Panasonic Leica 9mm Makes Me Want Micro Four Thirds
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For the slight lack of sharpness, this can easily be made up for in post-production.
The edges of the image may appear faint, but only if you are very close to the subject. This focal length is not made for that, nor are other large focal lengths for that matter.
By knowing how to use it well, you can take superb photos! At least if you are a good photographer.
A weather sealed prime that is not so expensive is something special indeed!
Yes indeed, not bad😀
Great ideas for wide-angle photography. Yes, come back to the dark side (MFT).
Thanks. Dark side can be tempting...😀
A really nice, concise video with a lot of thought to it.
This is the magic of m43; lenses of 100-200gr, and an ENTIRE professional equipment under 3kg
Well put! 👌🏻
I absolutely love this with my tiny G100. Perfect travel camera.
I keep thinking about getting a 6mm or 9mm lens for my G85, but since my camera came with a 12-60mm kit lens, I don't see the need.
The 12-60 Panasonic is so good, it has spoiled me since I first got it.
I love this lens. I bought it for shooting live music so I can either get up close with the musicians, or capture the whole stage. Most gigs I just use this and a 25mm f/1.8. I also used the 9mm for shooting mushrooms, especially larger ones. I could focus super close from the ground and still fill the whole frame with the underside of the mushrooms. The only thing close that Olympus/OM System has is their 8mm f/1.8 fisheye, which you can de-fish in camera, but it’s twice the price, and it has the convex front element so you can’t use screw-in filters. When I was shooting Canon I used the 16-35mm f/2.8, but this is so much better.
Thanks for your tips.
What's the difference between musicians and mushrooms?
I'm just start using this lens in my channel and really love it.
Thanks. Good to hear you like the lens.
I love the fit of this lens on LUMIX G100. I forced myself to use just this lens on a nature walk. It gives interesting perspectives of trees, especially if you get a closeup of a low branch. I wanted this for vlogging. Still a 7:01 tight frame with G100 crop.
I saw one photographer commenting that a lot of younger people, are only really used to seeing/using phone cameras, find "traditional" portraits look odd to them, because, for example. the ultrawides you tend not to see peoples ears in a head shot. (I am far from being a "younder person", and I've learned that one of the reasons I don't like using a phone for photography is that I really can't stand the ultra wide lenses)
Yes, phone cameras are changing the way people see the world.
Ultra wide lenses are great for photographing small rooms.
True. Apple has trained all the young people into thinking the 21mmm equiv iPhone camera is "standard". And 50mm (or was that 70mm?) is now "telephoto".
I have a tiny M4/3 8mm meant for drones (SLR Magic), that I keep around for tight built-up environments and interiors. Handling is awkward, but I can get shots that I otherwise wouldn't.
Thanks. With a wide like that you don't need much handling after all. With almost unlimited DOF no need to focus much, just point and shoot.
I am a multi format shooter- APS-C Fuji and Panasonic M4/3, the last of which I got mainly for video. I mostly use Fuji for stills (and video on a tripod) and do have the excellent Fujifilm XF 14 mm f/2.8- however after a lot of debating, I have indeed decided to get the PanaLeica 9 mm f/1.7 for the M 4/3 system- it is such a special lens in the way it renders images, the form factor, the large numerical aperture and the sheer quality of the in-camera correction at this focal length. Its currently sold out but I will pick up a copy later this year.
Thanks for sharing.
It is a magnificent lens, also excellent for low light photos and astrophotography, however, with the OM1 there is the starry af function that works very well. Have fun 😊
This lens was the first new lens I bought for my MFT cameras. It permanently sits on my GH6 for video. AF is very good in video.
Thanks for sharing and good to hear you are happy with the lens.
Cool! Another great video. I can't wait to try this one out. :)
Thanks bro! Super nice wide for MFT.
Nice photos...Good Work!
Thank you! Cheers!
Get a small cup while you shop for that new LUMIX g9ii! Thanks Matti!
This lens seems rather good even if some details disappoints me a little : not full metal for a Leica is a pity to me and no aperture ring just like the 15 mm which is so nice to use (you seems to share this Matt). So it could have been better.
It’s super wide but doesn’t barrel distort like my 9mm f8 pancake lens. Time to get this lens!
I think the price difference says everything 😅
Thanks Matti. A good video. I have a 9-18mm Olympus. I don't use it anymore. I tried in in cities and some images came out fine, Especially squares with beautiful architecture. But the photos were not mine. With editing and stepping up bright colors, they could be used in a brochure to attract tourists. Too iPhone-like. I just don't have the eye for very wide angle, but luckily others have.
Thanks😀 Wide is not fo me either, but sometimes fun to experiment.
Great video. Perfect lens.
Thanks! 👍
I want this exact set up or the Laowa 6mm f2 for Real Estate photography!
I used a Nikkor 20mm 2.8 on my F3's for ages, a bit like an SWC it's marvellous not having to focus when stuff is happening quickly in front of you ........ since switching to a Panasonic GX9 with a 20mm lens aboiut a year ago I've been wondering about one of these, but as you say, they're a specialist lens so I'll rent one first to see how I get on with it ..... many thanks for your videos !!
