This movie definitely feels like a swan song to Scorsese's previous works. It really made me rethink to all of those previous movies and somewhat even my life. It felt like I was living through with Frank Sheeran. In this case, I'd say the length really helped the movie and seeing it all in one sitting is definitely the best way to experience it. I want so much to make a video on this movie myself too. BTW watching Goodfellas after The Irishman added a whole new meaning to it for sure.
@pyropulse LOL go easy on me man. What part of "somewhat even" was I not clear about. I do try to relate the messages movies like this give with my life. Who said only Aristotle is capable of that? r/iamverysmart smh
pyropulse you weird bro relax lmao. You know what people have serious inferior complexity issue? People like you who take there time out they day to say some weird shit and come at somebody else when they did nothing to you. You’re not intellectual at all. You’re ignorant.
Goodfellas is like a speeding corvette. Beautiful car recklessly driving its way into a crash and subsequent demise. The Irishman is like a Cadillac slowly depreciating and breaking down as time goes on. What was once a beautiful car now worthless after all the years and effort you’ve spent keeping it going..
Colin Sushiboy only because this generation doesn’t appreciate art. I myself am a deep thinker and The Irishman put me in a mood for like 24 hours. Emotionally speaking, Goodfellas just wasn’t deep like it’s counterpart.
@@jarredoliveira3766 You had to ruin an okay analogy with some 'this generation' tirade. Art has existed since almost the dawn of man. We have art dating back thousands of years that still exists to this day. And you think this generation - the generation with the best access to knowledge, information and communication - somehow collectively lacks the ability to appreciate art in ways that all previous generations didn't lack this ability? Give me a break lol. I'm part of this generation and I loved the Irishman too. I won't self-anoint myself as a deep thinker or brag about some emotional 24 hours in a state sort of thing, but I enjoyed myself seeing it as part of London film festival, having my first legally obtained drink in one hand & free popcorn in the other. If there is any generational disconnect though it would likely be due to the mature retrospective take on the gangster life that the movie offers, *not* because of a generation failing to appreciate art. I mean the video essay itself is a success of the UA-cam gen, and Scorsese is mainstream hardly arthouse or anything only cinephiles can appreciate
This is an absolutely wonderful video. Another link I found between Goodfellas and The Irishman is in the death dates; only a few characters die later than 1978-1980, showcasing how severe the generational shift in the mob was. Almost everybody from Frank's generation were killed to make space for the newcomers (Henry's generation) who focused moreso on selling drugs. This leads really well into the themes of both Goodfellas and The Irishman - Goodfellas is about that generational shift, and The Irishman is about the general shift of time, and the grim deaths of many gangsters.
Actually Goodfellas was in Frank's generation of mobsters. Remember Henry Hill was caught around 1980 (plane chasing Henry's car scene). Frank was also imprisoned in 1980 after Hoffa's death. Everyone in Casino also got caught in the late 70s. And all those other mobsters also got killed/imprisoned in 1978-80 (in the Irishman). So I guess there was a law crackdown on the Mob around that time.
@@Trx-ep7rg I think I misspoke in my eager to share the detail - I didn't necessarily mean "generation" as in a generation of age, but rather a generation of thought. Goodfellas focuses on this change in thought, from the old-timers like Paulie, making their businesses off protection money, to the newcomers selling drugs, like Henry. The death dates in The Irishman highlights how violent this change of business was, by showing how all the old-fashioned Italian mobsters were killed in around the time drugs were introduced.
@@Trx-ep7rg And yes, as you mentioned, there was a crackdown from the police around that time. Mainly because of the drugs, that forced many to flip and bring down entire organisations to avoid jail time.
When it came out, I thought "Wolf of Wall Street" was the spiritual successor to Goodfellas/Casino. The same type of film with Wall Street replacing the mafia. The Irishman has very little in common with Wolf of Wall Street except its director and length, but you can trace them both back to the same parents, and the contrasts are very interesting.
The violent scene are so different they are realistic and raw in the irishman like they did not really want to film them, but they needed to do it, but maybe it's just me
The Trip Trap I think the reason they portrayed the killing scenes in that way is that since they’re told from Frank Sheeran’s memory like the rest of the movie, his older self probably felt uncomfortable remembering the violence in his career and tried to downplay it even though we can clear see it for what it is.
@@ibnmianal-buna3176 Na. It's actually that violence isn't how you see in movies. People don't gasp on the ground for their last breath. All it takes is a second to end a life and it's done. That was the point of those scenes.
I was talking about difference from other Scorsese film, like Casinò, the violente scene of Pesci are more, pass this word, glorified they are exciting and I felt them (violent scene) differently in this film, I was not interested in a real life comparison but in this sense they were more realistic for sure
I said the same. That scene in The Irishman at the Clam House was insane!! Even right before when Dinero explained the importance of choosing the right weapon was gold. People don’t even realize just how realistic it was
I've figured that the opening shot in "The Irishman" doesn't focus on anyone other than Frank because they are all "nobodies". Which is mentioned in Goodfella's.
Incredible video. Excellent analysis, editing, and narration. I used to love Tony Zhou's videos over at Every Frame a Painting, and your videos are at the same level of craft and insight. Well done.
Thematically, The Irishman does build on echoes of Goodfellas. In a literal and historic sense though, it builds on Casino. A central part of the plot of the Irishman is that it examines Hoffa’s links to the mafia because the mafia were able to obtain loans via Hoffa out of the Teamster’s pension fund as that was the only way they could access such large sums of money. The Irishman makes much of the link between the mafia and political figures like Kennedy because the Mob aspired to achieve what it wasn’t able to do in Cuba. The main theme of Casino is of course concerned with happens when wise guys get control of the casinos. The lament at the end of the film being that ‘it would be the last time guys like us ever get our hands on something like this’ after it all goes wrong. The Mob used the casinos as their money tree, “skimming money off the top”. Casino shows the fruits of what Hoffa created in the Irishman The Irishman, in this context, is the preface to Casino.
