Alex to pass on my details to you?
Would disagree about having to be in vtec to overtake, not always necessary
Likewise...They are more sprightly than people give them credit for out of the VTEC range. I never struggle. The VTEC range is full on, banshee mode though. It sounds incredible as it changes over.
The last real Hot Hatch in automobile history
I had a premier edition ep3 and I tried an fn2. Ep3 miles better. Gutted I sold it but I prefer 2 wheels now
Every body says the fn2 is crap! I've just bought a 09 face lift in silver I think best colour imo.jus over 63000 miles fsh fantastic handles totally fine. Yeah can be hard on certain roads but nowhere as bad as what people say especially Mr Clarkson, Stig loved it! Gear box sublime as all type R should be. Sounds great in vtec and there is plenty of torque below the beast. Just getting used 2 the car but it does disappoint. Doing 70 in 6th even lower speed put ur foot down and you can pass over cars easy. I will keep it a year and then start to modify it. People who have never driven one need to try it first. Last of proper type r NA they will beco
189400 miles on mine 💪
Dude if your struggling to use the vtec just stop shifting so early simple . With Mine I automatically keep it bubbling just under 4000 as I have had the kpro added to have it kick in early .
I still don't get why people bang on about these things lacking torque.... it has lets say 140 lb/ft but it is a n/a 2.0 engine which also has a party piece if you rev it.. on my 3rd ep3 now and I love them... when people compare the torque.. compare it to what ?? I have a stage 1 mapped vec vxr and yes it is a lot faster and loads more torque but its a 2.8 v6 turbo so its besides the point... compared to which n/a 2.0 are they torqueless against?
Tell me you did something to improve the way the Vectra puts its power down. Yes it is very powerful but it's also FWD! Big, heavy car+powerful, heavy V6+FWD and no Diff = Loads of torque steer on the straights and a heap of under steer in the corners.
Nice review on ep3, I have an fn2 purely because it looks a lot nicer and I prefer the interior also, the ride in the fn2 needed LSD and to be at 237 bhp as the Mugen was, but unfortunately it is big money, anyway how much is the ep3 up for sale?What is the current mileage? Has it got a FSH? How many owners? Also where is the car located?Please do an FN2 review next and include one with a LSD.........
+Richard Crump The FN2 I have driven had an LSD.
Give me your email I will pass your details on to the owner
richyrac@hotmail.co.ukregardsRich
Did you do a review video on that FN2?
+Richard Crump unfortunately not
+Richard Crump will drop you a line!
Shame modern hot hatches aren't more like this - we bought a Fiesta ST last year and I just can't get on with it, to the point that we use our tatty, 10-year old, 100bhp, Fiesta Zetec-S in preference to it.
Its everything that the Civic Type-R of this generation isn't - it rides poorly, torque steers all over the shop, has back achingly terrible seats and feels lackluster when you try and rev it out. The whole thing is held together by its stability system as well - switch it off in the cold and wet and the 'agility' of the chassis that many people praise turns into an incredibly nervous rear-end which means twitchy mid-corner oversteer followed by exit understeer as you get back on the throttle to balance it out - not nice at all! Doesn't help that the ePAS means you're totally reliant on wheel slip and chassis movement to gauge grip either, as the steering is completely numb.
Nothing, nothing, nothing... BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Liked haha!
Im watching this video and thinking i know these roads! Long Melford Suffolk!
have this car really good
JDM fan boys: the k20aaaaa
This guy: mmm comfy
The seats are the same as all the base type R's other than perhaps the colour
I suspect you meant to refer to the recaro's in the premier edition but those weren't them
Im confused...are you sure you know how to drive? That eps rocks. The mcphersons rock. Its super easy to downshift in. You can slide all over the road and recover your lane quick.
Is that the road from Long Melford to Cavendish?
....maybe
Cant believe you didn't review the UK DC2 Integra type r
He said he couldn’t hear the cam change on v tec, better get that looked at because I’ve had ep3 s for last 15years and the tone change has always been there in v tec
It was there but WAY more subtle than in other cars I have driven
Hmm! Lacking the vtec kick lol.
As an EP3 (cosmic grey 54 plate) owner I'll be nice and say it's one of the following issues
1 vtec selenoid (clogged meshing)
2 injector(s)
3 spark plug(s)/ HT leads or Coil pack
4 oil viscosity (or just low)
5 TPS (throttle position sensor)
Yeah the vtec change is really noticeable in my totally standard ep3
I'd love to own one of these, but most of them I see for sale have high mileage (100k+) and the ones that look clean tend to be quite expensive. I've seen one sell for nearly £8k (unmolested with 60k miles). I like these cars a lot, but can't justify spending that much :;(
You can justify it. Spent 4k on a 79k one and it's the most satisfying money I've ever spent. We're only on this earth once and owning this car makes life better! The engine is bombproof unlike any turbo and prices are appreciating now too.
100k+ isn’t high mileage,my mate has one on 300k,just keep the oil clean and you can’t break them. Never let mileage put you off a car.
@@notmanynamesleft 130k here and going well. Dyno'ed it a few months ago and it gave out 201bhp
I know this was 3 years ago but honestly 100k is low miles these days on these. My old one went over 200k before I stripped the car and sold it but engine never missed a beat
That seats came only on earlier cars, later cars and 30th anniversary came with recaros like the delta integrale, evo etc.
recaros were only on the premium edition
Did the facelift got a other front bumper?