Thanks for sharing.
G95 🎉🎉
Completely agree about the aperture ring. That is why I didn't buy it. I do really like that it is fast and rectilinear.
Thanks for sharing.
Back in the day ( early 1970s) We in the USA considered the following focal lengths to be necessary for general press work...21mm. 35mm. 105mm...I being in the military...used an old Leica IIIf with a worn and scratchy leica angulon 21/4..and a Sumaron 35/3.5...canon 100mm serener ...I also did tele with a Nikon. Nikormat and a 200/4 coke bottle tele.
Thanks for sharing. I had 24mm, 35mm and 85mm when I started out. Slightly tighter range than yours, but seemed to work well for me. Later bought more lenses, of course.
You forgot to add the link to Robin's channel!
Nice vid as always
Thanks. The link is there under the video😀
the fabulous architecture certainly contributes to these stunning images. really impressed with your results !!!
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Thanks. Yeah, I only recorded what I saw, very easy😀
A fun lens needs a fun camera! And Panasonic has plenty of those.😀
Yeah, every Lumix lens and camera😀
Congratulation! The pictures in this video are the very best of you for a long time! Really! Perfect composition!
But this fact causes me to ask......
Can it be, that a "wrong" camera (mft) and a "wrong" lens (ultra wide) led you/lead us to better images? 😏
Perhaps it is so as always in our lifes:
The easy way will us never bring up to our best results!
Size do matter, - but only in the head of the photographer
Thanks so much!
I have the Panasonic Leica 9mm F1.7 lens and I love it. I use it mainly for video, but it also works great with stills. The three key things I love are:
(1) The super wide angle plus the IBIS in my Panasonic G95 allows me to walk with the camera and still get smooth video.
(2) The F1.7 allows for low light filming.
(3) The lens can get very close to the subject.
Thanks so much for sharing.
Any chance you can give the Samyang 35mm F2.8 a shot? That thing is a E-mount FF lens that is bordering on pancake sized. While there are some chromatic aberration, and heavy vignette, distortion is non-existent, and lends well to a more vintage style.
My A7C with this lens is smaller than many old-school rangefinder cameras. I’d love to see a review.
That little 35 is interesting and in the summer (June, July) I may be able to borrow it for a video. Let's see how it goes.
Just got Leica 9mm f1.7 in Tokyo and totally fell in love with it. It's sharper than 15mm f1.7, nice color, and super fun to use.
I also bought Sigma 16-28/2.8 for my S5, but 9mm on GX9 is much more fun to use and images looked almost the same.
Hi! Great review and pictures. May I know which shopping mall you went for this shoot?
Thanks. That is Lalaport mall in Kuala Lumpur.
I got this about five months after pre-ordering. It's cheap, have light weight and is f1.7. Basically a good lens for gimbal use IMO. However, being a "Leica" lens it falls short on a few parameters IMO, it's totally plastic fantastic build quality and is missing a ring for aperture control, focus clutch, AF/MF switch, etc which might find on the more expensive "Leica" branded primes. For some this is perhaps a nice trade off to keep the price low. As for optical performance, while the center is sharp, there is a very large roll of towards the edges of the frame. So uniformity is not very good. Certainly it's no mach for the impressive optical quality of the "Leica" 10-25 mm f1.7. As usual for most m43 optics smallness is an important design factor which impacts optical quality in a negative way.
Thanks for sharing. The lens that I tried out in this video was sharp across the frame. Of course sharper in the middle, but I did not notice any significant sharpness loss towards the corners. I'd also say it seems like a really good value, but agree that for a Leica lens it should have some more goodies. As it is, it probably should be just a Lumix lens.
Thats like 18mm in ff?🤔 nice quality picture!
That's like 18mm in FF.
Hey Matti! You have to re-join the MFT club again!! Just kidding, do what is best for you. About your video and this particular lens, besides being a good wide angle and also vlogging lens. What do you think about using it for astrophotography, being so wide and with such a low aperture, despite the MFT limitations?
Loved your reflections and minimalistic shots, thank you for another good video with great shots.
Have a great time my friend!!
Thanks. I have no idea how this lens would perform in astrophotography, but on paper it looks like a decent lens for that.
No doubt this must be a fantastic lens - no wonder it's basically selling faster than they put it back on shelves.
I will certainly pick this up some time in the future.
I love my m.Zuiko 12mm f2 - that lens is FANTASTIC too.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Try the Sony 14mm 1.8 GM, it is a great Lens that I very highly can recommend and it has an aperture ring. 😊 I do not like fully articulating screens, tilt up and down are enough to hold the camera low or high.
Thanks. I've heard the Sony 14mm is very nice and maybe I have to try it some day. It would also fit on a big sensor😀
@@mattisulanto I use my Sony 14mm 1.8 GM more often than I thought before I got it ! I use it for street/urban/architecture, indoor, events, nature, landscape, astro and more, I am very happy I got it.
@@cameraprepper7938 I totally believe you and I have to ask the Sony people in Finland if I could try out the lens this summer.