4:46 That breakfast scene in the Irishman reminded me of a couple waking up next morning after a big fight. There's so much focus on the mundane, just to avoid seeing that elephant in the room.
I absolutely LOVED Joe Pesci's performance in this movie! It's so different from his other more intense roles we're used to seeing him in, and the thing is that he does a supremely, fantastic, job portraying a soft-spoken shot caller.
I laughed at Joe Pesci's diagnoses of Deniro's truck trouble..."It's the timing chain", after he jiggled few spark plug wires. Next time talk to real mechanic for some ideas.
@@drbrochette9346 Of all the things to skimp out on, in a production like this, it seems like this is a good choice. But the fact remains that any homegrown/professional mechanic are gonna call bull, and all it would have taken to fix it is a call to a mechanic: "Hey I'm working on this scene where my two main characters meet for the first time, and I wanna know if a timing chain could be a thing that would work here?".
Brilliant video! Like many of Scorsese’s films,The Irishman didn’t win the major awards but its status will just increase over time.... and one day will be appreciated as the true masterpiece it is.
"The Irishman" is a marvelous film. There is however, a big "however", and that is, if one doesn't have a grasp of organized crime history, or Cuban/Bay of Pigs gun-running history, or Hoffa disappearance theory, then one is probably going to be a bit lost in following the movie.
I literally had no idea about who Hoffa was? Yet I believe The Irishman is masterpiece. The movie will be disliked or not very much appreciated if people go in expecting something like goodfellas, or usually people who dont really prefer slow movies.
I disagree. It's a very good film, maybe even great, but not a masterpiece. Scorsese already has a few films that can be classified as masterpieces, but this isn't it. I'd say that even Silence is more deserving of the title of masterpiece, if we're looking at his recent work.
I also would like to add two details presented in The Irishman that work as direct callbacks to Goodfellas. The first one being at the beginning of the film, where the house from which DeNiro and Pesci are walkin out is the same house of Lorraine Braco's character in Goodfellas. The second "easter egg" per say, is the inclusion of the Pretend You Don't See Her, a song that plays in one the most significant scenes of Goodfellas and it's brought to The Irishman as a instrumental version in the scene where (SPOILERS) DeNiro finally realises there's no way out alive for Jimmy Hoffa. A truly amazing moment!
Henry got busted because he didn’t listen to Paulie. Frank got busted because he listened to Russ. Sam didn’t get busted because he didn’t listen to Nicki. Eric didn’t get busted because he listened to Sonny Green. It doesn’t matter if you listen to your boss or not, you can either get busted or not get busted.
The difference between Goodfellas and The Irishman is the difference between Scorsese, De Niro, and Pesci in their 40s and their 70s or as De Niro put it: "The Irishman is about getting older. It's about what is happening with us."
I'm swedish and I was totally weirded out when the first character info popup thing showed up in swedish I was like did I choose enlish as subtitle or what? how does Netflix know I'm swedish.. It freaked me out at first then I was like.. Oh yea, Netflix probably knows everything about me.. I am swedish and had english subtitles but the character info was all in swedish for some reason.. Made them pop out more TBH. I liked it alot.
This movie needs to be redone on the deep fake( get young app) and re released... That deep fake is 1000 times better than the technology used by scorcese and Netflix..
Fat Andy is in prison for being a dirty cop along with his long time partner!!! Im not sure if those two are alive or not but im sure they both received a life sentence for their involvement with the mob and murder!!!
The Irishman feels like the epilogue to a life lived to the fullest, yet a life that ultimately feels unfulfilling. A brilliant meditation on old age, regret and betrayal. Scorsese, we bow to you.
The Irishman compared to Goodfellas is just like Once Upon a Time in the West compared to The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. It revisits the well trodden path of an old exciting classic in a more mature and honest way.
Well, if I could do such garbage at age 80, maan. I guess that's not what people call Alzheimer. Learn to appreciate stuff buddy, for your own sake. Wish you happy holidays
I think it was for the best that he wasn't involved. Allowed the Irishman to stand on its own feet rather than being an attempt to recapture what made Goodfellas good or to profit off of that film's rep. Also allowed people like Stephen Graham to take the spotlight for his largest career role. Like The Irishman is a retrospective of the gangster genre & the careers of all involved, but it's *not* Goodfellas Pt 2, you know?
Ray Liotta could have been better because he is 10 years younger than De Niro, it would have elp in some of the scenes he was younger. but Ray Liotta had plastic surgery a few years ago and his face looks all fucked now.
I saw someone else point this out before, but scorceses work seems to show ever higher echelons of mob life. Mean streets -> Low level street hoods trying to get noticed. Goodfellas -> 'working class' mobsters Casino -> 'Upper Class' mobsters And the Irishman shows the dudes at the very top.
Yes, a huge takeaway I got from this was no matter how powerful any of these bosses were, ultimately leading this life leads you to one of two things: getting whacked or rotting in jail.
Totally agree, partially why I love WOW so much. Its like the Wall street version of Goodfellas. Less murder, more drugs. Still shot/presented in his fast-paced, quickcut style that drew to him in the first place. Irishman was good but to me, missing the fast cuts, zoom-ins, etc. The look wasn't exactly what I was hoping for but still good.I say, if you want a Scorsese movie with Irish in the mob, watch The Departed. Amazing film.
It feels like the conclusion to a trilogy, starting with Goodfellas, introducing these themes and ideas about violence and excess with a fresh young perspective. To be continued with casino, which expands the same themes much like a sequel would do, introducing hints of doubt that it may not be worth it all, showing a slightly more matured take. The Irishman feels like a conclusion, continuing with the same themes and drawing lots of visual parallels to both, this time from the perspective of an older man. It feels like a natural and perfect trilogy.