Yeah facelift got different mirrors, headlights, tail lights, front bumper, red/black interior instead of grey/black. Probably other things I've missed too.
At least you get the type R in the uk.in the US.we only got the si with the very underpowered k20a3
I love my hatch ep3
Great car, good review. I remember as yesterday, almost for the same price there were 3 choices for reasonable performance on the market. Type R, S2000 and RX-8. And what did I get?
IT Is in the engine. The European ep3 has many disadvantages. It should come factory with 225 or 235 tires; lsd and shorter final drive; thicker rear swaybar; about more 3 degrees caster at front. Then it would be a proper type-r. I'm an ep3 owner...
you are a nerd
@@jasonjuggler3457 im not a nerd, im a frustrated guy because the older honda civics are better for track days than the ep3. I use all that i replied with 230 or 240 slick tires and im slower than the lighter older civics with 200 slick or 195 or 205 semi-slick tires (the ones that have b18c or k20 engine swaps)
@@brunomanco7529 VTEC yooo m8 m9
Its a rally proven chassis...sounds like you suck at driving.
Jason Juggler your not a car guy
Why didn't you get an ep3 as a daily?
+Diarmuid Marsden Hadnt driven one bedore this
Learn how to drive it properly before you review it.
+Ep3alltheway Keeping the car in VTEC isn't great for getting clear sound
#Snippy
You'd only have one gear.. 2nd. No ivtec in 1st, and third gear on a standard one you'd be doing at least 70 before it kicks in.
@@1981robbo your saying there's no vtec in 1st?
Ep3alltheway bouncing it off the limiter is how these are normally driven, is that what you mean, normally in partnership with the worst sounding fart can the owner could find.
Haha I thought jdm meant Japanese dream machine ✌️
There's a way to drive an ep3/ek9 and this guy is unfortunately not driving it how it was designed for. You need to keep the rpm high constantly like your passenger said, shifting at 3k RPM will give you a shit drive.
Shifting at 8krpm will also not be very good for the clarity of audio! I spent plenty of time in VTEC off camera too
It rides nice because the fn2 doesn't have independent suspension. The ep3 was the last
Evo wheels on a civic?
Glenn Ashby sure the wheels arn't evo but sound like !
They are evo wheels, very popular on these and have a better offset than the standard wheels
They are Evo wheels
I have Evo 8 Enkei's on my EP3.
yeap. evo viii wheels.
If you don't have any trouble overtaking in a ep3 then they must be parked up roadside. 😂😂😂Someone below comments below let him test drive 🤣🤣. Jay was 100% correct about overtaking, even on a motorway its mid range is shocking. I've seen a few type r's get bloody noses from diesel's 😂😂😂.
The fn2 was ride quality was savage compared to the ep3, the ep3 could easily keep up with R32 golf and M3 in the twisties if driven well.
Philip Hawkins very few cars on the road will shake an ep3 off their tails on a B road.
When you get stuck behind someone and need to overtake just drop in down a few gears and guess what... Ta Dahhh VTEC will kick in.
Wonderful when you have intimate knowledge of the car and what speeds it does at what RPM, as I was in a situatiom where a fast overtake was not required I did not bother with that
Yes, you do need to be used to it. I've owned a couple of em
You just have to change down to overtake mate feel the vtec. EP3
Where's Edd China or is this the wrong show? ;-)
EvoVIII Enkei wheels, look good
Owned two, 30th anniversary and a jdm, great car, would own another but too expensive now. I'll stick with my fd2.
I'm looking to trade my r53 in for one, what common issues should I be looking out for ?
@@Muzzaa rust!
@@justinbest9429 nice one, from what I've read/watched they're incredible cars.
@@Muzzaa I've owned mine from new and loved it, it's supercharged now so it's got the straight line performance to match the handling. I can't think of a car without spending mega money that could replace it. There are down sides, everything is expensive for it, no real community to rely on info and you go with a lot of luxury, it's basically a track car for the road, I did daily mine at the beginning and it wasn't much fun.
Hows that bump steering? they ruined these by getting rid of the double wishbone front setup. shame really, because the revised rear setup is much better. would have been an legendary handling car, as the chassis is quite rigid and well setup for the time.
I've experienced far worse
ep3 or megane r26????
How much?
+Kee Abella send me an email if you like I can put you in touch with the buyer. JayEmm89@gmail.com
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Review an EK9 Type r
+Sidath Wijeratne If I can I will!
The best type r , I think it's a UK perspective. Asia thinks EK9 and FD2 are better. The resale value in Japan reflects that..
Correction The first nsx didn’t have power steering
The later models did
This is true the original nsx didn’t and then they got electric power steering, sorry just being picky, great video, ep3 are awesome 👍
Gotta drop a gear or even drop 2 and don’t change till got limited ya raj 🤷🏼♂️
The car weighs nothing Jay, and it revs very quickly, lots of torque isn’t necessary with adequate gearing (which this has).
Review a DC2 Type R!
Iceman7 I agree... First Type R in the UK, voted by Evo as best front wheel drive car at the time and still hailed as one of the truly great drivers cars!
If I can I will!
JayEmm on Cars Cool..... Fingers crossed.
You need to get the DC2 integra on for review , love the EP3 ... but it doesn’t come close to the DC2
DC2 had double wishbone suspension so yea obviously it's way better..
DC2 so expensive in Ireland, around 12k:(