@@mattisulanto Will be great, you will not be disappointed with the Sony 14mm 1.8 GM, though you cannot test it for astro in the Finnish summer ☺
@@cameraprepper7938 I probably would not test astro anyway, but in our summer it's not possible, like you said.
It's great to finally have an ultra-wide for m4/3 that has AF! It also complements the 8-25 zoom, for when you need brighter apertures at the wide end. And Matti, you shouldn't have to "buy" another m4/3 camera to use this lens--don't you have any more Lumix bodies from your days of being an ambassador?
Thanks. I have cameras for photography, but not a good video camera.
@@mattisulanto G9 has good video. Shoots 4k60
@@thewalkingvloggingman7152 I think most are impatiently waiting for the PDAF system to arrive for Panasonic Lumix G.
@@GrenlandUnderVann And it has arrived!
Wanted to buy this lens when it came out for my g9, but it’s impossible to get one in my country. Maybe it’s better in Finland.
I’ve heard similar stories from many sources and locations. I suppose it’s hard to find also in Finland.
Is there lens in MFT that similar to Tamron 50-400mm and Sony 70-200mm F4 where they have long compression zoom and also half macro? The Sony with 2X tele converter can even go to 1:1 macro but is it worth it with the tele converter?
That’s a good question and I’m sure google can help you better than I, because I’d have to google it anyway😀
Thanks Matti. I don’t want the lens but I always enjoy your videos. I tried to thank you with a coffee but the “thanks” button doesn’t respond on my iPad. Please advise. David.
Thanks. It's the thought that counts😀 You should be able to see the links below the video, if you click "show more" or something like that below the video. Anyway, here is a link for my Buy me a coffee account, if you'd like to support: www.buymeacoffee.com/sulantoblog
Hi Matti, now I think I see how to do it using the “thanks” button. Please let me know if it worked.
Cheers,
David
@@MrHasherd I think should see it in the comments, but if it's not showing up there, I can't be sure if it worked.
are there any brand that offers a compact weather resistant wide angle prime for MFT? my ideal would be somewhere between 24mm and 35mm (full frame equivalent)
Olympus and Panasonic.
Any good for astrophotography?
how much fain and dust can the 14mm 2.5 pancake lens handle?
It's difficult to say.
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Panasonic 9mm or 15mm 1.7?
I can't decide that for you.
Both!
Hey Matti, thanks for talking about the 9mm. I am on the fence about this one compared with some other potential "special use lenses" I am interested in. I want to also say that yours is one of the first YT channels that I subscribed to when I was starting to get into photography and videography...around the start of the pandemic. Thanks!
That said, and with all due respect, when I compare a previous (Aug 2022) video you made I have to wonder if there isn't some kind of continuity error 😊 going on (?)
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Sure our photography journeys can take new directions and everyone who has used/ reviewed the 9mm f1.7 seems to love it..
Hope you understand that this was an observation, NOT criticism.
No error at all. Those op-ed videos are meant to provoke discussion and thoughts. I think we all are tempted every once in a while😀
But you still have mft? Or did you completely sell all Panasonic? 😳
I still have some MFT gear, a couple of bodies and lenses too.
Lik you show, a super wide-angle lens seems to be dedicated for modern architecture shootings. But with the mft sensor you habe only 18 mm equivalent. That ist moderate wide-angle and delivers mild effects. No aperture ring is a now go. I enjoy my 7,5 mm f2.8 manual lens by IOWA. - Thanks for yor video(s) and greetings to far away.
Thanks. To me 18mm EQV is really wide already😀
It's hard to beat the Olympus 7-14 mm Pro, while it's "only" f2.8 it's certainaly a better focal range than the "Leica" 8-18 mm with it's variable aperture.That said it could be fun to have a sharp 6 mm f2 lens. Or a m43 equivalent to the Sony FE 12-24mm f/2.8 GM, a 6-12 mm f1.7 or f2.0.
Honestly, if this lens was released over a year ago, I would of kept my G80, I can handle the autofocus but I couldn't deal with the lack of actual really wide lenses that didnt require a remortgage to afford.
You're not having a bout of GAS are you Matti? Ha ha. We all like some new gadgetry to play with from time to time if we can afford it, ignoring your "take more photos don't buy gear" mantra from previous videos! Go for it I say.😀
Thanks!😀 Let's see what happens.
I love street shooting so I dislike side floppy screen... I prefer the flip down screen instead...I am an old medium format shooter... looking down is the norm... I am not a vlogger... LOL
Medium format waist level VF was also a mirror image. Would you like that too on your digital camera?😀
@@mattisulanto Yeah and video/movie making was never done with a camera designed for still photography either...It is what it is...LOL
@@georgemahlum6542 True, it was almost impossible to make movies with a Hasselblad C/M500 or Nikon F2, for example😀
I just wish you'd said "super wide angle" a few more times. Not enough...
Thanks so much, I'll keep that in mind for the future.
If you want m43 you can have mine. I'm leaving this format.
Can I really have it or would like money for it?😀