Goodfellas: "What do you do?" "What?" "What do you do?" "I'm in construction" "I don't feel like you're in construction" "Well, I'm a union delegate" The Irishman: "I heard you paint houses" "I do my own carpentry work too" Two great films. Well done Scorsese (and everyone else who helped)
Nah, it won't be. Scorsese has still got all the brilliance and craft in him that he had decades ago, and never seems to be short of projects he wants to work on. Sidney Lumet, another great filmmaker that was in some ways the precursor of Scorsese, kept making films into his mid-80s.
It certainly won’t be his last but it certainly felt a hell of a lot like it. The Irishman has a final sort of feeling, that’s probably way it sort of feels like his last. The only person in this film who I think that we won’t see anymore after this film is Joe Pesci, The Irishman will definitely be Pesci’s final film. But, in my eyes, it’s the absolute best way to go out, his performance is just magnificent!
I think The Irishman is like Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven, it tells you the story of the character who is usually depicted in his prime but set when he was older and well past his prime. I don't think Scorsese removed the glamour so much as there is no glamour when you're still doing the same crimes in your 50s and 60s as you did when you were younger. In Goodfellas, Henry is married and has a girlfriend, which is played like he's having a good time in life. In The Irishman, Frank straight up leaves his family, not much glamour in that. Oh, and at the end Frank can't find redemption because he's a psycho and has no clue at the wrong he has done. This is why he has no regrets to express. He asks his daughter if there's anything he can do or say to fix things, lol, decades after it matters.
@pyropulse I'm sure I remember a scene in there where his voiceover says something like "There's never a good time to leave your wife..." and that's when he left.
flibber123 He just divorced that wife. He then remarried and stayed a family man, his second wife later died of natural causes a little after he got out of prison.
Francel 01 Well, that allegedly how they died in real life. Scorcese has pointed out that mob life seems glamorous, but never ends well. You end up either brutally murdered or in jail...or both
I had to watch The Irishman twice to really get it. The first time I was distracted by the CGI that ended up being what everyone talked about afterwards. I took a day and went back in and that's when I got it. I saw how it was Marty's farewell to the genre. A genre he both helped create and perfect and now that he's towards the end of his journey he put a lot of that on the screen, as to say "If you mistook my previous work (Goodfellas) for glamour and excitement, take a look at the best case scenario to how the life ends up."
Love the Irishman film about life betrayal friendship death nostalgia and regret a man looking back at his life with painn regret Wondering where it went wrong love it... U feel like U lived his life and that song brings those memories back best film feel like U lived their life
Uh huh......"similar scenes and techniques"....two guys from Philly who speak with Bronx accents, and a guy from Brazil, Indiana who speaks with a Bronx accent.
Scorsese's Goodfellas is much like Kurosawa's Seven Samurais (A thrill ride but violent) Scorsese's The Irishmen = Kurosawa's Ran, I.E more reflective/meditative etc That's the way I see it
When you put the two clips together of Henry going on that cocaine fueled errand with the scene where Rus and Frank are just driving over to the airport, it's jarring and kind of funny.
When The Wolf of Wall Street came out, people were talking about it being the 'final chapter' to Goodfellas-Casino story, and I hated that this could never be a trilogy. What a GIFT it is to receive the appropriate final chapter to Scorsese's epic gangster story
To me, it's more of a quadrilogy with Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino, and The Irishman. Goes from the young pawns in Mean Streets to the Middle Men in Goodfellas to the Top Guys in Casino to the guys that made it all the way to old age. In a way, it's one long linear thematic story threaded through these 4 movies.
@@jameschristenbury2625 What is it a tetralogy with those 4 films? The Departed? The Departed fits with the theme of all of those movies: Crime not only doesn't pay, it hurts. It hurts everything. It hurts society, it hurts its victims, it hurts the criminals themselves. Even if they don't die, they end up like Frank in The Irishman. Pathetic and haunted.
the irishman feels like the final part of Scrosese's unofficial Deniro/Pesci italian mob trilogy that included goodfellas, and Casino. (Raging Bull doesn't count in my opinion because although it did have some mob elements it was for the most part a boxing movie)
Stealthy99 I always saw The Departed as more of a cop film featuring the Irish Mob, rather than a mob film itself, especially when you discover that Frank Costello is an FBI informant, the story all ties back into the world of law enforcement rather than the mob’s world.
Charlie To0 Human Yeah I can’t disagree with that, but to me it always felt like a Scorsese “gangster movie”. In my mind I’d always compare it to the likes of Goodfellas or Casino, even though it undoubtedly depicts mob life in a completely different way.
The way this film dealt with regret, the things we miss out on in life when we're too involved with something else and the inevitable end of our lives really says something about where Scorsese's head is at right now. At some point we will all be at the end of our lives, sitting in a room alone with nothing to do but reflect on the choices we've made. Thank you Marty
3 hours of great storytelling and I loved it. Scorsese knows how to make a great storytelling movie and we here have huge respects for him. One of the best film directors always keeps it up.
So many of my friends and colleagues hated Irishman because it was so stylistically different from GoodFellas and Casino. I had to keep telling them that that was the point. Thanks for extrapolating on that point.
The utter loneliness is what I remember about the Irishman Scorcese pounded us over the head with the loneliness, the emptiness of the end results of such a life. Sure he had the money for a beautiful casket, a stately place to rest his body after death...but the regret, the worries about his soul in the afterlife, the desire to speak to a daughter who wanted nothing to do with him I left the theater at 11:30 pm and all I could think about was loneliness Well done
People talking shit about their ages who gives a fuck it's legendary actors all in a movie together I thought Irishman was great I could care less if they were 90 years old I'd still watch it
I think we have to pay attention to the message Scorsese wants to tell us. "You don't know hoy fast the time goes until you get here", you could be the most violent gangster, but time it's the perfect assassin and it will get you someday too. In The Irishman we see how Frank's friends die slowly one by one, and how he gets alone while aging... Time is the most ruthless killer, an no one can escape from it, you will be alone like Frank someday... And there is nothing you can even do to avoid it.
at the very end of the film when de Niro is sitting in his seat in the old folks home I had a flash back to a young de Niro fighting on the pool table in the bar with a pool cue in mean streets and I got teary eyed
This is what I thought, I need to watch yet another mafia movie particularly with de niro in it. Honestly it's been done to death, resurrected and murdered again.
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Absolutely incredible review, Thomas. The shakiness of the opening shot is something I noticed but never realized it’s symbolism. Love your channel, man.
Irishman is to mob movies of the golden era what Unforgiven was to westerns of the same period.. All glamour stripped away. All mythology stripped bare. It is fitting that the base thread is two old men and their wives taking a meandering journey in a car. A little on the nose having them stop at the place their journey together began but... Remember how Wiener got mad at the fans of the Soprano's for worshiping Tony the sociopath and so left his end ambiguous as a kind of final insult? Maybe Martin did the same here: By only cutting this to 31/2 hours. This could have easily been a hour shorter, but it would have accentuated the action segments too much. It focuses on the mundanity of this man's life for the most part. Even the hits he performs are laid out like describing a trip to the bathroom. He even includes ..a trip to the bathroom in one - just to make sure we get it. A long boring trip, with wife's literally "along for the ride", punctuated with occasional stops to extort actual "working stiffs" culminating in the brutal betrayal of a friend. An epilogue showing him ending up utterly alone. The family he used as an excuse for all of his brutality - ultimately abandoning him because of it.
I was born in 99 to me Goodfellas was the coolest film i ever watch i even went on to do crazy shit myself All that gangsta shit seemed beautiful and Gloryfied then the Irish man made me sad id rather be dead than live like to me that is living like a Schnook lol ahaa Goodfellas is the Prime of bein a gangster irishman like being a Ghost after the glory days passed
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@@harrysavvides5655 "who got that nickname because he said everything twice like....."
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This movie definitely feels like a swan song to Scorsese's previous works. It really made me rethink to all of those previous movies and somewhat even my life. It felt like I was living through with Frank Sheeran. In this case, I'd say the length really helped the movie and seeing it all in one sitting is definitely the best way to experience it. I want so much to make a video on this movie myself too. BTW watching Goodfellas after The Irishman added a whole new meaning to it for sure.
@pyropulse LOL go easy on me man. What part of "somewhat even" was I not clear about. I do try to relate the messages movies like this give with my life. Who said only Aristotle is capable of that?
r/iamverysmart smh
@pyropulse Chill out bro. haha
pyropulse you weird bro relax lmao. You know what people have serious inferior complexity issue? People like you who take there time out they day to say some weird shit and come at somebody else when they did nothing to you. You’re not intellectual at all. You’re ignorant.
Goodfellas is like a speeding corvette. Beautiful car recklessly driving its way into a crash and subsequent demise.
The Irishman is like a Cadillac slowly depreciating and breaking down as time goes on. What was once a beautiful car now worthless after all the years and effort you’ve spent keeping it going..
Irishman is more like a rusty boring almost dead bmx bike. Compared to goodfellas which is a new Lamborghini lol.
Colin Sushiboy only because this generation doesn’t appreciate art. I myself am a deep thinker and The Irishman put me in a mood for like 24 hours. Emotionally speaking, Goodfellas just wasn’t deep like it’s counterpart.
You guys simply don’t appreciate art.
@@jarredoliveira3766 You had to ruin an okay analogy with some 'this generation' tirade.
Art has existed since almost the dawn of man. We have art dating back thousands of years that still exists to this day. And you think this generation - the generation with the best access to knowledge, information and communication - somehow collectively lacks the ability to appreciate art in ways that all previous generations didn't lack this ability? Give me a break lol.
I'm part of this generation and I loved the Irishman too. I won't self-anoint myself as a deep thinker or brag about some emotional 24 hours in a state sort of thing, but I enjoyed myself seeing it as part of London film festival, having my first legally obtained drink in one hand & free popcorn in the other.
If there is any generational disconnect though it would likely be due to the mature retrospective take on the gangster life that the movie offers, *not* because of a generation failing to appreciate art. I mean the video essay itself is a success of the UA-cam gen, and Scorsese is mainstream hardly arthouse or anything only cinephiles can appreciate
Kaizer.Beatz you didn’t have to go that deep, i’m a millennial and I agree with him
This is an absolutely wonderful video. Another link I found between Goodfellas and The Irishman is in the death dates; only a few characters die later than 1978-1980, showcasing how severe the generational shift in the mob was. Almost everybody from Frank's generation were killed to make space for the newcomers (Henry's generation) who focused moreso on selling drugs. This leads really well into the themes of both Goodfellas and The Irishman - Goodfellas is about that generational shift, and The Irishman is about the general shift of time, and the grim deaths of many gangsters.
Actually Goodfellas was in Frank's generation of mobsters. Remember Henry Hill was caught around 1980 (plane chasing Henry's car scene). Frank was also imprisoned in 1980 after Hoffa's death. Everyone in Casino also got caught in the late 70s. And all those other mobsters also got killed/imprisoned in 1978-80 (in the Irishman). So I guess there was a law crackdown on the Mob around that time.
Trx 1136 wasn’t it different in Florida though where the drug scheme took off in the 80s there or is that just the media?
@@COOLMCDEN Yeah the 80's was full of cocaine (like Scarface) but that wasn't the Italian Mafia, it was just drug dealers
@@Trx-ep7rg I think I misspoke in my eager to share the detail - I didn't necessarily mean "generation" as in a generation of age, but rather a generation of thought. Goodfellas focuses on this change in thought, from the old-timers like Paulie, making their businesses off protection money, to the newcomers selling drugs, like Henry. The death dates in The Irishman highlights how violent this change of business was, by showing how all the old-fashioned Italian mobsters were killed in around the time drugs were introduced.
@@Trx-ep7rg And yes, as you mentioned, there was a crackdown from the police around that time. Mainly because of the drugs, that forced many to flip and bring down entire organisations to avoid jail time.
When it came out, I thought "Wolf of Wall Street" was the spiritual successor to Goodfellas/Casino. The same type of film with Wall Street replacing the mafia.
The Irishman has very little in common with Wolf of Wall Street except its director and length, but you can trace them both back to the same parents, and the contrasts are very interesting.
The violent scene are so different they are realistic and raw in the irishman like they did not really want to film them, but they needed to do it, but maybe it's just me
The Trip Trap I think the reason they portrayed the killing scenes in that way is that since they’re told from Frank Sheeran’s memory like the rest of the movie, his older self probably felt uncomfortable remembering the violence in his career and tried to downplay it even though we can clear see it for what it is.
@@ibnmianal-buna3176 Na. It's actually that violence isn't how you see in movies. People don't gasp on the ground for their last breath. All it takes is a second to end a life and it's done. That was the point of those scenes.
It was so matter of fact becuase that's just how the mob deals with it
I was talking about difference from other Scorsese film, like Casinò, the violente scene of Pesci are more, pass this word, glorified they are exciting and I felt them (violent scene) differently in this film, I was not interested in a real life comparison but in this sense they were more realistic for sure
I said the same. That scene in The Irishman at the Clam House was insane!! Even right before when Dinero explained the importance of choosing the right weapon was gold. People don’t even realize just how realistic it was
I've figured that the opening shot in "The Irishman" doesn't focus on anyone other than Frank because they are all "nobodies". Which is mentioned in Goodfella's.
Incredible video. Excellent analysis, editing, and narration. I used to love Tony Zhou's videos over at Every Frame a Painting, and your videos are at the same level of craft and insight. Well done.
Thematically, The Irishman does build on echoes of Goodfellas. In a literal and historic sense though, it builds on Casino. A central part of the plot of the Irishman is that it examines Hoffa’s links to the mafia because the mafia were able to obtain loans via Hoffa out of the Teamster’s pension fund as that was the only way they could access such large sums of money. The Irishman makes much of the link between the mafia and political figures like Kennedy because the Mob aspired to achieve what it wasn’t able to do in Cuba.
The main theme of Casino is of course concerned with happens when wise guys get control of the casinos. The lament at the end of the film being that ‘it would be the last time guys like us ever get our hands on something like this’ after it all goes wrong. The Mob used the casinos as their money tree, “skimming money off the top”. Casino shows the fruits of what Hoffa created in the Irishman
The Irishman, in this context, is the preface to Casino.
4:46 That breakfast scene in the Irishman reminded me of a couple waking up next morning after a big fight. There's so much focus on the mundane, just to avoid seeing that elephant in the room.
I immediately noticed how similar Hoffa and Tommy’s “disappearances” were
This was personally my favorite film for Marty
I absolutely LOVED Joe Pesci's performance in this movie!
It's so different from his other more intense roles we're used to seeing him in, and the thing is that he does a supremely, fantastic, job portraying a soft-spoken shot caller.
I laughed at Joe Pesci's diagnoses of Deniro's truck trouble..."It's the timing chain", after he jiggled few spark plug wires. Next time talk to real mechanic for some ideas.
It’s a detail tho, not really important
@@drbrochette9346 But it's part of the big picture
BengalinTiikeri But it’s nothing, won’t ruin a movie of make it less good. Not important.
@@drbrochette9346 Of all the things to skimp out on, in a production like this, it seems like this is a good choice. But the fact remains that any homegrown/professional mechanic are gonna call bull, and all it would have taken to fix it is a call to a mechanic: "Hey I'm working on this scene where my two main characters meet for the first time, and I wanna know if a timing chain could be a thing that would work here?".
@@drbrochette9346 Indefensible...
Brilliant video!
Like many of Scorsese’s films,The Irishman didn’t win the major awards but its status will just increase over time....
and one day will be appreciated as the true masterpiece it is.
Love a new Thomas Flight vid.
"The Irishman" is a marvelous film. There is however, a big "however", and that is, if one doesn't have a grasp of organized crime history, or Cuban/Bay of Pigs gun-running history, or Hoffa disappearance theory, then one is probably going to be a bit lost in following the movie.
Sure, but I think the movie does a pretty good job at informing the viewer about what exactly is going on.
This movie isnt for everyone
@@CharlieTooHuman I would disagree. For example, the pin on Bufalino's coat is alluded to w/o elaboration.
I had no idea about who Hoffa is, myself being from Eastern Europe, and it was alright. The film does explain what it has to
I literally had no idea about who Hoffa was? Yet I believe The Irishman is masterpiece.
The movie will be disliked or not very much appreciated if people go in expecting something like goodfellas, or usually people who dont really prefer slow movies.
The Irishman is a modern masterpiece
I have spoken.
Sharanyo Paul it’s not
@@abuferasabdullah It is
Abu Feras Abdullah it definitely is.
I disagree. It's a very good film, maybe even great, but not a masterpiece. Scorsese already has a few films that can be classified as masterpieces, but this isn't it. I'd say that even Silence is more deserving of the title of masterpiece, if we're looking at his recent work.
Probably my top film of 2019 🤔 Parasite was another fav of mine.
Joker was the best of 2019.
Decepticon Leader I disagree with you, but I respect your opinion
I also would like to add two details presented in The Irishman that work as direct callbacks to Goodfellas. The first one being at the beginning of the film, where the house from which DeNiro and Pesci are walkin out is the same house of Lorraine Braco's character in Goodfellas. The second "easter egg" per say, is the inclusion of the Pretend You Don't See Her, a song that plays in one the most significant scenes of Goodfellas and it's brought to The Irishman as a instrumental version in the scene where (SPOILERS) DeNiro finally realises there's no way out alive for Jimmy Hoffa. A truly amazing moment!
Trust me. Goodfellas and The Irishman have some hugely similar scenes. Specially that meat truck, that phone booth and various other things.
2:45 "im gonna go get the papers, get the papers"
The camera work is similar because this is Scorcese's style. If you watch his filmography you'll see this in a lot of his movies.
It's a great film! Scorsese always nails it with the music!
Make a video about how Martin Scorsese's films deal with Catholic themes.
Nice analysis. It’s really more his signature than a sequel I think.
I’m gonna go get the papers, get the papers
Leni Riefenstahl came up with the trekking shot from the 1935 great film triumph of the will
Sorry, this isn't related to the video, but I love that you used the theme from the Third Man at the end!
Anyone been able to point out that the plane in the Irishman has some sick Garmin GTN 750 Touchscreens?
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Irishman follows similar to that of Goodfellows like this video is explaining but remember the Once upon a time in America.
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Henry got busted because he didn’t listen to Paulie. Frank got busted because he listened to Russ. Sam didn’t get busted because he didn’t listen to Nicki. Eric didn’t get busted because he listened to Sonny Green. It doesn’t matter if you listen to your boss or not, you can either get busted or not get busted.
To be honest both of the movies are good
Is a fucking Masterpiece.
Dont forget in Goodfellas he says something about crazy joe whacking a boss and starting a war. In the narration.
what are all the films playing at the end during the Mubi part? I recognized most of them but not all...
Great video! Interesting comparison. Thoroughly done.
Take notes boys, take notes
Don't forget Casino. Same actors, very similar scenes, narrated all of them...
The difference between Goodfellas and The Irishman is the difference between Scorsese, De Niro, and Pesci in their 40s and their 70s or as De Niro put it: "The Irishman is about getting older. It's about what is happening with us."
I'm swedish and I was totally weirded out when the first character info popup thing showed up in swedish I was like did I choose enlish as subtitle or what? how does Netflix know I'm swedish.. It freaked me out at first then I was like.. Oh yea, Netflix probably knows everything about me..
I am swedish and had english subtitles but the character info was all in swedish for some reason.. Made them pop out more TBH. I liked it alot.
The irishman is a combination of all martain's work
some of these feel like reaching a little bit. a little bit.
What’s the song in the clip from 1:27-1:32 ???
This movie needs to be redone on the deep fake( get young app) and re released...
That deep fake is 1000 times better than the technology used by scorcese and Netflix..
The Irishman picked up all the unused dialogue from Goodfellas
Did you copy Nerdwriter's style or did he copy yours...
What is the film the asian with shotgun in The end of video?
Fat Andy is in prison for being a dirty cop along with his long time partner!!! Im not sure if those two are alive or not but im sure they both received a life sentence for their involvement with the mob and murder!!!
The Irishman feels like the epilogue to a life lived to the fullest, yet a life that ultimately feels unfulfilling. A brilliant meditation on old age, regret and betrayal. Scorsese, we bow to you.
this sounds more like u getting on your knees than bowing
I don’t bow to no living man alive. Have some goddamn self respect.
@@basitk12 what's wrong with showing respect? Get your head out of your ass.
Scorsese we stand and applaud you.
Exceptionally well said.
The Irishman compared to Goodfellas is just like Once Upon a Time in the West compared to The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. It revisits the well trodden path of an old exciting classic in a more mature and honest way.
Bryan Chu well said or well put.👍🏻
Spot on
the 1968 version? of once upon
akshay Viswambharan Only 3 times!? Ha scrub!
Well, if I could do such garbage at age 80, maan. I guess that's not what people call Alzheimer. Learn to appreciate stuff buddy, for your own sake. Wish you happy holidays
I'm a relatively young guy. But The Irishman scared the shit out of me in regards to becoming old.
Watch when ya hit 50 your gonna say where did the time go it goes quicker the older you get
it scared the shit out of me in that regard too
@@enlightenedwarrior7119 facts
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Same I’d rather die young then end up in a nursing home
What I couldn’t believe was that The Irishman was the first feature-length DeNiro/Scorsese collaboration since 95’s Casino.
Marty took a real shine to Leo, starting with Gangs of New York
mcv86 Yeah. Leo was definitely a significant fork in the road he probably wasn’t expecting. Can’t saw I ain’t satisfied with the result of it though.
It's also the first Scorcesse/Pacino collaboration ever
What about “The Family”?
@@gabrielzamarron that wasn’t Scorsese
A shame Ray Liotta wasn't in The Irishman
they didn't want to add spaghetti with Marinara sauce in the contract so he refused
I think it was for the best that he wasn't involved. Allowed the Irishman to stand on its own feet rather than being an attempt to recapture what made Goodfellas good or to profit off of that film's rep. Also allowed people like Stephen Graham to take the spotlight for his largest career role.
Like The Irishman is a retrospective of the gangster genre & the careers of all involved, but it's *not* Goodfellas Pt 2, you know?
Ray Liotta could have been better because he is 10 years younger than De Niro, it would have elp in some of the scenes he was younger.
but Ray Liotta had plastic surgery a few years ago and his face looks all fucked now.
@@happyplaceforever101 De Niro is leagues better of an actor than Ray.
Coulda played a driver or something
I saw someone else point this out before, but scorceses work seems to show ever higher echelons of mob life.
Mean streets -> Low level street hoods trying to get noticed.
Goodfellas -> 'working class' mobsters
Casino -> 'Upper Class' mobsters
And the Irishman shows the dudes at the very top.
The Irishman also shows the end. The mob lost power and the then all powerful bosses and hitmen end up rotting in prison or asylums, old and alone.
Probably read my comment somewhere lol
Yes, a huge takeaway I got from this was no matter how powerful any of these bosses were, ultimately leading this life leads you to one of two things: getting whacked or rotting in jail.
Even Al Pacino's character admits they're not the very top
Wolf of Wall Street - the system behind it all
The wolf of wall street is also extremely reminiscent of goodfellas, especially where the fbi storm the offices while Leo tells story over footage
Totally agree, partially why I love WOW so much. Its like the Wall street version of Goodfellas. Less murder, more drugs. Still shot/presented in his fast-paced, quickcut style that drew to him in the first place. Irishman was good but to me, missing the fast cuts, zoom-ins, etc. The look wasn't exactly what I was hoping for but still good.I say, if you want a Scorsese movie with Irish in the mob, watch The Departed. Amazing film.
@@b.a.p.2731 The Departed is good, but i'd say The Irishman is much better.
I saw "The Irishman" for the sixth time, today. I've seen "GoodFellas" many dozens of times. Both are masterpieces.
It's Scorsese. Can't go wrong.
dkelly26666 damn have you been watching for 24 hours
@@wyattnyfeler7270 No, I saw "GoodFellas" when it was brand new, and have had 30 years to see it many times.
It feels like the conclusion to a trilogy, starting with Goodfellas, introducing these themes and ideas about violence and excess with a fresh young perspective. To be continued with casino, which expands the same themes much like a sequel would do, introducing hints of doubt that it may not be worth it all, showing a slightly more matured take. The Irishman feels like a conclusion, continuing with the same themes and drawing lots of visual parallels to both, this time from the perspective of an older man. It feels like a natural and perfect trilogy.
trilogy ? what about mean streets damnt it !
@@tareklegrand7747 Mean streets wasnt really a gangster movie. It was about small time street conmen.
@@dawsondjodvorj2408 should add the departed though
Goodfellas:
"What do you do?"
"What?"
"What do you do?"
"I'm in construction"
"I don't feel like you're in construction"
"Well, I'm a union delegate"
The Irishman:
"I heard you paint houses"
"I do my own carpentry work too"
Two great films. Well done Scorsese (and everyone else who helped)
The sadest relization in this movie is we had the feeling of this is Scorsese's retirement film
Except it isn’t. He’s already filming a new movie with Leonardo DiCaprio.
Nah, it won't be. Scorsese has still got all the brilliance and craft in him that he had decades ago, and never seems to be short of projects he wants to work on. Sidney Lumet, another great filmmaker that was in some ways the precursor of Scorsese, kept making films into his mid-80s.
@@mitchm0 The movie hes doing with DiCaprio is his last one right?
It certainly won’t be his last but it certainly felt a hell of a lot like it. The Irishman has a final sort of feeling, that’s probably way it sort of feels like his last. The only person in this film who I think that we won’t see anymore after this film is Joe Pesci, The Irishman will definitely be Pesci’s final film. But, in my eyes, it’s the absolute best way to go out, his performance is just magnificent!
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I think The Irishman is like Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven, it tells you the story of the character who is usually depicted in his prime but set when he was older and well past his prime. I don't think Scorsese removed the glamour so much as there is no glamour when you're still doing the same crimes in your 50s and 60s as you did when you were younger. In Goodfellas, Henry is married and has a girlfriend, which is played like he's having a good time in life. In The Irishman, Frank straight up leaves his family, not much glamour in that. Oh, and at the end Frank can't find redemption because he's a psycho and has no clue at the wrong he has done. This is why he has no regrets to express. He asks his daughter if there's anything he can do or say to fix things, lol, decades after it matters.
@pyropulse I'm sure I remember a scene in there where his voiceover says something like "There's never a good time to leave your wife..." and that's when he left.
flibber123 He just divorced that wife. He then remarried and stayed a family man, his second wife later died of natural causes a little after he got out of prison.
2:45 'I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers'
Apparently almost every character in The irishman die by multiple shot in the face in a parking lot in 1980
Francel 01 Well, that allegedly how they died in real life. Scorcese has pointed out that mob life seems glamorous, but never ends well. You end up either brutally murdered or in jail...or both
People always say the 80s was a wild year
I had to watch The Irishman twice to really get it. The first time I was distracted by the CGI that ended up being what everyone talked about afterwards. I took a day and went back in and that's when I got it. I saw how it was Marty's farewell to the genre. A genre he both helped create and perfect and now that he's towards the end of his journey he put a lot of that on the screen, as to say "If you mistook my previous work (Goodfellas) for glamour and excitement, take a look at the best case scenario to how the life ends up."
What CGI lol
Kakugen Do you live in a cave? The cgi to make Deneiro and company look younger.
Kakugen bro you’re dumb
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In the still of the niiiight
Love the Irishman film about life betrayal friendship death nostalgia and regret a man looking back at his life with painn regret Wondering where it went wrong love it... U feel like U lived his life and that song brings those memories back best film feel like U lived their life
Uh huh......"similar scenes and techniques"....two guys from Philly who speak with Bronx accents, and a guy from Brazil, Indiana who speaks with a Bronx accent.
Amen. That bothered me. Hoffa had an upper Midwest accent similar to Chicago
Scorsese's Goodfellas is much like Kurosawa's Seven Samurais (A thrill ride but violent)
Scorsese's The Irishmen = Kurosawa's Ran, I.E more reflective/meditative etc
That's the way I see it
A very thoughtful insight. Thank you.
That is what I had said in my review on Letterboxd.
Man I really want to watch Kurosawa's cinema, but dont really understand how to begin.
Any suggestions?
When you put the two clips together of Henry going on that cocaine fueled errand with the scene where Rus and Frank are just driving over to the airport, it's jarring and kind of funny.
When The Wolf of Wall Street came out, people were talking about it being the 'final chapter' to Goodfellas-Casino story, and I hated that this could never be a trilogy.
What a GIFT it is to receive the appropriate final chapter to Scorsese's epic gangster story
When did anyone say TWOWS was the final chapter to the Goodfellas-Casino story? They're not even thematically similar.
The trilogy is definitely Goodfellas, Casino and The Irishman great trilogy
To me, it's more of a quadrilogy with Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino, and The Irishman. Goes from the young pawns in Mean Streets to the Middle Men in Goodfellas to the Top Guys in Casino to the guys that made it all the way to old age. In a way, it's one long linear thematic story threaded through these 4 movies.
@@TheGeorgeD13 I'm so glad you mentioned Mean Streets as I was about to write that this story is a tetralogy.
@@jameschristenbury2625 What is it a tetralogy with those 4 films? The Departed?
The Departed fits with the theme of all of those movies: Crime not only doesn't pay, it hurts. It hurts everything. It hurts society, it hurts its victims, it hurts the criminals themselves. Even if they don't die, they end up like Frank in The Irishman. Pathetic and haunted.
the irishman feels like the final part of Scrosese's unofficial Deniro/Pesci italian mob trilogy that included goodfellas, and Casino. (Raging Bull doesn't count in my opinion because although it did have some mob elements it was for the most part a boxing movie)
Mean streets had mob elements?
What about The Departed?
Stealthy99 I always saw The Departed as more of a cop film featuring the Irish Mob, rather than a mob film itself, especially when you discover that Frank Costello is an FBI informant, the story all ties back into the world of law enforcement rather than the mob’s world.
Charlie To0 Human Yeah I can’t disagree with that, but to me it always felt like a Scorsese “gangster movie”. In my mind I’d always compare it to the likes of Goodfellas or Casino, even though it undoubtedly depicts mob life in a completely different way.
Once Upon A Time In America and A Bronx Tale both Robert De Niro and Joe Pesci are in the gangster movies.
The way this film dealt with regret, the things we miss out on in life when we're too involved with something else and the inevitable end of our lives really says something about where Scorsese's head is at right now. At some point we will all be at the end of our lives, sitting in a room alone with nothing to do but reflect on the choices we've made.
Thank you Marty
3 hours of great storytelling and I loved it. Scorsese knows how to make a great storytelling movie and we here have huge respects for him. One of the best film directors always keeps it up.
So many of my friends and colleagues hated Irishman because it was so stylistically different from GoodFellas and Casino. I had to keep telling them that that was the point. Thanks for extrapolating on that point.
almost like they had the same director
The utter loneliness is what I remember about the Irishman
Scorcese pounded us over the head with the loneliness, the emptiness of the end results of such a life. Sure he had the money for a beautiful casket, a stately place to rest his body after death...but the regret, the worries about his soul in the afterlife, the desire to speak to a daughter who wanted nothing to do with him
I left the theater at 11:30 pm and all I could think about was loneliness
Well done
fucking Scorsese....he should have made movies more often. Well he still can, and hope he will.
The Irishman is a spiritual sequel to goodfellas
im gonna go like this video, like this video
Oh and pesci is a funny guy in both
Im gunna go watch The Irishman, watch The Irishman.
The Irishman was very under whelming.
People talking shit about their ages who gives a fuck it's legendary actors all in a movie together I thought Irishman was great I could care less if they were 90 years old I'd still watch it
I think we have to pay attention to the message Scorsese wants to tell us. "You don't know hoy fast the time goes until you get here", you could be the most violent gangster, but time it's the perfect assassin and it will get you someday too. In The Irishman we see how Frank's friends die slowly one by one, and how he gets alone while aging... Time is the most ruthless killer, an no one can escape from it, you will be alone like Frank someday... And there is nothing you can even do to avoid it.
irishman could be scorsese's best
'It's what it is'
Not only. Scorsese in this film remember Mean Streets, trough the music's choises, and with symbolic and contradictory element of the curch.
at the very end of the film when de Niro is sitting in his seat in the old folks home I had a flash back to a young de Niro fighting on the pool table in the bar with a pool cue in mean streets and I got teary eyed
Come on the opening scene itself basically spells out its a nod to Goodfellas .
the irishman was good watch. but goodfellas is a far Superior film.
Negative.
nothing tops Goodfellas, nothing :))
The video is not matching The Irishman with Goodfellas .....
I found the Irishman kind of boring and drawn out!! Not Martys greatest i will say.
Exaclty. Goodfellas is a masterpiece and one of the most rewatchable movies of all time
This is what I thought, I need to watch yet another mafia movie particularly with de niro in it. Honestly it's been done to death, resurrected and murdered again.
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Irishman is to mob movies of the golden era what Unforgiven was to westerns of the same period..
All glamour stripped away. All mythology stripped bare.
It is fitting that the base thread is two old men and their wives taking a meandering journey in a car. A little on the nose having them stop at the place their journey together began but...
Remember how Wiener got mad at the fans of the Soprano's for worshiping Tony the sociopath and so left his end ambiguous as a kind of final insult?
Maybe Martin did the same here: By only cutting this to 31/2 hours.
This could have easily been a hour shorter, but it would have accentuated the action segments too much. It focuses on the mundanity of this man's life for the most part. Even the hits he performs are laid out like describing a trip to the bathroom. He even includes ..a trip to the bathroom in one - just to make sure we get it.
A long boring trip, with wife's literally "along for the ride", punctuated with occasional stops to extort actual "working stiffs" culminating in the brutal betrayal of a friend.
An epilogue showing him ending up utterly alone. The family he used as an excuse for all of his brutality - ultimately abandoning him because of it.
I was born in 99 to me Goodfellas was the coolest film i ever watch i even went on to do crazy shit myself All that gangsta shit seemed beautiful and Gloryfied then the Irish man made me sad id rather be dead than live like to me that is living like a Schnook lol ahaa Goodfellas is the Prime of bein a gangster irishman like being a Ghost after the glory days passed
Irishman sucks. Straight up. Goodfellas is always gonna be top ganster movie in my eyes and everyone elses.